Author Topic: November 2, 2004: President Kerry is elected with 311 electoral votes (Zogby) (Read 11840 times)

Chris · « **on:** November 02, 2008, 11:35:58 AM »

President Kerry's victory night, on November 5, 2004

On Nov. 2, 2004, just before Election Day in the Presidential election, Zogby predicted that Kerry would get 311 electorial votes and Bush would get only 213.

Electoral Votes:

Bush 213

Kerry 311

To Close To Call Nevada (5)

To Close To Call Colorado (9)

Zogby's final 2004 poll

Schadenfreude · « **Reply #1 on:** November 02, 2008, 11:42:13 AM »

And Kerry lost with 95% of the Dem vote. I swear this is a referendum on Obama, he knows it and he has not closed the sale.... we are going to win!

LOL.... I am having a bi-political swing this AM.

miskie · « **Reply #2 on:** November 02, 2008, 11:43:49 AM »

Quote from: Schadenfreude on November 02, 2008, 11:42:13 AM

LOL.... I am having a bi-political swing this AM.

I don't know what that means, but is sounds like it needs to be filmed.

Schadenfreude · « **Reply #3 on:** November 02, 2008, 11:46:22 AM »

Quote from: miskie on November 02, 2008, 11:43:49 AM

I don't know what that means, but is sounds like it needs to be filmed.

No, not so kinky as it is a reflection of my mental state. It was supposed to be a pun on bi-polar, but it sort of fell flat.

Hawkgirl · « **Reply #4 on:** November 02, 2008, 12:02:45 PM »

My only concern is that Kerry didn't motivate voters the way Barrack has. Also, Kerry didn't promise handouts to the unemployed. Barrack has.
Turnout will be historical this election day if early voting is any indicator. Both sides are mobilized though so we do have a fighting chance.

Schadenfreude · « **Reply #5 on:** November 02, 2008, 12:17:50 PM »

Quote from: Hawkgirl on November 02, 2008, 12:02:45 PM

My only concern is that Kerry didn't motivate voters the way Barrack has. Also, Kerry didn't promise handouts to the unemployed. Barrack has.
Turnout will be historical this election day if early voting is any indicator. Both sides are mobilized though so we do have a fighting chance.

We'll have to see if they are more motivated to vote for a handout than they are to go look for a job. Maybe they are. I worry about the absentee ballot where well meaning groups such as acorn do the busy work of filling out the ballot for them - it's just too much to ask of a person who is too busy looking for handouts.

paladin0 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 02, 2008, 01:11:10 PM »

I've seen several sources indicate that undecided are breaking McCain anywhere from 3-1 to 4-1.

Paladin0

Chris · « **Reply #7 on:** November 02, 2008, 01:22:56 PM »

Quote from: paladin0 on November 02, 2008, 01:11:10 PM

I've seen several sources indicate that undecided are breaking McCain anywhere from 3-1 to 4-1.

Paladin0

That would be good news.

Chris · « **Reply #8 on:** November 02, 2008, 01:24:56 PM »

Zogby's current poll:

Obama 286
McCain 174
Not Sure 78

paladin0 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 02, 2008, 01:25:25 PM »

Quote from: Chris on November 02, 2008, 01:22:56 PM

That would be good news. There are enough undecideds to unquestionably flip this election.

The Democrats flooded the early voting with their voters, now we need to do the same election day. I wounder if the democrats aren't planning on some election day violence to keep people from the polls, knowing they've front loaded all their votes.

Paladin0

jinxmchue · « **Reply #10 on:** November 02, 2008, 02:08:24 PM »

Quote from: Chris on November 02, 2008, 01:24:56 PM

Zogby's current poll:

Obama 286
McCain 174
Not Sure 78

So McCain is in the lead and will win. Good.

franksolich · « **Reply #11 on:** November 02, 2008, 05:00:54 PM »

Quote from: paladin0 on November 02, 2008, 01:25:25 PM

The Democrats flooded the early voting with their voters, now we need to do the same election day. I wounder if the democrats aren't planning on some election day violence to keep people from the polls, knowing they've front loaded all their votes.

Oh, I'm sure they are.

I give you, for example, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, the "Proud2BLib" primitive; I'm sure that her pal over the river in Missouri who deliberately caused problems there a couple of months ago, is going to try to obstruct decent and civilized people from voting.

No doubt about it.

It's going to be a sorry day for America when the National Guard and law-enforcement have to protect people trying to vote.

Hawkgirl · « **Reply #12 on:** November 02, 2008, 05:30:17 PM »

My town is actually split...wherever you see an Obama sign, you will see a McCain sign behind it or in front of it. The Obamasheep give the perception that it's over. But far from it...Conservatives are just more...well conservative about disclosing their preferred candidate...we just show up on Election Day.
My county, Palm Beach, is split...my neighbors, moslty transplanted jewish new yorkers are fiercely for McCain..the younger generation,with the exception of a few like me, and maybe closet republicans are for Obama.

Central and Northern Florida are conservative with the exception of a few ghetto pockets who will vote for Obama, obviously...I doubt most will turn out on Tuesday.

CharlesD · « **Reply #13 on:** November 02, 2008, 05:36:35 PM »

I'm from Ohio and my vote has had quite a few obstacles in front of it. For starters, I mailed in my request for an absentee ballot and never got it. Then last week I brought a load down to Orlando, figuring I would make the delivery, hang out for the weekend, and then find something back to Ohio the next day. Then my van decide to rid itself of the serpentine belt while I was driving and the belt got would up in other parts of the engine and did all sorts of wonderful damage. One of the parts needed to fix it needed to be ordered and was going to arrive on Friday. The part did arrive on Friday afternoon, but the dealer told me that it was going to be Saturday morning before it got fixed. I was back at the dealer yesterday morning and wouldn't you know it, everything was fixed and they found another problem that can't be fixed until tomorrow afternoon because it was another part that had to be ordered. So now I'm looking at leaving Orlando tomorrow afternoon and driving straight through to Cincinnati just so I can get to the polls on Tuesday. If it gets delayed tomorrow, I'm going to start wondering if there isn't some Democrat at Chrysler who is trying to keep me from getting to Ohio on time. I tell you, someone is suppressing the white vote.

Atomic Lib Smasher · « **Reply #14 on:** November 02, 2008, 05:45:42 PM »

Quote from: Hawkgirl on November 02, 2008, 05:30:17 PM

My town is actually split...wherever you see an Obama sign, you will see a McCain sign behind it or in front of it. The Obamasheep give the perception that it's over. But far from it...Conservatives are just more...well conservative about disclosing their preferred candidate...we just show up on Election Day.
My county, Palm Beach, is split...my neighbors, moslty transplanted jewish new yorkers are fiercely for McCain..the younger generation,with the exception of a few like me, and maybe closet republicans are for Obama.

Central and Northern Florida are conservative with the exception of a few ghetto pockets who will vote for Obama, obviously...I doubt most will turn out on Tuesday.

In my town, it's pretty divided. Only about 6500 there and most of the houses around here are anywhere between 200K and 1 million. In the city next door however (population 130K) Obama signs are winning by a tad, but mostly in the poorer areas where you see people going to sell their plasma for cigarette and booze money.

Hawkgirl · « **Reply #15 on:** November 02, 2008, 05:48:13 PM »

Rove was just on Fox. He basically stated the spread in polls these past few days will make it "too difficult" to pull off a win.

What's his f'in problem??

He's been negative on a McCain win for months now...even with his stupid whiteboards, always handing battleground states to Obama.

McCain HAS the momentum in his favor now, in the last few days, it's getting closer...and I'm optimistic enough to believe he will take it.

rich_t · « **Reply #16 on:** November 02, 2008, 06:15:07 PM »

Quote from: Hawkgirl on November 02, 2008, 05:48:13 PM

Rove was just on Fox. He basically stated the spread in polls these past few days will make it "too difficult" to pull off a win. What's his f'in problem??
He's been negative on a McCain win for months now...even with his stupid whiteboards, always handing battleground states to Obama. McCain HAS the momentum in his favor now, in the last few days, it's getting closer...and I'm optimistic enough to believe he will take it.

Political ploy to get the democrats to stay home since they are being told Obama has it in the bag?