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Title: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on May 09, 2012, 02:11:17 PM
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“I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married,” Obama told Roberts, in an interview to appear on ABC’s “Good Morning America” Thursday. Excerpts of the interview will air tonight on ABC’s “World News with Diane Sawyer

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/299497/obama-same-sex-couples-should-be-able-get-married-daniel-foster

Obama just sealed his loss this November.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Gina on May 09, 2012, 02:12:23 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/299497/obama-same-sex-couples-should-be-able-get-married-daniel-foster

Obama just sealed his loss this November.

Can you explain why?
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: NHSparky on May 09, 2012, 02:13:48 PM
Can you explain why?

Because even in uber-liberal enclaves like Commiefornuckistan, gay marriage amendments have failed every time they've been put on the ballot.

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

While most people are going to vote with their wallets in November, this is just another few points for Romney.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: thundley4 on May 09, 2012, 02:14:06 PM
Only that moron could take so many words to say " I personally support queers getting married."
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Gina on May 09, 2012, 02:15:06 PM
Ok, that is what I was thinking but I like to hear it from other's too in case I didn't think of something.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Gina on May 09, 2012, 02:15:19 PM
Only that moron could take so many words to say " I personally support queers getting married."

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: zeitgeist on May 09, 2012, 02:18:21 PM
Obama has now officially mounted a rear guard action for 2012.   :sheep:
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on May 09, 2012, 02:19:30 PM
Because even in uber-liberal enclaves like Commiefornuckistan, gay marriage amendments have failed every time they've been put on the ballot.

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

While most people are going to vote with their wallets in November, this is just another few points for Romney.

Bingo.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Eupher on May 09, 2012, 02:21:38 PM
Because even in uber-liberal enclaves like Commiefornuckistan, gay marriage amendments have failed every time they've been put on the ballot.

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

While most people are going to vote with their wallets in November, this is just another few points for Romney.

I'm just not convinced that the average Joe Schmuckitelli honestly gives a shit whether or not Bob and Dick get married. It's not an issue that directly confronts Joe. Granted, when it's on the ballot and it's time to confront that issue from a voting perspective, sure, Joe puts his thumb down.

But as a campaign issue? I dunno, though I certainly hope that Barry is hammered on it again and again and again.

I hope I'm wrong. There is going to be plenty of ugly going around during the last months of this campaign......
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: TVDOC on May 09, 2012, 02:22:33 PM
Can you explain why?

Certainly.......the USS Faggot has sailed over the horizon some time ago.  Thirty one of fifty states have overwhelmingly banned homosexual marriage........the voters have spoken on this issue, EVERY time it has been placed before them.

Sitting on the fence until his pants ripped was his best bet for the election.......he's now just pissed of millions of voters  (Christian Democrats, particularly the Catholics that he hasn't already pissed off, religious blacks, the rednecks).......he's just put a sizable hole in his campaign vessel......if it wasn't taking a hell of a lot of water before, it certainly is now.....

The pro-gay marriage bunch were never going to vote for anyone else but him anyway.......he had everything to gain by remaining "nuanced" about it.......this decision is all downside.....no gain.....this is an act of political panic......based solely on results from a state that he not only won in 2008, but needs again in November.......he must be seeing some seriously bad internal poll numbers that are telling him that even his liberal base is eroding.

Somewhere Sun Tsu is smiling......"never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake" (paraphrased).

doc
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Karin on May 09, 2012, 02:33:21 PM
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he had everything to gain by remaining "nuanced" about it
  That's it in a nutshell.  Just a bad calculation; but hey Barry, go for it. 
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: BlueStateSaint on May 09, 2012, 02:40:34 PM
he had everything to gain by remaining "nuanced" about it.......this decision is all downside.....no gain.....

Somewhere Sun Tsu is smiling......"never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake" (paraphrased).

Yup.  The black Christian churches may give ol' Barry some lip service in public, but once they go into the voting booth, they're in private.  The Romney camp would do well to continue to hammer this leading up to the election.  I think it could be worth 2-3 percentage points, at the least.  As Doc correctly observes, the pro-gay-wedding crowd was never going to vote for Romney anyway.  This is going to cause a couple more independents to get off the fence and vote for Romney, and cause some of the more business-oriented members of the black Christian community to jump ship and vote for Romney (not very likely), or just not vote in November (far more likely).
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: miskie on May 09, 2012, 03:17:25 PM
I can only guess that after the beating Obama & the Dems took yesterday, Obama decided to Hail-Mary his campaign by going hard left.

Excellent.

I assume if he is going to go down in flames, he wants the history books to remember him as a great progressive who -unfortunately- was ahead of his time.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: thundley4 on May 09, 2012, 03:19:12 PM
Yup.  The black Christian churches may give ol' Barry some lip service in public, but once they go into the voting booth, they're in private.  The Romney camp would do well to continue to hammer this leading up to the election.  I think it could be worth 2-3 percentage points, at the least.  As Doc correctly observes, the pro-gay-wedding crowd was never going to vote for Romney anyway.  This is going to cause a couple more independents to get off the fence and vote for Romney, and cause some of the more business-oriented members of the black Christian community to jump ship and vote for Romney (not very likely), or just not vote in November (far more likely).

That will only go so far.  Romney and the GOP also need to hit Obama on how much worse the blacks, along with everyone else have fared under Obama.  The unemployment for blacks is still way higher than average, and that higher unemployment leads to more crime and other problems in the black communities.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Danglars on May 09, 2012, 03:25:00 PM
Or Maybe Michelle needs to know something. Has Obie been hanging out with Scientologists?
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: ruble on May 09, 2012, 03:36:41 PM
Tingles was last seen in a wedding dress.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: beefeater on May 09, 2012, 04:09:26 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/299497/obama-same-sex-couples-should-be-able-get-married-daniel-foster

Obama just sealed his loss this November.

I doubt that it will make any difference at all. He already had the homo vote, he didn't turn white so he'll still have the black vote and he's already been forgiven for flipping on any campaign promises. It's really a safe position for him to take, he can't do anything about queer marriage anyway, it's a states issue as he said in his announcement.

He certainly hasn't changed my vote.

It's the economy stupid.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Danglars on May 09, 2012, 04:20:58 PM
I doubt that it will make any difference at all. He already had the homo vote, he didn't turn white so he'll still have the black vote and he's already been forgiven for flipping on any campaign promises. It's really a safe position for him to take, he can't do anything about queer marriage anyway, it's a states issue as he said in his announcement.

He certainly hasn't changed my vote.

It's the economy stupid.

A percentage point here, a percentage point there...it could matter in a very close election. If it costs him even 1.5% of the vote in Ohio, for example, that could mean something. I'm also dying to see him fight House Republicans on the defense budget, with him fighting for the automatic "sequestration." Independents are mostly pretty strong on defense (except, of course, for Ronulans).
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Duke Nukum on May 09, 2012, 04:25:05 PM
Distract! Distract! Distract!

If 0bama runs on his record, he loses.

This is the stench of desperate flop sweat which is probably raising the ocean levels as I type.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Kyle Ricky on May 09, 2012, 04:31:09 PM
This is just a distraction. Also, didn't Obama say in 2008 that he was against gay marriage, claiming his "Christian" faith led him to feel that way? Yet another thing the bigot lied about.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: CG6468 on May 09, 2012, 04:48:14 PM
It doesn't make any difference, anyway. It's up to each state to determine it's own destiny.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 09, 2012, 04:59:57 PM
Certainly.......the USS Faggot has sailed over the horizon some time ago.  Thirty one of fifty states have overwhelmingly banned homosexual marriage........the voters have spoken on this issue, EVERY time it has been placed before them.

Sitting on the fence until his pants ripped was his best bet for the election.......he's now just pissed of millions of voters  (Christian Democrats, particularly the Catholics that he hasn't already pissed off, religious blacks, the rednecks).......he's just put a sizable hole in his campaign vessel......if it wasn't taking a hell of a lot of water before, it certainly is now.....

The pro-gay marriage bunch were never going to vote for anyone else but him anyway.......he had everything to gain by remaining "nuanced" about it.......this decision is all downside.....no gain.....this is an act of political panic......based solely on results from a state that he not only won in 2008, but needs again in November.......he must be seeing some seriously bad internal poll numbers that are telling him that even his liberal base is eroding.

Somewhere Sun Tsu is smiling......"never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake" (paraphrased).

doc

The one thing it does do is bring a very large amount of gay money into his campaign, when it otherwise looked to be in danger of staying on the sidelines even if the gays did resignedly turn out for him.  One thing about gay households is that they do tend to have a relatively larger amount of disposable income, being as how there generally aren't any kids to raise.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: TVDOC on May 09, 2012, 05:21:41 PM
The one thing it does do is bring a very large amount of gay money into his campaign, when it otherwise looked to be in danger of staying on the sidelines even if the gays did resignedly turn out for him.  One thing about gay households is that they do tend to have a relatively larger amount of disposable income, being as how there generally aren't any kids to raise.

True, however such a tiny fragment of the population stacked up against what Citizens United unleashed will be spit in a bucket........I doubt that all that Wall Street and corporate money is going to fall into his coffers this time.  He's having difficulty raising money even at this point in the campaign.

His minions bragged about raising a billion......he'll be lucky to end up with half of that......his fundraisers have been poorly attended so far......but it's early.

doc
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Mr Mannn on May 09, 2012, 06:37:08 PM
I'm watching Obama jump through hoops just to keep his base happy. His base wants crazy stuff that no one else wants. The independents have left him, as have many middle class dems.

democrats have divided their constituency into bite size groups to pander and play against each other.  That coalition seems to be fragmenting. Will Hispanics go for Obama with his attacks on the Church? The economy is driving many illegals back to Mexico...no jobs means no fraudulent votes from them.

How will the Bible Belt react to a USS Harvey Milk? (for that matter what port will let that ship dock?)
Any traction the Trayvon shooting may have gained is lost with gangs of thugs attacking at will and not being prosecuted.

A NY Jewish congressional district voted a conservative gentile over a hand-picked liberal Jew...For the first time, I'm not convinced that the liberal Jewish vote will be there for Obama. The USSC's expected defeat of Obamacare and support of  Voter ID laws will start the summer of will screams of angst from the left.

I see nothing but a landslide defeat for Obama, even with massive fraud
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: obumazombie on May 09, 2012, 07:41:38 PM
Beastiality is the next frontier. Humans, and wookieyetis.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Lacarnut on May 09, 2012, 09:07:40 PM
Obama and the Democraps are in panic mode. Nothing seems to be working for them. So, the outrageous things that they will come up with like fags marriage will just be the norm.

Like others have stated, I do not see how this will gain him any votes. On the contrary, this will turn off Independents and some moderate Democrats.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: mrclose on May 09, 2012, 11:52:33 PM
Beastiality is the next frontier. Humans, and wookieyetis.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/oka72g.jpg)

(http://i42.tinypic.com/33xx84l.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: txradioguy on May 10, 2012, 03:29:23 AM
he had everything to gain by remaining "nuanced" about it.......this decision is all downside.....no gain.....this is an act of political panic......based solely on results from a state that he not only won in 2008, but needs again in November.......he must be seeing some seriously bad internal poll numbers that are telling him that even his liberal base is eroding.

Somewhere Sun Tsu is smiling......"never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake" (paraphrased).

doc

From what I understand it was also about the $$$$...seems a lot of his large money contributors are in the gay community and they'd been holding back donations.

But no matter how you slice it...this move smacks of desperation.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: MrsSmith on May 10, 2012, 06:44:26 AM
This is just a distraction. Also, didn't Obama say in 2008 that he was against gay marriage, claiming his "Christian" faith led him to feel that way? Yet another thing the bigot lied about.
Like anyone ever believed him?   ::)  What he's hoping is that this decision will galvanize the college and young adult groups, the same groups that put him over the top on his "hope and change" platform.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Danglars on May 10, 2012, 07:57:29 AM
Has he at least put a ring on Holder's finger? Oh those two.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: njpines on May 10, 2012, 08:10:26 AM
Has he at least put a ring on Holder's finger? Oh those two.

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Danglars on May 10, 2012, 08:48:07 AM
:lmao:

Do you think we should send them something? Like maybe 1 million Best Wishes from the Tea Party cards?


Heh, heh, heh.


But don't get me wrong, I'd at least send a toaster or cuisinart or something, too.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Kyle Ricky on May 10, 2012, 10:11:24 AM
Obama claims that this new belief comes from the bible, seeing that him and Michelle are practicing "Christians" (BS). He told ABC news it comes from the Golden Rule; Treat others the way you would want to be treated. Is this guy for real? One he is in no way a christian, two he insults me when he claims to get the reasoning for same sex marriage from the bible, especially when there is no where in the bible advocating it, and three he needs to shut his beak about things he knows nothing about.

His spiritual adviser is against him on this and his preacher friends are against him on this. Pat Robertson said today that he thinks Obama knows that he is going to lose the election and he is just trying to appease his small base. I kind of agree with him.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: obumazombie on May 10, 2012, 10:45:11 AM
We can only "hope" owebuma is beginning a run off the deep end. I for one would love to help him out achieving success in that endeavor.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: AllosaursRus on May 10, 2012, 12:32:33 PM
Ok, that is what I was thinking but I like to hear it from other's too in case I didn't think of something.

You consider yourself an "Independent", doncha? heh, heh!

From what I understand it was also about the $$$$...seems a lot of his large money contributors are in the gay community and they'd been holding back donations.

But no matter how you slice it...this move smacks of desperation.

I believe it was as much as 20%!
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 10, 2012, 12:41:29 PM
Do you think we should send them something? Like maybe 1 million Best Wishes from the Tea Party cards?


Heh, heh, heh.


But don't get me wrong, I'd at least send a toaster or cuisinart or something, too.


Get 'em a lifetime supply of condoms and a gift certificate for unlimited abortions at Planned Partnerhood.

Hey, we don't want to take noooooooo chances.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Celtic Rose on May 10, 2012, 01:08:15 PM
I think this was largely an economic decision. His far left contributors were holding back until he threw them a bone.

I think this will be a close race no matter what Obama says or does. Deep blue states will go for him pretty much no matter what.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: CG6468 on May 10, 2012, 02:41:37 PM
Received in an email.

BOLD text mine.

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Obama has not “evolved”—he has changed his position whenever his political fortunes required him to do so. Running for the Illinois state senate from a trendy area of Chicago in 1996, he was for gay marriage. “I favor legalizing same-sex marriages,” he wrote in answer to a questionnaire back then. In 2004, he was running for the U.S. Senate and needed to appeal to voters statewide. So he evolved, and favored civil unions but opposed homosexual “marriage.” In 2008, running for president, he said, “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage.” Now in 2012, facing a tough reelection campaign where he needs energized supporters of gay “marriage” and has disappointed them with his refusal to give them his support, he is for it. To paraphrase John Kerry, he was for it before he was against it before he was for it again.

When I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf            . . it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married.”

Mr. Obama actually did bare his soul unintentionally today (perhaps the Biden disease is catching) with his astonishing characterization of American fighting men and women, whom he referred to as “those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf.” Really?

Most Americans thought they were fighting for the country, not on Barack Obama’s behalf.  Slip of the tongue, to be sure, but can one think of another president who’d have made it? 

The president, when he says, “at a certain point I’ve just concluded,” appears to refer to the point where Joe Biden smoked him out, unintentionally no doubt (as are most of Biden’s actions). And it is important “for me personally” to speak, the president says; this isn’t politics, you see, but some kind of testimony, a baring of the soul.

The soldiers are fighting under his command, under his orders, to be sure, but this particular locution (fighting on my behalf) is offensive and solipsistic.  Mr. Obama has switched his position on the sanctity of marriage back and forth and has a new one again,revealing that when politics make it advisable to him and to his campaign.  Whether this is the end or he will “evolve” some more is anyone’s guess.

But let’s leave our soldiers out of this. They aren’t fighting for Mr. Obama and his campaign, and no one sent them out to risk their lives to win same sex “marriage.”
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: zeitgeist on May 10, 2012, 02:49:27 PM

Quote
Quote from: Danglars on Today at 04:57:29 am

Has he at least put a ring on Holder's finger? Oh those two.
:lmao:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW8F_kWueLs[/youtube]

Gotta love it.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: debk on May 10, 2012, 03:19:03 PM
In the grand scheme of things....like war, an economy in the dumper, people losing their jobs. people who have lost or losing their homes, ( I did 48 reports on houses last month & have already gotten 30 this month - all but one(a PMI removal) are in trouble or already gone), Iran and N Korea messing with nuclear bombs....I personally don't give a rat's patoot if gays have a right to marry or not.

Yes I do have a a bit of an issue with them getting married in a church, but it's not MY church (don't think the Catholic Church will ever reach a point where it's allowed). I have no control over other religions, (or my own for that matter!) and last I checked, God hasn't designated me as his press secretary and given me clearance to speak for Him.

Yes, I do think they should be allowed to enter into a civil union - with a legal and binding contract/license - just as a marriage license does for heterosexual couples. Gays want all the "rights and priviledges of married heterosexual couples". Fine, let them also have all the fighting, arguing, attorney fees out the wahzoo, that divorces cost heterosexuals. Why should they be allowed to just walk away with a pfffft! and the relationship be over with no consequences (financial, emotional, possibly responsibility toward child/children)???

Did anyone really believe, that someone as far left as Obama is, would not be FOR gay marriage? Please...he just came out and made this "oh so heartfelt explanation" on major network television that he was for it. Excuse me while I go  :puke: :puke: 

His major announcement is going to do only a couple of things....get gays who may or may not be contributing to his 'war chest", to give and give big.

It will get the Hollywood elite with gobs of money, to give more to Mr Wonderful who came out in support of all their gay fellow actors/others in the business, so that they can brag to all their fellow actors/others in the business...that they gave to the most progressive thinking president in the history of democratic freedom.  ::)

But most of all....this is going to keep the talking heads, mainstream news programs, etc, talking about the whole subject of gay marriage for the next week or so, INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANT STUFF THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THAN WHETHER OR NOT TOM AND DICK CAN GET LEGALLY HITCHED!!!!

Do you really care that much what goes on in someone else's bedroom?

Or do you care about whether or not you have a job tomorrow, so you can pay your bills, and that your children have a future in this country, instead of no jobs, being bombed out by Iran/N Korea, and living under some sort of dictator?
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Kyle Ricky on May 10, 2012, 03:30:34 PM
Mitt Romney said on Covuto today that he is against gay marriage, but he has no problem with gays adopting (I'm not sure if he means gay couple or not). I'm with him on gay marriage, but gays adopting doesn't sit right with me.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: obumazombie on May 10, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
There is a much higher incidence of child molestation amongst the homosexual community. The idea of gay adoption is one that would expose children to unwarranted additional risks of that type of depravity.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 10, 2012, 03:41:36 PM
Mitt Romney said on Covuto today that he is against gay marriage, but he has no problem with gays adopting (I'm not sure if he means gay couple or not). I'm with him on gay marriage, but gays adopting doesn't sit right with me.

I think the first gay adoption was way back in the 70's when a judge in Florida ruled it unconstitutional to forbid it. I didn't like gay adoption then and I still don't like it.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Eupher on May 10, 2012, 04:28:08 PM
There is a much higher incidence of child molestation amongst the homosexual community. The idea of gay adoption is one that would expose children to unwarranted additional risks of that type of depravity.

Just as importantly in my view is the idea that kids living in a homo household are exposed to -- that homosexuality is a NORMAL behavior when it's everything BUT normal.

Even in a gay household that does not molest children and is supportive and caring, kids get the idea that two dudes swapping spit is an acceptable practice.

What two adult homos do in their own home is their own business, but it puts the kid in an extremely awkward position trying to make sense out of the fact he's got two daddies. Poor kid is already confused about life, about his own sexuality and about life in general. Why make it doubly or triply difficult?

Putting kids in that kind of situation is a special kind of abuse that the homo world doesn't even come close to acknowledging.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Kyle Ricky on May 10, 2012, 04:31:39 PM
Just as importantly in my view is the idea that kids living in a homo household are exposed to -- that homosexuality is a NORMAL behavior when it's everything BUT normal.

Even in a gay household that does not molest children and is supportive and caring, kids get the idea that two dudes swapping spit is an acceptable practice.

What two adult homos do in their own home is their own business, but it puts the kid in an extremely awkward position trying to make sense out of the fact he's got two daddies. Poor kid is already confused about life, about his own sexuality and about life in general. Why make it doubly or triply difficult?

Putting kids in that kind of situation is a special kind of abuse that the homo world doesn't even come close to acknowledging.

My thoughts exactly ^5
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: sybilll on May 10, 2012, 06:40:14 PM
This may be anecdotal, but a conservative Christian black woman is again running against Steve Cohen here.  I campaigned for her and will again.  Anyway, she was doing door to door in my neighborhood yesterday, and stopped at my house.  When she recognized me, she literally jumped up and down about the news that Obama had embraced same-sex marriage.  She said amongst her church congregation this will most assuredly keep voters at home, admittedly in small numbers, but when you add this to all of the other groups or occupations he has pissed off, this may have sealed the deal.  She has a point.  He has pissed off seniors (no COLA for 2 years, cuts to Medicare), the oil business (moratoriums), Catholics, bankers, coal industry, farmers, etc. etc. etc. 
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Lacarnut on May 11, 2012, 02:05:52 AM
Repubs should run ads that Obama supports Gay Marriage and that Gays are struggling like Martin L. King did in the Civil Rights Movement. The pussiefied Repubs won't do it cause they might offend someone.

The queers shit in their britches when they tried that in CA; all the black I worked with were opposed to that association.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Wineslob on May 11, 2012, 09:16:58 AM
Can you explain why?

As sparky pointed out, here we defeated the Gay marriage push by 61% of the vote. But, of course, the Ghays found a Ultra Lib Judge to overturn the will of the people.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Gina on May 16, 2012, 03:24:02 PM
This may be anecdotal, but a conservative Christian black woman is again running against Steve Cohen here.  I campaigned for her and will again.  Anyway, she was doing door to door in my neighborhood yesterday, and stopped at my house.  When she recognized me, she literally jumped up and down about the news that Obama had embraced same-sex marriage.  She said amongst her church congregation this will most assuredly keep voters at home, admittedly in small numbers, but when you add this to all of the other groups or occupations he has pissed off, this may have sealed the deal.  She has a point.  He has pissed off seniors (no COLA for 2 years, cuts to Medicare), the oil business (moratoriums), Catholics, bankers, coal industry, farmers, etc. etc. etc. 

I can't stand Steve Cohen.  He is an asshole.  In fact back in the days when he was pushing the lottery he put out that he wanted people to call his office and let him know what they thought.  I thought the lottery was a cool idea and called and left a message.  He called back but it went to voicemail.  So he left this message about how he was happy that I called blah blah blah and then hung up or so he thought.  Turns out my voicemail recorded this whole convo about how the voters were assholes and him and some female were laughing about it.  Guess what I did?  I turned the recording over to my local talk radio station and they busted him.  A few days later they called for me and him to faceoff.  The radio host asked "what do you think after hearing Mr. Cohen disparage the voters" to which I replied "Well we are his employer and if my employee called me an asshole I would fire them".  Of course the POS didn't resign or apologize.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: obumazombie on May 16, 2012, 08:36:14 PM
^That's beautiful Gina. The only thing that would be more beautiful is if you could have ousted him with no severance, retirement or any other compensation.
edited to add second sentence.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Gina on May 17, 2012, 08:32:07 AM
^That's beautiful Gina. The only thing that would be more beautiful is if you could have ousted him with no severance, retirement or any other compensation.
edited to add second sentence.

Thanks, I was actually scared for a while that I might be knocked off, for realz
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: sybilll on May 18, 2012, 02:15:42 AM
I can't stand Steve Cohen.  He is an asshole.  In fact back in the days when he was pushing the lottery he put out that he wanted people to call his office and let him know what they thought.  I thought the lottery was a cool idea and called and left a message.  He called back but it went to voicemail.  So he left this message about how he was happy that I called blah blah blah and then hung up or so he thought.  Turns out my voicemail recorded this whole convo about how the voters were assholes and him and some female were laughing about it.  Guess what I did?  I turned the recording over to my local talk radio station and they busted him.  A few days later they called for me and him to faceoff.  The radio host asked "what do you think after hearing Mr. Cohen disparage the voters" to which I replied "Well we are his employer and if my employee called me an asshole I would fire them".  Of course the POS didn't resign or apologize.
Gina, I can't wait to hear the local names associated with this story.  WTG girl. 
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: indago on May 19, 2012, 06:33:37 AM
Obama just sealed his loss this November.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2AYJe7Kf3y4/TYef2AADvQI/AAAAAAAACnQ/1aTwDK_FtYM/superobama0-neilima.jpg)

LOOK!

UP IN THE SKY...

IT'S A BIRD...

IT'S A PLANE...

NO, IT'S SUPERFAG
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: indago on May 19, 2012, 06:36:39 AM
URBAN RADIO CALLERS SLAM OBAMA OVER GAY MARRIAGE SUPPORT

http://nation.foxnews.com/gay-marriage/2012/05/15/urban-radio-callers-slam-obama-over-gay-marriage-support

CALLER ANTHONY: "a male supposed to marry a female."
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Eupher on May 19, 2012, 07:33:24 AM

blah, blah, blah...


Are you aware it's generally good form and courteous to introduce yourself to the forum? There is an entire forum set up for that purpose. I'm sure if you actually dig around a little, you'll find it.

Just post a thread introducing yourself. You need not tell your life story - just a few words to say hello.

Right now, you're sitting at 11 posts and you've merely waltzed in and started spreading stories, challenged other members, and otherwise have illustrated a less-than-optimal behavior pattern.

Just sayin'....
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: CG6468 on May 19, 2012, 08:02:52 AM
Seems like there's the stench of a troll in the air.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Kyle Ricky on May 19, 2012, 08:46:15 AM
Bill Clinton came out and said that he agrees with Obama. I also heard that Chris Matthews called obama and congratulated him when he announced it (Could it be that Matthews is gay?). Now all the MSNBC viewers can get that shiver up their leg as well.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: obumazombie on May 19, 2012, 01:07:57 PM
Are you aware it's generally good form and courteous to introduce yourself to the forum? There is an entire forum set up for that purpose. I'm sure if you actually dig around a little, you'll find it.

Just post a thread introducing yourself. You need not tell your life story - just a few words to say hello.

Right now, you're sitting at 11 posts and you've merely waltzed in and started spreading stories, challenged other members, and otherwise have illustrated a less-than-optimal behavior pattern.

Just sayin'....

He can't say he wasn't advised. I have as well in other threads.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Eupher on May 19, 2012, 09:39:45 PM
He can't say he wasn't advised. I have as well in other threads.

Yeah, I saw it. Just want to use a slightly larger brick to get his attention. Maybe it takes a cinder block.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: obumazombie on May 19, 2012, 10:14:21 PM
Yeah, I saw it. Just want to use a slightly larger brick to get his attention. Maybe it takes a cinder block.
Not the old "Reginald Denny" brick ?
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: indago on May 20, 2012, 12:36:51 AM
He can't say he wasn't advised. I have as well in other threads.

Yes, I finally found the "Introductions" section.  It looks like The Inquisition:

How do you stand on fiscal issues?

How do you stand on social issues?

How do you stand on military issues?


I'm not into INQUISITION.

Eupher:  "Right now, you're sitting at 11 posts and you've merely waltzed in and started spreading stories, challenged other members, and otherwise have illustrated a less-than-optimal behavior pattern."

I have responded to a few postings, no different than what I have done on many other political message boards.  Over the years I have found that this is what message boards are for: to express opinions; respond to other postings; etc.  Your desire that I should comply with your wishes doesn't comport with free expression in our society.  And tickling your animosity delights me no end.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: obumazombie on May 20, 2012, 02:42:21 AM
Yes, I finally found the "Introductions" section.  It looks like The Inquisition:

How do you stand on fiscal issues?

How do you stand on social issues?

How do you stand on military issues?


I'm not into INQUISITION.

Eupher:  "Right now, you're sitting at 11 posts and you've merely waltzed in and started spreading stories, challenged other members, and otherwise have illustrated a less-than-optimal behavior pattern."

I have responded to a few postings, no different than what I have done on many other political message boards.  Over the years I have found that this is what message boards are for: to express opinions; respond to other postings; etc.  Your desire that I should comply with your wishes doesn't comport with free expression in our society.  And tickling your animosity delights me no end.
I'm not aware an intro is mandatory, but it is quite polite, in this forum to introduce yourself. No one is going to be contemptuous of you opinions. This forum has wide latitude for all kinds of political and other views, but it's not a free for all. You don't have complete freedom of expression, nor should you unless you own the site, or maybe are the biggest contributor. We could very easily disagree in an agreeable fashion. But from what it seems you just want to be disagreeable. If you add dishonest to it, you won't be long for this forum.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: indago on May 20, 2012, 07:12:32 AM
I'm not aware an intro is mandatory, but it is quite polite, in this forum to introduce yourself. No one is going to be contemptuous of you opinions. This forum has wide latitude for all kinds of political and other views, but it's not a free for all. You don't have complete freedom of expression, nor should you unless you own the site, or maybe are the biggest contributor. We could very easily disagree in an agreeable fashion. But from what it seems you just want to be disagreeable. If you add dishonest to it, you won't be long for this forum.

...and life goes on...
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Eupher on May 20, 2012, 07:41:06 AM
Yes, I finally found the "Introductions" section.  It looks like The Inquisition:

How do you stand on fiscal issues?

How do you stand on social issues?

How do you stand on military issues?


I'm not into INQUISITION.

Eupher:  "Right now, you're sitting at 11 posts and you've merely waltzed in and started spreading stories, challenged other members, and otherwise have illustrated a less-than-optimal behavior pattern."

I have responded to a few postings, no different than what I have done on many other political message boards.  Over the years I have found that this is what message boards are for: to express opinions; respond to other postings; etc.  Your desire that I should comply with your wishes doesn't comport with free expression in our society.  And tickling your animosity delights me no end.

Ah, got it.

You want to be an asshole. Gotcha.

Oddly enough, I think we have room for yet another asshole.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: NHSparky on May 20, 2012, 08:41:32 AM
I have responded to a few postings, no different than what I have done on many other political message boards.  Over the years I have found that this is what message boards are for: to express opinions; respond to other postings; etc.  Your desire that I should comply with your wishes doesn't comport with free expression in our society.  And tickling your animosity delights me no end.

We're a bit different around here, noob.  Not so big that you can come in anonymously like FR or elsewhere, but not so small and/or insecure that we'll drop the ban hammer on you for disagreeing with the hive mind like they do over on Kos (your former home, I take it?) and DU.

But either way, we don't take kindly to people who just come in and start shitting on the carpet, then pointing out the mess.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 20, 2012, 10:47:31 AM
‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’  Able being the operative word...yes they should be "able" to get married otherwise they'd be marrying dead bodies and such. ....and a VD (STD) test used to be a requirement for a marriage license.

The question and statement should be, "Should same sex couples be allowed to get married?"
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Lacarnut on May 20, 2012, 10:55:07 AM
I wonder when or if the Congressional Black Caucus will endorse queers marrying queers. I doubt it cause black folks don't like that crap. Plus, it could wind up being political suicide come reelection time.   
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: CG6468 on May 20, 2012, 10:58:36 AM
We're a bit different around here, noob.  Not so big that you can come in anonymously like FR or elsewhere, but not so small and/or insecure that we'll drop the ban hammer on you for disagreeing with the hive mind like they do over on Kos (your former home, I take it?) and DU.

But either way, we don't take kindly to people who just come in and start shitting on the carpet, then pointing out the mess.

He/she/it doesn't care, Sparks.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Kyle Ricky on May 20, 2012, 11:26:34 AM
I wonder when or if the Congressional Black Caucus will endorse queers marrying queers. I doubt it cause black folks don't like that crap. Plus, it could wind up being political suicide come reelection time.   

Yeah it would be suicide, which is why I am wondering what they will do now that the NAACP endorsed same sex marriage.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Lacarnut on May 20, 2012, 10:11:06 PM
Yeah it would be suicide, which is why I am wondering what they will do now that the NAACP endorsed same sex marriage.

That could have some legs when the current crop of sprockets go up for reelection.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Kyle Ricky on May 20, 2012, 11:36:53 PM
That could have some legs when the current crop of sprockets go up for reelection.

Or it could pull the legs out from underneath them.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Lacarnut on May 21, 2012, 12:40:01 AM
Or it could pull the legs out from underneath them.

That is what I am thinking. Challengers are fools if they do not use that issue. Would that not be a kick in the ass if a bunch of the old dogs got defeated.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Kyle Ricky on May 21, 2012, 07:10:38 AM
That is what I am thinking. Challengers are fools if they do not use that issue. Would that not be a kick in the ass if a bunch of the old dogs got defeated.

Yes, it would be. I look for a lot of Dems to lose their seats this election as it is. So it should be sweet.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: wasp69 on May 21, 2012, 10:04:26 AM
Yes, I finally found the "Introductions" section.  It looks like The Inquisition:

How do you stand on fiscal issues?

How do you stand on social issues?

How do you stand on military issues?


I'm not into INQUISITION.

Have you found the door?
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: obumazombie on May 21, 2012, 11:22:48 AM
Not only that, but the inquisition can be fun. Look what Mel Brooks did with it.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Eupher on May 21, 2012, 12:18:05 PM
Not only that, but the inquisition can be fun. Look what Mel Brooks did with it.

Monty Python as well.
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Kyle Ricky on May 21, 2012, 12:27:01 PM
Not only that, but the inquisition can be fun. Look what Mel Brooks did with it.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqgZnvfJ9Jg[/youtube]
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: txradioguy on May 22, 2012, 01:26:37 AM
Yes, I finally found the "Introductions" section.  It looks like The Inquisition:

How do you stand on fiscal issues?

How do you stand on social issues?

How do you stand on military issues?


I'm not into INQUISITION.

Eupher:  "Right now, you're sitting at 11 posts and you've merely waltzed in and started spreading stories, challenged other members, and otherwise have illustrated a less-than-optimal behavior pattern."

I have responded to a few postings, no different than what I have done on many other political message boards.  Over the years I have found that this is what message boards are for: to express opinions; respond to other postings; etc.  Your desire that I should comply with your wishes doesn't comport with free expression in our society.  And tickling your animosity delights me no end.

So how do you stand on those issues?
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: Eupher on May 22, 2012, 09:36:39 AM
So how do you stand on those issues?

I'm not sure he's in a position to answer right now. He's arguing with Sparky over direct taxation by the feds on us. Oh, and the States too.   :-)

And he's probably looking for a more specific question. Anything high level or open-ended looks like an "Inquisition" to him, evidently.  :rotf:
Title: Re: Obama: ‘Same sex couples should be able to get married’
Post by: CG6468 on May 22, 2012, 09:54:15 AM
Seems like there's the stench of a troll in the air.

This troll hijacks every thread. Can't someone color him/her/it dead?