Security:
Have NONE of you flown since 9/11?
Nope. I sure haven't. I don't intend to either. The very reasons you listed above keep me in an auto going where ever I intend to go.
Hell, I can ALMOST drive to Orlando faster than I can fly due to the crap you've mentioned. Plus when I get there I have my own vehicle.
Until the airlines come back to their senses I have no desire to fly anywhere.
KC
My God, a sub sailor explaining social mores to us, :lmao: What happened to being Crude, Rude and Socially unexceptional ???
Where is the " A gentleman will leave his calling card on the container provided for such when entering a Lady's home.
Some of my favorites----A gentleman will on a rainy night hand his rubbers to the Butler.
When encountering a woman on the streets a gentleman will tip his hat to her.
A gentleman waits for a lady to offer her hand to him to be shaken or kissed.
Lady's will always wear a hat outside their home, white gloves if they leave their home property.
Servants like children must be seen and not heard. No child or servant may speak unless directly addressed.
All female who are flight attendant's must be RNS.
No members of weight watchers will be allowed to board a plane over 6 in number.
Oh Sparky, why can people dress as they wish at the mall, kids at school, men wear TShirts on planes but not woman??
Perhaps I have missed something here, ---people can carry small pets in carrier's under their seats but Jose is not allowed to bring a carrier with a few chickens in it.?? Where does it say that if one buys a extra seat they cannot bring along their pet goat.??
I see Sparky you have never been in a CHEVIA in Central America.
My God, a sub sailor explaining social mores to us, :lmao: What happened to being Crude, Rude and Socially unexceptional ???
Where is the " A gentleman will leave his calling card on the container provided for such when entering a Lady's home.
Some of my favorites----A gentleman will on a rainy night hand his rubbers to the Butler.
When encountering a woman on the streets a gentleman will tip his hat to her.
A gentleman waits for a lady to offer her hand to him to be shaken or kissed.
Lady's will always wear a hat outside their home, white gloves if they leave their home property.
Servants like children must be seen and not heard. No child or servant may speak unless directly addressed.
All female who are flight attendant's must be RNS.
No members of weight watchers will be allowed to board a plane over 6 in number.
Oh Sparky, why can people dress as they wish at the mall, kids at school, men wear TShirts on planes but not woman??
Perhaps I have missed something here, ---people can carry small pets in carrier's under their seats but Jose is not allowed to bring a carrier with a few chickens in it.?? Where does it say that if one buys a extra seat they cannot bring along their pet goat.??
I see Sparky you have never been in a CHEVIA in Central America.
Nope. I sure haven't. I don't intend to either. The very reasons you listed above keep me in an auto going where ever I intend to go.
Hell, I can ALMOST drive to Orlando faster than I can fly due to the crap you've mentioned. Plus when I get there I have my own vehicle.
Until the airlines come back to their senses I have no desire to fly anywhere.
KC
Im of the same sentiment. I love flying. Used to all the time for many years. Big and small planes. Planes for water landings too. But no more. Screw that crap. They say screw me. I say no, screw them.
The only time Im going up now is to jump. Luv that too until they screw us on that one too. Im sure its coming.
The whole damn thing just makes me wanna cuss in unimaginable ways.
Damn; thanks for reminding me about why I have my private pilot's license. I have my medical coming due in a couple of months, and I was beginning to grouse about all the hoops to jump through, the costs, etc.
Oh, and Texacon: I usually fly with 2 knives on my person at any given time, as well as my XD in a shoulder holster with 2 spare mags (unless I'm going to Califunny, of course). No questions asked, no gub'mint eyes batted, and no requirements to dis-arm, disrobe and become a sheeple in order to get into the air.
You a skydiver Jan?
KC
I am. When I get a chance. Only down side is its sooo addictive. And the closest jump site is only about 30-40 minutes away.
Ive always wanted a pilots license too.
I see you were Airborne? Nice. :)
I hear ya on all of the above. On the attire part, I realize people want to be comfortable, but seriously, look somewhat presentable people!!!
It's better to take less. Many hotels have laundry or laundry facilities, and bathing suits can be rinsed out and dried in the hotel bathroom. One can always buy an extra tshirt or whatever, especially if one is bringing goodies back......
The worst airport I have ever been in is Heathrow London.... :(
yeah ill bet Heathrow is a security night mare
Actually, the last time I was there (2006) it wasn't all that bad. It's just so thrown-together where some of the terminal areas are okay, but others are like freakin quonset huts barely wide enough for two people to pass each other.
Ahhhh for the good old days of the late 60's, early 70's when a few of us fellows would gather at the local grass strip airport on Sunday mornings. We'd sit around and fly desk for a while then we'd load up in a plane or two and fly 200 miles down to Atlanta for coffee and doughnuts. Actually we'd fly down there to watch the beautiful young ladies in their micro-mini skirts pass thru the terminal.
Hey, when you live way out in the country it doesn't take much to entertain you.
Actually, the last time I was there (2006) it wasn't all that bad. It's just so thrown-together where some of the terminal areas are okay, but others are like freakin quonset huts barely wide enough for two people to pass each other.
I hear ya on all of the above. On the attire part, I realize people want to be comfortable, but seriously, look somewhat presentable people!!!
It's better to take less. Many hotels have laundry or laundry facilities, and bathing suits can be rinsed out and dried in the hotel bathroom. One can always buy an extra tshirt or whatever, especially if one is bringing goodies back......
The worst airport I have ever been in is Heathrow London.... :(
I travelled to Europe 5 times with a bunch of women back in 2003-2005...a friend is a travel agent and she put together some really cheap trips. $2000 or less for 12 days. It was great! She can't put them together for under $3000 or more these days, even cutting the trips down to 7 or 9 days. :(
3 of them were tour bus deals, and 2 were just four of us. On the tour bus, I was allowed one suitcase - max size at the time, and one carry-on. On the other two trips, I was schlepping my own, and we were on ferries and trains, so we had 24" inch bags and backpacks. No laundry time on the tour bus, but we did find a laundry on the other two.
Prior to those trips, I was one of those packers that had a suitcase of mostly shoes, purses, toiletries. :whatever: And another of a different complete matching outfit for each day, I was going to be gone.
(What can I say, I want clean clothes!)
I was in a panic over what to pack. I learned that 2 pair of black wrinkle free khakis, 2 pairs of jeans, tops that could be layered, 2 or 3 sweaters that would go with all the tops, a multipurpose coat( the tour trips were in March), a very lightweight jacket, the sneakers on my feet (take up too much room in suitcase) and a pair loafers with non-skid soles (necessary for cobblestone streets) were all I needed. Since clean undies are a daily necessity, I took the worst ones I had, and threw them out as I wore them. I took M's holey t-shirts to sleep in, they too went in the trash. Same with socks. Toiletries were the mini-size, so that they could be thrown out too. I also bought those cheap washclothes that you can get that are like 10 for $5. (never saw washclothes in Europe :???: )As stuff went out, in went all the really neat stuff I bought.
The most important thing to take when packing "light" .... is a travel size bottle of Febreeze!!
The most important thing to remember....you want to look clean and presentable, but you don't have to "impress" anyone, 'cause you won't see anyone you know, or will ever see again...so it doesn't matter if you have the same top or sweater on every other day...as long as they smell and look "fresh". :-)
One thing I like to do, especially a country unknown, is do some research on the climate. I have a few split skirts I like to bring, you can dress them up or wear them casual. and cargo pants are nice. a good pair of walking shoes/sandals works well. i bring a couple odf fabric softner sheets.