Taverner (54,154 posts)
I was never in the military. What did I miss?
Last edited Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:15 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Other than waking up at 5 am and marching up and down the square?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLJ8ILIE780#at=19[/youtube]
Having spent 29.5 years on active duty, I'm eternally grateful he wasn't. We had plenty of dipshits as it was.
DUmp link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018442185)
What did he miss? I barely know where to begin - but self-respect is a decent starting point...
DUmp link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018442185)
What did he miss? I barely know where to begin - but self-respect is a decent starting point...
I don't know about the new pro-homo 0military, but in the past they took a dim view of nodding heroin addicts in uniform.
Quote from: Aristotelian on Today at 09:46:12 am
I'm trying to decide whether his joining the military would have caused him to get (a) sorted out and become a decent member of society, or (b) a dishonourable discharge within the first couple of weeks.
I'm trying to decide whether his joining the military would have caused him to get (a) sorted out and become a decent member of society, or (b) a dishonourable discharge within the first couple of weeks.
I'm trying to decide whether his joining the military would have caused him to get (a) sorted out and become a decent member of society, or (b) a dishonourable discharge within the first couple of weeks.
Like the bad dog said, Tavs, the military is eternally grateful for your decision.
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Having spent 29.5 years on active duty, I'm eternally grateful he wasn't. We had plenty of dipshits as it was.
Response to hunter (Reply #11)Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:35 PM
Taverner (54,161 posts)
14. You know where I am coming from then
I would have no problem signing up for Citizen's Duty
But war? Killing other people?
I can't do that.
It's not natural.
It's not what a species is supposed to do.
Killing another person over something someone did in a boardroom is hardly justification to take away a life.
The only race that matters is the human race...
I'm trying to decide whether his joining the military would have caused him to get (a) sorted out and become a decent member of society, or (b) a dishonourable discharge within the first couple of weeks.
Citizen's Duty? What, pray tell, does he think that entails? :lmao:
Citizen's Duty? What, pray tell, does he think that entails?It's like citizen's arrest, but not as official.
Citizen's Duty? What, pray tell, does he think that entails? :lmao:
(http://rlv.zcache.com/thomas_paine_duty_of_patriot_2_protect_his_country_bumper_sticker-r4154be33f48e4eaabf16148ba4d6468e_v9wht_8byvr_512.jpg)
Star Member hunter (16,689 posts)Right.
11. My father-in-law got to experience a nuclear explosion up close from a hole in the ground...
... then look up in the sky at the mushroom cloud forming and march around the burning desert near ground zero a few minutes later.
My dad got to shoot at innocent sand dunes in California. The Korean War ended before he was scheduled to go there.
During World War II one of my grandpas was an officer who got crazy people deemed essential to the war effort out of jail. He was the dashingly handsome Captain with a big-ass government car accompanied by two military cops.
"We'll take it from here, sheriff..."
No matter that the sheriff's prisoner had been caught in a gay bar, whorehouse, or had spent the night in the drunk tank after crashing a "borrowed" car into a tree.
My grandpa was so good at this they made him a major. He'd joined the Army Air Force because he was a romantic who loved airplanes, not because he could intimidate small town cops and judges with his Hollywood suave. When the war ended the Army Air Force didn't need or want fixers like him so he became an engineer and worked on the Apollo Project. Sometime during the war, hanging out with misfits and axis defectors, he'd gained a knack for making things out of titanium. Engineering was his true calling, no matter where the military had placed him.
My other grandfather was a pacifist during World War II. When his number came up he told them he'd rather die than kill another human so they gave him the option of going to jail or building Liberty and Victory ships. He was a Farrier who knew hot metal so he decided building cargo ships was better option than a jail cell.
When I graduated from college I got some intense courting from the Navy. Offers of Instant Captain! My girlfriend at the time had inherited her dad's business which was maybe half military contracts. I'd written some nifty data acquisition software for her. Eventually the Navy promised me a civilian position because I'm pacifist like my grandpa. But then I broke up with her and the Navy recruiters abandoned me. Didn't help much that I really was crazy. (Modern crazy meds are much better.)
My sister and my wife had similar experiences with the military. Recruiters used to drive up to my parents' house in the country and we'd tell them to go away, my sister said no, and if you get out of the car these dogs WILL bite you. My sister is a paramedic who deals with accidents, not deliberate war. Just as bloody, but easier on the conscience.
My wife had similar experiences. Once we got a ten thousand dollar check in the mail and a promise to pay off her student loans, which exceeded $100,000 at the time.
My wife just said "No."
She was thinking it was time to settle down and have kids, not be sent to Greenland or some other distant military place. (My schooled guess was Germany or Japan.) Sometimes I wonder how life might have been had she signed that check, but not often.
One of my siblings has a godson who ended up in Iraq scraping up the bodies of dead servicemen and putting them in bags to send home. He'll always have scars from that and he'll never be right. He saw too much.
Offers of Instant Captain!:banghead:
Taverner (54,154 posts)
I was never in the military. What did I miss?
Star Member hunter (16,689 posts)
Taverner (54,154 posts)
I was never in the military. What did I miss?
Last edited Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:15 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Other than waking up at 5 am and marching up and down the square?
Serving something other than your own selfish whims, cretin.
My grandpa was so good at this they made him a major. He'd joined the Army Air Force because he was a romantic who loved airplanes, not because he could intimidate small town cops and judges with his Hollywood suave. When the war ended the Army Air Force didn't need or want fixers like him so he became an engineer and worked on the Apollo Project. Sometime during the war, hanging out with misfits and axis defectors, he'd gained a knack for making things out of titanium. Engineering was his true calling, no matter where the military had placed him.
:banghead:The ignorance of the author of that lie is belied by not knowing that in the Navy and Coast Guard (idk about Merchant Marine) a Captain is an O-6. Only in the AF, Army and Marines is a Captain an O-3.
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Yea right, Titanium was soooo plentiful during the 40's and 50's ::) Not to mention the equipment to work with Titanium. Bouncy of the lowest order.This is the DUmmy who was offered, but refused, a U. S. Navy captain's commission upon his graduation from college.
This is the DUmmy who was offered, but refused, a U. S. Navy captain's commission upon his graduation from college.
He would likely have been the only 21-year-old captain in the history of the Navy.
Why would you not believe a man with that kind of credentials?
They made the offer because he was the only DUmmy who ever beat the Kobiyashi Maru scenario. :rotf:He backed up a tractor trailer into the Neutral Zone.
He backed up a tractor trailer into the Neutral Zone.
Was that before, or after he made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs? :lmao:
^5 for working in both a Star Trek and Star Wars quote.
You would have received bonus 5's for a Quark reference.
The United Galactic Sanitation Patrol ship had the sexiest twins on TV bar none. :naughty:
Taverner (54,154 posts)
I was never in the military.