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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2012 => Topic started by: Kyle Ricky on June 26, 2012, 01:13:46 PM
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There is a lot of speculation that Romney will chose Rubio as his running mate (although it isn't set in stone yet, and no one really knows who he will pick. But all the news outlets seem to feel that Rubio is in the forefront). Do you think that will help him, or hurt him?
The reason I ask this is because Romney has to chose a good and legit Running mate. Someone who will help his get elected.
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He could do worse.
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It will help him in FL. Maybe a couple of other states. I was hoping Susanna Martinez, the governor of NM, but she's nowhere nearly as well-known. You'd have to be living in a cave to not know who Marco Rubio is.
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Yeah, I was thinking that it will help him in Florida as well. I can just imagine what the liberals will do if he does chose him. I Hope, if he does chose Rubio, it works out for him.
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Probably Rubio. But I'm going to guess Rand Paul as a dark horse.
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Rubio said on Hannity that Romney was not vetting him.
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Rubio said on Hannity that Romney was not vetting him.
Romney said last week that he was.
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That would be a good match and Rubio would certainly help him in FL and several other states. I betcha the Democrats are praying that Mitt picks someone else.
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That would be a good match and Rubio would certainly help him in FL and several other states. I betcha the Democrats are praying that Mitt picks someone else.
Yep. Like I said, I can just imagine what they will do if Romney does pick him.
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Yep. Like I said, I can just imagine what they will do if Romney does pick him.
He will be labelled a Tio Tomas' just like Herman Cain was.
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He will be labelled a Tio Tomas' just like Herman Cain was.
Maybe, but he will make a better Vice President than Crazy Joe Biden.
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I thought Rubio said he wasn't interested.
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I thought Rubio said he wasn't interested.
They all have to say that (except Trump).
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Do ya think that the Romney campaign let slip who they have tapped prior to the convention in August?
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Do ya think that the Romney campaign let slip who they have tapped prior to the convention in August?
Probably not. They only do that if the campaign is circling the bowl like McLame had to.
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfflHm7i1vE[/youtube]
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Rubio is young and if Romney needs Rubio to carry Florida hes probably not going to win anyways. I think its going to be Portman
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Rubio is young and if Romney needs Rubio to carry Florida hes probably not going to win anyways. I think its going to be Portman
I've heard whispers to that effect too. I also agree that if Romney needs Rubio to carry Florida hes probably not going to win.I also believe that if he picks a flavor of the day politician as a VP candidate he more than likely can't win.
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I've heard whispers to that effect too. I also agree that if Romney needs Rubio to carry Florida hes probably not going to win.I also believe that if he picks a flavor of the day politician as a VP candidate he more than likely can't win.
That is what I meant when I said he needs to pick a good and legitimate running mate. His running mate choice will have a huge effect on whether he gets elected or not. I think Portman would be a good choice as well, as well as Scott Walker.
One of the things that upset me recently is that Santorum said that he won't take a job in the Romney administration if asked. I was hoping that he would be picked for Attorney General. But I also have to give him some props, as he wants to be with his brave little daughter, bless her heart.
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I'd be cool with Rubio, but given that he says he hasn't been vetted for it, which takes some time like any thorough background check, and there isn't a huge amount of time until the convention, that isn't looking like what will happen. The good part of that would be keeping Rubio's Senate seat in known and trusted hands, at least.
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I'd be cool with Rubio, but given that he says he hasn't been vetted for it, which takes some time like any thorough background check, and there isn't a huge amount of time until the convention, that isn't looking like what will happen. The good part of that would be keeping Rubio's Senate seat in known and trusted hands, at least.
Look above at the video I posted. Romney said that he is thoroughly vetting him.
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Look above at the video I posted. Romney said that he is thoroughly vetting him.
I do not understand why conservatives fall for rumors and or lies put out by the liberal media. Take what you hear with a grain of salt.
As it stands, Repubs do NOT have Fl in the bag. Rubio would be a game changer there and for other states also. He would be Obama's worst nightmare because of the minority voters that would be attracked to the Repub ticket.
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Look above at the video I posted. Romney said that he is thoroughly vetting him.
I don't doubt this at all, but let's be real -- ALL potential candidates should be thoroughly vetted. Rubio, if he's part of the overall mix, could well be one of 15 potential candidates. Rubio might even make the short list in which case the investigators should be digging really, really deep to find out all the skeletons in the closets -- and you'd better believe there will something there that the Dems would pounce on in order to make Rubio look like a crook, liar, cheat, scoundrel, and douchebag.
But none of that is a guarantee that he'd be selected.
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I don't doubt this at all, but let's be real -- ALL potential candidates should be thoroughly vetted. Rubio, if he's part of the overall mix, could well be one of 15 potential candidates. Rubio might even make the short list in which case the investigators should be digging really, really deep to find out all the skeletons in the closets -- and you'd better believe there will something there that the Dems would pounce on in order to make Rubio look like a crook, liar, cheat, scoundrel, and douchebag.
But none of that is a guarantee that he'd be selected.
I hear he short changed his gradeschool cafeteria on at least two occasions.
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I hear he short changed his gradeschool cafeteria on at least two occasions.
lol. Pretty damning evidence of that in the Yearbook, I'm sure.
Here's some faux dirt:
http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Reuters-Fabricates-Damaging-Facts-About-Marco-Rubio
And apparently having a friend and sticking by that friend creates all sorts of problems for Rubio. David Rivera, a Florida Congressman and good friend of Rubio's, was investigated by the Florida attorney general's office and while the investigation was later dropped due to lax campaign finance laws and statute of limitations having elapsed, the 172-page report that came out of it was "uncomfortable" for Rivera.
Rubio sticks by his friend.
That right there might be the only thing the Dems can come up with on Rubio. Besides your story about him short-changing in the lunch line in grade school. :-)
Eliza Gray and the New Republic (http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazine/103395/marco-rubio-david-rivera-florida?page=0,2)
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I don't doubt this at all, but let's be real -- ALL potential candidates should be thoroughly vetted. Rubio, if he's part of the overall mix, could well be one of 15 potential candidates. Rubio might even make the short list in which case the investigators should be digging really, really deep to find out all the skeletons in the closets -- and you'd better believe there will something there that the Dems would pounce on in order to make Rubio look like a crook, liar, cheat, scoundrel, and douchebag.
But none of that is a guarantee that he'd be selected.
Yeah, which I why I said it isn't set in stone and no one really knows anyhow. We will see here in a couple of weeks. I do hope he chooses someone good and legitimate.
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I like Marco Rubio he's a great guy, but he's not got enough experience on the national stage. He would be a great person in the Romney administration but I think Paul Ryan should be Romney's running mate.
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I like Marco Rubio he's a great guy, but he's not got enough experience on the national stage. He would be a great person in the Romney administration but I think Paul Ryan should be Romney's running mate.
If Rubio isn't picked to be the VP candidate, then he should stay in the senate and make his name more well known there. imo
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If Rubio isn't picked to be the VP candidate, then he should stay in the senate and make his name more well known there. imo
I would think he'd do exactly that.
But part of his appeal is that he's not (yet) one of those entrenched lobbyist-driven typical D.C. schmucks who have made a career out of sucking resources out of the American people.
I see Rubio as one of those conservative shining stars we've been desperate for, ever since we were saddled with Juan McLame back in 2008. I can see him as a presidential candidate down the road a little bit.
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I would think he'd do exactly that.
But part of his appeal is that he's not (yet) one of those entrenched lobbyist-driven typical D.C. schmucks who have made a career out of sucking resources out of the American people.
I see Rubio as one of those conservative shining stars we've been desperate for, ever since we were saddled with Juan McLame back in 2008. I can see him as a presidential candidate down the road a little bit.
Agree, I just hope we can send Ted Cruz up from TX to help him. TX Republican runoff 31 Jul.
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I like Rubio too.
Whether or not he is picked for VP, may not be as much of a question as will he accept it?
Regardless, I do think we will see him as a presidential candidate in the next 4-12 years though.
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@debk I like him allot too, and he'll probably run for president in the next 4-12 years. Rubio and Ryan would be a great ticket. I've got allot of respect for Rubio, he seems to remind me of President Reagan.
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Agree, I just hope we can send Ted Cruz up from TX to help him. TX Republican runoff 31 Jul.
Cruz is a snake who only cares about self-interest. Dewhurst might be a bureaucrat but I think he will help the GOP more
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Looks to be Rubio. Can't rule out Nikki Haley either.
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Looks to be Rubio. Can't rule out Nikki Haley either.
I hope it is Rubio. The Repubs have a bunch of great candidates for VP. Shame that one of them is not at the top of the ticket but Romney won fair and square. I think Rubio will help Romney garner more votes than any other candidate. That is my main concern. We have to get rid of the Magic Negro.
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I hope it is Rubio. The Repubs have a bunch of great candidates for VP. Shame that one of them is not at the top of the ticket but Romney won fair and square. I think Rubio will help Romney garner more votes than any other candidate. That is my main concern. We have to get rid of the Magic Negro.
I just don't think the flav of the day picks the likes of Rubio or Haley is the right move for Romney. Too many unknowns about them being so new to the national spotlight. he should pick someone the likes of Portman or Gov Kasich of Ohio. Although Portman is a relative newcomer he has experience in the House and Senate.
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What do you guys think of Scott Walker being a running mate? I bet that would make the liberals go bat crazy.
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What do you guys think of Scott Walker being a running mate? I bet that would make the liberals go bat crazy.
Scott Walker needs to stay in Wisconsin... that place needs all the help it can get. Ditto for Chris Christie, John Kasich, and every other governor in a blue state that is worth a damn.
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Scott Walker needs to stay in Wisconsin... that place needs all the help it can get. Ditto for Chris Christie, John Kasich, and every other governor in a blue state that is worth a damn.
Yeah, good points. They can do more as governors when Romney gets elected than they can as running mates. But either way you look at it. If he would chose one of them, the left would go literally bonkers. I would love to see Christy and Biden in a debate. That would be a classic.
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What do you guys think of Scott Walker being a running mate? I bet that would make the liberals go bat crazy.
Outstanding! Even better Col West.
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Long Shot................................... Jeb Bush
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Long Shot................................... Jeb Bush
Not such a long shot really since his name has been mentioned quite a bit. I hope he isn't the pick, though. The name Bush is too divisive in politics for now.
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Not such a long shot really since his name has been mentioned quite a bit. I hope he isn't the pick, though. The name Bush is too divisive in politics for now.
I agree. I think Jeb would hurt him more than he would help him.
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I just don't think the flav of the day picks the likes of Rubio or Haley is the right move for Romney. Too many unknowns about them being so new to the national spotlight. he should pick someone the likes of Portman or Gov Kasich of Ohio. Although Portman is a relative newcomer he has experience in the House and Senate.
I agree a Romney / Rubio ticket would be the least politically experienced ticket in 60 years
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I agree a Romney / Rubio ticket would be the least politically experienced ticket in 60 years
What about Obama/Biden?
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What about Obama/Biden?
Biden was elected to the senate in 1972
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Biden was elected to the senate in 1972
Really? Wow, I never knew that. That is amazing that he lasted all these years with how crazy he is.
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Really? Wow, I never knew that. That is amazing that he lasted all these years with how crazy he is.
Yeah if you combine the experience of each ticket as either a President, VP, governor, congressmen, or a political post in an administration the 6 years of combined experience Romney / Rubio have would be the lowest since Eisenhower / Nixon in 1952
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Yeah if you combine the experience of each ticket as either a President, VP, governor, congressmen, or a political post in an administration the 6 years of combined experience Romney / Rubio have would be the lowest since Eisenhower / Nixon in 1952
That is amazing. I can see now why people don't want Rubio to be his running mate.
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Long Shot................................... Jeb Bush
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Long Shot................................... Jeb Bush
Please, no more Bush's. Rubio is the best choice for VP. I would call him a breath of fresh air rather than flavor of the day. Never heard of Portman. I like Kasich but neither one of these guys can garner the votes like Rubio can.
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I agree a Romney / Rubio ticket would be the least politically experienced ticket in 60 years
Given the current anti-politician bent the electorate is on, is political experience really a plus anymore?
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Please, no more Bush's. Rubio is the best choice for VP. I would call him a breath of fresh air rather than flavor of the day. Never heard of Portman. I like Kasich but neither one of these guys can garner the votes like Rubio can.
Normally (McClown excepted), the SOP is to pick someone higher on the "bland" scale than the Presidential candidate. In Mitt's case, that is a kinda scary thought. I got my money on Portman too. He can make a meth addict drowsy.
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Given the current anti-politician bent the electorate is on, is political experience really a plus anymore?
It might be more favorable vote wise but I don't think it would be more favorable for governing the country. I realize the #1 goal right now is to defeat Obama so I'm kinda torn on the charisma v experience issue.
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Normally (McClown excepted), the SOP is to pick someone higher on the "bland" scale than the Presidential candidate. In Mitt's case, that is a kinda scary thought. I got my money on Portman too. He can make a meth addict drowsy.
Portman is my pick also. Oddly enough I saw a Hannity show where they had a pannel watch the speeches of 4 potential VP candidates (Rubio, Ryan, Christie, and Portman) surprisingly Portman got the best response from republicans and democrats.
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I listened to several You Tube Videos of Portman and I found him to be boring, uninspiring and not that good of a speaker. I find Rubio to be just the opposite plus he does not have to continually look at his notes like Portman does.
Florida is a must win state for Romney. Rubio can help him do that along with several other states. Beating Obama is the name of the game and I think Rubio can garner more votes for the ticket than any other flavor of the day candidate.
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I'd rather have Rubio for Vice President. Sure, he has little experience. People are tired of career politicians. Yes, Rubio is a Senator, but a new one. People like fresh face.
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Portman is my pick also. Oddly enough I saw a Hannity show where they had a pannel watch the speeches of 4 potential VP candidates (Rubio, Ryan, Christie, and Portman) surprisingly Portman got the best response from republicans and democrats.
Portman is not my pick. I just said he is more boring than Mitt. Re-read my post.
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Portman is not my pick. I just said he is more boring than Mitt. Re-read my post.
you said "I got my money on Portman too." and I said "Portman is my pick also" as in hes also my pick of who I think will get the VP spot not who I want to get the VP spot
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I would like to see Gov Kasich of Ohio get the VP slot. That way we have a good contender in '16 or '20 as the case may be.
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I would like to see Tom Ridge get it. But he hasn't been in the spot light since he left as director of Homeland Security. Of course I am bias, as I think he was one of the best Governors this state has ever had.
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If I could interrupt here for a sec. When we we pick a vp, I thought this person has to be top notch in leadership qualities as well as experience, if God forbid, something happened to the president.... I remember this being an issue with Sarah Palin, was she didn't have enough experience in the national political arena..
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If I could interrupt here for a sec. When we we pick a vp, I thought this person has to be top notch in leadership qualities as well as experience, if God forbid, something happened to the president.... I remember this being an issue with Sarah Palin, was she didn't have enough experience in the national political arena..
The reason most people voted for McCain was because of Palin. If he would have picked some dry stiff. He would have lost by a land slide.
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If I could interrupt here for a sec. When we we pick a vp, I thought this person has to be top notch in leadership qualities as well as experience, if God forbid, something happened to the president.... I remember this being an issue with Sarah Palin, was she didn't have enough experience in the national political arena..
The primary mission of the VP (I think this is somewhere in the Constitution) is to not make the Presidential candidate look bad. That was Palin's primary sin, all the rest was window dressing.
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If I could interrupt here for a sec. When we we pick a vp, I thought this person has to be top notch in leadership qualities as well as experience, if God forbid, something happened to the president.... I remember this being an issue with Sarah Palin, was she didn't have enough experience in the national political arena..
A person may or may not seem to have those qualities, but you never know how they will handle a crisis until it happens. President Bush didn't really seem to have those qualities, but I think he handled 9-11 quite well. OTOH, Obama was even less experienced than President Bush, and he has collapsed under the weight of the office.
Obama is incapable of being flexible in the face of failed policies and insists on continuing his marxist agenda.
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A person may or may not seem to have those qualities, but you never know how they will handle a crisis until it happens. President Bush didn't really seem to have those qualities, but I think he handled 9-11 quite well. OTOH, Obama was even less experienced than President Bush, and he has collapsed under the weight of the office.
Obama is incapable of being flexible in the face of failed policies and insists on continuing his marxist agenda.
Bush was a likable guy and a lot smarter than he put himself out to be (humble). He also shined from the quality of people he chose as his inner circle and/or cabinet positions.
Obama is a very smart guy but surrounds himself with Idiots,except for his Sec. of state. He advances very disastrous policies for a free market economy.
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Bush was a likable guy and a lot smarter than he put himself out to be (humble). He also shined from the quality of people he chose as his inner circle and/or cabinet positions.
Obama is a very smart guy but surrounds himself with Idiots,except for his Sec. of state. He advances very disastrous policies for a free market economy.
I don't buy the Obama "very smart guy" meme. That probably makes me a racist. He's an eloquent speaker when he's on script. But he has not shown me any real, deep thinking. Off script, he doesn't communicate very well.
Just my two cents.
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I don't buy the Obama "very smart guy" meme. That probably makes me a racist. He's an eloquent speaker when he's on script. But he has not shown me any real, deep thinking. Off script, he doesn't communicate very well.
Just my two cents.
Uh, I'm uh, not sure, Uh, I know, uh what, you uh mean.
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I think Obama is down right stupid.
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I don't buy the Obama "very smart guy" meme. That probably makes me a racist. He's an eloquent speaker when he's on script. But he has not shown me any real, deep thinking. Off script, he doesn't communicate very well.
Just my two cents.
Me neither. His off the cuff remarks sound dumb as a rock in many instances like the one about how many states he has visited ...57 and one to go. I would like to see his affirmative action grades in H.S. thru college and also his test score on the law exam. This horse shit about liberals being so smart is a myth, and conservative being inferior is a bunch of baloney. However, we have a bunch of conservatives that fall for this bullshit