The Conservative Cave
Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Ptarmigan on December 01, 2014, 08:33:53 PM
-
Fatal hammer attack on Bosnian immigrant not racially motivated, St. Louis police say
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/motorist-beaten-to-death-by-several-juveniles-with-hammers-teens/article_9f15bf49-c8b7-5bc3-8671-ac291f666084.html
UPDATED at 4:25 p.m. with charges
ST. LOUIS • A 17-year-old St. Louis man has been charged with first-degree murder and armed criminal action in the bludgeoning death of a Bosnian immigrant.
Police say Robert Mitchell along with two other teens, both juveniles, attacked the 32-year-old man with hammers early Sunday. He was pronounced dead at a hospital. Mitchell and one of the juveniles are black and the other teen is Hispanic, according to police.
A police spokeswoman said investigators do not believe race played a role in the bludgeoning death of a Bosnian immigrant early Sunday, but declined to say what authorities believe is the motive in the killing.
The victim, Zemir Begic, is a Bosnian immigrant and possibly a Muslim.
But detectives do not believe Begic's Bosnian heritage or the color of his skin served as a motive in any way, police spokeswoman Schron Jackson said.
I call BS on this one. :bs: I suspect that Michael Brown could be a factor here.
-
They first attacked his car for no reason other than he was white.
-
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3znaGICIAAtA_C.png)]
Nothing from the New York Slime. :mental:
-
They saw a white man in "their" neighborhood and attacked him.
-
Balkanization has winners , beware ... :popcorn:
-
Of course....
-
A more modern day Reginald Denny. If a black attempts murder of a white in "protest" every effort is made to justify it, minimize or excuse it.
-
A more modern day Reginald Denny. If a black attempts murder of a white in "protest" every effort is made to justify it, minimize or excuse it.
But let a White CCW/CHL/CWP holder be attacked by a Mob (Of Dazzling Urbanite Gangster Brats) and he shoots his way out of certain death ( Killing 3 and wounding 7 ) There would be a Nationwide push (Including the Feds) to suspend all CCW/CHL/CWP in America .
-
St. Louis’ Bosnian community sees hammer murder as hate crime
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/02/where-outrage-st-louis-bosnian-community-sees-hammer-murder-as-hate-crime/?intcmp=trending
Insistence by St. Louis officials that the beating death of a Bosnian man was not a hate crime is being met with skepticism and anger, according to leaders of the city's 70,000-strong Bosnian community, and the victim's brother is calling on authorities to "investigate every possible motive."
Zemir Begic, a 32-year-old man who emigrated from war-torn Bosnia almost two decades ago in search of a better life, was bludgeoned to death Sunday, allegedly by a group of hammer-wielding teenagers, one of whom has been charged as an adult. Begic was driving with his fiancee, Arijana Mujkanovic, and a male passenger at about 1:15 a.m. Sunday in St. Louis when five teenagers began pounding his vehicle with a hammer, according to police. When Begic confronted them, he was struck in the mouth, face, head and body with hammers and died at a nearby hospital.
"Zemir was a good person who would have given you the clothes off his back," his 20-year-old brother, Rasim Begic, told FoxNews.com Tuesday. "He never had any problems with anyone."
This sounds like a hate crime and no I am no fan of hate crime laws.
-
St. Louis’ Bosnian community sees hammer murder as hate crime
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/02/where-outrage-st-louis-bosnian-community-sees-hammer-murder-as-hate-crime/?intcmp=trending
This sounds like a hate crime and no I am no fan of hate crime laws.
The biggest problem with hate crime laws is that they are aimed at protecting certain groups, and are not applied where hate really exists.
-
The biggest problem with hate crime laws is that they are aimed at protecting certain groups, and are not applied where hate really exists.
I can't think of many crimes that aren't hateful.
-
I can't think of many crimes that aren't hateful.
Many muggings are crimes of opportunity, however a hate crime by the left's definition mean's that a minority was targeted by a white.
-
Total crap, not fooling anybody but the press and the White House, who want to be fooled about it.
-
Many muggings are crimes of opportunity, however a hate crime by the left's definition mean's that a minority was targeted by a white.
Kinda like when the mafia has to mug, rob, hit or otherwise hurt someone...it's nothing personal.
-
This Ferguson thing is beginning to shape up just like Obama and Holder hoped it would.....a race war.
-
The community agitator has the whole country in a severe case of agitation.
-
The biggest problem with hate crime laws is that they are aimed at protecting certain groups, and are not applied where hate really exists.
My problem with hate crimes is that it criminalizes thought, not action. How can you prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, what someone was thinking? Just like OZ said, most crimes, and especially violent crimes, are hateful. You engage in them based upon your hate, whether it is hate of society, hate of financial situation, etc.
-
My problem with hate crimes is that it criminalizes thought, not action. How can you prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, what someone was thinking? Just like OZ said, most crimes, and especially violent crimes, are hateful. You engage in them based upon your hate, whether it is hate of society, hate of financial situation, etc.
I agree with that, but it seems the burden o proof for hate crimes is much lower when a minority is the victims, than when a white person is the victim.
I don't think I heard about any of the Knock Out game perps being charged with a hate crime.