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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BamaMoose on April 07, 2010, 02:05:17 PM
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Unfortunately, not in a good way.
Systematic Chaos (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-06-10 07:10 PM
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Think the labor board has your back if you have a grievance? Think again.
Long story short: My wife was terminated from a job she'd held for nearly 5 years on April 1st. According to the Nevada Revised Statutes (NRS), her employer is to make her final paycheck available to her within three calendar days, which would have been the 4th at the latest. If an employee is not paid within three calendar days, then that employee is entitled to additional compensation at the rate of 8 hours pay per day for the next 30 days until such pay is finally received. That's the ******* law, and one would expect the law actually be followed, right?
RIGHT?
She's made numerous calls to the company (a large call center employing several hundred here and thousands more globally), and has spoken to her old supervisors, the head of the department she worked in, and others yet could never get a straight answer about when she'd be paid. She also had not been getting her due vacation hours on her paychecks for nearly two months, and was never given a satisfactory answer about that either.
Finally, in exasperation, we looked up the NRS concerning employment law and termination pay and bookmarked the applicable code sections. When she called the company today and started quoting the law word for word to somebody there, she finally was given a direct transfer to payroll. Finally. Of course, they tell her that her check is ready, but that "due to the nature of her termination" -- total bullshit in itself, but a very long story which I won't bore you with -- she would not be receiving her paid vacation time no matter what, due to "company policy".
We made a call to the State Labor Board about all of this just a while ago. The lady on the phone was very polite with both of us, and was sympathetic when my wife lost control and began to cry because of the enormous frustration she is feeling. But, here's the gist of it:
First, the labor board can't intercede whatsoever in the issue of back vacation time. The lady explained that the law only applies to wages and salary, but not benefits other than insurance issues like COBRA. Okay, we're not happy with that but we can accept it, I guess.
Second -- and this is truly outrageous -- the lady on the phone explained that the office's investigators are no longer able to enforce the law with regard to termination pay "in most cases", "because of the state of the economy".
So, not only are people in this state having an almost impossible time finding employment to begin with, but the system has no interest in backing up those who aren't even being given their final paychecks in a timely manner. I should note that until my wife finally went Legal Eagle on these dipshits at her job, they were asking her to wait several additional days, due to "paperwork errors".
Everyone, please, do yourselves a favor and never take a job with Sitel. As far as call center work goes, they're about as bad as it gets.
Systematic Chaos (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-06-10 07:34 PM
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3. I want her to file, but I know from experience that it's now "their" word against hers...
...and "their" word will trump her word every time.
They claim that they had to fire her because of a call in which she became "extremely rude" to a customer all the way back on the 24th of March. She was given no opportunity to review that call for herself, and her totally worthless "coach" at the time just shoved the forms in front of her and that was that.
Now, what our unemployment division will do is deny her unemployment because her termination was "her fault". Of course, she can appeal that denial of benefits, but there's precious little chance that would change anything.
As for the vacation time, she just stopped accruing it for no reason starting around the beginning of March, and was stuck having to ask her totally worthless "coach" about it time and again, before finally going over his empty head. Even then, nothing was ever done. And no, she won't be getting paid any of it whatsoever, not the scant few hours she did have nor the 7 or 8 additional hours she would have accrued over the past few weeks. They flatly told her so on the phone.
I'm seriously wondering if there's a smart lawyer out there, desperate for some work, who wouldn't mind going after these people for wrongful termination. After 5 years with this company, I just don't see my wife flying off the handle and yelling at someone's precious son or daughter during a troubleshooting session. Supposedly it was a complaint from said son or daughter's father which brought all this on.
Finally, she, like myself, is somebody with an above-average IQ but little in the way of formal education. She could be trained into decent work very quickly and would become a model employee. I don't doubt that for a second. BUT, because she doesn't have one of those cutesy "specialized degrees" from some predatory trade school, nor has she attended college, she'll be stuck going to the next low-pay service job like it or not. Such is the way of the world.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8101188
Looks like Kirk needs to get cracking on that resume.
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Looks like Kirk needs to get cracking on that resume.
Jeanette seems like a harmless, innocuous, person, and one feels for her.
But now, given that the gigantic primitive's at 400 pounds and in reasonable shape to hold a job, it's time for him to step to bat, and instead of yelling-and-screaming at the injustice done his wife, to start bringing home some bacon himself.
Despite this supposedly tawdry treatment by both the company and the state of Nevada, no one, but no one, has used and abused Jeanette more so than the gigantic primitive, who's a large bloated albatross around her neck.
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This cracks me up:
Finally, she, like myself, is somebody with an above-average IQ.....
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This cracks me up:
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Finally, she, like myself, is somebody with an above-average IQ.....
Yeah, I laughed at that too. Between the two super geniuses, however, they couldn't figure out that that you talk to the payroll department when you have a payroll problem. The thing with her leave is also very dubious.
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Smart enough to whine and cry and bitch on the internet all day long, about various subjects, but not smart enough to figure out how to make those hours p r o d u c t i v e .....
That's the secret Kirk. Find a job where you can sit on your ass all day long and type on a computer. You do it for free now! Damn.
KC
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Yeah, I laughed at that too. Between the two super geniuses, however, they couldn't figure out that that you talk to the payroll department when you have a payroll problem. The thing with her leave is also very dubious.
I'm sure Sigmund Freud could make a lot of hay out of that comment.
The gigantic primitive's trying to reassure himself (by reminding others) that he's just as good as his wife.
Haha.
Yeah, right.
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This little family is now in serious financial straits. Kirk needs to get to work and NOW. How many big fat IT guys have we all worked with? Anybody who can operate a computer like Kirk does, can do a job. Plus, Frank had that whole list of suitable jobs prepared in that other thread.
BTW, what's a "predatory trade school?"
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Oh man- I almost copied this one yesterday to make fun of those dump rats who think labor unions are 100% benevolent entities that only care for the working man. I know- historically they have done good work, but to hear the union supporters over at the dump, these labor boards can do no wrong and evil corporations would stomp them into the ground at every turn if they weren't protected. I didn't realize LVL was the OP.
Poor Janette.
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I blame global warming.
Here Kirk, this is what you need.
(http://http.cdnlayer.com/smoola/00/01/09/330f659ea99c7a09_m.jpg)
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I blame global warming.
Here Kirk, this is what you need.
(http://http.cdnlayer.com/smoola/00/01/09/330f659ea99c7a09_m.jpg)
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OMG BACON CHEESE FRIES....all it needs is some jalepenos, and an icy cold beer. Yeah, that's it. :-)
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Yeah, I laughed at that too. Between the two super geniuses, however, they couldn't figure out that that you talk to the payroll department when you have a payroll problem. The thing with her leave is also very dubious.
Can I admit to feeling sorry for Jeanette? Can you imagine being the girl chained to Jabba? This girl either has way low "self-esteem" or she thinks she can "change" this guy. Somehow.
So she actually lost her sweat job basement call-taking job? That is pretty sad, what job can be lower than that?
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I blame global warming.
Here Kirk, this is what you need.
(http://http.cdnlayer.com/smoola/00/01/09/330f659ea99c7a09_m.jpg)
I just finished my dinner, and now I'm hungry again.
The Las Vegas Lardass will not give even a passing thought to the idea of getting a job. He'd have to give up his precious disability payments, and he would have to limit his hours on World of Warcraft. The disability check is enough to keep up his premium WoW subscription, and it's Jeanette's responsibility to keep him fed, so what's the problem? A guy with Kirk's overwhelming intelligence has it all figured out. Besides, where is he going to find size 17EEEEEE shoes to fit his leg flippers? Now, if Jeanette were to jump ship, that would qualify as a catastrophe. It's not a good sign that she has become so short tempered she got fired for acting like a DUmmy. The LVL has always been a lazy worthless prick, but Jeanette has seemed to be a harmless dunce with an unlimited capacity for absorbing abuse. Maybe she's finally reaching the end of her string.
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Gobucks reminds me that Jeanette is a DUmmie, besides being a tragic figure, through her own decisions and delusions. After everything she has done to keep the Lard of the Fries fed and happy, it might just be dawning on her that things are not as they should be.
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Can I admit to feeling sorry for Jeanette? Can you imagine being the girl chained to Jabba? This girl either has way low "self-esteem" or she thinks she can "change" this guy. Somehow.
So she actually lost her sweat job basement call-taking job? That is pretty sad, what job can be lower than that?
Oh, I feel sorry for her. I got BS'ed back in the day for pitying various Dummies of Distinction with obvious serious mental illness. Unfortunately, when someone puts their sad, pathetic existence in the public eye, you sometime have to point and laugh.
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Oh, I feel sorry for her. I got BS'ed back in the day for pitying various Dummies of Distinction with obvious serious mental illness. Unfortunately, when someone puts their sad, pathetic existence in the public eye, you sometime have to point and laugh.
Lil' Ava too. That pathetic creature, I still have a little warm spot for her. heh.
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Besides, where is he going to find size 17EEEEEE shoes to fit his leg flippers?
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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We made a call to the State Labor Board about all of this just a while ago. The lady on the phone was very polite with both of us, and was sympathetic when my wife lost control and began to cry because of the enormous frustration she is feeling.
Once again, LVL shows just how much he goes to bat for Jeanette. The last time she had work problems, he was resolute in kicking ass for her with work, until the following morning when he let her take care of it. He had to sleep in. It's not unlike when he had sink problems, and he swore that he would get it taken care of, and instead poor Jeanette plunged away and called the building manager. Now he claims "we" called the labor board, but Jeanette is the one crying on the phone.
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I blame global warming.
Here Kirk, this is what you need.
(http://http.cdnlayer.com/smoola/00/01/09/330f659ea99c7a09_m.jpg)
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I needed to pop a nitroglycerin under my tongue after looking at that.
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"Lard of the Fries" :lmao: Good one, FGL!
I'll never forgive Kirk for mentioning that Jeanette has personal feminine problem-solvers in the bathroom medicine chest.
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I'll never forgive Kirk for mentioning that Jeanette has personal feminine problem-solvers in the bathroom medicine chest.
I'll never forgive the gigantic primitive for pointing out that his wife is unaesthetic.
That really pissed me off.
It's true that Jeanette is no Clare Boothe Luce.
But a man never talks about his woman like that.
Asshole.
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Yes Frank! That is so right. And a Gentleman would never say that about any woman, in public at least.
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I'll never forgive the gigantic primitive for pointing out that his wife is unaesthetic.
That really pissed me off.
It's true that Jeanette is no Clare Boothe Luce.
But a man never talks about his woman like that.
Asshole.
Did he? I missed that. How disrespectful, completely. After all the shit she puts up with, him being pile numero uno, he has the audacity to disrespect his wife in public, hoping for sympathy for himself no doubt. No matter Jeanette's appearance, she could do orders better than the LVL.
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Did he? I missed that. How disrespectful, completely. After all the shit she puts up with, him being pile numero uno, he has the audacity to disrespect his wife in public, hoping for sympathy for himself no doubt. No matter Jeanette's appearance, she could do orders better than the LVL.
Oh yes.
I'm looking for the exact comment, but it appears the gigantic primitive's literary output is nearly that of my own, and so it's taking some deep digging.
The way I recall it, the gigantic primitive, in talking about his wife's woes (never mentioning the gigantic primitive himself is the biggest of her woes), mentioned in passing--so quickly one could miss it--that she's far from attractive.
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Yes Frank! That is so right. And a Gentleman would never say that about any woman, in public at least.
And therein lies the tragedy of the defrocked warped primitive.
The defrocked warped primitive, a femme, was alas born not aesthetic, even as a little girl.
She had to take some grief from her paternal ancestor (an asshole, but not in the same way the defrocked warped thinks he was), from childhood playmates, high-school boys, and drug-addled boyfriends and ex-husband.
The author Ludwig Bemelmans once wrote that the most heart-wrenching sight in life is seeing an ugly child weeping.
I wrote about such a sight myself, seen in the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants with free medical care for all; a grotesquely ugly and misshapen miniature monstrosity, huddling in a corner, sobbing in his rejection by his fellows in the park.
It rips the guts out, seeing such a thing.
And thus also the tragedy of the defrocked warped primitive.
And thus the devolution of what would otherwise be a decent and civilized person, into primitivity.
This is why I always counsel those of the male persuasion to try, no matter how difficult it is, to find something appealing in an otherwise unaesthetic woman, and to compliment her on it. Not soft-soap, but something real; such as the friendly smile on an obese woman, or the sparkling eyes on an ugly teenagerette, or the kindness of a mannish-looking little girl.
Women put great stock in words about their appearance; I dunno why they do, but they do.
Every time a man says something nice (and true) about a woman, a primitive is aborted.
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I grew up ugly myself Frank, but thankfully I'm a guy and I couldn't care less what people thought of me. The worst thing is that some of these women have very bad taste in men, if they would set their sites for nice guys, even if a bit hefty, they'd be treated like queen of the world.
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I grew up ugly myself Frank, but thankfully I'm a guy and I couldn't care less what people thought of me.
Oh, but we all think of ourselves as ugly when children.
It wasn't until I was an adult that I finally realized I myself am so average-looking one can't possibly get more average-looking than franksolich; everything is so average, from the size of the nose to the eyes to the shape of the feet to the length of the fingers.
Perhaps the height (6'3") in places other than Nebraska might be considered unusual, and of course there's the absence of ears, but that's covered by a full head of thick, luxurious hair.
This is why it's never necessary, courtesy my felllow alum Skins, to post a photograph of franksolich, because franksolich is a near-carbon-copy of his fellow alum. All one has to do is look at a pre-2007 photograph of Skins, and immediately recognize, "oh, that's what franksolich looks like, too."
This does not apply to recent photographs of my fellow alum; apparently since 2007 he's either gotten contact lenses or had the insides of his eyes snipped, and nowadays he looks as if an embalmed Nancy Reagan, and thus the resemblence no longer exists.
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I needed to pop a nitroglycerin under my tongue after looking at that.
Me TOO! But damned if I wouldn't clean the plate if given the chance!!!!
"Lard of the Fries"!!......... Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Can't remember who came up with that one, but thanx for making such a sad story palatable! Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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Oh, but we all think of ourselves as ugly when children.
Right. Some us were right. lol.
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And therein lies the tragedy of the defrocked warped primitive.
The defrocked warped primitive, a femme, was alas born not aesthetic, even as a little girl.
She had to take some grief from her paternal ancestor (an asshole, but not in the same way the defrocked warped thinks he was), from childhood playmates, high-school boys, and drug-addled boyfriends and ex-husband.
The author Ludwig Bemelmans once wrote that the most heart-wrenching sight in life is seeing an ugly child weeping.
I wrote about such a sight myself, seen in the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants with free medical care for all; a grotesquely ugly and misshapen miniature monstrosity, huddling in a corner, sobbing in his rejection by his fellows in the park.
It rips the guts out, seeing such a thing.
And thus also the tragedy of the defrocked warped primitive.
And thus the devolution of what would otherwise be a decent and civilized person, into primitivity.
This is why I always counsel those of the male persuasion to try, no matter how difficult it is, to find something appealing in an otherwise unaesthetic woman, and to compliment her on it. Not soft-soap, but something real; such as the friendly smile on an obese woman, or the sparkling eyes on an ugly teenagerette, or the kindness of a mannish-looking little girl.
Women put great stock in words about their appearance; I dunno why they do, but they do.
Every time a man says something nice (and true) about a woman, a primitive is aborted.
There's a gal that works customer service at the De Pot, she weighs 300 if not more, yet I believe she has the most angelic face I have ever ran across. I call her "Cutie", I love to see the blush in those cheeks! I'm old enough to be her father, but it sure makes her day!
It's sometimes the little things we do that can make an abysmal day turn into bright sunshine!
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Oh, but we all think of ourselves as ugly when children.
It wasn't until I was an adult that I finally realized I myself am so average-looking one can't possibly get more average-looking than franksolich; everything is so average, from the size of the nose to the eyes to the shape of the feet to the length of the fingers.
Perhaps the height (6'3") in places other than Nebraska might be considered unusual, and of course there's the absence of ears, but that's covered by a full head of thick, luxurious hair.
This is why it's never necessary, courtesy my felllow alum Skins, to post a photograph of franksolich, because franksolich is a near-carbon-copy of his fellow alum. All one has to do is look at a pre-2007 photograph of Skins, and immediately recognize, "oh, that's what franksolich looks like, too."
This does not apply to recent photographs of my fellow alum; apparently since 2007 he's either gotten contact lenses or had the insides of his eyes snipped, and nowadays he looks as if an embalmed Nancy Reagan, and thus the resemblence no longer exists.
When born, my Mother told me I was the ugliest baby she had ever seen! I was all hands, nose, feet, and..........
My Dad bragged about it for years!
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This little family is now in serious financial straits. Kirk needs to get to work and NOW. How many big fat IT guys have we all worked with? Anybody who can operate a computer like Kirk does, can do a job. Plus, Frank had that whole list of suitable jobs prepared in that other thread.
BTW, what's a "predatory trade school?"
I think that's a school that requires you to pay for classes. Kinda like those predatory grocery stores and hardware stores.
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I think that's a school that requires you to pay for classes. Kinda like those predatory grocery stores and hardware stores.
LOL!
^5
KC
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Systematic Chaos (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-06-10 07:10 PM
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Think the labor board has your back if you have a grievance? Think again.
Long story short: My wife was terminated from a job she'd held for nearly 5 years on April 1st. According to the Nevada Revised Statutes (NRS), her employer is to make her final paycheck available to her within three calendar days, which would have been the 4th at the latest. If an employee is not paid within three calendar days, then that employee is entitled to additional compensation at the rate of 8 hours pay per day for the next 30 days until such pay is finally received. That's the ******* law, and one would expect the law actually be followed, right?
It's a liberal law, it's a democrat admin law, it's a union law!
IT AIN'T WORTH SHIT!
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Say, howz the underside of that 0bama bus looking?
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Finally, she, like myself, is somebody with an above-average IQ.....
And yet there are monkeys the world over employed by circus' making a living by simply scratching their armpits and nuts to a crowd of gleeful DUmmy on-lookers.
Nuff said...
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I blame global warming.
Here Kirk, this is what you need.
(http://http.cdnlayer.com/smoola/00/01/09/330f659ea99c7a09_m.jpg)
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That actually looks pretty good! It is early and I haven't had my monkey food yet.
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I just finished my dinner, and now I'm hungry again.
The Las Vegas Lardass will not give even a passing thought to the idea of getting a job. He'd have to give up his precious disability payments, and he would have to limit his hours on World of Warcraft. The disability check is enough to keep up his premium WoW subscription, and it's Jeanette's responsibility to keep him fed, so what's the problem? A guy with Kirk's overwhelming intelligence has it all figured out. Besides, where is he going to find size 17EEEEEE shoes to fit his leg flippers? Now, if Jeanette were to jump ship, that would qualify as a catastrophe. It's not a good sign that she has become so short tempered she got fired for acting like a DUmmy. The LVL has always been a lazy worthless prick, but Jeanette has seemed to be a harmless dunce with an unlimited capacity for absorbing abuse. Maybe she's finally reaching the end of her string.
Oooo....you are on to something and for her sake, I do hope Jeanette is ready to free herself from the gravitational pull of the leviathan in tennis shoes.
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I'll never forgive the gigantic primitive for pointing out that his wife is unaesthetic.
That really pissed me off.
It's true that Jeanette is no Clare Boothe Luce.
But a man never talks about his woman like that.
Asshole.
No shit!
If I were to ever meet that cocksucker in person I would break his fracking jaw for saying shit like that about his GF and pantry supplier.
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There's a gal that works customer service at the De Pot, she weighs 300 if not more, yet I believe she has the most angelic face I have ever ran across. I call her "Cutie", I love to see the blush in those cheeks! I'm old enough to be her father, but it sure makes her day!
It's sometimes the little things we do that can make an abysmal day turn into bright sunshine!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being kind and courteous to another human being. Just a slight little compliment to someone that may not outwardly mimic Christie Brinkley but has a heart and yearning for just being acknowledged one in the same.
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When born, my Mother told me I was the ugliest baby she had ever seen! I was all hands, nose, feet, and..........
My Dad bragged about it for years!
Well, unlike Mr. Mini-Moon himself, at least your wife doesn't bitch about your "short-comings" on the Internets! :-) :evillaugh:
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Well, unlike Mr. Mini-Moon himself, at least your wife doesn't bitch about your "short-comings" on the Internets! :-) :evillaugh:
Trust me, she is lookin' over my shoulder on many occasions. If I talked of her like the "Lard of the Flies" does poor Jeanette, I'd be meetin' an untimely expiration date!