Rick Perry Endorses Ted Cruz

[HawkHogan]

Yes, but hes very plainly stated that he agrees with it. That is a direct window into his view about the relationship between government and citizens. Anyone espousing that view of the relationship between citizens and government should unconditionally unambiguously scare the hell out of everyone. The answer to everything, is smaller government. We definitely aren't going to get that by electing a guy who goes on the national stage and embraces big government. Cruz is the better candidate in that regard, and its not even close. Again, not singling anyone out, but thats how I see it.


CMD

And small government won't exist if immigration isn't changed.  He's the one candidate who has emphasized immigration from day one of his candidacy.  Ted Cruz is the only real alternative, although it took him a while to change his tune on h1b visa increases.

Rubio ran in Florida as tough on immigration, got the Tea Party's support, then went to DC and pushed amnesty.  He's a fraud.  I'd vote for Kasich before I'd vote for Rubio, at least Kasich is honest about his politics.

[HawkHogan]

Founding Fathers looked upon private property ownership as one of the basic building blocks of a free society.

Intrude on a persons right to own property...you are restricting their liberty.

Why people are ok with that is beyond me.

And the ideals of the Constitution will be no more in a generation or two if we don't stem immigration.  Rubio's amnesty bill would have been the end of constitutional conservatism.  Amnesty for 30 million illegal immigrants, and a over a 50 percent increase in legal immigration, with an even sharper increase in h1-b visas.  Over 70 percent of immigrants are voting for the Democrats, who are hell bent on destroying the Constitution.

Rubio has disqualified himself, and if the Establishment hoists him upon us like John McCain, many, many conservatives will sit out.  Better the devil I know then the one I don't

[HawkHogan]

I think HH is pretty close to what Winkler is saying, which doesn't strain credulity:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/10/19/the-nra-will-fall-its-inevitable/?tid=sm_fb

Agreed. All those laws that the current administration ignores could well be put to good use under an administration that respects the rule of law. Obama and his shills respect nothing but their own power.

Rubio and Obama have the same views on immigration.  Obama, Rubio, Bush, and Clinton have the same war on nation building and proxy wars.

[HawkHogan]

You have yet to show a logical line between illegal immigration and repeal of the 2nd Amendment.  The two aren't connected...except in your head.

And besides the laws are already in place to shut down illegal immigration and better control our borders.  We don't need a Republican version of Obama with his pen    and a phone claiming he's going to do it singlehandedly.

We need someone that will abide by the Constitution and enforce the laws that are already on the books.


Never said he did.  But he sure as hell supports it.


Bush wasn't a Conservative.  We need a Constitutional Conservative.  There's only one in the race.

So you'd rather have Bernie or Hillary finish what Obama started?

I haven't shown a logical connection?  How about the polling data?  Rubio and the establishment are intent on shifting the demographics of the country, along with Obama, Clinton, etc.

In another generation or two, if nothing is done to curb illegal immigration and to fix our disastrous legal immigration, these debates over Kelo and the 2nd Amendment are irrelevant.  Contrary to Jeb Bush, you aren't selling immigrants on the virtues of conservatism.  The exit poll data doesn't lie. 

[Big Dog]

And small government won't exist if immigration isn't changed...

Better the devil I know then the one I don't...

In another generation or two, if nothing is done to curb illegal immigration and to fix our disastrous legal immigration, these debates over Kelo and the 2nd Amendment are irrelevant...

My objection to that argument is, it boils down to "we need larger, more intrusive government which ignores the Constitution now, so we can save the Constitution later", which is like saying "we had to destroy the village to save it"; and it depends on a benevolent despot who will relinquish power once he has achieved your goals.  But, once the Constitution is dead, no amount of CPR will bring it back; the State doesn't give up power, once it has taken it; and the benevolent despot is a charming fiction.

[CollectivismMustDie]

And small government won't exist if immigration isn't changed.  He's the one candidate who has emphasized immigration from day one of his candidacy.  Ted Cruz is the only real alternative, although it took him a while to change his tune on h1b visa increases.

Rubio ran in Florida as tough on immigration, got the Tea Party's support, then went to DC and pushed amnesty.  He's a fraud.  I'd vote for Kasich before I'd vote for Rubio, at least Kasich is honest about his politics.

The difference is, Cruz isn't likely to increase the size scope and power of government, AND he wont appoint another roberts, or any sotomayor or kagen.

Can you say the same about trump?


CMD

[Eupher]

The difference is, Cruz isn't likely to increase the size scope and power of government, AND he wont appoint another roberts, or any sotomayor or kagen.

Can you say the same about trump?


CMD

I think this analysis is spot on:

http://theresurgent.com/cruz-vs-rubio/

[J P Sousa]

I think this analysis is spot on:

http://theresurgent.com/cruz-vs-rubio/

 

[HawkHogan]

The difference is, Cruz isn't likely to increase the size scope and power of government, AND he wont appoint another roberts, or any sotomayor or kagen.

Can you say the same about trump?


CMD

I love Cruz, but the writing is on the wall. The Establishment has now shifted to "Marco-mentum" mode.  Just put on Fox News for a couple minutes and you will see segments about how Rubio is the only one who can beat Hillary.  It's the same nonsense they were doing with Jeb until they realized how awful of a candidate he was. 

[CollectivismMustDie]

I love Cruz, but the writing is on the wall. The Establishment has now shifted to "Marco-mentum" mode.  Just put on Fox News for a couple minutes and you will see segments about how Rubio is the only one who can beat Hillary.  It's the same nonsense they were doing with Jeb until they realized how awful of a candidate he was.

Of course they are, that is the establishment, that is what they do. But what they say will only be true if we make it so. We didn't with jeb, and we shouldn't with trump.

CMD

[CollectivismMustDie]

I think this analysis is spot on:

http://theresurgent.com/cruz-vs-rubio/

Yup:

“If voters feel like things are coming to an end in this country without drastic action, they really do not have a choice between Rubio and Cruz. They have only Cruz.”

Exactly, although...

My personal opinion, is that we are well past voting our way out of any of this, and that its only a matter of time before things get...really ugly. When I say really ugly, I mean in a way we haven't seen in roughly 250 years.


CMD

[CollectivismMustDie]

And small government won't exist if immigration isn't changed.  He's the one candidate who has emphasized immigration from day one of his candidacy.  Ted Cruz is the only real alternative, although it took him a while to change his tune on h1b visa increases.

Its a question of priority.

Immigration could wait another 8 years, and could still be turned around.

When one or more of the conservative justices are replaced with the likes of sotomayor or kagan, the game is over. Done. Not tomorrow, not next week or next year, but NOW. For the rest of your life and mine, maybe even permanently. So long as a real conservative majority exists on the USSC, the game is still in play.

If I had to choose between 8 more years of illegals invading but a strong conservative USSC,  OR immigration fixed now and a stupid lefty USSC, it wouldn't even be a choice.

We can fix immigration to our hearts content now, but if it means a lefty USSC they'll just come back later and undo the fix, and we'll have done nothing but delay the loss, gaining nothing.

On edit: Think of both immigration and the USSC appointments as bombs. One has a much longer slower fuse than the other.

CMD

[Big Dog]

My personal opinion, is that we are well past voting our way out of any of this, and that its only a matter of time before things get...really ugly. When I say really ugly, I mean in a way we haven't seen in roughly 250 years.

Yup.

[HawkHogan]

Its a question of priority.

Immigration could wait another 8 years, and could still be turned around.

When one or more of the conservative justices are replaced with the likes of sotomayor or kagan, the game is over. Done. Not tomorrow, not next week or next year, but NOW. For the rest of your life and mine, maybe even permanently. So long as a real conservative majority exists on the USSC, the game is still in play.

If I had to choose between 8 more years of illegals invading but a strong conservative USSC,  OR immigration fixed now and a stupid lefty USSC, it wouldn't even be a choice.

We can fix immigration to our hearts content now, but if it means a lefty USSC they'll just come back later and undo the fix, and we'll have done nothing but delay the loss, gaining nothing.

On edit: Think of both immigration and the USSC appointments as bombs. One has a much longer slower fuse than the other.

CMD

Rubio will deliver amnesty in his first year in office.  He already has his pro-amnesty shill in place in Ryan.  So if the Establishment is really as smart as they think they are, they will know Rubio isn't delivering the election. 

And Christie is hammering him tonight about his robotic platitudes.

[CollectivismMustDie]

Rubio will deliver amnesty in his first year in office.  He already has his pro-amnesty shill in place in Ryan.  So if the Establishment is really as smart as they think they are, they will know Rubio isn't delivering the election. 

And Christie is hammering him tonight about his robotic platitudes.

This is possibly true, assuming he gets elected and gets a Congress that is willing to hand him the bill, but thats a maybe within a maybe.

Appointing USSC justices is something that the next president needs no such prior action by Congress to attempt. Personally, I trust Congress less when it comes to approving the suggestions of a president, than I do when it comes to a bill making it all the way through Congress to the president,  though even that may be giving them too much credit.


CMD

[libertybele]

You can shut down the border and and go back to 1924 rules where we let zero people in...build the biggest wall you can along the Rio Grande and kick out every illegal that ran jumped or swam here and it won't stop the assault on the Constitution by the left.

Tightening up immigration won't stop the left from trying to repeal the 2nd Amendment.  It won't stop the Libtards from pushing mythical "rights" for gays to marry or the "right" to abortion on demand.  It won't stop their assault on free speech or the 9th and 10th Amendment.

Illegal immigration isn't the biggest problem we face...Marxist Liberals and their general assault on the Constitution and our way of life is the biggest threat.

Hi-5!  Well stated.  The liberal progressive assault on the Constitution is our biggest threat and I believe right now the only thing that is stopping them is our 2nd amendment rights.