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Title: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 15, 2008, 06:46:17 PM
"Well boys, I recon this is it!" (toe to toe with the Rooskies)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45TQQtNGBk0[/youtube]
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 06:53:52 PM
Quote
OBAMA CAMPAIGN ISSUES TALKING POINTS TO MEDIA AHEAD OF DEBATE

The Obama campaign issued a set of debate 'talking points' to media on Wednesday morning, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

Press Secretary Sean Smith issued the directive in an email from Pennsylvania, 12 hours before the debate.

The memo oddly mirrors much of the main press analysis and theme of the current campaign:


http://drudgereport.com/flashotp.htm

What are tonight's magic words?  Will all the uh's and um's be accounted for?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 06:55:19 PM
Interesting trivia about that scene...

That movie was originally scheduled for its first test screening on November 22nd, 1963--the day Kennedy was assasinated.  That pushed back the release date from December to January 1964.  And if you look at that scene where Slim Pickens says, "Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff," the original city referenced was Dallas.  Kubrick dubbed the word "Vegas" over the original scene but never reshot it.  If you look at Pickens lips, he definitely says Dallas.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 15, 2008, 07:01:54 PM
What are tonight's magic words?  Will all the uh's and um's be accounted for?

The magic (two drink) word from Obama is, "sacrifice".  (two sips of beer)

The magic (two drink) word(s) from McCain is, "my friends".

Uh's and um's are worth one sip each.

The first CCer to point out an Obama lie can order a fellow drinker to chug for 4 seconds.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 15, 2008, 07:06:20 PM
Interesting trivia about that scene...

That movie was originally scheduled for its first test screening on November 22nd, 1963--the day Kennedy was assasinated.  That pushed back the release date from December to January 1964.  And if you look at that scene where Slim Pickens says, "Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff," the original city referenced was Dallas.  Kubrick dubbed the word "Vegas" over the original scene but never reshot it.  If you look at Pickens lips, he definitely says Dallas.

Good stuff there. It's nice to learn something every day, so thanks for that Sparky. And we sure as Hell are not about to learn a damn thing watching this debate so kudos and H5.  :-)
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 15, 2008, 07:15:29 PM
The magic (two drink) word from Obama is, "sacrifice".  (two sips of beer)

The magic (two drink) word(s) from McCain is, "my friends".

Uh's and um's are worth one sip each.

The first CCer to point out an Obama lie can order a fellow drinker to chug for 4 seconds.

I don't know if I have enough beer on hand.  :-) :-)

On edit- I have at least 45 minutes to stock up. :beer:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Jim on October 15, 2008, 07:17:50 PM
I want McC to have Barry explain that not ALL those "working families" will see all those tax breaks, that some will see nothing. 

I want him to quantify exactly how much of those tax breaks are earned income tax credits going to non-income tax payers.

I want him to have Barry explain this and explain exaactly where those 100,000 families that will see nothing are:

(http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2008/06/12/GR2008061200193.gif)

(hint: earned income tax credits ?  but I don't believe there are that many deadbeats unkless you count illegals)

I want him to make Barry admit he was lying through his teeth about Ayers.

I want him to walk over to Obama the first time he mentions "Bush's failed policies" and ask him if he is aware that Bush is not running.

And I want him to make Barry explain why he voted over and over to kill partially born babies AND thsoe poor souls who managed to escape their parent's attempt to kill them with botched abortions.

Then I want him to have Barry explain why on earth its OK to run up the tab with China for this trillion in new spending when it was a "failed Bush policy" to spend like a drunken sailor.

Then I want him to look at the camera and ask America if it's possible that every respected economist in America is wrong when they say that increasing taxes and increasing government spending in an economic downturn is a disaster of major proportion.

And if Old Bob starts acting up, I want McC to smack the crap out of him like he should have smacked the crap out of Brokaw.

Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 15, 2008, 08:01:18 PM
OK McCain. I'm begging you buddy... DO SOMETHING!  :p

To all of CC....   :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:03:03 PM
Kind of demanding arn't ya Jim
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 15, 2008, 08:03:59 PM
Heh, he pulls out the Nancy Reagan card early.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 08:05:24 PM
You'd better not drink every time you hear the phrase "the last eight years."  You'll be trashed by 9:45.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:05:58 PM
well, good first answer - he needs to take it to Obama, regardless of what Obama campaign has leaked as what they 'fear' McCain will do.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Tucker on October 15, 2008, 08:06:21 PM
I thought the ceiling was 250,000?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 15, 2008, 08:07:45 PM
Yo Joe! (the plumber)

 :-)
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:08:19 PM
Good move McCain - Nail him with The Plumber story,
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:08:33 PM
Oh Mccain is gonna pay for health care............... :thatsright:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 15, 2008, 08:09:07 PM
I thought the ceiling was 250,000?

Yeah, he was not supposed to let that number start creeping down until after he won. (oops)
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:09:55 PM
Oh God, Please give McCain the foresight to hit him with the 95% lie and that almost half pay no taxes
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:10:12 PM
Damn I wish I could get streaming video at work.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:10:35 PM
Most small buisness makes less than 250K.........................BULLSHIT
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:10:54 PM
Good.  He finally slapped BO with the "class warfare" label.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:11:04 PM
Oh God, Please give McCain the foresight to hit him with the 95% lie and that almost half pay no taxes

He won't.  He's too afraid of alienating voters--even stupid ones.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:11:24 PM
Oh God, Please give McCain the foresight to hit him with the 95% lie and that almost half pay no taxes


I've got a lot of marsh land to sell ya
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:11:52 PM
"Exxon Mobil can afford to pay more."

Expect gas to be $5 by January.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:12:08 PM
Most small buisness makes less than 250K.........................BULLSHIT

What an ass--I know people who sell stuff on E-Bay who make more than 250K.  Does Obama really realize how small a business has to be in order to make under that?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:13:17 PM
"Exxon Mobil can afford to pay more."

Expect gas to be $5 by January.

If not soon thereafter.  Does BHO not realize that companies don't pay taxes, they just pass it on to the consumers?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 15, 2008, 08:13:59 PM
I would prefer that no one pays taxes - Obama

That's not gonna sit well with the left.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Tucker on October 15, 2008, 08:15:21 PM
I would prefer that no one pays taxes - Obama

That's not gonna sit well with the left.

They know he's pandering.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:15:27 PM
Barack is dodging the question - Quelle suprise..   :whatever:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:16:14 PM
I would prefer that no one pays taxes - Obama


<cough> bullshit <cough>
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:16:29 PM
I rented "Iron Man" tonight.  I'm about five seconds away from turning this off.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:17:02 PM
I rented "Iron Man" tonight.  I'm about five seconds away from turning this off.


Both of them that bad, eh?  Guess McCain went back on his word about taking it to Obama--AGAIN.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:17:25 PM
McCain just gave Kudos to the PUMAs with his nod to Hillary.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 15, 2008, 08:17:52 PM
I rented "Iron Man" tonight.  I'm about five seconds away from turning this off.


It might be worth it. For your mental health alone.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Odin's Hand on October 15, 2008, 08:18:42 PM
I would prefer that no one pays taxes - Obama

That's not gonna sit well with the left.

I guess he prefers that everyone isn't patriotic as well a la Biden?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 15, 2008, 08:19:30 PM
BO is never going to go through the entire budget line by line. LIAR.  That's what small business people do, not big spending liberals.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:19:41 PM
"Earmarks are one half of one percent of the Federal budget."

And Medicare/Medicaid eats up more than 40%.  Socialized medicine will not work.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:20:05 PM
"You should have run four years ago."

OUCH!  :-)
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:20:28 PM
He finally said it.. He is not President Bush.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 15, 2008, 08:20:56 PM
ZING!!

McCain: If you wanted to run against President Bush, you should have ran 4 years ago!
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Tucker on October 15, 2008, 08:20:57 PM
H5 for McCain. obama should have ran 4 years ago.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CactusCarlos on October 15, 2008, 08:21:04 PM
"You should have run four years ago."

OUCH!  :-)

Rethinking Iron Man?  :-)
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:21:39 PM
Rethinking Iron Man?  :-)

I have a mini work Bouncy.  I'm wondering if I should share it.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:22:03 PM
Oh **** it................though the call out about the party standing up I may choke a few down
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:22:04 PM
Barry's not popular with the teacher's union. 

And my ass smells like a lovely boquet.   :whatever:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Tucker on October 15, 2008, 08:22:46 PM
I have a mini work Bouncy.  I'm wondering if I should share it.

We're all friends here.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:23:13 PM
WTF does the enviro nuts and teachers union have to do with standing up to the Democrat Leadership.................. :hammer:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 08:24:01 PM
Most small buisness makes less than 250K.........................BULLSHIT

Amen.

The problem is that people look at your gross and say, "My you're rich" but you take all those expenses out and it doesn't look so hot.  I don't want my taxes going up because my wife and I both own businesses and our total income makes us look rich.  
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:24:37 PM
Who is this McCain imposter ?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CactusCarlos on October 15, 2008, 08:24:49 PM
I have a mini work Bouncy.  I'm wondering if I should share it.

Please!
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:25:17 PM
I see that again we have a very unbiased moderator for the debate
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:26:03 PM
Had a small business owner call in the other day.  He started off his conversation with "They say Barack Obama is the Messiah.  What do you think?". 

I told him I have no use for a messiah that works for the government*. 


*Not really.  I hemmed and hawed for a moment and then transferred him to the accounting department.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:27:21 PM
Calling Obama a liar - Awesome.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:28:12 PM
"100% of your ads have been negative.  It's true."

Isn't 'negative' a subjective judgement? 
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:28:25 PM
So no the Messiah's making excuses for the BS in his campaign ads :censored:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:29:41 PM
Obama keeps bringing up the last eight years....as if Bush were still running.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:31:51 PM
Obama keeps bringing up the last eight years....as if Bush were still running.

It's his security blanket.  He knows if he can't tie Bush to McCain, he's sunk.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:33:20 PM
Go John Go............................damn
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 15, 2008, 08:33:28 PM
 :yawn: :yawn:

Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:33:49 PM
This not being able to actually WATCH the debate is driving me batshit.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:33:52 PM
Obama should be teaching dance classes.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: WV conservative on October 15, 2008, 08:34:01 PM
He needed to get pissed. And he's there now.


WV C
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:34:09 PM
Obama wants the public to see something other than politics as usual while his accomplicies and compatriots practice exactly that.  Barry's promises are only skin deep.

And he shut him up with the t-shirt factoid.  Dead silence.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:34:40 PM
He needed to get pissed. And he's there now.


WV C


Yup, me thinks it's probably too little too late though :bawl:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:34:47 PM
He just made the one (pbuh) stumble
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:34:51 PM
OBama is not doing well - Im sure he will be declared the winner anyway, but for the first time, Im impressed with McCain.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Splashdown on October 15, 2008, 08:35:05 PM
Obama:

Hummina hummina hummina....  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 15, 2008, 08:35:08 PM
"Ah.. er.. weh... uh, hmmmm. " (good response Barry)
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:35:15 PM
Obama wants the public to see something other than politics as usual while his accomplicies and compatriots practice exactly that.  Barry's promises are only skin deep.

And he shut him up with the t-shirt factoid.  Dead silence.

IOW, his knowledge is the same as his support--a mile wide, and an inch deep.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:35:32 PM
He actually nailed him on the Acorn thing too :popcorn:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:35:36 PM
They're walkin' all over poor Bob Scheiffer.  :lmao:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:35:48 PM
Yup, me thinks it's probably too little too late though :bawl:

Faith my friend....faith.....................and now we have ACORN
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Splashdown on October 15, 2008, 08:35:59 PM
 :hammer:  :hammer:  :hammer: ACORN   :hammer:  :hammer:  :hammer:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:36:05 PM
"I was just a child.  Etc, etc, blah blah blah."
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 15, 2008, 08:36:33 PM
Ayres and ACORN... suck it Barry!  :-)
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:36:39 PM
They're walkin' all over poor Bob Scheiffer.  :lmao:

And why shouldn't they?  This is the proverbial 15th round.  He needs to just stay the hell out of the way and STFU, and just let these two have at it.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:36:57 PM
IOW, his knowledge is the same as his support--a mile wide, and an inch deep.

Barry's gonna bring the south side of Chicago to the executive office.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: WV conservative on October 15, 2008, 08:37:05 PM
I think he is late coming but I don't think it is too late.

Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: SaintLouieWoman on October 15, 2008, 08:37:27 PM
The more I see of Obama, the more I absolutely can't stand him.

McCain is finally showing some fire. Obama is a darker slick Willie. I need to get my punching bag put up in the basement. I need to get out some pent up anger.

That blankety blank is laughing now at McCain's Acorn comments
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:38:04 PM
Like I said earlier - who is this McCain imposter ? whoever it is has BALLS.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:38:22 PM
Barry's gonna bring the south side of Chicago to the executive office.

Oh goody--there's your change--from DC corruption, graft, and greed, to Chicago corruption, graft, and greed.  
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:38:35 PM
The last time Demorats told us character didn't matter, their President ended up getting impeached during a jury trial for sexual harassment.

Don't tell me character doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:38:42 PM
I think he is late coming but I don't think it is too late.



I hope so.  He's been using a muzzle loader against Obama when he should be using a cannon.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:39:50 PM
Obama is a darker slick Willie.

(http://www.newcomicreviews.com/cliches/wacist.gif)
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:40:21 PM
Is Bob going to give every question to ears first?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:40:24 PM
Of course Joe's never forgotten where he came from.  He reminds us in every stump speech he's made for the last thirty-five years.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:40:47 PM
I hope so.  He's been using a muzzle loader against Obama when he should be using a cannon.

That's okay--in the right hands, the muzzleloader is just as deadly and does a lot less collateral damage.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:40:54 PM
Ohh, comparing Biden and Palin..I can't wait for this... :popcorn:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Tucker on October 15, 2008, 08:41:32 PM
Tell America that Biden was a Sen. when McCain was a POW. Old time politico. Same O same O.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:41:38 PM
I cant think of the name Biden without immediately thinking Scranton and Home Depot.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:41:46 PM
Of course Joe's never forgotten where he came from.  He reminds us in every stump speech he's made for the last thirty-five years.

And he's after the little man....................remember paying taxes is patriotic..........................Please mcCain bring that up
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:42:00 PM
Can someone explain to me what the hell the Chosen One just said/?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:42:44 PM
Is Bob going to give every question to ears first?

Hey, I'm cool with that--gives McCain a chance to get in the last word and blow away Obama's talking points.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:43:19 PM
I cant think of the name Biden without immediately thinking Scranton and Home Depot.

The only people I know that hang out at Home Depot are illegal aliens looking for work.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:43:56 PM
Can someone explain to me what the hell the Chosen One just said/?

Sorry, did not compute.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 08:44:00 PM
I cant think of the name Biden without immediately thinking Scranton and Home Depot.

And how he still eats at Katie's and talks to all the folks...oh wait...Katie's is closed.  Shit.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:44:15 PM
Why is the liberal answer to everything more spending??
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Carl on October 15, 2008, 08:44:29 PM
Can someone explain to me what the hell the Chosen One just said/?

A whole lot of nothing said in several dozen words.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:45:45 PM
McCain scores a hit, and Bob changes the topic.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 08:48:26 PM
Can someone explain to me what the hell the Chosen One just said/?

You have to be a true disciple. 
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:49:23 PM
Barry's bragging about "since he got to the Senate".  All 147 days of it.   :lmao:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:49:47 PM
Did he just say he believes in free trade?????? :bs:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:50:32 PM
A whole lot of nothing said in several dozen words.

Ok, I was afraid it was just me..
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Carl on October 15, 2008, 08:50:40 PM
"We can`t drill our way out of the problem" but then to say that we have to throw money at things that will never be a solution to our energy needs.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:52:59 PM
Oh ears just lost it on Columbia
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:53:29 PM
He just said he was going to enforce unfair trade agreements :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:53:33 PM
McCain has done fairly well to keep the messiah off message - I hope he has the strength to keep it up.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:53:51 PM
He just said he was going to enforce unfair trade agreements :evillaugh:

I caught that too :D
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:55:04 PM
"We can`t drill our way out of the problem" but then to say that we have to throw money at things that will never be a solution to our energy needs.


McCain has him beat on the subject, but the media will be singing Barry's praises for the rest of the week.  Using oil to generate electricity is a poor idea.  We can eliminate money transfers to unfriendly countries by upgrading our electrical grid/generating capacity.

I think around 15% of our oil use goes toward electricity production.  Shaving 5% off of 49% of our oil use by mandating higher CAFE standards is barking up the wrong tree.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:55:29 PM
Did I understand him right or did the Messiah say he would restrict trade with Countries that didn't allow labor unions?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Schadenfreude on October 15, 2008, 08:55:51 PM
I don't appreciate Obama's guffaws..... and I must say he is guffawing over some pretty serious shit.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Tucker on October 15, 2008, 08:56:02 PM
Here comes the chicken in every pot promise.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:56:13 PM
Obama haz a bouncy. 
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 08:56:26 PM
McCain compares Obama to Hoover...and Bob abruptly changes the subject.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:56:42 PM
Did I understand him right or did the Messiah say he would restrict trade with Countries that didn't allow labor unions?

Im not sure - Obama is falling off message badly - once McCain forces him from the talking points script Obama cant keep up.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 08:57:19 PM
The government's going to make your healthcare less expensive by getting more involved. 

Yeah, right.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 08:58:20 PM
The government's going to make your healthcare less expensive by getting more involved. 

Yeah, right.

Yup, because government interference has worked soooo well in other areas :banghead:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 08:58:24 PM
As an Aside : DU just went kaboom - dead link  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 08:58:57 PM
Okay I believe McCain has taken 2 Viagras and 5 Calis
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Carl on October 15, 2008, 08:59:52 PM
How in the hell is obama going to do all that rubbish?

Gonna tell the John Edwards of the world to eff off?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 09:00:14 PM
"Free stuff!  Get your free stuff here!"

(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-you-have-a-freeloader.jpg)
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:00:41 PM
McCain needs to keep up the pressure Obamas gonna blow
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:01:12 PM
You WILL provide health insurance or else..... :hammer:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Thor on October 15, 2008, 09:01:40 PM
McCain isn't applying ENOUGH pressure........ (but he's doing better than the last two)
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:02:32 PM
Why does it seem like Obama gets unlimited time while McCain keeps getting cut off???
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: ReardenSteel on October 15, 2008, 09:03:56 PM
I don't appreciate Obama's guffaws..... and I must say he is guffawing over some pretty serious shit.

This debate will be harder to spin but they are cherry picking quotes as we type.

Joe the plumber again...

YO JOE!!!  :hyper:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 15, 2008, 09:04:16 PM
McCain has testicles!!lol...I'm impressed tonight.  He's making the rookie look like an idiot.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 09:04:21 PM
He just called him "Senator Government"  :rotf:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:04:30 PM
Senator Government!!! :hyper:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:04:35 PM
LMAO -- Senator Government - PERFECT name for Obama
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 09:04:54 PM
Why does it seem like Obama gets unlimited time while McCain keeps getting cut off???

Because McCain's right?

Can't have that.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 09:05:03 PM
"Senator Government"  I know it was a slip, but it was true.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 15, 2008, 09:05:19 PM
Hi Joe! you're famous!  :blowkiss:  
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Tucker on October 15, 2008, 09:06:19 PM
This debate needs to go three hours. Talk about guns next.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:08:17 PM
Good answer on judgeship McCain - Lets see if Obama copies your answer.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 09:08:49 PM
When is this over?  I'm tired of listening to Obama's blather.  I want to get back to my movie.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:08:52 PM
This debate needs to go three hours. Talk about guns next.

Won't happen, can't have an issue brought up that The Chosen One would be weak on.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 15, 2008, 09:09:23 PM
roe vs wade/abortion card
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 09:09:45 PM
Obama's looking for an "intellecutal" for the Supreme Court like his friend Ayers.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 09:10:21 PM
Abortion is a constitutional right?  I've checked the constitution and I must have missed that one.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: paladin0 on October 15, 2008, 09:11:11 PM
McCain lost the health care part of the debate, if he keeps this up he won't be gaining any ground.

Paladin0
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:11:49 PM
Ha! McCain has just killed Obama on Abortion.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 15, 2008, 09:12:14 PM
Woohoo! McCain brought up Rookie's vote against giving care to a botched abortion!
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 09:13:45 PM
Oh my...like I said, I can't see this--is McCain playing Rope-a-Dope with Obama? 
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 09:14:05 PM
Does it seem like Obama's getting more time to speak, or is it because I have to pay attention to what he's saying so I can actually parse some sort of meaning from his gum-flapping?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 15, 2008, 09:14:18 PM
Oh my...like I said, I can't see this--is McCain playing Rope-a-Dope with Obama? 

Rope a Dope!  yes, that's exactly it.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 15, 2008, 09:14:54 PM
Does it seem like Obama's getting mor time to speak, or is it because I have to pay attention to what he's saying so I can actually parse some sort of meaning from his gum-flapping?
He's getting more air time because his answers are non-sequitors.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 09:15:17 PM
Yes!  The Last Question!  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Airwolf on October 15, 2008, 09:15:48 PM
McCain has testicles!!lol...I'm impressed tonight.  He's making the rookie look like an idiot.


Not hard to do when you are so dependant on your teleprompter
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:16:30 PM
He's getting more air time because his answers are non-sequitors.

indeed -This was a bad debate for Obama - Im sure he will win it though when the focus group will have at least 10% more Dems than Repubs in it. Bank on it.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Chris on October 15, 2008, 09:18:08 PM
Did McCain just call the moderator "Billy"?  :rofl:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 15, 2008, 09:19:35 PM
indeed -This was a bad debate for Obama - Im sure he will win it though when the focus group will have at least 10% more Dems than Repubs in it. Bank on it.

Of course, MSNBC will comment on how old McCain looks and how articulate and handsome Obama is.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 09:19:56 PM
McCain just nailed him on choice and competition in schools.  
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:20:52 PM
Of course, MSNBC will comment on how old McCain looks and how articulate and handsome Obama is.

I did not expect McCain to do that well on education. Nice one - ANd now Barry is back to blaming Bush and NCLB
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 09:23:51 PM
I told ya'll 2 viagra and 3 Cialis will make you debate like Mccain..................................and now a Pit Bull with lipstick will be released for the fatal bite
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:24:41 PM
Small error - McCain confused autism with down syndrome -- the MSM will kill him over it.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: paladin0 on October 15, 2008, 09:25:31 PM
Everyone think McCain won this one?

Paladin0
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:25:46 PM
LMAO - Barry is now making crap up
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 09:26:53 PM
Bad luck on the coin flip.  Obama gets the last word.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:27:13 PM
Everyone think McCain won this one?

Paladin0

Actually, yes, surprisingly enough I do. :o
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Carl on October 15, 2008, 09:27:29 PM
Small error - McCain confused autism with down syndrome -- the MSM will kill him over it.

I took it to mean a disability in general not a specific one.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:27:58 PM
Bad luck on the coin flip.  Obama gets the last word.

"Friends, Romans, countrymen...."
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:28:18 PM
Everyone think McCain won this one?

Paladin0

Hell yeah - but thats not going to be how its gonna play -- I can read it now - 'inarticulate' 'erratic' 'angry' 'rude' 'sarcastic' 'desperate' -- with all the opposite words to describe Barry's performance.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 15, 2008, 09:28:23 PM
Small error - McCain confused autism with down syndrome -- the MSM will kill him over it.

This is not the first time he's done it...and the media ignored it...it will be a losing battle for them if they nip at children with special needs.  It won't be mentioned...
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: paladin0 on October 15, 2008, 09:29:50 PM
Actually, yes, surprisingly enough I do. :o

Think it will make a difference?

Paladin0
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 15, 2008, 09:30:02 PM
Everyone think McCain won this one?

Paladin0

I have to say so.  But as everyone else says here, most of the media will spin it for Obama. :whatever:

Senator Government..... :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:30:14 PM
Bad luck on the coin flip.  Obama gets the last word.

True - but after McCain hit Obama with the Im not Bush comment, it plays hollow and scripted.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: lastparker on October 15, 2008, 09:30:58 PM
I think McCain nailed this..... but how many comments are we going to hear about his blinking, let alone his honest mistakes........ he needs some Visine!
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:31:07 PM
Think it will make a difference?

Paladin0

Probably not.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:31:17 PM
..And DU is still Dead.  :lmao:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 15, 2008, 09:31:46 PM
Think it will make a difference?

Paladin0

Once can only hope.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 15, 2008, 09:32:31 PM
..And DU is still Dead.  :lmao:

The panic room is open:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DUPanicRoom/
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:33:11 PM
I think McCain did a great job on The One's comments on wealth redistribution.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:33:29 PM
This is not the first time he's done it...and the media ignored it...it will be a losing battle for them if they nip at children with special needs.  It won't be mentioned...

I'm not betting on it - The Obots are getting pretty nasty - I would have never imagined the "Sarah Palin Is A 'C'" shirts.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 09:33:46 PM
Think it will make a difference?

Paladin0

Yes do YOU??
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 15, 2008, 09:37:09 PM
Well as a voter who was first against McCain (when he won the primary) then for him, especially after he picked Palin, then against him after he voted for the Bailout...
in the end...
I will
vote
for
McCain.

I like him tonight.  I liked what he said about the spending freeze and about being pro-life and suggesting adoption. In addition, tonight brought out the fool in Obama even more.  So for this voter, he earned it tonight.

Signed,
the Flipflopper... :shucks:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: paladin0 on October 15, 2008, 09:38:24 PM
Yes do YOU??

No, I think he didn't do a good enough job. We have to pray that the market shoots up and Russia makes threatening moves or we'll be facing a total disaster for the next two years.

Paladin0
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 09:42:27 PM
I thought these focus groups are supposed to be undecided voters, but some of them are spewing Obama's talking points.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:43:29 PM
I thought these focus groups are supposed to be undecided voters, but some of them are spewing Obama's talking points.

I was having the same thought.  I seriously doubt whether some, especially the lady in front were really "undecided".
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: rich_t on October 15, 2008, 09:44:32 PM
McCain started out ok, and I loved the way he finally brought up Ayers and ACORN.

I also liked him telling Obama that he isn't Bush.

But over all, I'd call this debate another draw.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Jim on October 15, 2008, 09:46:16 PM
McCain by a mile.  Of course the MSM got their reviews as we all saw on Drudge.

But Barry was never able to repudiate the whole Joe the Plumber thing and I hope that sticks with people.

Barry claims to have offsetting cuts for his trillion in new spending but it'll take at least a hatchet and more likely a chainsaw to do that.  A scalpel aint gonna get it.  I wish McC had brought up what our governor and HUGE Barry fan Timbo Kaine is doing here which is across the boards cuts and no to additional new taxes.  That would have stung.

God please speak to Americans and make them see who is selling the snake oil.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 09:47:24 PM
I thought these focus groups are supposed to be undecided voters, but some of them are spewing Obama's talking points.

Ah, more of CNN's "undecided" plants?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: rich_t on October 15, 2008, 09:48:40 PM
I doubt God pays much attention to American politics Jim.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:49:00 PM
Ah, more of CNN's "undecided" plants?

I was watching Fox..
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Tucker on October 15, 2008, 09:49:09 PM
McCain by a mile.  Of course the MSM got their reviews as we all saw on Drudge.

But Barry was never able to repudiate the whole Joe the Plumber thing and I hope that sticks with people.

Barry claims to have offsetting cuts for his trillion in new spending but it'll take at least a hatchet and more likely a chainsaw to do that.  A scalpel aint gonna get it.  I wish McC had brought up what our governor and HUGE Barry fan Timbo Kaine is doing here which is across the boards cuts and no to additional new taxes.  That would have stung.

God please speak to Americans and make them see who is selling the snake oil.

Willie Horton did so you'll never know.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 09:49:14 PM
Ahh yes, the 'undecided voters' -- Puuh-leeze - Deception and controlling the message is what the Obots are all about.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: rich_t on October 15, 2008, 09:49:39 PM
Ah, more of CNN's "undecided" plants?

Even the so called Fox focus group sounded like a lot of Obama plants.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 09:49:47 PM
No, I think he didn't do a good enough job. We have to pray that the market shoots up and Russia makes threatening moves or we'll be facing a total disaster for the next two years.

Paladin0

Last I checked the President is in for four years......................and in not doing enough of a job......was he supposed to punch Obama to make you think he did enough tonight??
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:50:08 PM
I doubt God pays much attention to American politics Jim.

My ex-MIL thinks BHO is the anti-christ.  Seriously.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 15, 2008, 09:52:40 PM
Even the so called Fox focus group sounded like a lot of Obama plants.

Yeah, I caught that too flipping around. :whatever:  They really must be finding some very Dem-leading "independent" voters.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 15, 2008, 09:54:42 PM
My ex-MIL thinks BHO is the anti-christ.  Seriously.

Hate to say it but sometimes MIL's are right
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 09:54:49 PM
Even the so called Fox focus group sounded like a lot of Obama plants.

Big time, but I did like the one guy who said, "I'm not voting for a great debater.  I'm voting for a president."
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:57:20 PM
Big time, but I did like the one guy who said, "I'm not voting for a great debater.  I'm voting for a president."

Exactly.  The trouble is that McCain not only has to fight Obama's issues, he has to fight Obama's charisma...which he unfortunately has in abundance.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 09:57:46 PM
Hate to say it but sometimes MIL's are right

I'm beginning to suspect she may be right. 
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 09:58:40 PM
Exactly.  The trouble is that McCain not only has to fight Obama's issues, he has to fight Obama's charisma...which he unfortunately has in abundance.

Clinton/Dole all over again.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Tucker on October 15, 2008, 09:59:16 PM
The flies are buzzin at the DUmp again.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: rich_t on October 15, 2008, 10:04:38 PM
My ex-MIL thinks BHO is the anti-christ.  Seriously.

I'm not ready to rule that out yet.

Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 15, 2008, 10:06:17 PM
If McCain can show a 3-point bump in as many days among the more rational polls (sorry NYT) then there is hope.

Unlike McCain's last non-performances I think he has even odds of realizing that bump.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Tucker on October 15, 2008, 10:07:48 PM
If McCain can show a 3-point bump in as many days among the more rational polls (sorry NYT) then there is hope.

Unlike McCain's last non-performances I think he has even odds of realizing that bump.

All the polls are BS. This race is a toss up.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: rich_t on October 15, 2008, 10:08:05 PM
If McCain can show a 3-point bump in as many days among the more rational polls (sorry NYT) then there is hope.

Unlike McCain's last non-performances I think he has even odds of realizing that bump.

We should know within the next 48-72 hours, if there is any bump.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 10:09:44 PM
All the polls are BS. This race is a toss up.

Of course they are - the question is how many sheep are going to fall for it ?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 15, 2008, 10:10:24 PM
We should know within the next 48-72 hours, if there is any bump.
I love a good nail-biter, don't you?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 10:10:37 PM
I was watching Fox..

Lunz.  Gotcha.  They're just as bad.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 15, 2008, 10:11:17 PM
We should know within the next 48-72 hours, if there is any bump.

But the libs think it is over NOW.  There should be no voting. :mental:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 10:11:30 PM
Hillary Clinton was on Fox saying Obama just sealed the deal....I guess there is hope :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 10:12:12 PM
Hillary Clinton was on Fox saying Obama just sealed the deal....I guess there is hope :evillaugh:

Ah yes--nothing like inevitability, is there Hillary?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: delilahmused on October 15, 2008, 10:15:05 PM
Both I and my husband thought McCain did great until the elite media Fox Insiders set us straight. I tend to rely on his judgment as that of an "average" American more than my own. I know I'm a political junkie and a partisan hack...I've had the luxury of sitting down at my computer everyday to "talk shop" as long as the kids were homeschooled, the house was relatively clean, and dinner was on time. He hasn't been able to be as informed as me just because he's had to work for a living. I had to get up when Luntz came on. When he first asked how many supported Obama and NOT ONE raised their hand and then a short time later he asked how many had CHANGED FOR Obama and only about 4 raised their hand and then declaired "Obama won" that was my limit.

I admit it, I'm a one issue voter for the first time in my life. If my oldest was still in the Coast Guard I'd be a 2 issure voter (Coast Guard and Marine). It's irrational and it goes against everything I believe...I think those who think healthcare, global warming, etc. are the defining issue of our times (and thus are unable to see the forest for the trees) and will only vote according to the (leftist) candidate who supports their view are idiots. Yet, here I am voting ONLY for the best commander in chief. I wish I could be more rational but now I'm just scared. Why the hell is it that all the conservative pundits (or supposed conservative) do is bash McCain and praise Obama.

Cindie
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 10:15:34 PM
Pretty good start so far:

{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...

MCCAIN    73% 68,249
OBAMA     25% 23,577
NEITHER     1% 1,322

Total Votes: 93,148
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: SaintLouieWoman on October 15, 2008, 10:17:01 PM
All the polls are BS. This race is a toss up.

I'm hoping that the annointed one gets overconfident. I couldn't stand those smug looks of his while McCain was talking.

The person who almost aggravates me as much as the greyt O is Alan Colmes. What a tool!  :whatever:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 10:20:11 PM
Pretty good start so far:

{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...

MCCAIN    73% 68,249
OBAMA     25% 23,577
NEITHER     1% 1,322

Total Votes: 93,148


If Drudge was a representation of the American people, we'd be looking at a landslide for McCain.  Drudge might be a good representation of sensible Americans, but unfortunately there are a few people who don't fit that description.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: overlord on October 15, 2008, 10:20:37 PM
I'm hoping that the annointed one gets overconfident. I couldn't stand those smug looks of his while McCain was talking.

The person who almost aggravates me as much as the greyt O is Alan Colmes. What a tool!  :whatever:

I always thought he looked like one of the extras for the Night of the Living Dead movies..
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 10:25:22 PM
He still reminds me of Curious George.

I said it before, I'll say it again...

(http://home.nc.rr.com/thebigwhitewolf/fark/images/1wasis.gif)

(do I really need a /sarc tag?)
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: formerlurker on October 15, 2008, 10:25:34 PM
If I said it once, I said it 100 times -- there is no way a man named Barrack Hussein Obama will be voted in as president.   Not while my parents' generation still draws breath.   Sorry, it just isn't happening.

I can honestly say I will be shocked if he wins.    Incredibly concerned and scared for our national security -- but shocked more than anything else.

Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: NHSparky on October 15, 2008, 10:26:38 PM
If I said it once, I said it 100 times -- there is no way a man named Barrack Hussein Obama will be voted in as president.   Not while my parents' generation still draws breath.   Sorry, it just isn't happening.

I can honestly say I will be shocked if he wins.    Incredibly concerned and scared for our national security -- but shocked more than anything else.



Ah, but see--that's why the annoited one will allow no public mention of his name lest his DU minions have you shipped off to the camps.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: miskie on October 15, 2008, 10:31:25 PM
If I said it once, I said it 100 times -- there is no way a man named Barrack Hussein Obama will be voted in as president.   Not while my parents' generation still draws breath.   Sorry, it just isn't happening.

I can honestly say I will be shocked if he wins.    Incredibly concerned and scared for our national security -- but shocked more than anything else.


It all hinges on Fraud & Demoralization - If there is enough , Obama wins.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 15, 2008, 10:33:52 PM
Ah, but see--that's why the annoited one will allow no public mention of his name lest his DU minions have you shipped off to the camps.

I don't normally listen to Michael Savage, but I caught part of his show yesterday.  He suggested that we should call Obama "BHO" or "BO", just like the lib favorites who went by abbreviations.  The Dems would then be furious if we used the "H", because it's just a reminder of his middle name, which of course is racist.  Then we could just call him "BO". :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on October 15, 2008, 10:34:12 PM
If I said it once, I said it 100 times -- there is no way a man named Barrack Hussein Obama will be voted in as president.   Not while my parents' generation still draws breath.   Sorry, it just isn't happening.

I can honestly say I will be shocked if he wins.    Incredibly concerned and scared for our national security -- but shocked more than anything else.




Yeah but ya got a LOT of stupid people that unfortunately, CAN vote in this country (why can't there be an IQ test upon registration to determine if ya've got at least two brain cells to rub together?), which means they're gonna look at Obitchboy, and say "you mean I get free stuff!?" or "He's black, like me... he's got my vote!" or "There's nothing wrong with Communism, mark me down for OBAMA!"

Believe me, voters were smarter years ago. I'm sure during the days of WWII, there wouldn't be a second thought for saying "NO" to a President Yamamoto or whatever.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 10:44:03 PM

Yeah but ya got a LOT of stupid people that unfortunately, CAN vote in this country (why can't there be an IQ test upon registration to determine if ya've got at least two brain cells to rub together?), which means they're gonna look at Obitchboy, and say "you mean I get free stuff!?" or "He's black, like me... he's got my vote!" or "There's nothing wrong with Communism, mark me down for OBAMA!"

Believe me, voters were smarter years ago. I'm sure during the days of WWII, there wouldn't be a second thought for saying "NO" to a President Yamamoto or whatever.

Didn't Yamamoto go to school in the U.S.?  Or am I thinking of a different admiral?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on October 15, 2008, 10:52:45 PM
Didn't Yamamoto go to school in the U.S.?  Or am I thinking of a different admiral?

I'm just saying with the Japanese name during WWII, Barack HUSSEIN Obama during this war on terrorism.. yeah, in reality, this guy shouldn't even be dog catcher let along being a serious contender for POTUS


By the way, didn't catch the debates. Is there a site where they have vids up?
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: rich_t on October 15, 2008, 10:54:11 PM
I love a good nail-biter, don't you?

Of course I do.

 :-)
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: CharlesD on October 15, 2008, 11:17:38 PM
I'm just saying with the Japanese name during WWII, Barack HUSSEIN Obama during this war on terrorism.. yeah, in reality, this guy shouldn't even be dog catcher let along being a serious contender for POTUS


By the way, didn't catch the debates. Is there a site where they have vids up?

I know where you were heading.  I just finished a pretty good book on WWII and apparently a couple of the big name admirals for the Japanese went to American universities and were critical of the Japanese government's decision to attack us.  That book was on my mind when you mentioned Yamamoto. 
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Airwolf on October 15, 2008, 11:20:32 PM
My ex-MIL thinks BHO is the anti-christ.  Seriously.

She could be right for all we know. He sure as HELL isn't here to help us.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 16, 2008, 12:11:50 AM
My ex-MIL thinks BHO is the anti-christ.  Seriously.

He reminds me of Nicholas Carpathia...the antichrist in the Left Behind series. 
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on October 16, 2008, 05:05:24 AM
Nah. The antichrist wouldn't need to bring a teleprompter to a rodeo. Also, the antichrist would be producing quite a few miracles to deceive the world. So far, Obama has produced precisely bupkis. However, I can see the confusion here. His supporters/followers/worshippers, and especially the media, are giving us a small taste of what it would be like when the antichrist does come.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Crazy Horse on October 16, 2008, 05:47:30 AM
Well as a voter who was first against McCain (when he won the primary) then for him, especially after he picked Palin, then against him after he voted for the Bailout...
in the end...
I will
vote
for
McCain.

I like him tonight.  I liked what he said about the spending freeze and about being pro-life and suggesting adoption. In addition, tonight brought out the fool in Obama even more.  So for this voter, he earned it tonight.

Signed,
the Flipflopper... :shucks:

Do me a favor then....................hide, don't listen to the news. Don't read the news. Don't visit blogs or anything political until November 5th
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Tucker on October 16, 2008, 06:04:26 AM
He still reminds me of Curious George.

It reminds me of Mr. Potato head.

(have fun)

http://www.cs.utk.edu/~ffowler/javahtml/potato/Potato.html
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: USA4ME on October 16, 2008, 07:37:14 AM
I think Hussein will win.  McCain isn't good a really getting down and dirty politically (especially against Democrats) without looking like he uncomfortable.  I was thinking about this the other day.  In 2000, when he ran against Bush in the primaries, he didn't rise to the occasion when Bush attacked him even then.  He didn't do it this time either.  He's living in some weird fantasyland where the mushy middle is going to vote for him because he's willing to reach across the aisle.  He let BHO frame him.  Granted, the MSM is wholly in the tank for BHO, but you go into these elections knowing they are anyway.  That's another problem he had.  Since he was for years the Republican media darling for attacking his own party, he figured they'd still be his buddies.  Hopefully he learned his lesson about the MSM, but I'm betting he misses the love and will go back to his old ways.

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Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: paladin0 on October 16, 2008, 07:51:18 AM
Last I checked the President is in for four years......................and in not doing enough of a job......was he supposed to punch Obama to make you think he did enough tonight??

If everything falls apart, dems will loose congress in 2 years and will take a large hit in the Senate which will neuter the damage that Obama could do.

McCain didn't hammer Obama enough on important points, and McCain totally lose the health care issue to Obama. He didn't counter Obama's Ayers and Acorn lies enough and didn't take him to task on his "tax cuts for 95% of Americans" like he should have. He left too much unsaid.

Paladin0
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Scoobie on October 16, 2008, 09:31:49 AM



By the way, didn't catch the debates. Is there a site where they have vids up?


You can Watch it Here (http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/politics&id=6452237)

Start with Part 2 of 12 and click on Watch Video.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on October 16, 2008, 10:35:16 AM

You can Watch it Here (http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/politics&id=6452237)

Start with Part 2 of 12 and click on Watch Video.


Thanks.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: franksolich on October 16, 2008, 12:35:44 PM
I dunno.

I remain, as always, defiantly and confidently confident.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: SaintLouieWoman on October 16, 2008, 03:53:08 PM
I dunno.

I remain, as always, defiantly and confidently confident.

Hope you're right, Frank, and that the American people realize the danger, even if McCain could do a better job in sounding the alarm.
Title: Re: Live Debate Thread (Wednesday Oct. 15)
Post by: Hawkgirl on October 16, 2008, 05:08:02 PM
Do me a favor then....................hide, don't listen to the news. Don't read the news. Don't visit blogs or anything political until November 5th

I'm actually doing that...with the exception of Mark Levin.