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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2008 => Topic started by: Chris on November 02, 2008, 11:35:58 AM
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(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4839/johnkerrycampaignzp1.jpg)
President Kerry's victory night, on November 5, 2004
On Nov. 2, 2004, just before Election Day in the Presidential election, Zogby predicted that Kerry would get 311 electorial votes and Bush would get only 213.
Electoral Votes:
Bush 213
Kerry 311
To Close To Call Nevada (5)
To Close To Call Colorado (9)
Zogby's final 2004 poll (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1266944/posts)
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And Kerry lost with 95% of the Dem vote. I swear this is a referendum on Obama, he knows it and he has not closed the sale.... we are going to win!
LOL.... I am having a bi-political swing this AM.
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LOL.... I am having a bi-political swing this AM.
I don't know what that means, but is sounds like it needs to be filmed. :naughty:
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I don't know what that means, but is sounds like it needs to be filmed. :naughty:
No, not so kinky as it is a reflection of my mental state. It was supposed to be a pun on bi-polar, but it sort of fell flat. :uhsure: :lmao:
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My only concern is that Kerry didn't motivate voters the way Barrack has. Also, Kerry didn't promise handouts to the unemployed. Barrack has.
Turnout will be historical this election day if early voting is any indicator. Both sides are mobilized though so we do have a fighting chance.
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My only concern is that Kerry didn't motivate voters the way Barrack has. Also, Kerry didn't promise handouts to the unemployed. Barrack has.
Turnout will be historical this election day if early voting is any indicator. Both sides are mobilized though so we do have a fighting chance.
We'll have to see if they are more motivated to vote for a handout than they are to go look for a job. Maybe they are. I worry about the absentee ballot where well meaning groups such as acorn do the busy work of filling out the ballot for them - it's just too much to ask of a person who is too busy looking for handouts.
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I've seen several sources indicate that undecided are breaking McCain anywhere from 3-1 to 4-1.
Paladin0
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I've seen several sources indicate that undecided are breaking McCain anywhere from 3-1 to 4-1.
Paladin0
That would be good news.
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Zogby's current poll:
Obama 286
McCain 174
Not Sure 78
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That would be good news. There are enough undecideds to unquestionably flip this election.
The Democrats flooded the early voting with their voters, now we need to do the same election day. I wounder if the democrats aren't planning on some election day violence to keep people from the polls, knowing they've front loaded all their votes.
Paladin0
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Zogby's current poll:
Obama 286
McCain 174
Not Sure 78
So McCain is in the lead and will win. Good.
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The Democrats flooded the early voting with their voters, now we need to do the same election day. I wounder if the democrats aren't planning on some election day violence to keep people from the polls, knowing they've front loaded all their votes.
Oh, I'm sure they are.
I give you, for example, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, the "Proud2BLib" primitive; I'm sure that her pal over the river in Missouri who deliberately caused problems there a couple of months ago, is going to try to obstruct decent and civilized people from voting.
No doubt about it.
It's going to be a sorry day for America when the National Guard and law-enforcement have to protect people trying to vote.
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My town is actually split...wherever you see an Obama sign, you will see a McCain sign behind it or in front of it. The Obamasheep give the perception that it's over. But far from it...Conservatives are just more...well conservative about disclosing their preferred candidate...we just show up on Election Day.
My county, Palm Beach, is split...my neighbors, moslty transplanted jewish new yorkers are fiercely for McCain..the younger generation,with the exception of a few like me, and maybe closet republicans are for Obama.
Central and Northern Florida are conservative with the exception of a few ghetto pockets who will vote for Obama, obviously...I doubt most will turn out on Tuesday.
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I'm from Ohio and my vote has had quite a few obstacles in front of it. For starters, I mailed in my request for an absentee ballot and never got it. Then last week I brought a load down to Orlando, figuring I would make the delivery, hang out for the weekend, and then find something back to Ohio the next day. Then my van decide to rid itself of the serpentine belt while I was driving and the belt got would up in other parts of the engine and did all sorts of wonderful damage. One of the parts needed to fix it needed to be ordered and was going to arrive on Friday. The part did arrive on Friday afternoon, but the dealer told me that it was going to be Saturday morning before it got fixed. I was back at the dealer yesterday morning and wouldn't you know it, everything was fixed and they found another problem that can't be fixed until tomorrow afternoon because it was another part that had to be ordered. So now I'm looking at leaving Orlando tomorrow afternoon and driving straight through to Cincinnati just so I can get to the polls on Tuesday. If it gets delayed tomorrow, I'm going to start wondering if there isn't some Democrat at Chrysler who is trying to keep me from getting to Ohio on time. I tell you, someone is suppressing the white vote. :-)
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My town is actually split...wherever you see an Obama sign, you will see a McCain sign behind it or in front of it. The Obamasheep give the perception that it's over. But far from it...Conservatives are just more...well conservative about disclosing their preferred candidate...we just show up on Election Day.
My county, Palm Beach, is split...my neighbors, moslty transplanted jewish new yorkers are fiercely for McCain..the younger generation,with the exception of a few like me, and maybe closet republicans are for Obama.
Central and Northern Florida are conservative with the exception of a few ghetto pockets who will vote for Obama, obviously...I doubt most will turn out on Tuesday.
In my town, it's pretty divided. Only about 6500 there and most of the houses around here are anywhere between 200K and 1 million. In the city next door however (population 130K) Obama signs are winning by a tad, but mostly in the poorer areas where you see people going to sell their plasma for cigarette and booze money.
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Rove was just on Fox. He basically stated the spread in polls these past few days will make it "too difficult" to pull off a win. :whatever: What's his f'in problem?? :censored:
He's been negative on a McCain win for months now...even with his stupid whiteboards, always handing battleground states to Obama. :wtf3: McCain HAS the momentum in his favor now, in the last few days, it's getting closer...and I'm optimistic enough to believe he will take it.
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Rove was just on Fox. He basically stated the spread in polls these past few days will make it "too difficult" to pull off a win. :whatever: What's his f'in problem?? :censored:
He's been negative on a McCain win for months now...even with his stupid whiteboards, always handing battleground states to Obama. :wtf3: McCain HAS the momentum in his favor now, in the last few days, it's getting closer...and I'm optimistic enough to believe he will take it.
Political ploy to get the democrats to stay home since they are being told Obama has it in the bag?
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LOL.... I am having a bi-political swing this AM.
Face it, you're just "Bi"...... :-)
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Face it, you're just "Bi"...... :-)
Admit it, it's a turn on. :evillaugh:
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Admit it, it's a turn on. :evillaugh:
For you..................oh yeah
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For you..................oh yeah
i am no Rachel Maddow :popcorn:
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i am no Rachel Maddow :popcorn:
Don't we just know it.
:naughty:
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No, not so kinky as it is a reflection of my mental state. It was supposed to be a pun on bi-polar, but it sort of fell flat. :uhsure: :lmao:
most of the men on this board see "bi" anywhere and start drooling
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Don't we just know it.
:naughty:
I am more girly. :-) Sheesh, look at me. I am shamelessly turning a serious political thread into a thread showcasing my sexual nature. :evillaugh:
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I am more girly. :-) Sheesh, look at me. I am shamelessly turning a serious political thread into a thread showcasing my sexual nature. :evillaugh:
Ain't a thing wrong with your sexual nature.
:-)
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Ain't a thing wrong with your sexual nature.
:-)
I think we could all use a diversion.
So who around here has a hanging chad? :popcorn:
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I think Rove has the same problem I do. He just doesn't like McCain much.
Back in January, I don't remember anyone on the conservative boards having much nice to say about him. Fred Thompson was the man for most of us.
McCain is still in the same emotional place for most of us as eat your beans for dinner, or dont sit down for breakfast.
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I think Rove has the same problem I do. He just doesn't like McCain much.
Back in January, I don't remember anyone on the conservative boards having much nice to say about him. Fred Thompson was the man for most of us.
McCain is still in the same emotional place for most of us as eat your beans for dinner, or dont sit down for breakfast.
McCain wasn't my number 1 either, but it's who we got and the alternative is worse. I've yo-yo'd too this election season...but after listening to Mark Levin, I decided to back McCain.
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I think we could all use a diversion.
So who around here has a hanging chad? :popcorn:
Mine hangs a bit to the right. :evillaugh:
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McCain wasn't my number 1 either, but it's who we got and the alternative is worse. I've yo-yo'd too this election season...but after listening to Mark Levin, I decided to back McCain.
I would have much preferred Thompson over Mccain as our candidate. But Mccain won the primary and he is leaps and bounds better than his opponent. There was a time when I swore up and down I would not vote for Mccain if he won the primary, but then reality set in and I realized it was either vote for Mccain, stay home, or waste my vote on a third party candidate. The last two are as good as a vote for Obama.
So I figuratively held my nose and voted for Mccain on my absentee ballot.
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McCain wasn't my number 1 either, but it's who we got and the alternative is worse. I've yo-yo'd too this election season...but after listening to Mark Levin, I decided to back McCain.
So did I, hoping and praying that he'd put a conservative like Palin up for his VP. I thought that she'd be a longshot . . . and then McCain proved us all wrong by picking her. That sealed it.
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Rove was just on Fox. He basically stated the spread in polls these past few days will make it "too difficult" to pull off a win. :whatever: What's his f'in problem?? :censored:
He's been negative on a McCain win for months now...even with his stupid whiteboards, always handing battleground states to Obama. :wtf3: McCain HAS the momentum in his favor now, in the last few days, it's getting closer...and I'm optimistic enough to believe he will take it.
I agree with you about Rove. I can't understand why he uses that electoral map that is several weeks old. He states that and says the map is what it is. Even the Fox all stars, Barnes and Kristol have given up on McCain. Is it a ploy? I hope you are right about McCain taking it. I get this feeling deep down that he will, but it is soon overshadowed by an Obama victory....that is all we see everywhere.
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The polling data has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.
Bush was up 20.5 points in 2004 in Montana and it's a tossup for McCain? Bite Me! There are many other solid Bush states that are sitting in the tossup category or Obama is sitting with a comfortable lead. I tell you, if MN goes to McCain the way the Survey USA poll is trending, it's going to be one sweet night for the GOP. :-)
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I agree with you about Rove. I can't understand why he uses that electoral map that is several weeks old. He states that and says the map is what it is. Even the Fox all stars, Barnes and Kristol have given up on McCain. Is it a ploy? I hope you are right about McCain taking it. I get this feeling deep down that he will, but it is soon overshadowed by an Obama victory....that is all we see everywhere.
If it is a ploy, it's working with people like me. I've been stuck down here in Orlando with a broken down vehicle and I've been told that it will be fixed by this afternoon. I will then be driving straight through to Cincinnati to get to the polls in time. In past elections I didn't feel this urgency to get there and cast my ballot. I'm hoping other right minded folks feel the same way. Two things have me feeling this way, besides Obama's obvious shortcomings. The closeness and importance of Ohio. The entire election could ride on my home state and it could come down to just a few votes. We can't afford to have anyone sit this one out. The second thing was a post on a pro life website yesterday. One of the abortion supporters on there started a gloat thread for Obama supporters and one of the posts in that thread said, "If Obama wins and gets to appoint at least two judges, then Roe is safe for 30 more years. Take that!" That really drove home the importance to me. Not that I didn't know that already, but when I started thinking of Obama appointing 2 or 3 young liberal judges, I shuddered. The way everything goes to the courts these days, who wins this election has ramifications for the direction of this country over the next 3 or 4 decades. Come hell or high water, I will be in Cincinnati tomorrow, even if my van doesn't get ready and I have to take a plane or a rental car.
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Great post, CharlesD!!!!! Here's to safe and on time travel!!!!!! Bless you!!!!
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CharlesD....drive safely!!!!
I've been wondering if Rove and Morris haven't been a bit overly negative for the simple reason to subliminally get people to realize that Obama will win if the Republicans and Independents don't go vote.
It isn't just an issue of voting for McCain because one likes him and that he is the Republican candidate....it is also important to remember that every vote for McCain is also a vote against Obama.
For some, it may be more important to vote against Obama....regardless of their opinion of McCain.
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CharlesD....drive safely!!!!
I've been wondering if Rove and Morris haven't been a bit overly negative for the simple reason to subliminally get people to realize that Obama will win if the Republicans and Independents don't go vote.
It isn't just an issue of voting for McCain because one likes him and that he is the Republican candidate....it is also important to remember that every vote for McCain is also a vote against Obama.
For some, it may be more important to vote against Obama....regardless of their opinion of McCain.
The hell with it....................every vote for McCain is a vote for the Supreme Court
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I remember they said that Bush would win the popular votes, but Gore would win in the electoral college. The reverse happened in 2000.