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Offline Schadenfreude

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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby)
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2008, 08:40:19 PM »
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So who around here has a hanging chad?  :popcorn:
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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2008, 08:47:18 PM »
I think Rove has the same problem I do.  He just doesn't like McCain much. 

Back in January, I don't remember anyone on the conservative boards having much nice to say about him.   Fred Thompson was the man for most of us.   

McCain is still in the same emotional place for most of us as eat your beans for dinner, or dont sit down for breakfast.


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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2008, 08:59:28 PM »
Quote from: Baruch Menachem on November 02, 2008, 08:47:18 PM
I think Rove has the same problem I do.  He just doesn't like McCain much. 

Back in January, I don't remember anyone on the conservative boards having much nice to say about him.   Fred Thompson was the man for most of us.   

McCain is still in the same emotional place for most of us as eat your beans for dinner, or dont sit down for breakfast.




McCain wasn't my number 1 either, but it's who we got and the alternative is worse.  I've yo-yo'd too this election season...but after listening to Mark Levin, I decided to back McCain.
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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby)
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2008, 09:06:37 PM »
Quote from: Schadenfreude on November 02, 2008, 08:40:19 PM
I think we could all use a diversion.

So who around here has a hanging chad?  :popcorn:

Mine hangs a bit to the right.    :evillaugh:
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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2008, 09:11:11 PM »
Quote from: Hawkgirl on November 02, 2008, 08:59:28 PM
McCain wasn't my number 1 either, but it's who we got and the alternative is worse.  I've yo-yo'd too this election season...but after listening to Mark Levin, I decided to back McCain.

I would have much preferred Thompson over Mccain as our candidate.  But Mccain won the primary and he is leaps and bounds better than his opponent.  There was a time when I swore up and down I would not vote for Mccain if he won the primary, but then reality set in and I realized it was either vote for Mccain, stay home, or waste my vote on a third party candidate.  The last two are as good as a vote for Obama.

So I figuratively held my nose and voted for Mccain on my absentee ballot.
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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2008, 04:36:05 AM »
Quote from: Hawkgirl on November 02, 2008, 08:59:28 PM
McCain wasn't my number 1 either, but it's who we got and the alternative is worse.  I've yo-yo'd too this election season...but after listening to Mark Levin, I decided to back McCain.

So did I, hoping and praying that he'd put a conservative like Palin up for his VP.  I thought that she'd be a longshot . . . and then McCain proved us all wrong by picking her.  That sealed it.
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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby)
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2008, 07:10:38 AM »
Quote from: Hawkgirl on November 02, 2008, 05:48:13 PM
Rove was just on Fox.  He basically stated the spread in polls these past few days will make it "too difficult" to pull off a win. :whatever:  What's his f'in problem?? :censored:
He's been negative on a McCain win for months now...even with his stupid whiteboards, always handing battleground states to Obama. :wtf3:  McCain HAS the momentum in his favor now, in the last few days, it's getting closer...and I'm optimistic enough to believe he will take it.

I agree with you about Rove.  I can't understand why he uses that electoral map that is several weeks old.  He states that and says the map is what it is.  Even the Fox all stars, Barnes and Kristol have given up on McCain.  Is it a ploy?  I hope you are right about McCain taking it.  I get this feeling deep down that he will, but it is soon overshadowed by an Obama victory....that is all we see everywhere.
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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby)
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2008, 07:19:59 AM »
The polling data has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.

Bush was up 20.5 points in 2004 in Montana and it's a tossup for McCain? Bite Me! There are many other solid Bush states that are sitting in the tossup category or Obama is sitting with a comfortable lead. I tell you, if MN goes to McCain the way the Survey USA poll is trending, it's going to be one sweet night for the GOP.  :-)
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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby)
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2008, 08:17:04 AM »
Quote from: EaglesWings on November 03, 2008, 07:10:38 AM
I agree with you about Rove.  I can't understand why he uses that electoral map that is several weeks old.  He states that and says the map is what it is.  Even the Fox all stars, Barnes and Kristol have given up on McCain.  Is it a ploy?  I hope you are right about McCain taking it.  I get this feeling deep down that he will, but it is soon overshadowed by an Obama victory....that is all we see everywhere.

If it is a ploy, it's working with people like me.  I've been stuck down here in Orlando with a broken down vehicle and I've been told that it will be fixed by this afternoon.  I will then be driving straight through to Cincinnati to get to the polls in time.  In past elections I didn't feel this urgency to get there and cast my ballot.  I'm hoping other right minded folks feel the same way.  Two things have me feeling this way, besides Obama's obvious shortcomings.  The closeness and importance of Ohio.  The entire election could ride on my home state and it could come down to just a few votes.  We can't afford to have anyone sit this one out.  The second thing was a post on a pro life website yesterday.  One of the abortion supporters on there started a gloat thread for Obama supporters and one of the posts in that thread said, "If Obama wins and gets to appoint at least two judges, then Roe is safe for 30 more years.  Take that!"  That really drove home the importance to me.  Not that I didn't know that already, but when I started thinking of Obama appointing 2 or 3 young liberal judges, I shuddered.  The way everything goes to the courts these days, who wins this election has ramifications for the direction of this country over the next 3 or 4 decades.  Come hell or high water, I will be in Cincinnati tomorrow, even if my van doesn't get ready and I have to take a plane or a rental car. 
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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby)
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2008, 11:45:24 AM »
Great post, CharlesD!!!!!  Here's to safe and on time travel!!!!!!  Bless you!!!!
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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby)
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2008, 08:35:05 PM »
CharlesD....drive safely!!!!


I've been wondering if Rove and Morris haven't been a bit overly negative for the simple reason to subliminally get people to realize that Obama will win if the Republicans and Independents don't go vote.

It isn't just an issue of voting for McCain because one likes him and that he is the Republican candidate....it is also important to remember that every vote for McCain is also a vote against Obama.

For some, it may be more important to vote against Obama....regardless of their opinion of McCain.

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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby)
« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2008, 08:47:46 PM »
Quote from: debk on November 03, 2008, 08:35:05 PM
CharlesD....drive safely!!!!


I've been wondering if Rove and Morris haven't been a bit overly negative for the simple reason to subliminally get people to realize that Obama will win if the Republicans and Independents don't go vote.

It isn't just an issue of voting for McCain because one likes him and that he is the Republican candidate....it is also important to remember that every vote for McCain is also a vote against Obama.

For some, it may be more important to vote against Obama....regardless of their opinion of McCain.



The hell with it....................every vote for McCain is a vote for the Supreme Court
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Re: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby)
« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2008, 10:46:20 PM »
I remember they said that Bush would win the popular votes, but Gore would win in the electoral college. The reverse happened in 2000.
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