i have a serious question for you all - should asthma medication be free?

[Carl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027603201

Thu Feb 11, 2016, 09:51 PM

JanMichael (22,199 posts)

i have a serious question for you all - should asthma medication be free?
asthma impacts some 8 percent of the total population. but is the cause of around one quarter of all emergency room visits.

the thing about asthma is that it is typically an attack. that means breathing starts to become difficult. you are fine playing guitar or soccer then bam. it happens fast. i have it. 9 times out if ten if you just let it go - meaning labored breathing and sweating - without an inhaler you will slowly recover then be drained for a day. it is a scary torture because you think you may just suffocate and black out then die.that happens to around 4 thousand adults and children every year. they suffocate to death. it is one of those things that people are aware of almost all the way to the blackness. like a pillow over your face until you blackout. that is not scary right? no serial killer ever stopped suffocation to say that would not be mean enough.

this is not a slow long term slide to death. you can be a workout nut like me and in great shape but it is still there. you can look like a super models sister like krissy taylor who simply hit an empty inhaler and did not have a extra within reach and died. it can be managed easily. sadly the inhalers are usually expensive but hard to stock up on. they can be had for 10 buck a pop if you have great insurance like me. but you can usually only buy one at a time per month. they have 240 puffs per inhaler but they are small and i imagine kids lose them a lot. hell i misplace them too on occasion. just like krissy did.

when i was kid in the early 70s i ended up in the emergency room if the red and white capsule meds that were sprinkled on some ice cream or cereal did not work. no inhalers then and i image more deaths too.

most medical conditions are not 10 seconds from ok to not ok. when i say not ok that means fear and an instant reduction in oxygen flow that needs immediate attention.

it is like... no wait....you stop breathing normally and without an inhaler think you might just die.

edit - while krissy taylor was not known to have asthma charlotte coleman of for weddings and oranges arent the onky fruit died due to losing ir misplacing an inhaler.

ESAD you useless piece of shit.

Response to JanMichael (Original post)

Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:06 PM

Star Member Dalai_1 (1,117 posts)
1. Pharmaceutical Companies

..will provide inhalers (in most cases) with a Drs prescription if the patient can not afford to purchase the inhaler. They do have eligiblity requirements.

Response to Dalai_1 (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:14 PM

JanMichael (22,199 posts)
4. one or two maybe. not my point. du has become a cesspool of antithapy. nt

Response to JanMichael (Original post)

Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:09 PM

Star Member SoLeftIAmRight (2,495 posts)
2. Bad question - nothing is free

want to try again?

Response to SoLeftIAmRight (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:06 AM

Star Member hunter (23,778 posts)
31. Everything is free. Money is a human invention.

What we decide to work for, what values we choose to represent, are another question entirely.

Stupid is free and you are hoarding it.

Response to JanMichael (Original post)

Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:22 PM

JanMichael (22,199 posts)
9. ironic how on du the first few posts are ranges of denial or rebutes.liberals my ass. nt

There you have it,to be liberal is to expect everything in return for nothing.

Response to JanMichael (Original post)

Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:51 PM

Shandris (2,731 posts)
21. I would rather think that a supply of the most common, basic medical supplies...

...should be available on most street corners (or at least one per block, for Christ's sake!). Kind of a 'telecom a doctor, get permission to get {item}, remove {item}, be well' type deal. Think of it as a communal health center minus the corporate 'donation' of several hundred dollars.

The mechanism would need some work obviously, but yes...there's no reason people are dying for lack of a product that likely costs a dime to manufacture and less than a penny to ship.

Response to JanMichael (Original post)

Thu Feb 11, 2016, 10:53 PM

Chuuku Davis (202 posts)
22. Yes


All medicine should be free

Response to JanMichael (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 12:52 AM

Star Member onecaliberal (4,462 posts)
26. Yes, absolutely.

Response to JanMichael (Original post)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:33 AM

Star Member tblue37 (18,276 posts)
33. Yes, it they should. nt

 

[USA4ME]

Why did this dimwit even ask the question? If someone says something that isn't the exact answer he wanted, then he starts belittling them for not really being liberal. This dolt should have just come out and said he believes it should be free and not asked what others thought about it.

But that would require thinking, of which the JanMichael primitive is clearly incapable.

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[tuolumnejim]

I demand that whatever service or products the DUmbshits supply must be free. 

[FlaGator]

When no one is paying for medicine or the government is paying cost and handing it out free then there will be no more new medicines and no more new cures. No money to fund research and no money as a reward for successful research means an end to research.

[Big Dog]

When no one is paying for medicine or the government is paying cost and handing it out free then there will be no more new medicines and no more new cures. No money to fund research and no money as a reward for successful research means an end to research.

Exactly right.

[USA4ME]

JanMichael

.... you can look like a super models sister like krissy taylor who simply hit an empty inhaler and did not have a extra within reach and died. it can be managed easily. sadly the inhalers are usually expensive but hard to stock up on. they can be had for 10 buck a pop if you have great insurance like me. but you can usually only buy one at a time per month. they have 240 puffs per inhaler but they are small and i imagine kids lose them a lot. hell i misplace them too on occasion. just like krissy did.

This makes no sense. How does making them free keep you from losing them and therefore not having them available when you need them?

I suppose the argument would be they would carry more that just one on them since they don't cost anything, but that's just a guess and certainly not even 1% provable.

In fact, I would argue that since they do cost something that the individual would have to be more careful to make sure they *don't* misplace them. When something costs you nothing, you tend to not care much about it. When you actually had to work to obtain it, you naturally are more careful about taking care of it. These simple concepts escape liberals.

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[GOBUCKS]

edit - while krissy taylor was not known to have asthma charlotte coleman of for weddings and oranges arent the onky fruit died due to losing ir misplacing an inhaler.

I think DUmmy JanMichael wants to work for Reporting San Diego.

[thundley4]

Chuuku Davis (202 posts)
22. Yes


All medicine should be free

Al medicines that cost nothing to produce and require no labor to make them are already are already free. It's called oxygen.

[jukin]

Proper statement is "Should asthma medicine be paid for by someone else?"

There is no "free" you DUchebags....unless the person that gets the reward does the work. I think we all know that DUchebags and work go together like oil and vinegar.

[franksolich]

Proper statement is "Should asthma medicine be paid for by someone else?"

Well, the tblue37 primitive says yes, they should be free for the Janice primitive.

My suggestion then is that the tblue37 primitive buy them, and give them to the Janice primitive.

But that's not what the tblue37 primitive really means; she really means "other people" should pay for them, leaving both her and the Janice primitive off the hook.

[fatboy]

Chuuku Davis (202 posts)
22. Yes

All medicine should be free

And start with medical MJ. This is the whole point of the thread.

[Karin]

This is just a tad long, but it's quintessentially DUmmie:

Response to hfojvt (Reply #46)

Fri Feb 12, 2016, 05:59 PM

Star Member hunter (23,796 posts)
48. If you have to ask that question, it's just sad.

Isn't there any contribution you'd like to make to your community if you knew you were never going to starve or be homeless, no matter what?

Is wage slavery a necessity in modern society? Work for money, or starve? What about people who are unemployable? What about the disabled? Should anyone ever be allowed retirement?

We should probably be paying people to live low energy lifestyles anyways. Forget electric cars, create an environment where people don't need or want cars. Don't build new power plants, not wind, not solar, not anything. Create an environment where day-to-day living doesn't require large inputs of electricity or gas.

Most jobs are crap, they do not make the world a better place.

"Work ethics" are destroying the planet and it seems increasingly unlikely this global civilization will survive the century. If we want to preserve whatever is left we should be encouraging people to use birth control, eat as low as they are able on the food chain, plant a garden, read a book, teach the children a new song... low energy stuff.

People who simply can't sit still ought to be figuring out ways to make low energy, low environmental impact lifestyles happen.

"Consumerism" and today's version of "economic productivity" have to be killed before they kill us.

Or maybe it's too late and Mother Nature is winding up to kick us back into the stone age. We're not the first innovative species on the planet to experience exponential growth followed by collapse.

[Patriot Guard Rider]

Or maybe it's too late and Mother Nature is winding up to kick us back into the stone age. We're not the first innovative species on the planet to experience exponential growth followed by collapse.

Here's a hint DUmmie. The human species will go extinct, whether by virus, meteor or supervolcano. All evidence of our ever being here will be wiped out. The earth doesn't care what lives here. Dinosaurs, Neanderthals, Humans. Earth doesn't care.

Then, in a billion or two years, something else will crawl out of the water, and whatever they evolve into, will inhabit the earth, until THEY go extinct.

This will happen over, and over, until the sun goes super-nova and the earth becomes a cold, lifeless, colorless rock spinning around in the universe.

I doubt I'll be around long enough to see that.

[GOBUCKS]

Star Member hunter (23,796 posts)
48. If you have to ask that question, it's just sad.

Isn't there any contribution you'd like to make to your community if you knew you were never going to starve or be homeless, no matter what?

DUmmy hunter is a mentally-ill philosopher who spends most of his DUmp posts talking about living in his car and contemplating suicide.

[CollectivismMustDie]

Chuuku Davis (202 posts)
22. Yes


All medicine should be free

Hey, DUmbshits. Even if you produce all medicines with slave labor there would still be costs.

I wish I had hope that you stupid ****s were able to think critically to even the tiniest degree, and figure that out.

But I have no such hope.


CMD

[SVPete]

Modern Progonomics really does come down to stealing from creators and producers to give free shit to those who won't create and produce.

That creators and producers might respond by ceasing to create and produce the shit they want for free, is an idea beyond modern Progs' intellectual capacity.

[wintersnow]

They key is to buy in bulk through the mail if your insurance allows it.  One would be amazed to learn how much money can be saved by doing that.

There is no such thing as free, but if birth control is "free" then so should medicine.

[Big Dog]

They key is to buy in bulk through the mail if your insurance allows it.  One would be amazed to learn how much money can be saved by doing that.

There is no such thing as free, but if birth control is "free" then so should medicine.

Welcome to CC.

Birth control is free. Self control costs nothing, and a gal can actually make money giving blowjobs.



However, contraceptives aren't free.

[Celtic Rose]

DUmmy hunter is a mentally-ill philosopher who spends most of his DUmp posts talking about living in his car and contemplating suicide.

He completely ignores the fact that society does not run on "contributions to society."  I work as a night shift nurse in a busy ICU. I like my job, but is certainly isn't my favorite way to spend my time, and I definitely wouldn't work nights if there weren't financial benefits to doing so. 

[BlueStateSaint]

He completely ignores the fact that society does not run on "contributions to society."  I work as a night shift nurse in a busy ICU. I like my job, but is certainly isn't my favorite way to spend my time, and I definitely wouldn't work nights if there weren't financial benefits to doing so.

Good to see you, CR!

[Celtic Rose]

Thank you    Life has started calming down slightly, and I've found a bit of free time in my life 

[BlueStateSaint]

Thank you    Life has started calming down slightly, and I've found a bit of free time in my life 

That's good, milady.