Is it unethical, due to over population, to breed many children

[dutch508]

ZombieHorde  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 05:19 PM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3636170
Poll question: Is it unethical, due to over population, to breed many children.
 Poll result (117 votes) 
No, It is not unethical to breed many children.  (23 votes, 20%) Vote
Yes, it is unethical to breed more than two children.  (61 votes, 52%) Vote
Yes, it is unethical to breed more than one child.  (8 votes, 7%) Vote
Yes, it is unethical to breed, people should adopt.  (7 votes, 6%) Vote
I am a better person now that I have voted in this poll.  (3 votes, 3%) Vote
Some other answer, which is much better than the ones provided.  (15 votes, 13%) Vote
 

Uh....what?

seemslikeadream  (1000+ posts)       Thu Jul-17-08 05:21 PM
Response to Original message
1. The word breed is strange
 to me anyway

Bobbieo  (1000+ posts)       Thu Jul-17-08 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #1
13. We are breeders because we are the human animal

Lorien  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #82
92. I wish I didn't believe it
 but nearly every man I've ever been involved with was just a user of women. Seems like the norm to me.

 

Stop hanging out with DUmmies.

Indenturedebtor  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #92
125. Nearly every woman I've ever been with was shallow and conceited
 Maybe the both of us just have bad taste. 

OOO- ZING!!!

seemslikeadream  (1000+ posts)       Thu Jul-17-08 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #97
110.  It is an insult to me to be called a breeder because some one else
 doesn't have the capacity to be a good parent

Oh, here we go...

thecatburgler  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #110
111. Maybe it's a good thing if it shakes you out of the romantic illusions you seem to have.
 Your personal magical and emotion-laden experience with parenthood is not universally applicable. The plain fact is that a lot of people are mindless breeders. Instead of being upset at a word, why don't you do something to advance the cause of responsible parenthood? 

 

seemslikeadream  (1000+ posts)       Thu Jul-17-08 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #111
113. I don't have any romantic illusions WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GET THAT IDEA?
 Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 07:26 PM by seemslikeadream
I believe MOST parents are decent human beings and love their children that's not romantic it is the truth
How many children do you have? Where did you get your masters in motherhood?

 

thecatburgler  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #113
116. Oh here we go with the "I'm a parent therefore an expert" bit.
 I don't have kids but I did have a childhood. And I have eyes to see and ears to hear the people around me.

I also agree that *most* parents are decent. But a sizeable minority are not. There's a reason why therapists always do a brisk business. 

Indenturedebtor  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #50
127. People are NOT ANIMALS
 We're a virus that is poised to burst the cell of our host. Magical thinking and oxitocyn swishing around in the brain aside.

   

ZombieHorde  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #60
74. To be honest, I like the word "breed" because I like to call my straight friends "breeders".
 Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 06:21 PM by ZombieHorde
As in; "Shut up and go breed some ****ing babies you ****ing breeder."

I am not anti-straight by the way, I have two kids of my own.

edit to add: I also wanted to make sure that people knew that I was excluding adoption.

And that, as Dr Siggy says, explains that.

[Chris_]

Indenturedebtor  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #50
127. People are NOT ANIMALS
 We're a virus that is poised to burst the cell of our host. Magical thinking and oxitocyn swishing around in the brain aside.

Spoken like a true self-hating DUmmie. And it's "oxytocin", genius.

Indenturedebtor  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #22
126. That's the same argument of SUV buyers I heard every day for 3 years
 "I know it burns a ton of gas but hey if I can afford it then why not."
I always felt like saying "I can stab you in the throat with a screwdriver... so why not?"

Back to their violent murder fantasies. Can we please lock these people away, before a tragedy happens?

DiktatrW  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
10. It should be against the law
 to breed children, as a matter of fact, I think it is.

It should be against the law to be that ****ing stupid.

[Chris_]

ileus (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 06:24 PM
Response to Original message
79. Self extinction is earths only hope.
 But I know the Chinese, and Indians will never go for it.

You first.

[Lord Undies]

DiktatrW  (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 05:25 PM
Response to Original message
10. It should be against the law
 to breed children, as a matter of fact, I think it is.

That was my first impression of the OP statement.  Being a party to breeding children can get you some serious trouble.

[Attero Dominatus]

ileus  (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Thu Jul-17-08 06:24 PM
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79. Self extinction is earths only hope.
   
But I know the Chinese, and Indians will never go for it.
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The idiots calling for self extinction never off themselves.

nam78_two  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Thu Jul-17-08 05:40 PM
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45. We are animals-in many ways some of the most toxic ones on the planet right now
   
We treat each other so badly that I am not surprised that we treat other species even worse often.
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[EastFacingNorth]

ileus (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 06:24 PM
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79. Self extinction is earths only hope.
 But I know the Chinese, and Indians will never go for it.

This here's a big part of what separated us (or at least me, and I suspect the rest of the gang here as well though I won't speak for you) from the DUmmies.

They feel that if the human race must be extinguished to continue this planet's perpetuation, that is an acceptable price.

I, on the other hand, feel that if we must utterly destroy this planet, even if it means blasting it until there's not a piece left greater than ten atoms in size, in order to ensure the existance of the human race, that is an acceptable price.

Not that I think that is necessary, only that it is acceptable.

[MrsSmith]

No, It is not unethical to breed many children.  (23 votes, 20%) Vote
Yes, it is unethical to breed more than two children.  (61 votes, 52%) Vote
Yes, it is unethical to breed more than one child.  (8 votes, 7%) Vote
Yes, it is unethical to breed, people should adopt.   (7 votes, 6%) Vote

I've got to wonder...what will they adopt if no one has kids?   

[Lord Undies]

ileus (1000+ posts)      Thu Jul-17-08 06:24 PM
Response to Original message
79. Self extinction is earths only hope.
 But I know the Chinese, and Indians will never go for it.

This here's a big part of what separated us (or at least me, and I suspect the rest of the gang here as well though I won't speak for you) from the DUmmies.

They feel that if the human race must be extinguished to continue this planet's perpetuation, that is an acceptable price.

I, on the other hand, feel that if we must utterly destroy this planet, even if it means blasting it until there's not a piece left greater than ten atoms in size, in order to ensure the existance of the human race, that is an acceptable price.

Not that I think that is necessary, only that it is acceptable.

Really, what it is they want to believe is that mankind is just another passenger on this Big Blue Marble twirling through space.  They cannot admit that creation (earth, etc)  is for mankind, and if mankind ceases to exist, there is no reason for creation to be. 

Without man around to be aware, there is no point to anything.   

[djones520]

I got no problem with the thinking that we're just a passenger on the big blue marble.  Differance between me and the DUmmies though?

This passenger is hijacking his ride. 

DUmmies are so hypocritical in their thinkings.  Their always up in arms about being evolutionists, and hating creationism, but then go on these rants about wanting to off the entire race to save the planet.  They forget that the meaning of life is to survive as a species, to reproduce and multiply.  All other species on this planet consume the resources they require to continue on.  If not, they die out.

We are exponentially more advanced then other species.  Hence our needs are that much greater.  Eventually we will wear this big blue marble out, and we'll have to find a new one.  But for the sake of our survival, for our whole reason of existence, we shall.

Thats what the DUmmies need to keep telling themselves.  Not that the answer is extinction.

[Rebel]

Guess I'm gonna have to disagree with you guys. I do believe it's unethical for liberals to breed.

[Chris_]

They don't breed anyway.

[Rebel]

They don't breed anyway.

Some do, and that vexes me.

[franksolich]

They don't breed anyway.

Uh, it seems unfortunately some of them do.

Think of the wily primitive, "Wiley50," that worthless freeloading bum building an ark in the middle of Tennessee; he's got offspring by several different women, and one suspects his life-style is to evade child-support, sticking the rest of us with the bill.

[JohnnyReb]

Not breeding (and abortions) is why the mexicans are here in the US and the muslims are in Europe. ....but if the free loading would quit breeding, I think we could still manage.

[VivisMom]

They don't breed anyway.

Some do, and that vexes me.

Same. Why is it that you need a license to own a gun, a dog, and to drive a car, but any asshole can have a kid?

[EastFacingNorth]

They don't breed anyway.

Some do, and that vexes me.

Same. Why is it that you need a license to own a gun, a dog, and to drive a car, but any ******* can have a kid?

So what you're advocating is more government interference in private life?

These calls for licensure to procreate make me sick.  And they come from both sides of the political spectrum.

[Tucker]

ZombieHorde is a relative newbie. His ambition is to rise to the top of the DUmp pile. Frank, and only Frank makes social status rankings.

[ReardenSteel]

They don't breed anyway.

Some do, and that vexes me.

Same. Why is it that you need a license to own a gun, a dog, and to drive a car, but any ******* can have a kid?

Not to threadjack or anything but I think the proper question there is "Why is it that you need a license to own a gun, a dog, and to drive a car?"

"Over population" is a myth. Another liberal bogie man. 

[jukin]

Hey, I'm all for it.
A couple should have to pass an IQ test to procreate.
A couple should have to demonstrate they have the ways and means to support a child for 18 years.
And I'm all for eugenics too.

I'm with you BC.  I also think there should be an IQ and proof of net contributor to society tests for voting.


Oh and I will gladly supply razor blades and bullets to any DUchebag that walks the talk.

[docstew]

They don't breed anyway.

Some do, and that vexes me.

Same. Why is it that you need a license to own a gun, a dog, and to drive a car, but any ******* can have a kid?

Not to threadjack or anything but I think the proper question there is "Why is it that you need a license to own a gun, a dog, and to drive a car?"

"Over population" is a myth. Another liberal bogie man. 

beat me to it!

[ReardenSteel]

They don't breed anyway.

Some do, and that vexes me.

Same. Why is it that you need a license to own a gun, a dog, and to drive a car, but any ******* can have a kid?

Not to threadjack or anything but I think the proper question there is "Why is it that you need a license to own a gun, a dog, and to drive a car?"

"Over population" is a myth. Another liberal bogie man. 

beat me to it!

Great minds think alike! 







And so do ours.

[jukin]

So this homo calls hetros breeders and that isn't a hate crime?


By extension I can then call him: dirt poker, rump ranger, dick smoker, cock gobbler, fudge packer, cum gargler, bun darter, or any other various terms for fagots?


Or is this just another one way liberal street?

[EastFacingNorth]

They don't breed anyway.

Some do, and that vexes me.

Same. Why is it that you need a license to own a gun, a dog, and to drive a car, but any ******* can have a kid?

So what you're advocating is more government interference in private life?

These calls for licensure to procreate make me sick.  And they come from both sides of the political spectrum.

Hey, I'm all for it.
A couple should have to pass an IQ test to procreate.
A couple should have to demonstrate they have the ways and means to support a child for 18 years.
And I'm all for eugenics too.

I fully understand what you're getting at, but I'm troubled by that whole "The ends do not justify the means" thing.

Life would be so much easier if I were a bit more Machiavellian.

[Rebel]

DUmmies hate humans. They think we are killing "Gaia". They think we should just die off.

So, I guess my question is, what are they waiting for?

[TheSarge]

It's called child birth you fuc*king morons!

Only completely useless  like the DUmmies would refer to the miracle of childbirth as "breeding".