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Title: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Karin on January 17, 2012, 03:59:04 PM
I posted this somewhere in the DUmpster, and Frank answered thus:
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I was able to cut waaay back by substituting vaporing (water vapor w/nicotine & flavor added).  It's awesome, especially playing cards and any other time you're concentrating (and can tend to chainsmoke).
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.  Wait a minute.  

I haven't heard about that remedy.  Do you have any details?

To which I replied that I'd meet him in the Lounge.  After NY state made cigs $10/pack, I knew something had to change.  I wasn't ready to quit.  I saw an ad for the Blue e-cig on the net.  I was excited to try it, and bought one.  It was underwhelming, just didn't do it for substitution.  It was weak, and decided on its own when you'd had enough.  Don't tell me what to do!   :lmao:   Then I found this forum:

E-Cigarette Forum (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/)

These people are very enthusiastic, and very knowledgable.  Kind to noobies.  They have tickers in their sig lines, saying "I have saved $2,535 by vaping."   So, in reading and asking around, I settled on a new device, called the eGo Joye, it seemed very popular.  This one did the trick in substituting, because you get a nice plume of vapor, a very good flavor.  You breathe something in, breathe out a plume of smoke, and get your nic fix in.  

Here is what it looks like:

(http://static.zoovy.com/img/cellphoneslord/W300-H300-Bffffff/E/ego_7.jpg)

It's held like a cigar, rather than a cigarette.  You push a small button while breathing in.

A starter kit can be purchased here

Value Vapor dot com (http://www.valuevapor.com/VV/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10&products_id=202)  for $45.   (This site has best prices and they are FAST in shipping.)

The forum mentioned above makes everything sound a bit confusing, but this device is very easy to use, and to figure out.  There's only 3 pieces.  Battery (bottom part), atomizer (middle part), cartridge (top part) into which you drip liquid of your choosing and nicotine strength (4 to 7 drops).  I use whiskey flavor.  A fourth part is a cover for the middle, and smooths everything out.  

You charge the battery, screw everything together, push the button, and breathe in.  There you go.  Vial of liquid costs $5 or so, and lasts a pack-a-day smoker about 2 weeks.  You drip more in when it seems dry, say, 3 cigs worth of puffing.  Atomizers, replace every 3-4 weeks, at $6 each or so.  

Expense:  $15-20 per month, vs. $300 in New York, CA, CT or any other liberal paradise.  No tar.  No morning hacking.  

P.S.  If anyone should order a starter kit, BE SURE to get a vial of e-liquid (100 flavors).  It really is key. 
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: longview on January 17, 2012, 07:11:54 PM
Thanks for the information.  

I have wanted to try vaporing and even bought a starter kit at a small town grocery.  The offers on the internet are overwhelming.  There is so much information on that site, too.  Seems very complex.

I'm going to try to find a flavor or two that sounds interesting, though, and give it a shot.  

The boss at work has said anyone who goes to vapor can even stay inside.  This morning it was -14.  I thought about e-cigs that first trip out. 
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: JakeStyle on January 17, 2012, 10:29:16 PM
I'm not much of a smoker, I have maybe 5-7 cigarettes a day. I hate the way it stinks up my condo, and I always worry that I am bothering the girl that lives above me, even if i smoke on my patio.  I recently bought the The VOLCANO Kit (http://www.volcanoecigs.com/v-kit.html) and have been pretty impressed.  Tastes just like a regular Marlboro but there is no smell, no ashes and no butt.  It recharges on my computer USB port in minutes and the refills are cheap compared to the price of regular cigarettes.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: longview on January 17, 2012, 10:58:42 PM
I'm not much of a smoker, I have maybe 5-7 cigarettes a day. I hate the way it stinks up my condo, and I always worry that I am bothering the girl that lives above me, even if i smoke on my patio.  I recently bought the The VOLCANO Kit (http://www.volcanoecigs.com/v-kit.html) and have been pretty impressed.  Tastes just like a regular Marlboro but there is no smell, no ashes and no butt.  It recharges on my computer USB port in minutes and the refills are cheap compared to the price of regular cigarettes.

Good info.  I'm saving that site since I like Marlboro's.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Revolution on January 17, 2012, 11:07:56 PM
Posting just because I have thought about vaping before, and want to keep this thread as a possibility to come back to.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: JakeStyle on January 17, 2012, 11:15:27 PM
Good info.  I'm saving that site since I like Marlboro's.

They don't use liquids like the other products do, instead you have to buy cartomizers, which are disposable screw on refills.  One cartomizer lasts me about 2 weeks, they go for $11.99 for a 5-pack.  I get the regular tobacco flavor full strength ones.  They are a little bit more expensive than the liquid fill e-cigs, but still dirt cheap when compared to regular cigarettes.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Karin on January 18, 2012, 07:25:45 AM
Jake, do you get a good plume of vapor with the Volcano?  Is that one push button or automatic? 

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no smell, no ashes and no butt.
  That really is a huge advantage.  You can use it anywhere in the house without disturbing others.  It doesn't get into fabrics or your hair.  There's none of the dirt associated with ashtrays and ash, there's no fire, so you can leave it to go do something, or use it reading in bed, etc.  Use it while cooking.  If you need a quick fix but are very busy, you can take a drag or two, and not waste time and money by lighting up a real one and stubbing it out. 
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: vesta111 on January 18, 2012, 09:05:38 AM
I have what is called the [fifty -one] bought it at the Mall.

Cartrages are way less expensive then a pack of cigarettes.      My Doctors not only approve of this item but encourage the smokers to use it.

Problem is the tobacco industry is not so happy with this device and when in a bar or restaurant after a meal fire it up, so to speak, may be asked to quit even though the vapor is just water vapor.

This is a nicotine delivery system that does not involve the lungs.   interesting.

The system mimics a real cigarette , a glow at the end of the divice and the water vapor mimics smoke.

It may take a few years before the bars and restaurants allow this at will all over the country.   So far I bought the system in the mall, went to the food court and after eating tried it out and was told not to do this by security that were standing not 200 feet from the seller and had 3 people trying it out.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Revolution on January 18, 2012, 11:44:46 AM
Have you heard about Libtards trying to get any form of vaping banned too though?

There's just no winning with these people... :censored:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Gina on January 18, 2012, 11:51:05 AM
I just quit smoking, that is all   :tongue:  (8/07)
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Revolution on January 18, 2012, 11:57:03 AM
Congrats. Keep it up!


And LOL @ your user title. Just noticed that, and I have never heard those two words placed together. :rotf:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Gina on January 18, 2012, 01:25:52 PM
Congrats. Keep it up!


And LOL @ your user title. Just noticed that, and I have never heard those two words placed together. :rotf:

Thanks!  I quit and it seems like I go back after around 5 years.  I have really been craving a cigarette lately.  Really bad.   :panic:  Just want that warm inhale down my throat and that buzz feeling :panic:  HELP!
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: BEG on January 18, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Thanks!  I quit and it seems like I go back after around 5 years.  I have really been craving a cigarette lately.  Really bad.   :panic:  Just want that warm inhale down my throat and that buzz feeling :panic:  HELP!

Don't do it Gina! Noooooooooooooooo!
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 18, 2012, 01:41:38 PM
Thanks! I wanted to try vaporing but had no idea if it was safe and what to use.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Revolution on January 18, 2012, 02:16:48 PM
May I use that "Nope 2012" sig as well, Ballygirl?
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Gina on January 18, 2012, 02:35:38 PM
Don't do it Gina! Noooooooooooooooo!

Yeh, you are right.  I'll find something else to suck on.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: BadCat on January 18, 2012, 02:37:06 PM
Everything you need at reasonable prices...good service too.
I have the Tornado Tank which is nice because it has an actual reservoir for the nic liquid, which beats the heck out of trying to re-saturate a piece of synthetic pillow stuffing.


They have the nic liquids in lots of flavours and strengths.  I use the "super strength" 36 mg liquid in "Tobacco" flavour.



Links removed at the request of Totally Wicked.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Maxiest on January 18, 2012, 02:46:31 PM
Yeh, you are right.  I'll find something else to suck on.

The mind wanders...

Need any ideas?  Volunteers? :lmao:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Gina on January 18, 2012, 02:48:08 PM
The mind wanders...

Need any ideas?  Volunteers? :lmao:

I have a shitload of candy canes left over from Christmas!  :hyper:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Maxiest on January 18, 2012, 02:49:31 PM
I have been meaning to try one of these new fangled devices.  I have a friends who quit smoking entirely using one.

I got caught up in the plethora of info on the interwebz and just gave up looking.  I knew the ones at the gas station couldn't be that great, and the good brand was like $99 to start.  Of course I have spent like $1000 or more on Cigs since then...  
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Gina on January 18, 2012, 02:50:50 PM
I have been meaning to try one of these new fangled devices.  I have a friends who quit smoking entirely using one.

I got caught up in the plethora of info on the interwebz and just gave up looking.  I knew the ones at the gas station couldn't be that great, and the good brand was like $99 to start.  Of course I have spent like $1000 or more on Cigs since then...  

I took Wellbutrin sr for a week and then quit cold turkey on a monday.  1st 2 days were hard then it was easy peasy after that. 
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Maxiest on January 18, 2012, 02:53:28 PM
I took Wellbutrin sr for a week and then quit cold turkey on a monday.  1st 2 days were hard then it was easy peasy after that. 

I took that and Chantix at the same time and still never completely quit.  I got down to 1 a day.  I am just in love with smoking... I have to do something soon though.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Karin on January 18, 2012, 02:57:31 PM
Badcat, that Tornado Tank looks interesting, thanks for the link.  The starter kit is only $39.99!  (Note to others, do not pay $99 for anything.)  I'm wondering, that site sells liquid that's only tobacco flavored.  Can you use any other liquid, like the Dekang stuff, or is it special to the Tornado?
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Gina on January 18, 2012, 02:57:53 PM
I took that and Chantix at the same time and still never completely quit.  I got down to 1 a day.  I am just in love with smoking... I have to do something soon though.

1 fag a day!  that's pretty good  :rimshot:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Maxiest on January 18, 2012, 03:00:51 PM
1 fag a day!  that's pretty good  :rimshot:

That's like the minimum at DU, oh and they smoke a lot of Cigs too.  (http://www.conservativecave.com/Smileys/default/rimshot.gif)
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Gina on January 18, 2012, 03:05:59 PM
That's like the minimum at DU, oh and they smoke a lot of Cigs too.  (http://www.conservativecave.com/Smileys/default/rimshot.gif)

:rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot: :rimshot:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: BEG on January 18, 2012, 03:18:12 PM
Ok, totally non-judgmental question.  What is it like to be addicted to cigarettes?  I have never even tried it although when my brother smokes and comes back in the house I can literally taste it. It makes me want to vomit. I can't understand enjoying it at all.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Gina on January 18, 2012, 03:21:31 PM
Ok, totally non-judgmental question.  What is it like to be addicted to cigarettes?  I have never even tried it although when my brother smokes and comes back in the house I can literally taste it. It makes me want to vomit. I can't understand enjoying it at all.

I don't know but this damn thread is making me want one  :stoner:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Eupher on January 18, 2012, 03:46:49 PM
I have a shitload of candy canes left over from Christmas!  :hyper:

By your own admission, you don't do sweets......

Wanna try that one again?   :whistling:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Eupher on January 18, 2012, 03:49:29 PM
Ok, totally non-judgmental question.  What is it like to be addicted to cigarettes?  I have never even tried it although when my brother smokes and comes back in the house I can literally taste it. It makes me want to vomit. I can't understand enjoying it at all.

You definitely need to "learn" how to like cigarettes. The desire to look cool, and badass, and all that juvenile shit completely overwhelms the "Shitfire, these things taste like a forest fire in my mouth."

On the other hand, there ain't nothin' quite like the taste of a cigarette after a meal. Or with a beer. Or after sex. Or when getting up in the morning.

It's a slippery slope and goes downhill real fast.  :whatever:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Chris_ on January 18, 2012, 03:56:29 PM
Or that great feeling of waking up and feeling like you've inhaled a cactus.

Mmmm, smooth.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Revolution on January 18, 2012, 04:12:36 PM
Ok, totally non-judgmental question.  What is it like to be addicted to cigarettes?  I have never even tried it although when my brother smokes and comes back in the house I can literally taste it. It makes me want to vomit. I can't understand enjoying it at all.

Alright, most women like to shop, right? Imagine the feeling of wanting to go shopping one day x 1,000,000,000. Especially if one hasn't had one for a fair bit. I personally get the shakes, can't think straight, get a queasy stomach, and get very irritable. It's a horrible feeling, and I wish I never started. However, you asked for an honest answer. There you have it.

Also, nobody really LIKES the flavor of inhaling a smoke, I don't think. They may like the additive flavors somewhat, but not the orininal, let's say full flavor Marlboro. It's not really an aquired taste. It's basically the same thing as why some shoot whiskey. They don't particularly care for the straight whiskey. They just like the after effects.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: franksolich on January 18, 2012, 04:30:29 PM
I posted this somewhere in the DUmpster, and Frank answered thus:

Alas, madam, I was kind of disappointed about this.

I was envisioning using a real vaporizer, one of those things one puts on the floor that shoots out steam when one has a cold.

I was hoping it was something along that line; that one put some sort of nicotine mixture where one usually puts a daub of Vicks Vapo-Rub.

I have no idea if this would affect the cats too, but decided to wait first to see what this was.

I guess I'll just have to stick with the awkward old-fashioned method.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: JakeStyle on January 18, 2012, 04:37:46 PM
Jake, do you get a good plume of vapor with the Volcano?  Is that one push button or automatic? 
  That really is a huge advantage.  You can use it anywhere in the house without disturbing others.  It doesn't get into fabrics or your hair.  There's none of the dirt associated with ashtrays and ash, there's no fire, so you can leave it to go do something, or use it reading in bed, etc.  Use it while cooking.  If you need a quick fix but are very busy, you can take a drag or two, and not waste time and money by lighting up a real one and stubbing it out. 

It's automatic, no button and yes I think it's pretty good.  I haven't tried any other brand so I have nothing to compare it to but I like it.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Gina on January 18, 2012, 05:55:34 PM
By your own admission, you don't do sweets......

Wanna try that one again?   :whistling:

They were on the tree.....I could dip them in salt :hyper:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: BadCat on January 18, 2012, 05:58:19 PM
Badcat, that Tornado Tank looks interesting, thanks for the link.  The starter kit is only $39.99!  (Note to others, do not pay $99 for anything.)  I'm wondering, that site sells liquid that's only tobacco flavored.  Can you use any other liquid, like the Dekang stuff, or is it special to the Tornado?

You can use any liquid you like.
My wife smokes menthols, so in her Tornado, she mixes tobacco and spearmint liquids together.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 18, 2012, 06:30:28 PM
May I use that "Nope 2012" sig as well, Ballygirl?

Of course! here are a few other new ones you're free to take also:

(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/RepublicanandProud/debtocrats.jpg)

(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/RepublicanandProud/comeonbaby.jpg)

(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/RepublicanandProud/dictator.jpg)

Here's a really nice 1 I stole from Scott Baio on Twitter:

(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/RepublicanandProud/Presidents.jpg)

Oh, here's 1 from the 2010 Mid-Terms:

(http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj140/RepublicanandProud/November.jpg)

Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Odin's Hand on January 18, 2012, 06:39:10 PM
It's basically the same thing as why some shoot whiskey. They don't particularly care for the straight whiskey. They just like the after effects.

 :confused:

I must be the exception...
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: longview on January 18, 2012, 07:34:27 PM
Physiologically, smoking tobacco is near to being the perfect drug.  The nicotine attaches to available receptors.  Tired?  The nicotine will 'wake' you up.  Nervous/anxious?  Nicotine will attach to the receptors that make you feel calmer.  There are more ways that it interacts with our bodies based on what we need, but you get the idea.

Really complicates the quitting process, but as many have proven - it is possible.

Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: CG6468 on January 18, 2012, 10:32:01 PM
In the ays of yore, people used to get the vapors. But I think that's a whole different thing.  :???:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: mamacags on January 19, 2012, 06:52:54 AM
I loved smoking.  Even now 13 years after quitting it calls to me constantly.  I know if I smoke 1 I will be at a pack a day in a week.  It is like a shitty little demon inside your head that promises you that all of your ills will be taken care of the moment you light another one up.  It is so freaking stupid though.  Who in their right mind would take a bunch of weeds and chemicals, grind them up , put them in a flamable tpaper tube, set the tube on fire and then purposely inhale the smoking fumes?  It makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Maxiest on January 19, 2012, 08:10:36 AM
Ok, totally non-judgmental question.  What is it like to be addicted to cigarettes?  I have never even tried it although when my brother smokes and comes back in the house I can literally taste it. It makes me want to vomit. I can't understand enjoying it at all.

It started for me as it did a lot of people...  Trying to look cool in High School.  Then it just becomes a habit.  Now I look forward to it, especially after a meal, after waking up, driving, and sex.  I actually look forward to it, I love the taste, love the feeling, love it all.  I will however say I can't stand the smell and even though I am a smoker if I haven't smoked in a few hours and someone that just smoke walks near me the smell is horrendous.  I know I need to quit and I have a few times before and will again but for now I am to addicted.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Gina on January 19, 2012, 09:16:12 AM
It started for me as it did a lot of people...  Trying to look cool in High School.  Then it just becomes a habit.  Now I look forward to it, especially after a meal, after waking up, driving, and sex.  I actually look forward to it, I love the taste, love the feeling, love it all.  I will however say I can't stand the smell and even though I am a smoker if I haven't smoked in a few hours and someone that just smoke walks near me the smell is horrendous.  I know I need to quit and I have a few times before and will again but for now I am to addicted.

Word.  I have seen the finest looking man before but when I got close to him, he stunk so bad that it totally was a turnoff.  I have walked through a cloud of smoke (people hanging out in front of stores) and I can smell the smoke hours later in my hair.  I never realized how bad it made one stink until I quit.  It's really awful.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Maxiest on January 19, 2012, 09:21:31 AM
Word.  I have seen the finest looking man before but when I got close to him, he stunk so bad that it totally was a turnoff.  I have walked through a cloud of smoke (people hanging out in front of stores) and I can smell the smoke hours later in my hair.  I never realized how bad it made one stink until I quit.  It's really awful.

You saw me somewhere?  :rotf:

Yeah, even as I smoker I realize how bad it smells.  I may soon enough turn to an e-cig.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Karin on January 19, 2012, 04:01:51 PM
If the smell is offensive to you, you really should try this.  There is no smell.  No dirt.  The prices have come way way down in the last couple years, and they keep improving the product.  I would try Badcat's Tornado and gamble the $40. 

Frank, not sure why you pictured that.   :???: :lmao:  You can't flood your house with nicotine vapor, silly!  You need to breathe it in directly.  The cats don't need that stuff. 
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: franksolich on January 19, 2012, 04:38:45 PM
Frank, not sure why you pictured that.   :???: :lmao:  You can't flood your house with nicotine vapor, silly!

No. 

Seriously.

I was hoping that was what it involved.

Alas, the hopes were dashed.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Maxiest on January 19, 2012, 06:27:19 PM
No. 

Seriously.

I was hoping that was what it involved.

Alas, the hopes were dashed.

That would be awesome!!!  I can see why his hopes were high.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 20, 2012, 10:38:13 AM
Frank, not sure why you pictured that.   :???: :lmao:  You can't flood your house with nicotine vapor, silly!  You need to breathe it in directly.  The cats don't need that stuff.

The cats need catnip vapor.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 24, 2012, 11:34:36 PM
I placed an order.

I was going to order the Volcano but I really wanted to try something 1st before putting out a lot of money, I googled and came up with this brand, what I like about it is you can order a 3 pack, no charging, and each e-cigarette is equivalent to 2 packs.

http://www.v2cigs.com/categories/V2-DISPOSABLES-/
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Maxiest on January 25, 2012, 09:18:56 AM
Since this discussion I have been something a BLU Disposable that I purchased at Walgreen's.  It's ok, I will probably order one of the nicer ones from the website you just ordered from in a week.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Alpha Mare on January 25, 2012, 01:18:21 PM
I just ordered the Volcano express starter kit.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 25, 2012, 06:22:12 PM
I just ordered the Volcano express starter kit.

Well darn, I didn't see the starter kit at Volcano, what flavor did you order? let us know what you think please and I'll do the same.

Maxiest, what is the Blu like?
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 25, 2012, 06:24:34 PM
The reviews seem to be pretty good on the Blu Maxiest.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Chris_ on January 25, 2012, 06:28:19 PM
Anything has got to beat spending $6 a pack. 

I smoke socially (ie. not at all) and still cringe whenever I buy a pack.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 25, 2012, 07:02:32 PM
Anything has got to beat spending $6 a pack. 

I smoke socially (ie. not at all) and still cringe whenever I buy a pack.

$6 a pack? you're talking $7.49-$10 or more per pack in NY/NJ.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Chris_ on January 25, 2012, 07:04:17 PM
$6 a pack? you're talking $7.49-$10 or more per pack in NY/NJ.
A pack of Marlboro is nearly $7 with taxes... $6 and some change.

The price of beer has gone up as well but not nearly as much.  If they tried that tax-to-death shit with Bud Light around here, they'd have a riot on their hands.  I can't imagine handing out cash like that every day for cigarettes.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Odin's Hand on January 25, 2012, 07:05:54 PM
Skoal is cheaper.  :)
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: thundley4 on January 25, 2012, 07:21:46 PM
$6 a pack? you're talking $7.49-$10 or more per pack in NY/NJ.

$53.07 tax included per carton here , which is the way I buy them since both of us smoke.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Chris_ on January 25, 2012, 07:24:01 PM
$53.07 tax included per carton here , which is the way I buy them since both of us smoke.
That's about what I spend on beer in a month.  How long does a carton last?
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 25, 2012, 07:24:55 PM
A pack of Marlboro is nearly $7 with taxes... $6 and some change.

The price of beer has gone up as well but not nearly as much.  If they tried that tax-to-death shit with Bud Light around here, they'd have a riot on their hands.  I can't imagine handing out cash like that every day for cigarettes.

Beer prices are pretty reasonable around here, the Politicians are afraid to raise taxes on it because they know they'll have a revolt.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Odin's Hand on January 25, 2012, 07:25:36 PM
The last I saw, about a month ago, premium cigs at the Indian smokestores were $3.50 a pack.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Chris_ on January 25, 2012, 07:26:58 PM
The last I saw, about a month ago, premium cigs at the Indian smokestores were $3.50 a pack.
Ain't no Injuns around here unless you want to drive to Tunica.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 25, 2012, 07:27:22 PM
$53.07 tax included per carton here , which is the way I buy them since both of us smoke.

Marlboro's $77 a carton, L&M $64 a carton.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Chris_ on January 25, 2012, 07:27:54 PM
Marlboro's $77 a carton, L&M $64 a carton.
Holy crap.  That's more than my electric bill.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 25, 2012, 07:28:40 PM
The last I saw, about a month ago, premium cigs at the Indian smokestores were $3.50 a pack.

We were actually ordering them from the Indian Reservation for a few years, until Congress passed that law.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 25, 2012, 07:30:06 PM
Holy crap.  That's more than my electric bill.

And I have to buy for both my husband and I. If we're able to switch to the E-Cigs? we'd save over $400 a month.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Chris_ on January 25, 2012, 07:32:26 PM
And I have to buy for both my husband and I. If we're able to switch to the E-Cigs? we'd save over $400 a month.
I would do it in a heartbeat.

It would probably make a good gift for somebody.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 25, 2012, 07:37:26 PM
I would do it in a heartbeat.

It would probably make a good gift for somebody.

We're both willing to try it, we've talked about quitting for awhile now just didn't know how.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: thundley4 on January 25, 2012, 07:39:25 PM
That's about what I spend on beer in a month.  How long does a carton last?

We go through 3 cartons every two weeks, but a lot of cigarettes get wasted burning out in ash trays.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: thundley4 on January 25, 2012, 07:40:41 PM
We're both willing to try it, we've talked about quitting for awhile now just didn't know how.

One more tax increase and I'm going to look for something different.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 25, 2012, 07:49:13 PM
One more tax increase and I'm going to look for something different.

I ordered the trial from V2 but I think I'll go to CVS or Walgreens to try theirs.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Alpha Mare on January 25, 2012, 09:00:34 PM
Well darn, I didn't see the starter kit at Volcano, what flavor did you order? let us know what you think please and I'll do the same.

Maxiest, what is the Blu like?

Menthol light. The express kit is compatible with their line, so if I like it, I'll just add on. Beats $55 a carton that's for sure.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Maxiest on January 26, 2012, 09:33:16 AM
Well darn, I didn't see the starter kit at Volcano, what flavor did you order? let us know what you think please and I'll do the same.

Maxiest, what is the Blu like?

It's ok.  I smoke Menthol so I bought the Menthol one.  It seems to have gotten better as I have used it.  One thing I found from reading the E-Cig forums is that there just is nothing that compares to the cig taste... burning paper, tobacco and other chemicals.  And what they call Throat Hit.

I am hoping to have a little better experience with a non-disposable.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 26, 2012, 11:00:46 AM
Just got back from Walgreens and picked up the Blu Tobacco Flavor, it's interesting, I bought 1 each for me and my husband, we'll see how he likes it when he gets home.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Karin on January 26, 2012, 01:04:43 PM
We are up to $9.57/pack for the 2nd tier brand (USA Gold and the like).  Marls would be $11 or so.  Can you believe that?  I feel terrible for obviously poorer people at the convenience store, they just can't quit.  They get so angry at the clerks!

I can't seem to go 100% with vaporing, but I cut by half.  So, with discipline (put that down and pick the other up!), I can make a pack last 48 hours.  Hope to improve from there.  Seems like they're doing more and more product improvement. 

Oh did that piss me off when congress made it illegal to ship the smokes from the Indian reservations.  I was steaming mad, still am.  Assholes. 
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: franksolich on January 26, 2012, 01:09:44 PM
We are up to $9.57/pack for the 2nd tier brand (USA Gold and the like).  Marls would be $11 or so.  Can you believe that?  I feel terrible for obviously poorer people at the convenience store, they just can't quit.  They get so angry at the clerks!

It is rather disturbing.

When I was at the convenience store in town earlier this morning picking up some coffee and breakfast, my eyes wandered over to the cigarette display.  Marlboros are $6.03 a package; it seemed a quick jump from the four-something range into the six-something range.

And no, Nebraska has not raised its cigarette taxes lately; it must be 0bamainflation.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Revolution on January 26, 2012, 05:04:57 PM
It's somewhere around 7 bucks a pack here in WI. They're running a 75c off discount for my brand right now though, at least.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: thundley4 on January 26, 2012, 05:21:58 PM
Wow, it really surprises me that cigarettes are cheaper in Illinois, outside of Chicago of course, than other states.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: BEG on January 26, 2012, 05:27:36 PM
And I have to buy for both my husband and I. If we're able to switch to the E-Cigs? we'd save over $400 a month.

Holy shit, that is a friggen car payment.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: JakeStyle on January 26, 2012, 05:38:12 PM
I just ordered the Volcano express starter kit.

Thats the one I have, I hope that you like it.  I was just on their site trying to find full strength tobacco flavor cartridges but could only find light and regular.  I hope they didn't change their formula or stop selling the full strength ones, mabe they are just out of stock.

* Found 'em (http://www.volcanoecigs.com/volcano-cartos-tobacco.html?options=cart), looks like they only have them in red though.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 26, 2012, 05:59:19 PM
Well my Husband hasn't had a cigarette in about 7 hours, just carries this thing around and takes a puff every so often, I've been back and forth.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Chris_ on January 26, 2012, 05:59:41 PM
I guess that's good.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Revolution on January 26, 2012, 06:24:37 PM
Well my Husband hasn't had a cigarette in about 7 hours, just carries this thing around and takes a puff every so often, I've been back and forth.

That's where I am, only I'm riding the Nicoderm patches. Not wearing, and smoking, but I'm fack, and forth when where I really need to be is forth!  :argh:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 26, 2012, 06:35:11 PM
Rev don't be hard on yourself, it takes time, we're going to try to add this to our routine, and even if we cut back half? that's awesome.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Karin on January 27, 2012, 09:32:25 AM
One thing I did, Bally, was to mark the day and time at the top of the pack upon opening.  Then, when the pack was done, I wrote the day and time of finishing, with number of hours it lasted in a circle.  Then, I wrote this info on a pad of paper, like a little journal.  I gave myself little  :-)'s and  :('s and  :argh:'s. 

 :lmao:  That's just me, I work well with goals and metrics. 
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: BadCat on January 27, 2012, 09:43:03 AM
I now smoke an "off-brand" called "Pyramid".  They're made by L&M, and taste much like a Marlboro.
I get them for $27 a carton here in NC.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 27, 2012, 06:17:20 PM
That's a good idea Karin.

Just curious, do you guys cough when you inhale these ecigs? seems like it takes a few puffs to get used to it.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 28, 2012, 12:16:46 PM
I got the V2, I got 3 dispoables to try before I decide whether or not to order the starter kit, it's much different than the Blu, the Blu has a cheap tobacco taste to it whereas the V2 has a much smoother taste, also the Blu keeps making us cough, haven't coughed yet with the V2.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: rich_t on January 28, 2012, 02:57:40 PM
I'm not much of a smoker, I have maybe 5-7 cigarettes a day. I hate the way it stinks up my condo, and I always worry that I am bothering the girl that lives above me, even if i smoke on my patio.  I recently bought the The VOLCANO Kit (http://www.volcanoecigs.com/v-kit.html) and have been pretty impressed.  Tastes just like a regular Marlboro but there is no smell, no ashes and no butt.  It recharges on my computer USB port in minutes and the refills are cheap compared to the price of regular cigarettes.

How fat are they compared to a regular cigarette?  The last e-cig I tried was fatter than a regular cigarette and it just felt funny between my fingers.  Not only that, but the nicotine inserts tasted nothing like regular tobacco.  I smoke Marlboro Lights.  The site claims they are the exact same size, but it doesn't look like it in the picture.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 28, 2012, 06:21:40 PM
Well we ordered the Starter Kit from V2, the only thing we had to do was jack up the flavor, the light is too light and we think full flavor will be too strong, so we went along with medium. My husband is kind of liking it so far and he said he's noticed his smokers cough going, I'm still 50/50 right now, half cigarettes half vaping.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Revolution on January 29, 2012, 05:41:44 PM
Not for nothing, but I always found Lights to be nastier than full flavor. I dunno if it was just that pack of Marb lights made or if it's all Light cigarettes, but I much prefer full flavor. Loghts make me cough to beat the band when I'm smoking them.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Alpha Mare on January 31, 2012, 06:22:31 PM
I'm liking it so far. The menthol is a bit too minty, but that's ok.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Thor on January 31, 2012, 06:53:21 PM
Just FYI, my local smoke shop sells liquid nicotine in various flavors. One bottle is about $10 and so far I've refilled several five packs of cartridges. I've only used half the bottle.  It takes a little work for my particular cartridges. I have to pry off the top (I use a small awl) After that, I remove the rubbery retainer and expose the filter-like material. I drop in five or six drops of the liquid nicotine, replace the rubber retainer & replace the plastic top with the hole in it. I've probably saved anther $50 so far by doing this.

Yeah, I'm a cheap bastard.......  :bird: :tongue: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: longview on January 31, 2012, 07:37:06 PM
I just got my kit, but haven't been home for an eight hour stretch to charge the thing.  I'm off this weekend (I think), and that is top on my list of things to get done.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 31, 2012, 09:18:12 PM
We're waiting for the starter kit to be delivered, I ordered Cowboy Medium Flavor, but I also ordered a 5 pack of the cherry cartridges and they offered a 10 cartridge variety pack to try all the flavors. I spent a little over $200 for the kit and the cartridges, I refuse to buy a carton of cigarettes.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on January 31, 2012, 09:20:35 PM
Just FYI, my local smoke shop sells liquid nicotine in various flavors. One bottle is about $10 and so far I've refilled several five packs of cartridges. I've only used half the bottle.  It takes a little work for my particular cartridges. I have to pry off the top (I use a small awl) After that, I remove the rubbery retainer and expose the filter-like material. I drop in five or six drops of the liquid nicotine, replace the rubber retainer & replace the plastic top with the hole in it. I've probably saved anther $50 so far by doing this.

Yeah, I'm a cheap bastard.......  :bird: :tongue: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

V2 offers the liquid and blank cartridges to fill, no way do I want to get into that though LOL.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Karin on February 01, 2012, 09:44:53 AM
I fill mine all the time.  I like a moist, flavorful vapor.  That's where the major dollar savings come in.  Thor, those little rubber-stopped things drove me nuts, trying to get them off.  If you use a paperclip or something, *ping* off they go across the room.  I use the open-ended cartridge, that you simply drip the liquid into.  I may try (Badcat's?) tank-style one, where you don't have the "fluff." 

I do not want to use anything that says on the description "NOTE:  needs a syringe to fill."  I don't want that kind of paraphernalia lying around the house.   :panic:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on February 01, 2012, 07:05:13 PM
We got our starter kit today, the battery comes partially charged so it only took maybe 10-15 minutes to charge, we got all the cartridges we should need for the month, and I sent for cherry cartridges and the sampler pack just to give the other flavors a try and to change it up a bit. My Husband hasn't had 1 cigarette today and tomorrow I'm going to try it 1st thing in the AM instead of the usual cigarette.

Thanks so much Karin for starting this thread, about a million times we talked about ECigarettes but we didn't know where to start, and this thread gave us the kick we needed to get started.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: longview on February 01, 2012, 10:04:51 PM
Thanks so much Karin for starting this thread, about a million times we talked about ECigarettes but we didn't know where to start, and this thread gave us the kick we needed to get started.

Here!  Here!   :cheersmate:
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: rich_t on March 13, 2012, 03:49:46 PM
We got our starter kit today, the battery comes partially charged so it only took maybe 10-15 minutes to charge, we got all the cartridges we should need for the month, and I sent for cherry cartridges and the sampler pack just to give the other flavors a try and to change it up a bit. My Husband hasn't had 1 cigarette today and tomorrow I'm going to try it 1st thing in the AM instead of the usual cigarette.

Thanks so much Karin for starting this thread, about a million times we talked about ECigarettes but we didn't know where to start, and this thread gave us the kick we needed to get started.

Have you been using your starter kit?

I just ordered one today.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Ballygrl on March 13, 2012, 07:08:44 PM
Have you been using your starter kit?

I just ordered one today.

Yes, we ordered the couples kit. We're still down to about a half a pack a day, it's hard to totally quit though, have to work on the psychological addiction.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: longview on March 13, 2012, 10:06:48 PM
I'm using mine at work and most of the time at home.  I like it, but a couple times a day I still step out for a cigarette.  It was great to have on a trip last weekend.  I've noticed I take fewer puffs than I would a cigarette and reach for it fewer times.

I expect this will get me off the regular cigarettes within a couple weeks.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: rich_t on March 14, 2012, 05:35:10 AM
I'm using mine at work and most of the time at home.  I like it, but a couple times a day I still step out for a cigarette.  It was great to have on a trip last weekend.  I've noticed I take fewer puffs than I would a cigarette and reach for it fewer times.

I expect this will get me off the regular cigarettes within a couple weeks.

It is my hope that it will help me get off of the cancer sticks too.
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: vesta111 on March 14, 2012, 08:13:18 AM
I'm using mine at work and most of the time at home.  I like it, but a couple times a day I still step out for a cigarette.  It was great to have on a trip last weekend.  I've noticed I take fewer puffs than I would a cigarette and reach for it fewer times.

I expect this will get me off the regular cigarettes within a couple weeks.

Some problems with the E-cig. still to be worked out.  Not the devise but the use of them.  For some reason the bars and restaurants up here have been blind to the advertising of E-Cigs allowed at their front door.  To try out a new restaurant we have to call them, speak to the manager and ask if they allow vaporising in their establishment.  Just to make sure we get their name in case his shift is over and a different manager comes in. We double check at the front door and leave if the new manager says no.

Some airlines allow the use of the vapor and some don't, I do not know what the policy for AMTRACK is or for rental cars.  In the case of rental cars, how would they know anyway, the use leaves no smell in the air and a new car keeps its original Oder untainted with cigarette smoke.  Same with smoke free hotel rooms, we had to pay $50.00 extra to get a smoking room in DC before we got the E-C.

I would like to see a class action suit for discrimination based on the fact that this is a nicotine delivery system and people wearing the patch or chewing nicotine gum can use those devices.  Some restaurants have outside dining in the summer and still will not allow vaporising.   Ignorance of the law and fear of violating it and loosing liqueur license I guess.  Plus the hassle of showing the cops when they show up the device-----

Work places are slow to change, some make smokers leave the property on breaks and that includes the E-C users.
Fire one up in a hospital and watch the Nursing crowd dance about, you cannot do that our patient is on Oxygen,  so the patient also is smoking one!!!   Fortunately the Doctors now recommend the E-C and calm down the staff.

My device looks like a filter cigarette, same size, end lights up on inhale and has a plume of vapor coming from it.  I do not have the hassle of mixing anything, I buy a 18 cartrage box for $12.00, just pop it in and it is ready to go.

 
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Karin on March 14, 2012, 08:43:16 AM
Hope everyone is still faring well.  For some reason, I have crept slightly off-track.  I could get a regular pack to last 48 hours, so 1/2 pack a day on avg.  I am stuck on 37-41 hours.   :hammer:  Need to get back on track!
Title: Re: E-Cigs and Vaporing
Post by: Revolution on March 16, 2012, 05:24:40 PM
I just rolled my own at my local "Discount Cigarettes" place. 9 bucks for 3 packs. They're about 3/4 as good as what you would get prefessionally done in the convenience store, (Camel is my brand) but they're honestly not bad. And ya can't beat the price.  :-)