DUmmie responds to the Disabled blog

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TheMastersNemesis (4,543 posts)

On Rather Being Dead Than Disabled. My Response To The Post By Kama Aina.


I need to make a separate response to the post that Kama Aina made by the jerk who said they would rather be dead than disabled. They need to be in a situation where they face a decision about being dead or disabled. I remember so many academic philosophical arguments about what a person would do under such a circumstance. No one can know what you would do if you were faced with a life decision that is truly drastic.

I can really sympathize with Kama Aina on disability because I faced a really terrible decision on March 7, 2014. I had become infected with staph in my left foot. Partly because I did not fully understand my predicament soon enough I was told on March 6, 2014 that my left foot could NOT be saved from a raging staph infection. I was also septic as well. It did not take as much as heartbeat for me to decide my foot would have to be given up. The alternative was that I would not be around much longer unless I agreed to amputation. I could have never imagined ever being faced with such a decision in all those ACADEMIC arguments I remember from my you in philosophy classes.

To add insult to injury my right leg was infected as well. And when I woke up after surgery my left foot was not only gone as well as half my lower leg. What was even worse was that the left side of my right calf had a huge wound 6 inches long, 1 1/2 inches deep and 1 inch wide cut out of it. You could see the almost to the bone. And I was hooked up to a wound vacuums. And when they did the first wound change I thought my right leg was being sawed off without medication.

Go another month down the road and my right knee had to be flushed because I still had infection. And eventually I ended up with two separate pic lines and total of 53 days of antibiotics. I was one big mess and barely mobile for 3 months. And it took 9 months to heal good enough to start on a prosthetic.

I spent most of a year in a wheel chair. I also went on a trip to California for a week in a wheel chair. That adventure was quite a challenge. And I recently returned from Honolulu in using a wheel chair most of the time because my new legs was not yet fitting right.

Now I would not want to go through such a horrific medical event again. However being alive is still worth all the pain and suffering actually even though I was far from my previous fully functional self. I am on my way back and my prosthesis is getting better. You do not just get a new leg and start walking immediately. It is a difficult trial and error process.

Having said all of this I have met others who face a much more difficult challenges than I. And I have met a lot of people who value living enough to work through much more challenging disabilities than I.

A person might believe they would rather be dead a than disabled. How terribly short sighted. And may they NEVER face being disabled.

I CAN GUARANTEE ANYONE ONE THING. WHEN YOU FACE TERRIBLE DECISIONS THAT OTHERS MUST MAKE BEING DISABLED OR DEAD, IN MANY CASES A PERSON WILL CHOOSE MUCH MORE DISABILITY THAN THEY COULD EVER IMAGINE BEFORE THEY GIVE UP ON LIVING.

Then again look at Mr. Hawking.

Not sure what to think about this. DUmmies lie all the time.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026404253

[Carl]

Of course,in typical "LOOK AT ME!!!!" fashion,peg leg Bob has to start a thread rather then just respond to the other one. 

[franksolich]

Of course,in typical "LOOK AT ME!!!!" fashion,peg leg Bob has to start a thread rather then just respond to the other one. 

I find the primitives' attitude about this inexcusably hypocritical, especially given their anti-pro-life ideology.

If one consults a standard-and-usual textbook on pre-natal medicine, one notices it's suggested that a pre-born infant with microtia (absence of ears) be aborted, because such a person can have "no quality of life."

Hmmmmm.

[GOBUCKS]

Don't take Bob's word for it, he's biased.

Most impartial observers here would much prefer him dead.

[diesel driver]

I find the primitives' attitude about this inexcusably hypocritical, especially given their anti-pro-life ideology.

If one consults a standard-and-usual textbook on pre-natal medicine, one notices it's suggested that a pre-born infant with microtia (absence of ears) be aborted, because such a person can have "no quality of life."

Hmmmmm.

Thank God your mother wasn't a liberal.  Else, we here at the Cave wouldn't have the honor and privilege of knowing you, Frank.      

[obumazombie]

Thank God your mother wasn't a liberal.  Else, we here at the Cave wouldn't have the honor and privilege of knowing you, Frank.      

Ditto.

Most libs are ignorant of the milk of human kindness.
Obviously your dear Mother had it in spades.

[HawkHogan]

There's a lot of liberal philosophers and professors who think disabled people should be terminated post-birth. 
Especially mentally challenged individuals.

Disgusting fascists, in my opinion.

[98ZJUSMC]

TheMastersNemesis (4,543 posts)

On Rather Being Dead Than Disabled. My Response To The Post By Kama Aina.


I need to make a separate response to the post that Kama Aina made by the jerk who said they would rather be dead than disabled. They need to be in a situation where they face a decision about being dead or disabled. I remember so many academic philosophical arguments

        

[98ZJUSMC]

Don't take Bob's word for it, he's biased.

Most impartial observers here would much prefer him dead.

 

[diesel driver]

My little brother lost his right arm in a piece of farm equipment at the age of 4.  That was back in 1968.

My other brother and I didn't treat him any differently than we would have if he had 2 arms, in fact, we really didn't notice anything he couldn't do that we could.

Today he is the IT for the local county government, and the fastest one-handed typist I have ever seen.  He has remodeled his house BY HIMSELF, assembled a kit car BY HIMSELF, and his previous job was running a CNC lathe for a local machine company. 

And he does it all "single-handedly"!   

[obumazombie]

My little brother lost his right arm in a piece of farm equipment at the age of 4.  That was back in 1968.

My other brother and I didn't treat him any differently than we would have if he had 2 arms, in fact, we really didn't notice anything he couldn't do that we could.

Today he is the IT for the local county government, and the fastest one-handed typist I have ever seen.  He has remodeled his house BY HIMSELF, assembled a kit car BY HIMSELF, and his previous job was running a CNC lathe for a local machine company. 

And he does it all "single-handedly"!   

Does more work with one hand than 100 able bodies libs do with both.

[diesel driver]

Does more work with one hand than 100 able bodies libs do with both.

Hell, he WORKS with 100 able bodied libs, and he's the FIRST person who gets called when the SHTF.   

[docstew]

There's a lot of liberal philosophers and professors who think disabled people should be terminated post-birth. 
Especially mentally challenged individuals.

Disgusting fascists, in my opinion.

Someone should remind them that the Holocaust wasn't just against the Jews. Nazis followed exactly the above procedure.

[obumazombie]

Someone should remind them that the Holocaust wasn't just against the Jews. Nazis followed exactly the above procedure.

The Khmer Rouge enslaved all their people on farms, shot all the sick and injured, shot all the "intellectuals" and anyone who spoke out against them.

[docstew]

The Khmer Rouge enslaved all their people on farms, shot all the sick and injured, shot all the "intellectuals" and anyone who spoke out against them.

So, what you're saying is that "Big Daddy Government" being in charge of everything ends up with mass quantities of disabled people murdered...