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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2008 => Topic started by: Wretched Excess on February 26, 2008, 07:58:53 PM
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sparks should fly . . .
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I had to put up with keith olbermann for 15 seconds. that sucked. :banghead:
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and PMSNBC starts it all off trying to pick a fight, playing the video from hillary's rant this past weekend.
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brain williams didn't get the desired result from hillary, so now he is bringing up the "the photo" of The BarackStar!
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The BarackStar! on the mailing: "Hers were lies, too, and she sent her out first."
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The BarackStar! on the mailing: "Hers were lies, too, and she sent her out first."
LOL!
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I think The BarackStar! fully realizes that unless she can produce a birth certificate proving that Osama Bin Laden is his father, or an alien busts out of his chest and kills the entire audience on live television, that the nomination is his.
he, initially, at least, just wants to get out of this debate without stepping on a mine and blowing a limb off.
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hillary : "universal healthcare will work as a mandate because the federal government has many more resources to use to pay for it".
we aren't even mere taxpayers anymore. we are "federal resources".
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The BarackStar!: "mandated health care means fining people that can't afford it, and people choose to pay the fine because it is cheaper than healthcare."
okay, who can find the logical black hole in that argument? :whatever:
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hmmmm. I think she just said that universal health care will be an employer mandate.
no, I am sure. that is exactly what she said.
hillary : "aggressive measures to reduce cost"? how can you control cost when you guarantee demand?
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The BarackStar! : "her plan sucks, and will put people in jail. my plan rocks, and is far superior. and besides, there isn't a significant difference between our plans".
huh?
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brian williams brings up NAFTA.
hillary thinks it's a big conspiracy because she always gets the first question, and makes some odd comment about perhaps The BarackStar! needs another pillow to be sure he is comfortable.
(no, she really just said that.)
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Hillary : the republicans (george bush) broke NAFTA, but i will fix it.
The BarackStar! : NAFTA is destroying the country, even though i tried to help them when I was a community organizer (which I still don't know what the hell is), and NAFTA is hillary's middle name. and NAFTA was specifically designed to destroy ohio.
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tim russert is wearing the exact same tie as The BarackStar! if I was hillary, I would point this out. The BarackStar! and russert obvisouly got dressed together this morning. maybe that explains the "first question" issue.
seriously, they really are wearing the same tie.
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tim russert is wearing the exact same tie as The BarackStar! if I was hillary, I would point this out. The BarackStar! and russert obvisouly got dressed together this morning. maybe that explains the "first question" issue.
seriously, they really are wearing the same tie.
I didn't even notice that. LOL.
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Did you hear at the end of KO the drinking game tonight
Hillary: she cackles or says "shame on you" or something along those lines
Barack: I agree or something similar
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tim russert is wearing the exact same tie as The BarackStar! if I was hillary, I would point this out. The BarackStar! and russert obvisouly got dressed together this morning. maybe that explains the "first question" issue.
seriously, they really are wearing the same tie.
I didn't even notice that. LOL.
I am quirky that way. :p
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Did you hear at the end of KO the drinking game tonight
Hillary: she cackles or says "shame on you" or something along those lines
Barack: I agree or something similar
KO only partially understands the goal of drinking games, obviously. :)
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Did you hear at the end of KO the drinking game tonight
Hillary: she cackles or says "shame on you" or something along those lines
Barack: I agree or something similar
KO only partially understands the goal of drinking games, obviously. :)
I dunno, he looks like he's had a good hangover or two.
I say add the word change to the drinking game. Both will say it.
Hillary's getting hammered tonight.
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Also, she wore brown during last week's debate too.
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Did you hear at the end of KO the drinking game tonight
Hillary: she cackles or says "shame on you" or something along those lines
Barack: I agree or something similar
KO only partially understands the goal of drinking games, obviously. :)
I dunno, he looks like he's had a good hangover or two.
I say add the word change to the drinking game. Both will say it.
Hillary's getting hammered tonight.
she needs to go for a knockout, or drop to her knees and do the monicoughca on The BarackStar!, and beg him to stop kicking her a$$ in all these primaries.
but she is oddly splitting the difference.
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Did you hear at the end of KO the drinking game tonight
Hillary: she cackles or says "shame on you" or something along those lines
Barack: I agree or something similar
KO only partially understands the goal of drinking games, obviously. :)
I dunno, he looks like he's had a good hangover or two.
I say add the word change to the drinking game. Both will say it.
Hillary's getting hammered tonight.
she needs to go for a knockout, or drop to her knees and do the monicoughca on The BarackStar!, and beg him to stop kicking her a$$ in all these primaries.
but she is oddly splitting the difference.
I don't see any support for her in Texas, at least where I live & work. *shrug*
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Also, she wore brown during last week's debate too.
I remember a creepy collar thing that she had going on in one of the recent debates.
notice how The BarackStar! is so careful to pronounce "pakistan" (paakeeston)? he did the same thing with "taliban" in the last debate . . . .
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Did you hear at the end of KO the drinking game tonight
Hillary: she cackles or says "shame on you" or something along those lines
Barack: I agree or something similar
KO only partially understands the goal of drinking games, obviously. :)
I dunno, he looks like he's had a good hangover or two.
I say add the word change to the drinking game. Both will say it.
Hillary's getting hammered tonight.
she needs to go for a knockout, or drop to her knees and do the monicoughca on The BarackStar!, and beg him to stop kicking her a$$ in all these primaries.
but she is oddly splitting the difference.
I don't see any support for her in Texas, at least where I live & work. *shrug*
texas has been assimilated.
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Did you hear at the end of KO the drinking game tonight
Hillary: she cackles or says "shame on you" or something along those lines
Barack: I agree or something similar
KO only partially understands the goal of drinking games, obviously. :)
I dunno, he looks like he's had a good hangover or two.
I say add the word change to the drinking game. Both will say it.
Hillary's getting hammered tonight.
she needs to go for a knockout, or drop to her knees and do the monicoughca on The BarackStar!, and beg him to stop kicking her a$$ in all these primaries.
but she is oddly splitting the difference.
I don't see any support for her in Texas, at least where I live & work. *shrug*
texas has been assimilated.
Not all the way, I still know some republicans. LOL.
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hillary finally just pointed out (clumsily) that his speech against the war was irrelevant, because HE was irrelevant when he gave it.
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Did you hear at the end of KO the drinking game tonight
Hillary: she cackles or says "shame on you" or something along those lines
Barack: I agree or something similar
KO only partially understands the goal of drinking games, obviously. :)
I dunno, he looks like he's had a good hangover or two.
I say add the word change to the drinking game. Both will say it.
Hillary's getting hammered tonight.
she needs to go for a knockout, or drop to her knees and do the monicoughca on The BarackStar!, and beg him to stop kicking her a$$ in all these primaries.
but she is oddly splitting the difference.
I don't see any support for her in Texas, at least where I live & work. *shrug*
texas has been assimilated.
Not all the way, I still know some republicans. LOL.
I will die of shock if The BarackStar! wins texas.
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The BarackStar! insists that he was relevant when he gave the speech against the war because he was a senate candidate in "a high stakes senate race".
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I will die of shock if The BarackStar! wins texas.
In the primary or general? In the primary yes, general is questionable but I think it'll go republican in the general.
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I think The BarackStar! just equated a strike on an al quada leader and his desire earlier in the campaign to bomb pakistan.
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I will die of shock if The BarackStar! wins texas.
In the primary or general? In the primary yes, general is questionable but I think it'll go republican in the general.
the primary is in the bag for him, but I don't see how texas goes democratic in the general. if texas turns blue, something so incredible will have to have happened that it will be a 45 state blow out.
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this hysterical anti-war stance that The BarackStar! won't moderate on is a seriously high risk strategy. if iraq continues to improve, it is going to be a very difficult position to explain to the electorate after the conventions.
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I will die of shock if The BarackStar! wins texas.
In the primary or general? In the primary yes, general is questionable but I think it'll go republican in the general.
the primary is in the bag for him, but I don't see how texas goes democratic in the general. if texas turns blue, something so incredible will have to have happened that it will be a 45 state blow out.
It depends on the turnout I think. Dallas, Austin, Houston, SE Texas and on the border is blue already. Lets see the fireworks between McCain & Obama. :)
*She's getting killed today* And I agree with you on Iraq.
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I love it when they cut her off to go to commercial. LOL!
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interesting hypothetical question from russert. "once you pull out of of iraq, if it goes to hell, will you reenter the country to stabilize the situation?"
hillary tapdanced.
The BarackStar! just said he reserves the right as commander in chief to go after terrorists if they are in iraq planning attacks like the one on 9/11. umm, did he just say that? how is that significantly different from what GWB did?
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I will die of shock if The BarackStar! wins texas.
In the primary or general? In the primary yes, general is questionable but I think it'll go republican in the general.
the primary is in the bag for him, but I don't see how texas goes democratic in the general. if texas turns blue, something so incredible will have to have happened that it will be a 45 state blow out.
It depends on the turnout I think. Dallas, Austin, Houston, SE Texas and on the border is blue already. Lets see the fireworks between McCain & Obama. :)
*She's getting killed today* And I agree with you on Iraq.
bush took 61% of the popular vote in 2004. yeah, I realize he was the former governor of the state, but still . . .
I think hillary is much deeper on the issues, and infinitely better versed on the details myself.
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That's 2 cackles in a row.
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whoa. a very strange moment. PMSNBC screws up by showing the wrong video (they showed the one with hillary making fun of The BqarackStar!'s speaking style), forcing brian williams to ask a lame ass question like, "how did you take those comments?"
he said he gave her high marks for delivery and humor (or something along those lines).
then she cackled the witch cackle, and ruined the whole damn thing.
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The BarckStar! is being crafty about his socialist policies; he is phrasing them in the context of returning soldiers that are having a difficult time getting health care or finding a job. mccain will have to find a solution to that rhetorical contortion.
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She shouldn't be brining up her health care plan from the 90s.
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She shouldn't be brining up her health care plan from the 90s.
I don't mind. :evillaugh:
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She shouldn't be brining up her health care plan from the 90s.
I don't mind. :evillaugh:
Oh it's not like I want her as the nominee or president.
Obama calling her on saying her and Bill were "co-Presidents." LOL "You can't only take the good and ignore the bad"
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The BarackStar! just zinged the hell out of her "as a general rule, if you don't want something to pass, you vote against it".
that will leave a mark in the morning.
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She shouldn't be brining up her health care plan from the 90s.
I don't mind. :evillaugh:
Oh it's not like I want her as the nominee or president.
Obama calling her on saying her and Bill were "co-Presidents." LOL "You can't only take the good and ignore the bad"
well, if he concedes her "co-presidency", then he shouldn't have whined when the other "co-president" started beating on him.
the whole "co-presidency" thing gave me consitutional heartburn at the time, by the way, and I'm no more fond of it now.
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russert calling The BarackStar! on potentially waffling on public financing in the general. and NOW he is hiding behind hillary, as though he hasn't long since totally vanquished her.
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now The BarckStar! is trying to say that "public financing" is any financing that comes from the public. :whatever:
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She shouldn't be brining up her health care plan from the 90s.
I don't mind. :evillaugh:
Oh it's not like I want her as the nominee or president.
Obama calling her on saying her and Bill were "co-Presidents." LOL "You can't only take the good and ignore the bad"
well, if he concedes her "co-presidency", then he shouldn't have whined when the other "co-president" started beating on him.
the whole "co-presidency" thing gave me consitutional heartburn at the time, by the way, and I'm no more fond of it now.
But at the same point, Hillary can't say I was co-president, but I didn't agree with this or that blah blah blah. If she was co-president why the **** didn't she know her husband was boinking the intern.
Russert to Hillary: Why haven't you released your tax return.
Hillary "the people supporting me are financing my campaign"
Mia: Then where did you get that $5 million loan?
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ok, his answer to public financing sucked, but it was fully forthcoming and transparent compared to hers. jeeez. does she think that we have forgotten that she is a clinton, for heaven's sake?
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Hillary: I can't get my 2006 tax return ready to be released by next Tuesday. :whatever:
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She shouldn't be brining up her health care plan from the 90s.
I don't mind. :evillaugh:
Oh it's not like I want her as the nominee or president.
Obama calling her on saying her and Bill were "co-Presidents." LOL "You can't only take the good and ignore the bad"
well, if he concedes her "co-presidency", then he shouldn't have whined when the other "co-president" started beating on him.
the whole "co-presidency" thing gave me consitutional heartburn at the time, by the way, and I'm no more fond of it now.
But at the same point, Hillary can't say I was co-president, but I didn't agree with this or that blah blah blah. If she was co-president why the **** didn't she know her husband was boinking the intern.
Russert to Hillary: Why haven't you released your tax return.
Hillary "the people supporting me are financing my campaign"
Mia: Then where did you get that $5 million loan?
because boinking wasn't a legislative priority? :evillaugh:
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Hillary: I can't get my 2006 tax return ready to be released by next Tuesday. :whatever:
meh. this thing was over last tuesday. she couldn't even win if he got hit by a truck; she would lose to his corpse.
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Hillary: I can't get my 2006 tax return ready to be released by next Tuesday. :whatever:
meh. this thing was over last tuesday. she couldn't even win if he got hit by a truck; she would lose to his corpse.
It just proves how "Clinton" she is. I don't want another 4 years of that bullshit in the White House.
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Hillary: I can't get my 2006 tax return ready to be released by next Tuesday. :whatever:
meh. this thing was over last tuesday. she couldn't even win if he got hit by a truck; she would lose to his corpse.
It just proves how "Clinton" she is. I don't want another 4 years of that bullshit in the White House.
you know the old saying . . . "better the bullshit you know, than the bullshit you don't know . . ." :-)
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LOL! start watching the look on The BarackStar!'s face when hillary is talking . . . . he knows that he has a 28 point lead, and it's the 2 minute warning.
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Hillary tries to throw Obama under the bus by saying denouncing isn't as strong as rejecting
Obama comes back "I reject and denounce"
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Hillary tries to throw Obama under the bus by saying denouncing isn't as strong as rejecting
Obama comes back "I reject and denounce"
yeah, he did slap her across the room on that one. she spent 3 minutes decrying the fact that he won't "renounce" farakhan, so he instantly says that just to make her happy, he will "renounce and reject".
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Hillary tries to throw Obama under the bus by saying denouncing isn't as strong as rejecting
Obama comes back "I reject and denounce"
yeah, he did slap her across the room on that one. she spent 3 minutes decrying the fact that he won't "renounce" farakhan, so he instantly says that just to make her happy, he will "renounce and reject".
That was ****ing hilarious. That's what she gets for jumping into a question she had no business being in. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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hmmm. Is The BarackStar! the most liberal senator in congress? nay, he says. he splits hairs because in the ratings, the difference between him and hillary was on only two votes. "who, me, liberal?"
and besides, the ratings don't make sense anyway.
(but just in case they did, they were also wrong)
maybe he should say they are "wrong and silly?"
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what do you know about putin's successor?
this, ladies and gentlemen, is an opportunity for the candidates to blow themselves up.
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hmmm. Is The BarackStar! the most liberal senator in congress? nay, he says. he splits hairs because in the ratings, the difference between him and hillary was on only two votes. "who, me, liberal?"
and besides, the ratings don't make sense anyway.
(but just in case they did, they were also wrong)
maybe he should say they are "wrong and silly?"
I think they need to go over years worth. They've both missed votes in the last year and that would effect the ratings.
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hillary knew his name, but couldn't quite pronounce it. "medevedeeded-whatever" :-)
The BarackStar agrees with everything hillary just said. :whatever: and then goes on to an anecdote about bush and putin and "looking him in the eyes".
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hmmm. Is The BarackStar! the most liberal senator in congress? nay, he says. he splits hairs because in the ratings, the difference between him and hillary was on only two votes. "who, me, liberal?"
and besides, the ratings don't make sense anyway.
(but just in case they did, they were also wrong)
maybe he should say they are "wrong and silly?"
I think they need to go over years worth. They've both missed votes in the last year and that would effect the ratings.
he doesn't have "years worth', dear. that's sort of the whole point. :wink:
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The BarackStar! skated on the Medvedev question. if russert had called on him first, I truly believe he would have blown it.
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hmmm. Is The BarackStar! the most liberal senator in congress? nay, he says. he splits hairs because in the ratings, the difference between him and hillary was on only two votes. "who, me, liberal?"
and besides, the ratings don't make sense anyway.
(but just in case they did, they were also wrong)
maybe he should say they are "wrong and silly?"
I think they need to go over years worth. They've both missed votes in the last year and that would effect the ratings.
he doesn't have "years worth', dear. that's sort of the whole point. :wink:
Well he has 3 complete years worth.
I just always think these little most liberal/most conservative ratings when the candidate's been out there campaigning and missing votes to be a little misleading. :)
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hmmm. Is The BarackStar! the most liberal senator in congress? nay, he says. he splits hairs because in the ratings, the difference between him and hillary was on only two votes. "who, me, liberal?"
and besides, the ratings don't make sense anyway.
(but just in case they did, they were also wrong)
maybe he should say they are "wrong and silly?"
I think they need to go over years worth. They've both missed votes in the last year and that would effect the ratings.
he doesn't have "years worth', dear. that's sort of the whole point. :wink:
Well he has 3 complete years worth.
I just always think these little most liberal/most conservative ratings when the candidate's been out there campaigning and missing votes to be a little misleading. :)
he has been running for president for a year and a half of those 3 years, and not that 3 years is what I would call a healthy voting record on which to rely for the highest office in the land.
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The BarackStar! knows that he is sitting next to a dead chick, and he is graciously shoveling dirt on her. it was quite gentle, all things considered.
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The BarackStar! knows that he is sitting next to a dead chick, and he is graciously shoveling dirt on her. it was quite gentle, all things considered.
Agreed. She had to really knock him down tonight and it just didn't happen.
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I want to go to foxnews for the wrap up, but I know they are gong to wheel out that frank luntz asshat and his moronic chimpanzees with their little "reaction wheels".
I just can't stand that.
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The BarackStar! knows that he is sitting next to a dead chick, and he is graciously shoveling dirt on her. it was quite gentle, all things considered.
Agreed. She had to really knock him down tonight and it just didn't happen.
she had to knock him out, kill him, burn the corpse, and shoot the ashes into outer space.
none of those things were going to happen; this guy is entirely too smart. he was pretty much in a deep zone defense, and has been since super tuesday. tactically, that is, of course, the smart play.
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The BarackStar! thumped her on the back after the debate, very much like she is his golf buddy, and she just sank a 30 footer. :-)
the tie thing really was creepy. The BarackStar! walked over to russert at the end, and it looked . . . well . . . . odd.
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chelsea is whispering to huma in the background . . . . . I wonder what she is saying.
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The BarackStar! knows that he is sitting next to a dead chick, and he is graciously shoveling dirt on her. it was quite gentle, all things considered.
Agreed. She had to really knock him down tonight and it just didn't happen.
Yep, it's over for Hillary. Now lets see how far she's willing to bring down the democratic party with her.
she had to knock him out, kill him, burn the corpse, and shoot the ashes into outer space.
none of those things were going to happen; this guy is entirely too smart. he was pretty much in a deep zone defense, and has been since super tuesday. tactically, that is, of course, the smart play.
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chelsea is whispering to huma in the background . . . . . I wonder what she is saying.
I like you better than my mom's old girlfriend.
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I didn't catch it all, but did The BarackStar! say that he had regrets about the schiavo saga?
that's going to piss off all the liberals that wanted to kill her.
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chelsea is whispering to huma in the background . . . . . I wonder what she is saying.
I like you better than my mom's old girlfriend.
:rotf: she smelled like raisins
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the PMSNBC commentators sound a lot like they are calling hillary "bitchy" early in the debate.
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chelsea is whispering to huma in the background . . . . . I wonder what she is saying.
I like you better than my mom's old girlfriend.
:rotf: she smelled like raisins
She looked like this:
WARNING!
(http://exposetheleft.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/janetrenorespect.JPG)
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Obama ads here in Ohio whenever they go to break, LOL.
During the debate I think Hill was flat all night which likely hurt given that she is the candidate w/o any momentum. Man I hope this is the end of the Clintons. :hyper:
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chelsea is whispering to huma in the background . . . . . I wonder what she is saying.
I like you better than my mom's old girlfriend.
:rotf: she smelled like raisins
She looked like this:
WARNING!
http://exposetheleft.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/janetrenorespect.JPG
or this:
(http://fair.weru.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/helen_thomas.jpg)
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the PMSNBC commentators sound a lot like they are calling hillary "bitchy" early in the debate.
Yes, that's exactly what they're saying.
Rearden: Yes, this looks like the end of the Clintons. She won't run again.
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Obama ads here in Ohio whenever they go to break, LOL.
During the debate I think Hill was flat all night which likely hurt given that she is the candidate w/o any momentum. Man I hope this is the end of the Clintons. :hyper:
time or newsweek is speculating that chelsea will jump into politics.
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Obama ads here in Ohio whenever they go to break, LOL.
During the debate I think Hill was flat all night which likely hurt given that she is the candidate w/o any momentum. Man I hope this is the end of the Clintons. :hyper:
time or newsweek is speculating that chelsea will jump into politics.
That would really surprise me.
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Obama ads here in Ohio whenever they go to break, LOL.
During the debate I think Hill was flat all night which likely hurt given that she is the candidate w/o any momentum. Man I hope this is the end of the Clintons. :hyper:
time or newsweek is speculating that chelsea will jump into politics.
That would really surprise me.
I can't find a link . . . I saw it on the Joe Scarborough show on PMSNBC this morning when I was getting ready for work. Someone mentioned that she is making $200K+ working for a hedge fund right now . . .
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the PMSNBC commentators sound a lot like they are calling hillary "bitchy" early in the debate.
Yes, that's exactly what they're saying.
Rearden: Yes, this looks like the end of the Clintons. She won't run again.
:cheersmate:
Chelsea should not be a factor for 20 years, if ever. (I hope) Not that the Dims coulden't throw something worse at us in the meantime.
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oh, jeeez. the guys on PMSNBC are all performing electronic fellatio on The BarackStar! right now.
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Obama ads here in Ohio whenever they go to break, LOL.
During the debate I think Hill was flat all night which likely hurt given that she is the candidate w/o any momentum. Man I hope this is the end of the Clintons. :hyper:
time or newsweek is speculating that chelsea will jump into politics.
That would really surprise me.
I can't find a link . . . I saw it on the Joe Scarborough show on PMSNBC this morning when I was getting ready for work. Someone mentioned that she is making $200K+ working for a hedge fund right now . . .
Yes, I've read that. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15549672/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15549672/)
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the PMSNBC commentators sound a lot like they are calling hillary "bitchy" early in the debate.
Yes, that's exactly what they're saying.
Rearden: Yes, this looks like the end of the Clintons. She won't run again.
:cheersmate:
Chelsea should not be a factor for 20 years, if ever. (I hope) Not that the Dims coulden't throw something worse at us in the meantime.
she is 28, so you are probably right. or that is what they said this morning. it was an extended topic of conversation.
david wilhem, the former bill clinton campaign manager, is literally on his knees right now before The BarackStar!
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Obama ads here in Ohio whenever they go to break, LOL.
During the debate I think Hill was flat all night which likely hurt given that she is the candidate w/o any momentum. Man I hope this is the end of the Clintons. :hyper:
time or newsweek is speculating that chelsea will jump into politics.
That would really surprise me.
I can't find a link . . . I saw it on the Joe Scarborough show on PMSNBC this morning when I was getting ready for work. Someone mentioned that she is making $200K+ working for a hedge fund right now . . .
Yes, I've read that. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15549672/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15549672/)
yikes. give that beast an apple.
(http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Video/061103/c_otm_chelseaclinton_061103.300w.jpg)
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Obama ads here in Ohio whenever they go to break, LOL.
During the debate I think Hill was flat all night which likely hurt given that she is the candidate w/o any momentum. Man I hope this is the end of the Clintons. :hyper:
time or newsweek is speculating that chelsea will jump into politics.
That would really surprise me.
I can't find a link . . . I saw it on the Joe Scarborough show on PMSNBC this morning when I was getting ready for work. Someone mentioned that she is making $200K+ working for a hedge fund right now . . .
Yes, I've read that. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15549672/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15549672/)
yikes. give that beast an apple.
(http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Video/061103/c_otm_chelseaclinton_061103.300w.jpg)
She looks better now
(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/the_day_after_tomorrow/chelsea_clinton/daypres.jpg)
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she is 28, so you are probably right. or that is what they said this morning. it was an extended topic of conversation.
david wilhem, the former bill clinton campaign manager, is literally on his knees right now before The BarackStar!
Do you think she would even consider it? I don't know much about her, but she doesn't seem like the political fiends her parents are.
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Obama ads here in Ohio whenever they go to break, LOL.
During the debate I think Hill was flat all night which likely hurt given that she is the candidate w/o any momentum. Man I hope this is the end of the Clintons. :hyper:
time or newsweek is speculating that chelsea will jump into politics.
That would really surprise me.
I can't find a link . . . I saw it on the Joe Scarborough show on PMSNBC this morning when I was getting ready for work. Someone mentioned that she is making $200K+ working for a hedge fund right now . . .
Yes, I've read that. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15549672/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15549672/)
yikes. give that beast an apple.
(http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Video/061103/c_otm_chelseaclinton_061103.300w.jpg)
She looks better now
(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/the_day_after_tomorrow/chelsea_clinton/daypres.jpg)
I know. I ran into her, well, I ran into her retinue of security and local media, when she was campaigning in my favorite lunch place just before the SC primary.
she is hawt.
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She looks better now
(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/the_day_after_tomorrow/chelsea_clinton/daypres.jpg)
A good plastic surgeon can work miracles. :-)
If I didn't know who her parents were, I'd say she was somewhat attractive. However... :hammer:
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the PMSNBC commentators sound a lot like they are calling hillary "bitchy" early in the debate.
Yes, that's exactly what they're saying.
Rearden: Yes, this looks like the end of the Clintons. She won't run again.
:cheersmate:
Chelsea should not be a factor for 20 years, if ever. (I hope) Not that the Dims coulden't throw something worse at us in the meantime.
she is 28, so you are probably right. or that is what they said this morning. it was an extended topic of conversation.
david wilhem, the former bill clinton campaign manager, is literally on his knees right now before The BarackStar!
Local media in Cincy is doing the same. Saying Obama "won big on national security" of all things. sheesh!
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she is 28, so you are probably right. or that is what they said this morning. it was an extended topic of conversation.
david wilhem, the former bill clinton campaign manager, is literally on his knees right now before The BarackStar!
Do you think she would even consider it? I don't know much about her, but she doesn't seem like the political fiends her parents are.
I don't know; she seemed remarkably normal in person. but you can never tell. nature, nurture, it doesn't matter, this chick has probably got politics oozing out of her pores.
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she is 28, so you are probably right. or that is what they said this morning. it was an extended topic of conversation.
david wilhem, the former bill clinton campaign manager, is literally on his knees right now before The BarackStar!
Do you think she would even consider it? I don't know much about her, but she doesn't seem like the political fiends her parents are.
I don't think so Chris. Seriously after being raised by Bill and Hillary should repel Chelsea from politics.
Plus, though she's been campaigning for her mom, she really stays out of the spotlight.
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the PMSNBC commentators sound a lot like they are calling hillary "bitchy" early in the debate.
Yes, that's exactly what they're saying.
Rearden: Yes, this looks like the end of the Clintons. She won't run again.
:cheersmate:
Chelsea should not be a factor for 20 years, if ever. (I hope) Not that the Dims coulden't throw something worse at us in the meantime.
she is 28, so you are probably right. or that is what they said this morning. it was an extended topic of conversation.
david wilhem, the former bill clinton campaign manager, is literally on his knees right now before The BarackStar!
Local media in Cincy is doing the same. Saying Obama "won big on national security" of all things. sheesh!
because he didn't make a mistake on foreign policy? he ducked the Medvedev question, and he went second, for crying out loud.
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chris mattews is interviewing jesse jackson. I had nearly forgotten who he was.
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I wonder who wrote the "you voted to drive the bus into the ditch" one-liner for The BarackStar!?
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the PMSNBC commentators sound a lot like they are calling hillary "bitchy" early in the debate.
Yes, that's exactly what they're saying.
Rearden: Yes, this looks like the end of the Clintons. She won't run again.
:cheersmate:
Chelsea should not be a factor for 20 years, if ever. (I hope) Not that the Dims coulden't throw something worse at us in the meantime.
she is 28, so you are probably right. or that is what they said this morning. it was an extended topic of conversation.
david wilhem, the former bill clinton campaign manager, is literally on his knees right now before The BarackStar!
Local media in Cincy is doing the same. Saying Obama "won big on national security" of all things. sheesh!
because he didn't make a mistake on foreign policy? he ducked the Medvedev question, and he went second, for crying out loud.
Now don't get technical WE. They can FEEL when someone is winning a debate. :p
God knows why they said it? The "more troops to Afghanistan" thing or the "bomb the terrorist in Pakistan" thing maybe? Dunno. My take is they both lost on foreign policy tonight.
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the PMSNBC commentators sound a lot like they are calling hillary "bitchy" early in the debate.
Yes, that's exactly what they're saying.
Rearden: Yes, this looks like the end of the Clintons. She won't run again.
:cheersmate:
Chelsea should not be a factor for 20 years, if ever. (I hope) Not that the Dims coulden't throw something worse at us in the meantime.
she is 28, so you are probably right. or that is what they said this morning. it was an extended topic of conversation.
david wilhem, the former bill clinton campaign manager, is literally on his knees right now before The BarackStar!
Local media in Cincy is doing the same. Saying Obama "won big on national security" of all things. sheesh!
because he didn't make a mistake on foreign policy? he ducked the Medvedev question, and he went second, for crying out loud.
Now don't get technical WE. They can FEEL when someone is winning a debate. :p
God knows why they said it? The "more troops to Afghanistan" thing or the "bomb the terrorist in Pakistan" thing maybe? Dunno. My take is they both lost on foreign policy tonight.
we'll see how he does against mccain.
I saw a cool factoid someplace; when The BarackStar! was in muslim school in indonesia, where he claims that he learned about foreign relations by living in foreign countriues, john mccain was also living in asia. he was a prisoner of war, residing in the hanoi hilton.
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the PMSNBC commentators sound a lot like they are calling hillary "bitchy" early in the debate.
Yes, that's exactly what they're saying.
Rearden: Yes, this looks like the end of the Clintons. She won't run again.
:cheersmate:
Chelsea should not be a factor for 20 years, if ever. (I hope) Not that the Dims coulden't throw something worse at us in the meantime.
she is 28, so you are probably right. or that is what they said this morning. it was an extended topic of conversation.
david wilhem, the former bill clinton campaign manager, is literally on his knees right now before The BarackStar!
Local media in Cincy is doing the same. Saying Obama "won big on national security" of all things. sheesh!
because he didn't make a mistake on foreign policy? he ducked the Medvedev question, and he went second, for crying out loud.
Now don't get technical WE. They can FEEL when someone is winning a debate. :p
God knows why they said it? The "more troops to Afghanistan" thing or the "bomb the terrorist in Pakistan" thing maybe? Dunno. My take is they both lost on foreign policy tonight.
we'll see how he does against mccain.
I saw a cool factoid someplace; when The BarackStar! was in muslim school in indonesia, where he claims that he learned about foreign relations by living in foreign countriues, john mccain was also living in asia. he was a prisoner of war, residing in the hanoi hilton.
Makes ya think. I have no big love for McCain but he will wipe the floor with either Dem on foreign policy debates.
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the PMSNBC commentators sound a lot like they are calling hillary "bitchy" early in the debate.
Yes, that's exactly what they're saying.
Rearden: Yes, this looks like the end of the Clintons. She won't run again.
:cheersmate:
Chelsea should not be a factor for 20 years, if ever. (I hope) Not that the Dims coulden't throw something worse at us in the meantime.
she is 28, so you are probably right. or that is what they said this morning. it was an extended topic of conversation.
david wilhem, the former bill clinton campaign manager, is literally on his knees right now before The BarackStar!
Local media in Cincy is doing the same. Saying Obama "won big on national security" of all things. sheesh!
because he didn't make a mistake on foreign policy? he ducked the Medvedev question, and he went second, for crying out loud.
Now don't get technical WE. They can FEEL when someone is winning a debate. :p
God knows why they said it? The "more troops to Afghanistan" thing or the "bomb the terrorist in Pakistan" thing maybe? Dunno. My take is they both lost on foreign policy tonight.
we'll see how he does against mccain.
I saw a cool factoid someplace; when The BarackStar! was in muslim school in indonesia, where he claims that he learned about foreign relations by living in foreign countriues, john mccain was also living in asia. he was a prisoner of war, residing in the hanoi hilton.
Makes ya think. I have no big love for McCain but he will wipe the floor with either Dem on foreign policy debates.
just another observation, but ironically enough, the success in iraq could work against us in the general. the safer iraq is, the less insane it seems to put a total neophyte in the white house.
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a chick on PMSNBC just said that african americans aren't (or at least weren't, which opens an entirely different line of questioning) voting for The BarackStar! because he is african american.
michelle bernard, I believe her name is.
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They're fighting on DU about the denounce vs reject thingy. The hard core Hillbots say Hillary called him on it and totally won that exchange. While every person with an actual brain is saying she didn't.
LOL :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I love debate nights.
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They're fighting on DU about the denounce vs reject thingy. The hard core Hillbots say Hillary called him on it and totally won that exchange. While every person with an actual brain is saying she didn't.
LOL :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I love debate nights.
she painstakingly set him up as being soft on farrakhan. he basically said, "fine, have it your way. whatever."
the point, both stylistically and substantively went to The BarackStar! on that one . . . BIG.
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They're fighting on DU about the denounce vs reject thingy. The hard core Hillbots say Hillary called him on it and totally won that exchange. While every person with an actual brain is saying she didn't.
LOL :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I love debate nights.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm now ten minutes dumber. :tongue:
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I didn't catch it all, but did The BarackStar! say that he had regrets about the schiavo saga?
that's going to piss off all the liberals that wanted to kill her.
I think I got that backwards. I believe I heard on the scarborough show this morning that he regretted not doing something to prevent the senate from intervening in the first place.
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They're fighting on DU about the denounce vs reject thingy. The hard core Hillbots say Hillary called him on it and totally won that exchange. While every person with an actual brain is saying she didn't.
LOL :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I love debate nights.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm now ten minutes dumber. :tongue:
It took you 10 minutes to read that post?!?! :o
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My brother lives in OH. I told him he should vote for HRC. If she can stay in, we get to watch them fight for a couple more weeks.
:popcorn: