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Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« on: April 07, 2010, 02:05:17 PM »
Unfortunately, not in a good way.

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Systematic Chaos  (1000+ posts)      Tue Apr-06-10 07:10 PM
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Think the labor board has your back if you have a grievance? Think again.
 Long story short: My wife was terminated from a job she'd held for nearly 5 years on April 1st. According to the Nevada Revised Statutes (NRS), her employer is to make her final paycheck available to her within three calendar days, which would have been the 4th at the latest. If an employee is not paid within three calendar days, then that employee is entitled to additional compensation at the rate of 8 hours pay per day for the next 30 days until such pay is finally received. That's the ******* law, and one would expect the law actually be followed, right?

RIGHT?

She's made numerous calls to the company (a large call center employing several hundred here and thousands more globally), and has spoken to her old supervisors, the head of the department she worked in, and others yet could never get a straight answer about when she'd be paid. She also had not been getting her due vacation hours on her paychecks for nearly two months, and was never given a satisfactory answer about that either.

Finally, in exasperation, we looked up the NRS concerning employment law and termination pay and bookmarked the applicable code sections. When she called the company today and started quoting the law word for word to somebody there, she finally was given a direct transfer to payroll. Finally. Of course, they tell her that her check is ready, but that "due to the nature of her termination" -- total bullshit in itself, but a very long story which I won't bore you with -- she would not be receiving her paid vacation time no matter what, due to "company policy".

We made a call to the State Labor Board about all of this just a while ago. The lady on the phone was very polite with both of us, and was sympathetic when my wife lost control and began to cry because of the enormous frustration she is feeling. But, here's the gist of it:

First, the labor board can't intercede whatsoever in the issue of back vacation time. The lady explained that the law only applies to wages and salary, but not benefits other than insurance issues like COBRA. Okay, we're not happy with that but we can accept it, I guess.

Second -- and this is truly outrageous -- the lady on the phone explained that the office's investigators are no longer able to enforce the law with regard to termination pay "in most cases", "because of the state of the economy".

So, not only are people in this state having an almost impossible time finding employment to begin with, but the system has no interest in backing up those who aren't even being given their final paychecks in a timely manner. I should note that until my wife finally went Legal Eagle on these dipshits at her job, they were asking her to wait several additional days, due to "paperwork errors".

Everyone, please, do yourselves a favor and never take a job with Sitel. As far as call center work goes, they're about as bad as it gets.

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Systematic Chaos  (1000+ posts)      Tue Apr-06-10 07:34 PM
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3. I want her to file, but I know from experience that it's now "their" word against hers...
 ...and "their" word will trump her word every time.

They claim that they had to fire her because of a call in which she became "extremely rude" to a customer all the way back on the 24th of March. She was given no opportunity to review that call for herself, and her totally worthless "coach" at the time just shoved the forms in front of her and that was that.

Now, what our unemployment division will do is deny her unemployment because her termination was "her fault". Of course, she can appeal that denial of benefits, but there's precious little chance that would change anything.

As for the vacation time, she just stopped accruing it for no reason starting around the beginning of March, and was stuck having to ask her totally worthless "coach" about it time and again, before finally going over his empty head. Even then, nothing was ever done. And no, she won't be getting paid any of it whatsoever, not the scant few hours she did have nor the 7 or 8 additional hours she would have accrued over the past few weeks. They flatly told her so on the phone.

I'm seriously wondering if there's a smart lawyer out there, desperate for some work, who wouldn't mind going after these people for wrongful termination. After 5 years with this company, I just don't see my wife flying off the handle and yelling at someone's precious son or daughter during a troubleshooting session. Supposedly it was a complaint from said son or daughter's father which brought all this on.

Finally, she, like myself, is somebody with an above-average IQ but little in the way of formal education. She could be trained into decent work very quickly and would become a model employee. I don't doubt that for a second. BUT, because she doesn't have one of those cutesy "specialized degrees" from some predatory trade school, nor has she attended college, she'll be stuck going to the next low-pay service job like it or not. Such is the way of the world.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8101188

Looks like Kirk needs to get cracking on that resume.
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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2010, 02:13:45 PM »
Looks like Kirk needs to get cracking on that resume.

Jeanette seems like a harmless, innocuous, person, and one feels for her.

But now, given that the gigantic primitive's at 400 pounds and in reasonable shape to hold a job, it's time for him to step to bat, and instead of yelling-and-screaming at the injustice done his wife, to start bringing home some bacon himself.

Despite this supposedly tawdry treatment by both the company and the state of Nevada, no one, but no one, has used and abused Jeanette more so than the gigantic primitive, who's a large bloated albatross around her neck.
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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2010, 02:20:01 PM »
This cracks me up:

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Finally, she, like myself, is somebody with an above-average IQ.....
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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2010, 02:43:06 PM »
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This cracks me up:


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Finally, she, like myself, is somebody with an above-average IQ.....


Yeah, I laughed at that too.  Between the two super geniuses, however, they couldn't figure out that that you talk to the payroll department when you have a payroll problem.  The thing with her leave is also very dubious.

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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2010, 03:09:54 PM »
Smart enough to whine and cry and bitch on the internet all day long, about various subjects, but not smart enough to figure out how to make those hours p r o d u c t i v e .....

That's the secret Kirk.  Find a job where you can sit on your ass all day long and type on a computer.  You do it for free now!  Damn.

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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2010, 03:10:53 PM »
Yeah, I laughed at that too.  Between the two super geniuses, however, they couldn't figure out that that you talk to the payroll department when you have a payroll problem.  The thing with her leave is also very dubious.

I'm sure Sigmund Freud could make a lot of hay out of that comment.

The gigantic primitive's trying to reassure himself (by reminding others) that he's just as good as his wife.

Haha.

Yeah, right.
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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2010, 03:33:55 PM »
This little family is now in serious financial straits.  Kirk needs to get to work and NOW.  How many big fat IT guys have we all worked with?  Anybody who can operate a computer like Kirk does, can do a job.  Plus, Frank had that whole list of suitable jobs prepared in that other thread.

BTW, what's a "predatory trade school?"

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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2010, 03:38:14 PM »
Oh man- I almost copied this one yesterday to make fun of those dump rats who think labor unions are 100% benevolent entities that only care for the working man. I know- historically they have done good work, but to hear the union supporters over at the dump, these labor boards can do no wrong and evil corporations would stomp them into the ground at every turn if they weren't protected.  I didn't realize LVL was the OP. 

Poor Janette.

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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2010, 03:57:21 PM »
I blame global warming.

Here Kirk, this is what you need.



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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2010, 04:51:05 PM »
I blame global warming.

Here Kirk, this is what you need.



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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2010, 05:12:57 PM »
Yeah, I laughed at that too.  Between the two super geniuses, however, they couldn't figure out that that you talk to the payroll department when you have a payroll problem.  The thing with her leave is also very dubious.

Can I admit to feeling sorry for Jeanette? Can you imagine being the girl chained to Jabba? This girl either has way low "self-esteem" or she thinks she can "change" this guy. Somehow.

So she actually lost her sweat job basement call-taking job? That is pretty sad, what job can be lower than that?

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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2010, 07:43:37 PM »
I blame global warming.

Here Kirk, this is what you need.


I just finished my dinner, and now I'm hungry again.

The Las Vegas Lardass will not give even a passing thought to the idea of getting a job. He'd have to give up his precious disability payments, and he would have to limit his hours on World of Warcraft. The disability check is enough to keep up his premium WoW subscription, and it's Jeanette's responsibility to keep him fed, so what's the problem? A guy with Kirk's overwhelming intelligence has it all figured out. Besides, where is he going to find size 17EEEEEE shoes to fit his leg flippers? Now, if Jeanette were to jump ship, that would qualify as a catastrophe. It's not a good sign that she has become so short tempered she got fired for acting like a DUmmy. The LVL has always been a lazy worthless prick, but Jeanette has seemed to be a harmless dunce with an unlimited capacity for absorbing abuse. Maybe she's finally reaching the end of her string.

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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2010, 08:00:00 PM »
Gobucks reminds me that Jeanette is a DUmmie, besides being a tragic figure, through her own decisions and delusions. After everything she has done to keep the Lard of the Fries fed and happy, it might just be dawning on her that things are not as they should be.

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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2010, 08:20:00 PM »
Can I admit to feeling sorry for Jeanette? Can you imagine being the girl chained to Jabba? This girl either has way low "self-esteem" or she thinks she can "change" this guy. Somehow.

So she actually lost her sweat job basement call-taking job? That is pretty sad, what job can be lower than that?

Oh, I feel sorry for her.  I got BS'ed back in the day for pitying various Dummies of Distinction with obvious serious mental illness.  Unfortunately, when someone puts their sad, pathetic existence in the public eye, you sometime have to point and laugh.

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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2010, 08:21:13 PM »
Oh, I feel sorry for her.  I got BS'ed back in the day for pitying various Dummies of Distinction with obvious serious mental illness.  Unfortunately, when someone puts their sad, pathetic existence in the public eye, you sometime have to point and laugh.

Lil' Ava too. That pathetic creature, I still have a little warm spot for her. heh.

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Besides, where is he going to find size 17EEEEEE shoes to fit his leg flippers?
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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2010, 11:27:46 PM »
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We made a call to the State Labor Board about all of this just a while ago. The lady on the phone was very polite with both of us, and was sympathetic when my wife lost control and began to cry because of the enormous frustration she is feeling.

Once again, LVL shows just how much he goes to bat for Jeanette. The last time she had work problems, he was resolute in kicking ass for her with work, until the following morning when he let her take care of it. He had to sleep in. It's not unlike when he had sink problems, and he swore that he would get it taken care of, and instead poor Jeanette plunged away and called the building manager. Now he claims "we" called the labor board, but Jeanette is the one crying on the phone.

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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2010, 12:09:49 AM »
I blame global warming.

Here Kirk, this is what you need.



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I needed to pop a nitroglycerin under my tongue after looking at that.

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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2010, 07:17:27 AM »
"Lard of the Fries"   :lmao:  Good one, FGL!

I'll never forgive Kirk for mentioning that Jeanette has personal feminine problem-solvers in the bathroom medicine chest. 

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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2010, 07:21:41 AM »
I'll never forgive Kirk for mentioning that Jeanette has personal feminine problem-solvers in the bathroom medicine chest.

I'll never forgive the gigantic primitive for pointing out that his wife is unaesthetic.

That really pissed me off.

It's true that Jeanette is no Clare Boothe Luce.

But a man never talks about his woman like that.

Asshole.
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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2010, 07:45:12 AM »
Yes Frank! That is so right. And a Gentleman would never say that about any woman, in public at least.

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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2010, 08:02:40 AM »
I'll never forgive the gigantic primitive for pointing out that his wife is unaesthetic.

That really pissed me off.

It's true that Jeanette is no Clare Boothe Luce.

But a man never talks about his woman like that.

Asshole.

Did he? I missed that. How disrespectful, completely. After all the shit she puts up with, him being pile numero uno, he has the audacity to disrespect his wife in public, hoping for sympathy for himself no doubt. No matter Jeanette's appearance, she could do orders better than the LVL.

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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2010, 08:06:20 AM »
Did he? I missed that. How disrespectful, completely. After all the shit she puts up with, him being pile numero uno, he has the audacity to disrespect his wife in public, hoping for sympathy for himself no doubt. No matter Jeanette's appearance, she could do orders better than the LVL.

Oh yes.

I'm looking for the exact comment, but it appears the gigantic primitive's literary output is nearly that of my own, and so it's taking some deep digging.

The way I recall it, the gigantic primitive, in talking about his wife's woes (never mentioning the gigantic primitive himself is the biggest of her woes), mentioned in passing--so quickly one could miss it--that she's far from attractive.
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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2010, 08:24:46 AM »
Yes Frank! That is so right. And a Gentleman would never say that about any woman, in public at least.

And therein lies the tragedy of the defrocked warped primitive.

The defrocked warped primitive, a femme, was alas born not aesthetic, even as a little girl.

She had to take some grief from her paternal ancestor (an asshole, but not in the same way the defrocked warped thinks he was), from childhood playmates, high-school boys, and drug-addled boyfriends and ex-husband.

The author Ludwig Bemelmans once wrote that the most heart-wrenching sight in life is seeing an ugly child weeping.

I wrote about such a sight myself, seen in the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants with free medical care for all; a grotesquely ugly and misshapen miniature monstrosity, huddling in a corner, sobbing in his rejection by his fellows in the park.

It rips the guts out, seeing such a thing.

And thus also the tragedy of the defrocked warped primitive.

And thus the devolution of what would otherwise be a decent and civilized person, into primitivity.

This is why I always counsel those of the male persuasion to try, no matter how difficult it is, to find something appealing in an otherwise unaesthetic woman, and to compliment her on it.  Not soft-soap, but something real; such as the friendly smile on an obese woman, or the sparkling eyes on an ugly teenagerette, or the kindness of a mannish-looking little girl.

Women put great stock in words about their appearance; I dunno why they do, but they do.

Every time a man says something nice (and true) about a woman, a primitive is aborted.
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Re: Gigantic primative has change in employment status
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2010, 08:37:53 AM »
I grew up ugly myself Frank, but thankfully I'm a guy and I couldn't care less what people thought of me. The worst thing is that some of these women have very bad taste in men, if they would set their sites for nice guys, even if a bit hefty, they'd be treated like queen of the world.