Chrstians would do the same if they had the chance!

[dutch508]

... well,... you know the meme by now, right?

Liberal_in_LA (37,358 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026925814

ISIS drowning people slowly in cages, blowing them up, increasing barbarity
Throwing gay men off buildings. Beheadings
Doesn't seem to be big news anymore
Sick bastards

BUT- they aren't as bad as the Christians!

Star Member RKP5637 (35,019 posts)
2. Given the chance, some in this country would do the same if not held in check. There is a hell of a lot of hatred in America against all sorts of people.

Most of it coming from the left towards everyone else.

randys1 (7,664 posts)
3. The cons I know wouldnt kill Gay people, but they sure as hell would discriminate against them in every way possible, which is still legal in most places.
Conservatism is a disease And their ultimate desire is to make them 2nd class citizens or make them disappear

Yet--- your president and government just did this exact thing to Christians...

hmmm...

Cleita (72,981 posts)
5. So Bush/Cheney's wars for oil and MIC profits, that they said was to bring democracy to the ME, in fact has blown those nations back to the Middle Ages and the era of the Spanish Inquisition.

Barry ****ed up the peace so bad it will take centuries of undoing. Yeah... BUSH is responsible for the exact same bullshit Islam has been pulling for the last 800 years.

hifiguy (23,872 posts)
19. Let the Saudis do it. We have sold then enough arms to start their own world war.  Oh, but then I suppose the Saudi shitheels wouldn't want to attack their ideological bedmates. Never mind.

This is a disaster that is unfixable by any outsiders.

The Saudis, the commoners that is, support Wahhabism in an overwhelming majority. It's the royals keeping the extreme crazies in check in the Kingdom. ISIS and AQ are off-shoots of the Wahhabist sect. Iran and Syria are offshoots of the Shi'i sect.

Both want to destroy the west though.

yallerdawg (1,856 posts)
10. This is "Mad Max/Road Warrior" reality.

This ISIL-thing started with an extended drought in Syria, food and water shortages, and a government that couldn't or wouldn't do anything about it for its people. No- it was going on for decades. The retreat of the US from Iraq simply ignited the latest disaster.

A little revolution, a lot of indiscriminate death, and here we are - shedding the vestiges of civilization, barbarity for personal survival, "religious" exploitation in justification, a reality of end-times apocalyptic vision.

I remember when Obama asked if maybe we should do something? And we said no...

Meanwhile, back in the USA, the west is running out of water, the government is rationing, impending crop disasters, diseases effecting our food chains...

And all we want to do is frack!

California is being destroyed by it's own hand. It needs no help from ISIS.

AngryAmish (22,725 posts)
20. There should be a ban on discussing IS on DU. It cannot be discussed intelligently. IS is winning. They have the support of millions. And all their enemies suck also. Who should win this war? Hell if I know. Every side is horrible. Oh, but the Kurds you say? They are trying to carve out an ethno state a la Isreal. And when they take over a town the non Kurds are made to become refugees. But among the lot they are the most ok.

SAA will fight forever. Because a peace without them on top is genocide. IS has a coherent ideology, runs fairly efficiently and has mass support. Nusra is al quida. FSA is slowly merging with nusra. This fight will go on a minimum of 5 years, upper bound 15 more.

No... it will go on for many decades since we won't do anything and the rest of the world is too caught up in their own issues... Once Iran has the bomb things will only get worse.

Donald Ian Rankin (12,547 posts)
22. All categories of international response to ISIS can be placed in one of two categories.


:-Those involving large numbers of Western ground troops.
:-Those not involving large numbers of Western ground troops.

I think that it is likely that any strategy in the former category will involve the West being drawn into a protracted, bloody, region-wide war with no end in sight.

I think it is likely that any strategy in the latter category will fail to contain ISIS, resulting in them growing, spreading, getting richer, more powerful and better armed, and committing more and worse atrocities.

Choose your poison :-s

When you have to chose between two losing options you have to find a third option.

I have one.        People won't like it.           

[Carl]

Predictable mutts.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

not serving pizza = beheading

[I_B_Perky]

yallerdawg (1,856 posts)
10. This is "Mad Max/Road Warrior" reality.

This ISIL-thing started with an extended drought in Syria, food and water shortages, and a government that couldn't or wouldn't do anything about it for its people. No- it was going on for decades. The retreat of the US from Iraq simply ignited the latest disaster.

A little revolution, a lot of indiscriminate death, and here we are - shedding the vestiges of civilization, barbarity for personal survival, "religious" exploitation in justification, a reality of end-times apocalyptic vision.

I remember when Obama asked if maybe we should do something? And we said no...

Meanwhile, back in the USA, the west is running out of water, the government is rationing, impending crop disasters, diseases effecting our food chains...

And all we want to do is frack!

I stumbled upon an article that said just that a couple of months ago. Can't remember which rag it was. If I recall correctly, it was a serious article. Might have even been a "peer reviewed" journal.  I was wondering how long it would take the dump to come out with that.

Wait... I found the article. It was based on some research done by some fools at Columbia U and UC Santa Barbara.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11446093/Syrias-civil-war-linked-to-global-warming.html

Words escape me.

[obumazombie]

If the JV could do that, what would the Varsity be capable of ?
All this is happening on owebuma's watch.

[Mr Mannn]

The vast overwhelming majority of this country is still Christian. If we were as bad as ISIS, we would have already won. The great purge would have cleaned out all the DUmmies and their ilk. Capitalism would reign supreme, and we would have no opposition.

You DUmmies live by our good will. Don't get cocky.

[BannedFromDU]

     Let me be sure I understand the point:

     Christians would behead and drown gays if they could.

     If Christians COULD do it, they would. There's just something holding them back. I wonder what that could be.

     Could it be THE LAW?

     I mean, imagine a group of people so craven, so evil, so murderous and vile, that they would do what ISIS is doing. If only it wasn't illegal.

     Do you see how stupid that argument is, DUmmies? If someone wants your head off, it will be off, law or none. I will hazard a guess that even in Saddam's Iraq, murder was illegal.

     

     

[Ptarmigan]

If Christians were ISIS, than there would be dead bodies everywhere.

[SVPete]

The vast overwhelming majority of this country is still Christian. If we were as bad as ISIS, we would have already won. The great purge would have cleaned out all the DUmmies and their ilk. Capitalism would reign supreme, and we would have no opposition.

You DUmmies live by our good will. Don't get cocky.

     Let me be sure I understand the point:

     Christians would behead and drown gays if they could.

     If Christians COULD do it, they would. There's just something holding them back. I wonder what that could be.

     Could it be THE LAW?

     I mean, imagine a group of people so craven, so evil, so murderous and vile, that they would do what ISIS is doing. If only it wasn't illegal.

     Do you see how stupid that argument is, DUmmies? If someone wants your head off, it will be off, law or none. I will hazard a guess that even in Saddam's Iraq, murder was illegal.

If Christians were ISIS, than there would be dead bodies everywhere.

Precisely, and H-5s apiece! The paranoid lunatic illogic of that post and thread defy my vocabulary.

If one focuses on just the theologically conservative Christians these folks profess to fear - ignoring the folks of UCC, UMC, PCUSA, Episcopalians and ELCA who think they're smarter and wiser than their Creator - we are not a majority in the US, but we number in the 10s of millions. Among police, theologically conservative Christians may or may not be in the majority, but we certainly are numerous enough that Federal and state laws and the threat of punishment would not be a deterrent.

So idiots like these DU-folk need to explain why, if their belief that theologically conservative Christians are hateful and murderous toward homosexuals is true, any "out" homosexuals are alive. Each of the millions of alive "out" homosexuals is a proof that the fear they profess is utterly false.

For that matter, even the vilest of those profess to be Christians - that I know of - the Phelpsians, did not commit any acts of violence, let alone murder any homosexual. What's up with that? Were even the Phelpsians restrained by something stronger and deeper than their respect for the laws of this country? As distorted as their understanding of Christianity was/is, it is Christianity - the teachings and God Himself - that make theologically conservative Christians no threat to homosexuals.

[obumazombie]

Phelps was a dyed in the wool lib.
He was very active as a dem and progressive activist well before any of his funeral shenanigans.

[SVPete]

Phelps was a dyed in the wool lib.
He was very active as a dem and progressive activist well before any of his funeral shenanigans.

'Tis true. Phelps also received an award from the local NAACP - back in the mid or late 70s, IIRC - for his legal work on their behalf.

To fracture a metaphor, when the Liberal Plantation moved in the 70s and 80s he was found to be off the plantation.

[BannedFromDU]

Phelps was a dyed in the wool lib.
He was very active as a dem and progressive activist well before any of his funeral shenanigans.

     The other aspect of this ridiculous DUmmy argument is that ISIS is actually, actively doing these things NOW, whereas Christians are just going to church. As shameful as it is, it will take an ISIS attack on US soil to peel even a few DUmmies off into sanity.

     I also believe that in this day and age, even compared to 2001, any attack would be met with a tallying of casualties by race, and inferences will be made.

     In any event, keep in mind that DUmmies don't care what happens, so long as they have someone in mind to blame.