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Offline Aristotelian

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Tav was never in the military
« on: July 24, 2013, 12:30:17 PM »
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I was never in the military. What did I miss?

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Other than waking up at 5 am and marching up and down the square?

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What did he miss? I barely know where to begin - but self-respect is a decent starting point...

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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2013, 12:37:34 PM »
Having spent 29.5 years on active duty, I'm eternally grateful he wasn't.  We had plenty of dipshits as it was.

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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2013, 12:46:12 PM »
Having spent 29.5 years on active duty, I'm eternally grateful he wasn't.  We had plenty of dipshits as it was.

I'm trying to decide whether his joining the military would have caused him to get (a) sorted out and become a decent member of society, or (b) a dishonourable discharge within the first couple of weeks.

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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2013, 12:58:57 PM »
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What did he miss? I barely know where to begin - but self-respect is a decent starting point...

I don't know about the new pro-homo 0military, but in the past they took a dim view of nodding heroin addicts in uniform.

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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2013, 01:08:27 PM »
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What did he miss? I barely know where to begin - but self-respect is a decent starting point...

Agree with that.  :hi5:

I don't know about the new pro-homo 0military, but in the past they took a dim view of nodding heroin addicts in uniform.

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I'm trying to decide whether his joining the military would have caused him to get (a) sorted out and become a decent member of society, or (b) a dishonourable discharge within the first couple of weeks.

(b).  No doubt, in my military mind.  Seen it.  His type does not have the force of will nor the ability to discipline his or her mind to overcome the physical.
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2013, 01:11:04 PM »
I'm trying to decide whether his joining the military would have caused him to get (a) sorted out and become a decent member of society, or (b) a dishonourable discharge within the first couple of weeks.

Without a doubt, (b). With a lot of luck, it would not have involved the death or injury of others around him.
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2013, 01:34:56 PM »
You didn't miss anything, Tav.  Go ahead and shoot up again, you tard.
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2013, 01:58:52 PM »
I'm trying to decide whether his joining the military would have caused him to get (a) sorted out and become a decent member of society, or (b) a dishonourable discharge within the first couple of weeks.

First few months they get an Unsuitability Discharge.  More or less no harm no foul but no bennies and future employers don't much like them.

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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2013, 03:19:12 PM »
Like the bad dog said, Tavs, the military is eternally grateful for your decision.

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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2013, 03:22:16 PM »
Like the bad dog said, Tavs, the military is eternally grateful for your decision.

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Rather than thinking it's a good thing the idiot primitive never was in the military, I'm more so wondering the point of the idiot primitive's comment.

All I can think is "whoop-whoop-de-do."
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2013, 03:24:27 PM »
Tav you idiot, you would have one of those that I escorted to the gate. 
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2013, 03:25:26 PM »
Having spent 29.5 years on active duty, I'm eternally grateful he wasn't.  We had plenty of dipshits as it was.

Amen brother. 
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2013, 07:10:30 PM »
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Response to hunter (Reply #11)Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:35 PM
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14. You know where I am coming from then

I would have no problem signing up for Citizen's Duty

But war? Killing other people?

I can't do that.

It's not natural.

It's not what a species is supposed to do.

Killing another person over something someone did in a boardroom is hardly justification to take away a life.

The only race that matters is the human race...

Citizen's duty?  Obama's brownshirts?  That is duty a DUmmy would do with gusto.
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2013, 07:19:58 PM »
I'm trying to decide whether his joining the military would have caused him to get (a) sorted out and become a decent member of society, or (b) a dishonourable discharge within the first couple of weeks.

I vote (c) Fragged.
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 07:33:57 PM »
Citizen's Duty?  What, pray tell, does he think that entails?  :lmao:
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2013, 07:43:11 PM »
Citizen's Duty?  What, pray tell, does he think that entails?  :lmao:

Knowing him, probably sitting on his ass, making shitty .midi sound files, shooting up, and collecting a paycheck.

Memo to Tav--don't fret your pretty little head over your having not served.  No way you would have been able to pack the gear.  Trust me on that one.
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2013, 08:41:47 PM »
Citizen's Duty?  What, pray tell, does he think that entails? 
It's like citizen's arrest, but not as official.

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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2013, 08:45:44 PM »
Citizen's Duty?  What, pray tell, does he think that entails?  :lmao:

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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2013, 08:55:15 PM »


I don't think that that is what Tav had in mind.
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2013, 10:06:58 PM »
Well, he missed the oppurtunity to see the world, to work with people with differing backgrounds and points of view, to be handed exlosives when he's eighteen, to push himself beyond his "limits" and find out what he's truly capable of doing, the oppurtunity to actually help the people he claims to give a damn about......

Wait this is Tavs...what did he miss?  Being chewed out by a DI for showing up looking like a ragamuffin, getting his ass kicked by his fellow recruits for being a useless waste of skin, getting an article 15 for missing movement because he decided to sleep in for morning chow, getting cashiered after they checked his bags and found heroin, and this all on the first day of indoc before he even got to basic.

(All this is coming from a recruit who actualy gave another recruit a bloody nose in indoc.)
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2013, 06:41:39 AM »
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11. My father-in-law got to experience a nuclear explosion up close from a hole in the ground...

... then look up in the sky at the mushroom cloud forming and march around the burning desert near ground zero a few minutes later.

My dad got to shoot at innocent sand dunes in California. The Korean War ended before he was scheduled to go there.

During World War II one of my grandpas was an officer who got crazy people deemed essential to the war effort out of jail. He was the dashingly handsome Captain with a big-ass government car accompanied by two military cops.

"We'll take it from here, sheriff..."

No matter that the sheriff's prisoner had been caught in a gay bar, whorehouse, or had spent the night in the drunk tank after crashing a "borrowed" car into a tree.

My grandpa was so good at this they made him a major. He'd joined the Army Air Force because he was a romantic who loved airplanes, not because he could intimidate small town cops and judges with his Hollywood suave. When the war ended the Army Air Force didn't need or want fixers like him so he became an engineer and worked on the Apollo Project. Sometime during the war, hanging out with misfits and axis defectors, he'd gained a knack for making things out of titanium. Engineering was his true calling, no matter where the military had placed him.

My other grandfather was a pacifist during World War II. When his number came up he told them he'd rather die than kill another human so they gave him the option of going to jail or building Liberty and Victory ships. He was a Farrier who knew hot metal so he decided building cargo ships was better option than a jail cell.

When I graduated from college I got some intense courting from the Navy. Offers of Instant Captain!
My girlfriend at the time had inherited her dad's business which was maybe half military contracts. I'd written some nifty data acquisition software for her. Eventually the Navy promised me a civilian position because I'm pacifist like my grandpa. But then I broke up with her and the Navy recruiters abandoned me. Didn't help much that I really was crazy. (Modern crazy meds are much better.)

My sister and my wife had similar experiences with the military. Recruiters used to drive up to my parents' house in the country and we'd tell them to go away, my sister said no, and if you get out of the car these dogs WILL bite you. My sister is a paramedic who deals with accidents, not deliberate war. Just as bloody, but easier on the conscience.

My wife had similar experiences. Once we got a ten thousand dollar check in the mail and a promise to pay off her student loans, which exceeded $100,000 at the time.

My wife just said "No."

She was thinking it was time to settle down and have kids, not be sent to Greenland or some other distant military place. (My schooled guess was Germany or Japan.) Sometimes I wonder how life might have been had she signed that check, but not often.

One of my siblings has a godson who ended up in Iraq scraping up the bodies of dead servicemen and putting them in bags to send home. He'll always have scars from that and he'll never be right. He saw too much.
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2013, 06:50:33 AM »
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2013, 08:02:44 AM »
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2013, 08:06:19 AM »
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I was never in the military. What did I miss?

Not having to serve time when the judge gave you the option to join the military to avoid going to jail.
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Re: Tav was never in the military
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2013, 08:21:26 AM »
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Well this is one of the most un appropriately named DUches of all time. A pacifist with the screen name of Hunter? Wow...

As to Taverner and his stupid comments about what he missed by not being in the military. He will never know the answer to that question. I could say that it was a sense of discipline, honor, and integrity. But DUches do not and cannot understand these concepts.

To all the DUches who agreed with the OP, kiss my proud to be a soldier in the United States Army ass!  :bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird:
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