open letter to the supporters of Messalina Agrippina (live until 06-04)

[franksolich]

.....California's primary next Tuesday is shaping up to be pivotal in the Democratic contest, with Clinton holding a 13-point advantage over Sanders, 51 percent to 38 percent, according to the Hoover Institution's Golden State Poll in the state.
 
Clinton, with 2,312 delegates, needs 71 more delegates to reach the required 2,383 for the Democratic nomination. Sanders has 1,545. At stake in the California primary are 548 delegates that are awarded proportional to the vote. Five other states also vote next Tuesday, including New Jersey, which could also turn the tide for Clinton.....

From somewhere on the internet.

The Bernie bullies probably better begin sweating, although if their feelings were based upon facts rather than fantasies, they would've been sweating since last March.

There's few things that enable one to handle bad news, when bad news comes, than by recognizing it before it arrives.  Sudden abrupt rude surprises can be unsettling.

[franksolich]

It doesn't look as if much is going to happen until Saturday, June 4, when the Virgin Islanders hold their caucus, which I guess is okay with me, even if not with the supporters and opponents of Messalina Agrippina chomping at the bit.

One notices that Methuselah's dedicating all his efforts to California, all the while ignoring New Jersey.....which is eerily similar with the way Alphonse Capote Gore paid attention to Florida but ignored his home state of Tennessee during the presidential election of 2000.

If ol' Al had paid attention to his native state, he might've won.

Methuselah grew up right across the river from New Jersey; New Jersey's practically his second home state.  And oddly, he's lagging there, far behind an opponent who's about as New Jerseyan as she is Manitoban or Singaporean.  New Jersey should be in the old sourassed sourpuss's pocket, but it's not, and so probably he should be paying more attention to that state, than to one that's so far away it might as well be on the moon.

Or, as ol' Al found out sixteen years ago, it's humiliating to lose on one's home terrain.....and to an outsider at that.  First, Methuselah lost New York, and now he's going to lose New Jersey.

Which should be a loud and clear message to voters everywhere; if a guy isn't well-liked by his own neighbors, probably there's something wrong with him.

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Why it's okay with franksolich--for purely selfish reasons, of course--that there's probably not going to be any excitement the next two days is that, wearily, I must trek again to points distant to get treated for a couple of serious ailments.

I'm slowly reaching that point where I'm spending more hours per week being medically treated, than I am spending in productive work.  I haven't reached that point yet, but I'm inexorably getting there, at which point I'll have to decide upon something important.  Is living worth it, if one parasites more than one produces, one expends more than what one contributes?

I'm far away from having to make any decisions, but the question looms in front of me, like a faraway cloud on the horizon a couple of hundred miles away (yes, we can see that far out here in the Sandhills of Nebraska, on a clear day).

[DumbAss Tanker]

Not to be argumentative, Frank, but having lived there for the better part of 10 years, the people in New Jersey do not regard New Hampshire as any closer a neighbor than Idaho.

I expect Hitlery will win NJ handily, either way, I am however hoping she gets her ass handed to her in California, in accordance with my Discordian principles wherever DemonRats are concerned.

[franksolich]

Oh my.

This afternoon while I was gone, Messalina Agrippina picked up another delegate, now giving her 2,313.  It takes 2,383 to win, and she's one more closer. 

I'm not 100% entirely sure, but I believe Methuselah at the same time seems to have lost three, taking him down to 1,546.

Others may prefer the youtube of supporters of Messalina Agrippina dancing and singing and hugging in jubilation and exuberance, such as shown on this youtube:

https://youtu.be/533oFxCtSJo

But I found this last night, and think it more appropriate, if one "imagines" the bodies of Bernie bullies being knocked down and overrun by the horses' hooves, getting the fate the gimme crowd deserves:

https://youtu.be/yrvGcCK0o_o

[franksolich]

Oh my.

<<<bets this isn't going to show up on Manny's jackass message-board.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/enough-with-bernie-sanders/ar-BBtK0XD

Enough with Bernie Sanders

.....Sanders does not deserve a movement, and his losing campaign does not deserve unusual deference and concessions. His tale about American oligarchy is simplistic, his policy proposals are shallow, his rejection of political reality is absurd, his self-righteousness and stubbornness are unbecoming. And, yes, he has lost.....

.....It is also staggeringly arrogant that Sanders would think that superdelegates, the Democratic “establishment” sorts that he has spent the whole campaign cartoonishly attacking as tools of Wall Street, would be open to his entreaties.....

It's pretty short, so I can't excerpt more than this, sorry.

But for a short piece, the writer's got many good and valid and reasonable points packed tightly into it.

[franksolich]

The best news about this is that even if Methuselah wins Skippy's and WillyT's home state, he still loses.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-sanders-edging-clinton-out-in-california/ar-BBtNXgv?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

Poll: Sanders edging Clinton out in California

Bernie Sanders could pull off a big win in next week's California primary, with a new poll showing him ahead by 1 percentage point.....

.....But, the poll found, Clinton has a 10-point lead among those likely to vote next week, primarily due to support from older voters.....

.....Clinton leads Sanders in the pledged delegate count 1,769 to 1,501. But when superdelegates are factored in, Clinton's lead blossoms to 2,313 and puts her just 70 delegates short of the Democratic nomination.....

^^^

[franksolich]

Oh my.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/politics/democratic-primary-sanders-senators-warren-clinton/index.html

Democrats weigh how to nudge Sanders out

Democrats in Washington have begun discussing how to encourage Sen. Bernie Sanders to end his campaign without alienating his legions of supporters, as party leaders grow eager to unite the party behind Hillary Clinton and provide a more robust defense for her candidacy.....

You know, none of that "persuading," none of that giving the old sourassed sourpuss things so that he'll go away, is necessary.

All that's needed done is to boot his ass out; no more than that.

His followers aren't going to stay with the Democrats anyway, so the Democrats aren't going to lose any votes, doing that.  One can't lose what one's never had.

Come on, all you who allege yourselves to be concerned for the Democrat party--just kick the old fart in the teeth, kick him in the ass, and kick him out.

[franksolich]

I'm going to be gone most of today again.

Today's the day however I'm going to ask the physician a question: "What are the possible consequences if I just stop everything, and do nothing? 

"Why do people think that if something exists, something has to be done about it?  Do they ever stop to think that, well, some things just go away on their own, or improve on their own, without anybody doing anything at all?  'Doing nothing' is always an option, and sometimes the best one.

"Just because insurance pays for a whole lot of things doesn't mean they're things that need done."

I'm being treated, and exhaustively so, for three different conditions--none of them contracted while living a too-easy, too-comfortable, too-soft of a life; in other words not ailments and afflictions of affluenza such as what the big guy in Bellevue's "suffering" in his squalid stinking decadent fatness.

None of the three at the moment in the short term are imminently life-threatening; I'm just really tired of wasting so much of my days of the week.

[landofconfusion80]

I'm going to be gone most of today again.

Today's the day however I'm going to ask the physician a question: "What are the possible consequences if I just stop everything, and do nothing? 

"Why do people think that if something exists, something has to be done about it?  Do they ever stop to think that, well, some things just go away on their own, or improve on their own, without anybody doing anything at all?  'Doing nothing' is always an option, and sometimes the best one.

"Just because insurance pays for a whole lot of things doesn't mean they're things that need done."

I'm being treated, and exhaustively so, for three different conditions--none of them contracted while living a too-easy, too-comfortable, too-soft of a life; in other words not ailments and afflictions of affluenza such as what the big guy in Bellevue's "suffering" in his squalid stinking decadent fatness.

None of the three at the moment in the short term are imminently life-threatening; I'm just really tired of wasting so much of my days of the week.

There is an excellent case for doing nothing in "dead poets society" it is also my reasoning for voting libertarian. Everyone is concentrating on walking a certain way and one student just stands, proving the point that Robin Williams was making.

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[franksolich]

Well, it's no hair off my ass, what the Bernie bullies are doing to my candidate, helping him.

But if Don isn't somebody's candidate, they'd better worry, and tell the Bernie bullies to shut the **** up.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-bernie-sanders-democratic-party-clinton-perspec-0520-jm-20160518-story.html

Bernie Sanders supporters are hurting Democratic Party, helping Donald Trump

blah blah blah and then.....Yet Sanders and his supporters carry on.

This is enormously frustrating for those of us who call ourselves Democrats and have participated in the party for years. Exit polls consistently show Clinton beating Sanders by 29 percent with self-identified Democrats, whereas he wins by 30 percent with self-identified independents.

Sanders, who never affiliated with the Democratic Party until his run for president, has every right to join our party and vigorously contest its nomination by bringing new people into it. However, neither he nor his supporters have the right to demand our fealty to their wishes considering they have failed to win a majority of our votes.....

[franksolich]

It has nothing to do with Messalina Agrippina or Methuselah and his coterie of Bernie bullies, but it's interesting history anyway, the humbling of California.....by none other than the three-hours-earlier New Jersey. 

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/02/480091678/how-all-those-other-states-spoiled-californias-primary-story

How All Those Other States Spoiled California's Primary Story

After which the story, and then after which the facts:

2012: President Obama was renominated without opposition. Mitt Romney (who owned a home in California) had the Republican nomination sewn up in April.

2008: Candidate Obama lost the California primary to Hillary Clinton, but it wasn't enough to matter because he remained ahead in delegates. Clinton dropped out the following week. On the Republican side, John McCain had been the de facto nominee since February.

2004: Even with its primary in March, California found itself voting after 20 other states had already held their events and after John Kerry had already wrapped up the nomination. President George W. Bush was not challenged for renomination.

2000: Democrat Al Gore and Republican George W. Bush emerged from January and February primaries and caucuses back East with insurmountable leads, making California's March event another snoozer.

1996: President Bill Clinton ran unopposed in the Democratic Party, and Bob Dole emerged from a field of eight Republicans before the Ides of March. Pat Buchanan tried to make it interesting in California but got less than 20 percent of the vote.

1992: Candidate Bill Clinton surprised some people by defeating former (and future) California Gov. Jerry Brown. It was the last hurrah for Brown's oft-reiterated presidential ambitions, but even if Brown had won the state, Clinton would have had more delegates. On the GOP side, President George H.W. Bush easily held off lingering challenger Buchanan, who had about a quarter of the vote.

1988: Both Michael Dukakis and George H.W. Bush had secured their nominations long before the June primary, but Jesse Jackson and Bob Dole persisted in contesting California. Jackson got 35 percent of the Democratic vote, Dole just 13 percent of the Republican.

1984: The last candidate California might actually have rescued was Democrat Gary Hart, who won 39 percent of the vote against Walter Mondale and Jesse Jackson. Hart got a huge stash of delegates by winning nearly all the congressional districts, but he was wiped out on the same day in New Jersey — leaving him shy of Mondale's tally. On the GOP side, President Ronald Reagan cruised unopposed, warming up for a 49-state landslide over Mondale in November.

1980: Reagan got 80 percent of the Republican vote over Illinois Rep. John Anderson, who would run as an independent in November. Among Democrats, incumbent President Jimmy Carter suffered the ignominy of defeat at the hands of Teddy Kennedy. Carter, however, survived the blow to win the nomination (and lose to Reagan in the fall).

1976: In the nation's bicentennial year, California went with two favorite sons: sitting Gov. Jerry Brown, then just 38, on the Democratic side, and former Gov. Ronald Reagan, then 65, in the GOP. Both won by 30 points or more, but neither would be nominated that year. The Democrats nominated Carter; the GOP stuck with incumbent President Gerald Ford.

1972: President Richard Nixon ran virtually unopposed, so all the action was on the Democratic side, where Humphrey lost by just five points in a multi-candidate race won by George McGovern. It was the last time the California delegates were allowed to vote en bloc under the old "unit rule," and their combined weight put McGovern over the top. McGovern, an outspoken foe of the Vietnam War, would lose 49 states to Nixon that fall.

1968: Another Democratic primary that will live in memory was prompted by the decision of President Lyndon Johnson not to seek another term in the White House. Bobby Kennedy entered the race late against antiwar candidate Eugene McCarthy, who had helped force LBJ out. Kennedy won the crucial California vote by 46-42 percent. But minutes after giving his victory speech, Kennedy was assassinated. McCarthy was denied the nomination at the convention, which nominated Humphrey. On the Republican side, sitting Gov. Reagan won the primary as a favorite-son candidate and an 11th-hour challenger to the nomination of Nixon. Although Nixon was a native Californian, he did not contest the state's primary that year. He already had enough delegates to win the nomination. He was elected to his first term in the fall.

1964: President Johnson was unopposed, so the focus was entirely on Republican Barry Goldwater's win on the Republican side over New York Gov. Nelson Rockefeller. The GOP convention in San Francisco set the tone for a more conservative GOP in the generations to come (even though Goldwater lost badly to Johnson that fall).

1960: Nixon and John F. Kennedy won the primary in their respective parties, but both had already secured their nominations in the earlier primaries.

1956: President Dwight Eisenhower was all but unopposed for renomination, and so was the Democrat he had beaten in 1952, Adlai Stevenson. Both won California on the way to what proved to be a replay of the 1952 outcome in November.

1952: California's primary mattered as sitting Gov. Earl Warren won, making him a formidable element in the close-fought convention that summer between Eisenhower and longtime conservative hero Robert A. Taft (neither of whom chose to contest the California primary). Warren would throw his support to Eisenhower at the convention and later be appointed chief justice of the Supreme Court. On the Democratic side, Tennessee Sen. Estes Kefauver won the California primary, defeating Edmund G. Brown (Jerry Brown's father), who would later be elected governor. The nomination, however, went to Adlai Stevenson, who was not a factor in the California primary.

1948: On the Democratic side, incumbent President Harry Truman won the primary unopposed. Sitting governor Warren, popular across party lines in California, won the GOP primary as an unopposed favorite son. At the convention, California's rising postwar importance was augured by Warren's selection as Dewey's running mate (at a time when Dewey was assumed to be a sure winner in November).

[franksolich]

Methuselah picked up one superdelegate today, the vice-chairman of the Nebraska Democrat party.

Three of the five superdelegates from Nebraska are supporting Messalina Agrippina; the fifth one still hasn't said anything.

Anyway, so this broad is going against the popular will of the Nebraska Democrats, who in the primary in May, chose Messalina Agrippina over Methuselah by a healthy margin.

Of course the Bernie bullies aren't saying anything about that.

It's unfortunate--and highly undemocratic--Nebraska's case, where the old sourassed sourpuss won the Democrat caucus in March--and hence most of the Nebraska delegates--while the Democrat primary in May was just an idle exercise, meaning nothing in terms of delegates.

The next time the Bernie bullies whine about "stolen delegations," someone needs to shout, "Remember Nebraska!" in the same sense of "Remember the Maine!" or "Remember Pearl Harbor!"

[franksolich]

Well, today's the Virgin Islands caucus, 12 Democrat delegates up for grabs.

But no news yet.

And tomorrow's the Puerto Rico caucus, 67 Democrat delegates available for the taking.

After which this live thread will shut down, in preparation for the big one this coming week, when we got California, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, and South Dakota all on one day, Tuesday.

It'll be over sometime between New Jersey and three hours later, California.  I suspect Methuselah, who should've carried New Jersey, given that it's a neighbor state of his native state, will probably regret giving all his time to faraway California.

The fact that a native Chicagoan, a long time resident of Arkansas, can swipe New Jersey--New Jersey!  Right next door to New York!  Right on Methuselah's doorstep!  And won by someone who's about as "outside" New Jersey as one can get!  New Jersey!--can swipe New Jersey from this neighboring son of theirs says a great deal how those who know him best, feel about the old sourassed sourpuss.

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One sees that the Wisconsin Democrats are seeking to do away with superdelegates.

<<<not being a Democrat, have no dog in this fight; however, being a rational person, can easily see why superdelegates for the Democrat party are a vital necessity, to keep the party from falling into unstable, extremist, fringe-lunatic hands.

Thus the history of the Democrat party; instead of keeping the rules plain and simple, the propensity to alter, "fine tune," manipulate the rules, so as to achieve some certain outcome.

And then changing the rules again when they prove not so advantageous.

[freedumb2003b]

Well, today's the Virgin Islands caucus, 12 Democrat delegates up for grabs.

But no news yet.

And tomorrow's the Puerto Rico caucus, 67 Democrat delegates available for the taking.

After which this live thread will shut down, in preparation for the big one this coming week, when we got California, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, and South Dakota all on one day, Tuesday.

It'll be over sometime between New Jersey and three hours later, California.  I suspect Methuselah, who should've carried New Jersey, given that it's a neighbor state of his native state, will probably regret giving all his time to faraway California.

The fact that a native Chicagoan, a long time resident of Arkansas, can swipe New Jersey--New Jersey!  Right next door to New York!  Right on Methuselah's doorstep!  And won by someone who's about as "outside" New Jersey as one can get!  New Jersey!--can swipe New Jersey from this neighboring son of theirs says a great deal how those who know him best, feel about the old sourassed sourpuss.

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One sees that the Wisconsin Democrats are seeking to do away with superdelegates.

<<<not being a Democrat, have no dog in this fight; however, being a rational person, can easily see why superdelegates for the Democrat party are a vital necessity, to keep the party from falling into unstable, extremist, fringe-lunatic hands.

Thus the history of the Democrat party; instead of keeping the rules plain and simple, the propensity to alter, "fine tune," manipulate the rules, so as to achieve some certain outcome.

And then changing the rules again when they prove not so advantageous.

A California bern would have the same effect as an indictment.

If you have deities, now is the time...

[franksolich]

Music to the ears.

https://youtu.be/yrvGcCK0o_o

She picked up three more delegates this afternoon, although I know not from where.  The results of the Virgin Islands caucus (12 Democrat delegates) don't seem to be anywhere on the internet yet.  But anyway, she's up three more, and so once again this superbly delightful youtube video, in which one imagines the trampling horse hooves overrunning the hapless Bernie bullies.

Messalina Agrippina 2,316 (2,383 needed to win)
Methuselah 1,547 (no change from last report)

There's 12 from the Virgin Island caucus today, and 67 from the Puerto Rico caucus tomorrow (Sunday)--I'll bet the mainstream news media is ignoring these because news from California's more "sexier," trendier, cooler; it's also highly suspicious they've been ignoring news from the all-important New Jersey. 

It's--the news--is all focused on California.  Screw California; we've heard enough about California, and so time to hear about all these other places. 

[franksolich]

The Bernie bullies continue displaying, for all the world to see and gawk and wonder, their utter stupidity:

Eduardo Mario Perelstein  • 3 hours ago 

Why is everybody still counting the superdelegates, even when DWS herself said -REPEATEDLY- that superdelegates do NOT vote until the convention????? Hillary will NOT clinch the nomination on Tuesday or after the DC primary, the superdelegates will decide. Saying anything else is BAD journalism.

Yup > to Eduardo Mario Perelstein  • 3 hours ago 

Don't worry, she won't be crowned (i.e., formally recognized as the nominee) until the convention. She will, however, be declared the presumptive nominee at that point. And that's precisely what she'll be, by virtue of having a majority of total delegates (yes, that includes superdelegates who've promised to support her), a majority of pledged delegates, and a lead in the popular vote.

Superdelegates have never overridden the will of the primary voters--they've never given the nomination to someone who hasn't earned a pledged delegate majority. There is absolutely no reason to think that they'll do so this time around. So again, no "coronation" is gonna happen on June 7, but Clinton will and should be declared the presumptive Democratic nominee.

Eduardo Mario Perelstein > to Yup  • 3 hours ago 

MANY things might and probably will happen between today and July 25. Nothing is written in stone when it comes to superdelegates.* Whether it is bad or good journalism, it will be wrong to crown HRC on June 7. Just W.R.O.N.G.

*Nor when it comes to anything else, is anything written in stone.

franksolich's First Rule of Everything: anything can happen, and usually does.

john beere > to Golestan  • 32 minutes ago 

Don't be hasty. We'll get there. We all want have the nomination contest wrapped up so we could move on to the general election. Anyway the fact that Clinton will be the nominee is all clear to everyone except the most delusional of Sanders' supporters.

Golestan  • 5 hours ago 

"Clinton edges closer to the nomination"
HOW SO???
So far I have not seen any results yet!

Yeah; I dunno for sure, but it must be damned near 11 p.m. in the Virgin Islands now, and no report yet, not even on the website of the Virgin Island Democrats, about how the vote went.

The news media's treating the place as if it's a backwater or something, of little or no concern.

Yup  • 4 hours ago 

Don't be sore now Golestan. The Virgin Islands are 85% black and in any event, delegates are allocated proportionally. So both sides will get something, and that puts Clinton closer to getting the final 70 she needs to wrap things up.

http://patch.com/us/across-america/virgin-island-democratic-caucus-clinton-inches-closer-nomination-0

[franksolich]

http://www.inquisitr.com/3165388/who-won-the-2016-virgin-islands-democratic-caucus-bernie-sanders-desperate-for-win-in-saturdays-contest-as-hillary-clinton-nears-clinching-nomination/

Who won the 2016 Virgin Islands Democratic caucus?

Saturday’s contest is among the smallest races in the 2016 Democratic primary, but could have outsized importance as Bernie Sanders is desperate for a strong finish that could put him closer to Hillary Clinton in delegates and further his case that he may indeed be the strongest candidate in November.

The U.S. Virgin Islands caucus will start at 10 a.m. and results are expected to come out by early afternoon. There are seven pledged delegates to go along with five superdelegates up for grabs.

It could be an important moment for Sanders, who has settled on a strategy that involves a big finish in the remaining primaries coupled with an active outreach to superdelegates, who would need to jump from Clinton’s side to his en masse in order to put him over the top.

It’s a long shot, and the results of the 2016 Virgin Islands caucus will likely make it a bit harder. While there is no polling from the American territory, the demographic heavily favors Hillary Clinton. The islands’ population of 106,405 is mostly Afro-Caribbean, and Clinton has held large leads among African-American voters.....

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Results from the 2016 Virgin Island Democrat caucus can be found here

Liars.  The link takes one nowhere.  There's no, absolutely no, numbers out yet, anywhere on the internet. 

[franksolich]

Well, maybe Manny's jackals and Skippy's hyenas can understand New Zealand math:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11651020

The Democrat race - what the delegate maths says
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1 PLEDGED DELEGATES
These are the delegates won in primaries and caucuses. At the party's national convention, these delegates must vote for the candidate who won them.
Hillary Clinton: 1769
Bernie Sanders: 1501

2 SUPERDELEGATES
These are elected and party officials who automatically attend the convention and can vote for the candidate of their choice. The AP has surveyed these delegates several times and noted their on-the-record endorsements.
These delegates, however, can change their minds.
Clinton: 547
Sanders: 46

3 THE TOTAL
Clinton: 2316
Sanders: 1547
Clinton needs 67 delegates to reach the 2383 needed to win.
Sanders needs 836 delegates to clinch the nomination.

4 OUTSTANDING
These are the pledged delegates to be chosen in upcoming races and the superdelegates who have yet to commit to either Clinton or Sanders.
Pledged: 781
Superdelegates: 121

[landofconfusion80]

[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3RQoLy2fnCY[/youtube]

[franksolich]

Whoa.

Messalina Agrippina cleaned up in the Virgin Islands on Saturday.

The Democrats apportion delegates, but a candidate has to get at least 15% of the vote to get a delegate.  Methuselah didn't make the cut.  No delegate, not a one, for the old sourassed sourpuss.

Boo-hoo-hoo.

As it now stands:
Messalina Agrippina 2,323 delegates (2,383 needed to win)
Methuselah 1,547 (no change, no change at all)

And so.....

https://youtu.be/yrvGcCK0o_o

For me, the sweetest part, the best part, the happiest part, of that whole 3:27 is the last ten seconds, beginning at the 3:17 mark.  It's easy to imagine the men on horseback as the supporters of Messalina Agrippina colliding with the men standing on the ground, the Bernie bullies, the latter getting run over, trampled down, violently crushed.

That might sound a rather bloody and gory fantasy, but one has to remember the Bernie bullies themselves wished such a fate upon all those who weren't for Methuselah.  If they think that way, I guess it's okay for other people to think that way too.

[franksolich]

Today, Sunday, is the day of the Puerto Rico caucus, with 67 Democrat delegates at stake.

I surely hope the news media's paying more attention to them, than they did to the Virgin Islands, which was treated as if it didn't even count.

I'll be back later today to pick up coverage of that one, after which I'll conclude this open letter, this live thread, and start another one for the Democrat activities taking place this coming Tuesday in Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, South Dakota, and one other state whose name I forget at the moment.

[BlueStateSaint]

And so.....

https://youtu.be/yrvGcCK0o_o

For me, the sweetest part, the best part, the happiest part, of that whole 3:27 is the last ten seconds, beginning at the 3:17 mark.  It's easy to imagine the men on horseback as the supporters of Messalina Agrippina colliding with the men standing on the ground, the Bernie bullies, the latter getting run over, trampled down, violently crushed.

That might sound a rather bloody and gory fantasy, but one has to remember the Bernie bullies themselves wished such a fate upon all those who weren't for Methuselah.  If they think that way, I guess it's okay for other people to think that way too.

Brings a tear to my eye . . .

[franksolich]

Well, apparently as far as the mainstream news media, at least what's available of it on the internet, is concerned, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico doesn't exist.....despite that it's larger than many states in the United States.

All coverage seems geared towards Tuesday, and a place that won't count two minutes after the polls close in New Jersey.

[franksolich]

The polls in Puerto Rico are open 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. eastern time.  The opening time makes sense, the closing time doesn't.

Methuselah and his Bernie brats are screaming "fraud!" even as I write this.

That didn't take long; it's always fraud when they lose.

Puerto Ricans frustrated by the island's economic crisis are voting in the U.S. territory's Democratic presidential primary, as front-runner Hillary Clinton drew closer to securing the number of delegates needed to win her party's nomination.

A blowout win Saturday in the U.S. Virgin Islands left Clinton just 60 delegates short of the 2,383 needed to win the nomination.

Sixty pledged delegates are at stake in Puerto Rico. Clinton would need to win more than 85 percent of the vote to get them all.

Voters were mainly focused on the island's economic crisis.

Clinton and rival Bernie Sanders visited Puerto Rico and pledged help as it seeks to restructure $70 billion worth of public debt that the governor has said is unpayable.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-gingrich-trump-attacks-judge-mistake-39621234

It's probably too much for which to hope, but if Messalina Agrippina gets 85+% of the vote, she's got the nomination today.

[BlueStateSaint]

The polls in Puerto Rico are open 8 a.m. to 3 p.m. eastern time.  The opening time makes sense, the closing time doesn't.

Methuselah and his Bernie brats are screaming "fraud!" even as I write this.

That didn't take long; it's always fraud when they lose.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-gingrich-trump-attacks-judge-mistake-39621234

It's probably too much for which to hope, but if Messalina Agrippina gets 85+% of the vote, she's got the nomination today.

Wouldn't that be a hoot!