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we will turn this into the live debate thread later tonight.
it's going to be awfully hard for her to turn this caricature of herself around now that the MSM has invested
so much time into it. she can't even play the "low expectations" game, since she has basically been labeled
as flatly "not ready".
an interesting lie being promulgated by the MSM this week; "one in three vice presidents become president".
true, but hardly relevant. the real question is "how many vice presidents have had to assume the duties
of the presidency due to the death of the sitting president"? the answer is not "one in three". :whatever:
Underestimate Sarah Palin at your peril, Biden warned
One of Sarah Palin's former political foes has delivered a warning to Joe Biden before tonight's first televised vice-presidential debate: underestimate her at your peril.
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Republican concerns grew after interviews in which Ms Palin, 44, has appeared lost for words and supporters feared that a poor performance could deal a lethal blow to the McCain campaign in the same way that her performance at the Republican convention breathed life into it.
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The newspaper said that Ms Palin had been "woefully unprepared" when she started her run for the Alaska governorship in late 2006, stumbling in her answers before an audience of electrical workers
But within a few weeks she was much more at ease and, in the words of one observer, she ended up flummoxing her rivals "like Muhammad Ali dancing around the ring".
"She distilled policy questions into simple answers and countered her opponents' attacks with verbal thrusts delivered with a sunny smile," the LA Times reported.
More (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4868250.ece)
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Here's my preview:
Hardcore Republicans will claim she won, vice versa for Dems. :-) :-)
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Did you warn the server
hamsters hosting comapy?
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I'm nervous. Is this what parents feel like when they are watching their kids perform on stage? LOL.
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Here's my preview:
Hardcore Republicans will claim she won, vice versa for Dems. :-) :-)
Isn't it ALWAYS like that?
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A Partial List of Gwen Ifil's Questions For Tonight's Debate
Mayor Palin, Barack Obama is a handsome, charismatic demigod. How many boxes of Kleenex will you need after your crushing loss?
Senator Biden, what is your favorite color? And if you have time for a follow-up question: Why?
Mayor, what are the names, ages, and blood types of all 71 members of the Belgian Senate? And why are you unwilling to admit that your inability to instantly produce any and every fact I demand makes you unfit to stand in the way of history?
Senator, you've spoken at length. Could you please continue?
http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001643.html
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Did you warn the server hamsters hosting comapy?
we have taken every step that we could think of to address the response time issues that occurred during the last presidential debate. we won't know for certain whether we solved the problem until it disappears, though. :uhsure: (that sounded strange :-))
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Did you warn the server hamsters hosting comapy?
we have taken every step that we could think of to address the response time issues that occurred during the last presidential debate. we won't know for certain whether we solved the problem until it disappears, though. :uhsure: (that sounded strange :-))
I can see it now...CC going into lockdown mode like DU. DEFCON 5!
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It's Palin who is debating tonight isn't it? :-)
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Here's my preview:
Hardcore Republicans will claim she won, vice versa for Dems. :-) :-)
Isn't it ALWAYS like that?
Yeah, I'm captain obvious today.
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Debate: Palin Plans to Be Herself, Biden Still Deciding
by Scott Ott for ScrappleFace · 9 Comments
(2008-10-02) — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin plans to “just be herself†in tonight’s vice presidential debate, and Democrat insiders said today that rival Joe Biden is still mulling such a strategy.
“I told Joe not to risk it,†said one unnamed DNC strategist. “It’s late in the process and we really don’t have time to do the research required to prep him for that kind of approach.â€
Aides also fear that Sen. Biden “might not be up to the challenge of keeping the details of his own life history straight.â€
If asked by debate moderator, and future best-selling Obama historian, Gwen Ifill about his education, an anonymous source said, “Joe might struggle to explain how he graduated in the top 50 percent of the bottom quarter of his law school class after earning half of a full academic scholarship based on financial need.â€
Sen. Biden, whose only political role prior to the Senate was two years as a council member in New Castle County, Delaware, is also said to be concerned that the debate will focus on leadership — an area where his opponent enjoys a decided advantage.
“If that happens,†an Obama-Biden campaign adviser said, “Joe will just have to let his hair down, pour on the charm and just win the hearts of the American people
http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=3134
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It's Palin who is debating tonight isn't it? :-)
Yeah it is but WE is busy checking the hamsters
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It's Palin who is debating tonight isn't it? :-)
Yeah it is but WE is busy checking the hamsters
Better the hamsters than the gerbils. :-)
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Is there going to be a lag is posting tonight too? :uhsure:
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Is there going to be a lag is posting tonight too? :uhsure:
That's why the gerbils were replaced with hamsters...............oh and the things WE used to do with the gerbils :censored:
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we will turn this into the live debate thread later tonight.
it's going to be awfully hard for her to turn this caricature of herself around now that the MSM has invested
so much time into it. she can't even play the "low expectations" game, since she has basically been labeled
as flatly "not ready".
an interesting lie being promulgated by the MSM this week; "one in three vice presidents become president".
true, but hardly relevant. the real question is "how many vice presidents have had to assume the duties
of the presidency due to the death of the sitting president"? the answer is not "one in three". :whatever:
She is going to need to nail Biden with something that will be so entertaining that the media will not be able to deny playing it over and over again. Other than that she is going to need to hammer Obama with every single answer. Nothing less but Pitbulls, Lipstick, and Barracudas all night long.
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Maybe Biden will ask Gwen to stand up so the audience can see her .
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Coulter just reminded us that Biden was one of 5 senators who voted AGAINST the Alaska pipeline...
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Coulter just reminded us that Biden was one of 5 senators who voted AGAINST the Alaska pipeline...
:uhsure:
I would hope if energy is brought up she drives it out of the park
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I'm not the most religious person in the world...
but I will admit I'm praying for Sarah tonight.
Kick Joe's Ass!!! :fuelfire:
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Maybe Biden will ask Gwen to stand up so the audience can see her .
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I'm glad some of you can watch it for the rest of us. I can't stand to even look at Biden, he's such an idiot. I'll be watching the Pitt @ USF game. Go Bulls!!
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I'm glad some of you can watch it for the rest of us. I can't stand to even look at Biden, he's such an idiot. I'll be watching the Pitt @ USF game. Go Bulls!!
I have a feeling of hope (and change ? :uhsure: ) in my gut unlike for the first McCain/Obama debate which I went into feeling apprehensive about. I really hope she nails him to the wall, or, better yet, he nails himself to the wall.
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I hope she at least fills Biden on who was "president" on "television" in 1929. :whatever:
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God Speed Sarah! :cheersmate:
Obviously this whole thing is set up as a Palin Bashing night but I'm sure she will rise to the occasion.
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Hi all. Exciting (and scary) night, but no better place to be! :cheersmate: (cheers to having beers for the debate that is)
"Where" ya'll watching from? Anyone have a FOX link!
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And on that note, I've killed the debate thread 45 minutes early. :(
(off to lose this plane picture for awhile) :p
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Maybe Biden will ask Gwen to stand up so the audience can see her .
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I'm glad some of you can watch it for the rest of us. I can't stand to even look at Biden, he's such an idiot. I'll be watching the Pitt @ USF game. Go Bulls!!
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Wouldn't it be hilarious if Palin in response to some of Bidens B.S. walked over to his podium,showed him documentation he is full of beans. Placed the docs on the podium in front of Biden,turned around and walked back to her podium. :evillaugh:
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Maybe Biden will ask Gwen to stand up so the audience can see her .
:rotf:
I'm glad some of you can watch it for the rest of us. I can't stand to even look at Biden, he's such an idiot. I'll be watching the Pitt @ USF game. Go Bulls!!
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Wouldn't it be hilarious if Palin in response to some of Bidens B.S. walked over to his podium,showed him documentation he is full of beans. Placed the docs on the podium in front of Biden,turned around and walked back to her podium. :evillaugh:
And then the Lamestream Media would be all: She threatened him!
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Wouldn't it be hilarious if Palin in response to some of Bidens B.S. walked over to his podium,showed him documentation he is full of beans. Placed the docs on the podium in front of Biden,turned around and walked back to her podium. :evillaugh:
That would be funny, but it reminds me of the Bush/Gore debate where Gore wandered over to Bush's podium, looked menacing and walked back. A very uncomfortable moment.
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Wouldn't it be hilarious if Palin in response to some of Bidens B.S. walked over to his podium,showed him documentation he is full of beans. Placed the docs on the podium in front of Biden,turned around and walked back to her podium. :evillaugh:
That would be funny, but it reminds me of the Bush/Gore debate where Gore wandered over to Bush's podium, looked menacing and walked back. A very uncomfortable moment.
I was thinking more like Rick Lazio/Hillary Clinton U.S. Senate/New York Debate. Lazio got called out for harrassing a girl. :whatever:
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Wouldn't it be hilarious if Palin in response to some of Bidens B.S. walked over to his podium,showed him documentation he is full of beans. Placed the docs on the podium in front of Biden,turned around and walked back to her podium. :evillaugh:
That would be funny, but it reminds me of the Bush/Gore debate where Gore wandered over to Bush's podium, looked menacing and walked back. A very uncomfortable moment.
The response Bush gave Gore was priceless. I knew he would be a great president at that moment.
WV Cons
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And the nutless wonder WE is where??
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Here's my preview:
Hardcore Republicans will claim she won, vice versa for Dems. :-) :-)
an addendum: The MSM will have Biden winning even if the Governor leaves him soiling himself and lying on the stage in a fetal position, alternately seizing and muttering.
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And the nutless wonder WE is where??
LOL! :lmao:
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And the nutless wonder WE is where??
He has a pedal machine to gin up extra capacity and is going like Lance Armstrong in the final 500 meters.
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I have it on good authority that Teh Rove is gonna' test out his new "Aneurysm Machine" on Biden halfway through the dabate! :-)
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I have it on good authority that Teh Rove is gonna' test out his new "Aneurysm Machine" on Biden halfway through the dabate! :-)
from your lips to God's ears. :-)
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I have it on good authority that Teh Rove is gonna' test out his new "Aneurysm Machine" on Biden halfway through the dabate! :-)
Yet the MSM will still declare him the winner... that's the sad part.
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Palin should show up dressed like Tina Fey :mental:
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almost time to rock....
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oops -- ears uncovered, there goes the conspiracy theory about a listening device
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She talks to the camera, me likey!
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First question I'm impressed
WV C
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Biden comes out the gate with the "lack of regulation" lie.... and gets put in his place.
One point to Sarah.
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good job on the first question - it was designed to hit the republicans at their weak point - nice deflection.
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Awww.... Joe Biden has friends. How sweet.
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She talks to the camera, me likey!
Me too
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And didn't Obama say the exact same thing about the economy almost verbatim just a few days ago?
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Palin looks uncofortable and nervous but sounds just great. (the opening) Hope she can relax. (or am I crazy)
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Fundamentals and Economic Indicators are two different things.
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hit obama on the 2nd question - nice
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Palin looks uncofortable and nervous but sounds just great. (the opening) Hope she can relax. (or am I crazy)
She's starting to relax, I think.
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she's warming up! (weather I'm crazy or not)
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She needs to put the blame on the CRA. That was where the "predatory" lending originated.
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She is finding her stride -- now punch Obama!!
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First credit card? Shoulda said First Job.
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Palin looks uncofortable and nervous but sounds just great. (the opening) Hope she can relax. (or am I crazy)
i liked during their handshake that she said "can i call ya Joe?" and laughed... :popcorn:
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Um...when did Omaba warn anyone?
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They seem to have really coached Biden on the facial expressions
And right now Biden is lying about the economy
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God bless her, but she sounds like Fargo.
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She is nervous, but she is doing great.
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They seem to have really coached Biden on the facial expressions
And right now Biden is lying about the economy
Yes, he is.
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Um...when did Omaba warn anyone?
Never.............yet McCain did
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Government do with less? Sacrilege!
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I wanna correct you on that again! :-)
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Um...when did Omaba warn anyone?
did you hear his soundbite this week where he took credit for writing the damn thing?? Obama has big, huge brass ones..
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YES! make it clear that you are not gonna play a rigged game ! good on you Sarah
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Um...when did Omaba warn anyone?
Never.............yet McCain did
That part I know.
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Hey Joe, your eyes are slits -- how many cocktails you throw back before heading out to the podium dude?
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What a ****ed up question
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Um...when did Omaba warn anyone?
did you hear his soundbite this week where he took credit for writing the damn thing?? Obama has big, huge brass ones..
I heard that once he got to lead that White House meeting, it turned into a nightmare. Then it turned into a disaster. Then it turned into a catastrophe. And it only went downhill from there.
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Oh, this should be fun.
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Heh. "Redistribution of wealth..." :lmao:
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Paying taxes is patriotic! BAM!
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What a ****ed up question
It was.
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Gwen is a bitch.
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Is it me or has Sarah dominated the time here?
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Sarah got her groove back! :-) :-)
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May be my bias showing but I do believe Sarah is not only holding her own but subtley delivering damaging blows.
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She hit that one out of the park (McCain's healthcare plan).
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Biden is getting angry -- Excellent.
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Biden is getting angry. He's gonna' **** up!
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Where the hell did Exxon come from.............
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She was the only one of them that actually answered the "Dealing with Bi Partisanship" question.
She said that she has a solid record as does McCain of crossing lines to achieve consensus.
And the moderator apparantly heard it different.
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Biden is babbling
wv
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I'm trying to follow Biden, but it's not working.
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But Joe -- what will you cut?
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He's gonna' stroke out!
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He is answering the cut spending question by saying he is going to cut McCains proposals ? Okay...
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Plugs is getting smoked!
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Does he actually SAY anything when his mouth is moving?
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ruh row, the gin is talking....
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She got her ass kicked on health plans.
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Professional politician... saying a whole lot of nothing while filling up his time.
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Biden is babbling
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Heh, characterize.
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What the hell is wrong with Biden's face!?!? He looks like a freaking alien! Bad botox, bad makeup, a stroke?
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She just kicked his ass. Hard. That left a mark.
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Plugs is getting smoked!
H5 for Biden's new nickname! :rotf:
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She got her ass kicked on health plans.
How so? I heard McCain's plan is budget neutral, with tax breaks, while Obama's want the gov't to take over and we all know how well the gov't runs things.
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I bet dollars to donuts Biden was briefed on the questions beforehand.
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She got her ass kicked on health plans.
How so? I heard McCain's plan is budget neutral, with tax breaks, while Obama's want the gov't to take over and we all know how well the gov't runs things.
Audience reaction.
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Aaaaa, evil EEEEEVIL PROFITS! AAAAAAAAAAA!
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Wow. I was scared for Palin. Now I'm scared for Biden! And I don't even like the bast-rad. :rotf:
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Biden congratulates his opponent count: 1
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She got her ass kicked on health plans.
How so? I heard McCain's plan is budget neutral, with tax breaks, while Obama's want the gov't to take over and we all know how well the gov't runs things.
Audience reaction.
The audience are full of Biden and McCain people.
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She got her ass kicked on health plans.
How so? I heard McCain's plan is budget neutral, with tax breaks, while Obama's want the gov't to take over and we all know how well the gov't runs things.
Audience reaction.
they laughed at his "bridge to nowhere" comment.
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uh oh Biden just declared that Palin was right..
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She got her ass kicked on health plans.
How so? I heard McCain's plan is budget neutral, with tax breaks, while Obama's want the gov't to take over and we all know how well the gov't runs things.
Frommy understanding iof McCains Healthcare tax proposal it's a net gain for most folks phased out in about 3 yrs by which time they are paying lower HC premiums wich is another gain.
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Biden congratulates his opponent count: 1
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why the hell didn't she bring up Raines and Johnson?
She's letting him steal the thunder on sub-prime warnings.
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Biden is looking at Gwen he answers, Sarah is looking right in the camera -- big difference in getting the connection made with the television audience.
It's complicated... I don't have time to address..... keep talking and saying nothing Joe.
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And I'm paraphrasing...heh
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Obama knew two years ago what his friends were up to? Wow! :lmao:
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Adjust the Principal? OMG!
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Did he just say bankruptcy courst should be allowed to adjust PRINICPAL amounts owed on a property?????
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Um...when did Omaba warn anyone?
did you hear his soundbite this week where he took credit for writing the damn thing?? Obama has big, huge brass ones..
I heard that once he got to lead that White House meeting, it turned into a nightmare. Then it turned into a disaster. Then it turned into a catastrophe. And it only went downhill from there.
yep, and Harry Reid out there screaming that McCain needed to leave - in fact, he begged the President to tell McCain to just leave town..
buncha whiners, I can only hope Nevada is so beyond embarassed that they have no choice but to fire his whiny butt..
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DUmp just crashed. :-)
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Global warming is a debate question?
Worthless. :whatever:
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Does he actually SAY anything when his mouth is moving?
Only slightly more than Obama does, which is like asking who is the second-smartest kid on the short bus.
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Half-capitulating on global warming.
Too many polls guiding her speech.
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Did he just say bankruptcy courst should be allowed to adjust PRINICPAL amounts owed on a property?????
New idea to lose our money!
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Palin kills Biden on Climate change??????!!!!!!
I'm in love. :-) :-)
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Brain...hurting...
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She better slap him on his coal comments.
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Barack Obama believes in nuclear plants? :bs:
Ten years, my ass. It only takes ten years because the greenies will run you through the court system if you try.
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For France.
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She just called him senator obiden.
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bottom line. all Biden can do is spout left wing talking points, I think any one of us could take him on and whip his ass. :rotf:
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Even if it took 10 years, if Clinton hadn't vetoed that ANWR bill, we'd have oil from there now.
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She better slap him on his coal comments.
Sarah shouldn't have let that slip by especially since Gwen asked Biden about it & he lied.
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uhoh -- hit Biden on the Clean Coal flipflop -- nice
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She just called him senator obiden.
I thought I heard that. Good job I call him that too.
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but but but clean coal.....out of context....look at my record.....
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She just called him senator obiden.
yeah but he got three tries to say "characteristic" so...theyre even so far :-)
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She better slap him on his coal comments.
Sarah shouldn't have let that slip by especially since Gwen asked Biden about it & he lied.
Except the average viewer has no rior knowledge and won't follow-up.
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Globull warming, free healthcare, and gay "rights". Who the hell wrote these questions?
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Globull warming, free healthcare, and gay "rights". Who the hell wrote these questions?
The chick writing the Age of Obama book.
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obama's favorite Author.
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Globull warming, free healthcare, and gay "rights". Who the hell wrote these questions?
its in the leftie handbook.. its all they are able to discuss. im suprised they dont bring up VIetnam :whatever:
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HA --- Make Biden admit against gay marriage ! Awesome
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Palin is right #2.
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She danced around civil rights for fags.
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Globull warming, free healthcare, and gay "rights". Who the hell wrote these questions?
The chick writing the Age of Obama book.
Palin should have congratulated her on her new book.
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Barack Obama believes in nuclear plants? :bs:
Ten years, my ass. It only takes ten years because the greenies will run you through the court system if you try.
Ten years IF the greenies don't lie down in front of your truck coming on site every morning.
The plant where I work was initially planned in 1968 with initial startup in 1974. The greenies bitched, and it got delayed.
FINALLY, ground was broken in 1976 (keep in mind that the licensing process took place for 3-4 years prior to that). Construction on Unit 1 was finished in 1986, thanks to a lot of slowdowns by the politicians, cost overruns, redesigns, etc. But even then, the treehuggers managed to keep the plant from going online until 1990.
TWENTY-TWO YEARS, kids. And Unit 2 never got built. The greenies got to be such a pain in the ass and drove the cost of everything sky-high, it actually bankrupted TWO utilities.
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Palin is right #2.
H5
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Wow... Snarky Joe makes an appearance.
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Wow... Snarky Joe makes an appearance.
And here comes the inevitable beatdown from Palin.
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Palin is not just kicking Bidan's ass, she is kicking my ass trying to keep up!
Is this debate super high speed or am I too beersy so soon? :p
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Biden just contradicted his earlier position on Barack's vote.
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Is this debate super high speed or am I too beersy so soon? :p
They're moving quicker than I can pour.
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"There's no end in sight to end this war"? Him grammar good!
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Nice job on Iraq slam Joe on white flag of surrender.
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Doin a shot every time Biden looks constipated.
I figger I'll be passed out in about 10 minutes.
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"So did you until you became the pick for VP."
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Wasn't that the amendment that had the surrender timeline in it?
Yes, it was.
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Biden is talking in circles.
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"God love him".
Please, please say, "Stand up, Chuck."
Please.
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Biden is talking in circles.
Fundamentally speaking.
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Biden is talking in circles.
And yet CNN is in mastubatory glee. I don't even wanna THINK about what Olbertard is doing.
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She said "nukular". The DUmmies are going to go apeshit.
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Is this debate super high speed or am I too beersy so soon? :p
They're moving quicker than I can pour.
Palin kicking Biden ass on foreign policy? Why did I ever doubt her, even a little? Someone kick me!
She is kicking Libearl butt on issues the liberals and the press pretended they own!
Screw McCain (yes you will forever be an American hero) Give me Palin for POTUS!!!!
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She said "nukular". The DUmmies are going to go apeshit.
**** 'em. She can say "nukular" because Fat Teddy has been saying "Kyoo-ber" for 50 ****ing years.
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hit Obama on the meeting without preconditions -- she has the Bush noo-cu-lar pronunciation issue though,, The DUmmies will be dancing on that.
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Joe want's to reach over there and punch her!
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Yes Joe he did say it. We all heard it. We need BOR to play the tape for him....
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So what Joe is saying is that Obama is going to meet with the Mullah.......
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, that is soooo much better.
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Spppaaaaaaaaaainnnn Joe is pissed
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If I didn't know better, I would swear that I saw a few throbbing blood vessels on Biden's forehead.
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She said "nukular". The DUmmies are going to go apeshit.
**** 'em. She can say "nukular" because Fat Teddy has been saying "Kyoo-ber" for 50 ****ing years.
I noticed Mondale said "nukular" as well.
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Our CU Ronulan buddies must be writhing over Palin's Isreal support.
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Spppaaaaaaaaaainnnn Joe is pissed
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Spppaaaaaaaaaainnnn Joe is pissed
now HEZZZZZbolah~~ LOL
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Um, who said this lady can't debate? she is kicking ass here.
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Whoever has "George Bush" as a drinking word needs to leave their keys with the bartender....
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Um, who said this lady can't debate? she is kicking ass here.
DUmmies said it. :lmao: :-)
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Whoever has "George Bush" as a drinking word needs to leave their keys with the bartender....
Too late--I have a breathalyzer in the house right now. Given the debate will go another 30-40 minutes, and assuming normal elimination times and my body weight, I'm not going to be sober enough to drive for about a ****ING MONTH.
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She Picked up the Ball!!!! Awesome ! Biden almost got the last word on that.
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Brought up Obama's "air raiding villagers comment".
Owwwie
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Whoever has "George Bush" as a drinking word needs to leave their keys with the bartender....
Too late--I have a breathalyzer in the house right now. Given the debate will go another 30-40 minutes, and assuming normal elimination times and my body weight, I'm not going to be sober enough to drive for about a ******* MONTH.
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The way that Biden keeps hammering the Bush administration makes me wonder if he realizes that Bush isn't running this time. :whatever:
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Biden is losing it. The higher his voice gets, the worse he looks. This really IS reminding me of his testimony in the Senate back in the 1980's...too funny, yet incredibly frightening realizing this guy could be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
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Um, who said this lady can't debate? she is kicking ass here.
DUmmies said it. :lmao: :-)
Those asshats at USMB are practically stepping on each other trying to outdo each other in Palin insults. :whatever:
I agree with you, she's kicking ass!
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Politician vs. Patriot...Case closed.
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Biden's huffing into his microphone. He can't be happy. :evillaugh:
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I didn't know Bush was running again.
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What the Hell did Biden just say?
Really? I heard every word. But what did he say?? :rotf:
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Hmmm... Sounded like "Palin is right #3" there.
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The way that Biden keeps hammering the Bush administration makes me wonder if he realizes that Bush isn't running this time. :whatever:
He doesn't, but that's not going to stop him from appealing to the 10 million moonbats in his corner. Problem is, the other 290 million of us know better and aren't buying it.
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I think Biden has learned that Palin has learned a fricken lot of foreign policy in very very little time.. Notice his drop in tone and the way he winced when she challenged him. on Afghanistan
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Did he just sigh into his mic?
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Biden is about to be dropped from the ticket. :rotf:
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Um, who said this lady can't debate? she is kicking ass here.
DUmmies said it. :lmao: :-)
Those asshats at USMB are practically stepping on each other trying to outdo each other in Palin insults. :whatever:
I agree with you, she's kicking ass!
They won't go for rabies shots.
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I think Biden is gonna tell her to call him Senator Biden instead of joe soon. :cheersmate:
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Yeppers, it does appear as that ditzy broad has got mr. debate champion rattled.
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She is waaaaay up inside his melon.
"Bosniaks"?? We always referred them as Bosnians.
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Did he just sigh into his mic?
I've noticed he's done that several times. Granted, it's not as bad as Obama shaking his head or saying, "You're wrong" like he did in the presidential debate, but it's a very telling sign nonetheless.
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After Barrack meets with the Mullahs, he will zoom right over and meet with the Taliban -- we will have peace in the ME within days of BO taking office.
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"I was for it before I was against it."
HA! :lmao:
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Wow. Game. Palin. There's the sound byte.
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kicking ass and taking names - Seems Palin took the Darfur bait and ran with it - too bad Biden.
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He scored a point with the "bridge to nowhere" crap, but she's been landing body blows right and left, and he can't take it much longer.
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She is waaaaay up inside his melon.
"Bosniaks"?? We always referred them as Bosnians.
:rotf: I thought I was hearing thngs.
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The DUmpmonkeys will be all over Sarah constantly smiling.. count on it.
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Dick Cheney? WTF? Is he gonna come out and say that we blew up the Twin Towers on 9/11 next?
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The DUmpmonkeys will be all over Sarah constantly smiling.. count on it.
We all are smiling
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Oh, here we go.
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"Take politics out of the war."
Oh, SNAP!!!
And now getting into energy policy. It's only getting better for Palin.
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That is a good question Gwen.
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Palin has my vote if she will just say "Joe you ignorant slut".
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I'm enjoying this as much as anyone else, but I have two questions; how is it going to be spun and is this going to help the ticket? She is kicking his tail that's for sure, but we all know that McCain did better than it was spun as well.
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notice how Obama went from championing the poor to championing the middle class?
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Joe Biden: "I'm so important. Vote for me"!
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No you don't Joe -- BOR needs to run the Democratic primary tapes for him.
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I'm enjoying this as much as anyone else, but I have two questions; how is it going to be spun and is this going to help the ticket? She is kicking his tail that's for sure, but we all know that McCain did better than it was spun as well.
you know the left wing media will spin it for Biden, truth dosen't matter
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I'm enjoying this as much as anyone else, but I have two questions; how is it going to be spun and is this going to help the ticket? She is kicking his tail that's for sure, but we all know that McCain did better than it was spun as well.
They're not going to be able to spin this one, no matter how they try. The people SAW this debate and it's not even close.
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This son of a bitch has been allowed to lie through his teeth all night.
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Joe spends a lot of time in Home Depot? who knew?
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She is waaaaay up inside his melon.
"Bosniaks"?? We always referred them as Bosnians.
I was sorta wondering about that too.
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Biden is losing it. The higher his voice gets, the worse he looks. This really IS reminding me of his testimony in the Senate back in the 1980's...too funny, yet incredibly frightening realizing this guy could be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
he keeps repeating himself.. "let me say that again!" he must know there's a buncha moonbats out there watching him.. so he needs to keep saying it over and over again. :popcorn:
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you know the left wing media will spin it for Biden, truth dosen't matter
She not only needs to hit it out of the park, but it needs to be to center field so they can't claim it was a foul ball.
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"Oh, there you go again."
HAAAHAAHAHAHAHAA!
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"say it ain'r so Joe"
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Say it aint so JOE!
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Say it isnt so Joe . -- hell yeah -- there's the soundbite - assuming the MSM doesn't ignore it.
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Doggonit Joe, there you go again! :lmao:
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Line of the night there. "There you go again, looking to the past again."
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you know the left wing media will spin it for Biden, truth dosen't matter
She not only needs to hit it out of the park, but it needs to be to center field so they can't claim it was a foul ball.
I say just enjoy it and know what you know and don't care what the Lamestream have to say too much because before the debate they already declared Obiden the winner.
Just have fun and get your stomach pumped after. :cheersmate:
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Oh he said it
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Bosniak = cystic renal disease
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Joe has a "history of getting things done"?
As far as Senators go, even Joe is a nobody.
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I say just enjoy it and know what you know and don't care what the Lamestream have to say too much because before the debate they already declared Obiden the winner.
Just have fun and get your stomach pumped after. :cheersmate:
Well, I can't do much :cheersmate: tonight. I'm at a truck stop between loads. DOT regulations and all that. I'll have to settle for a Coke.
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"America First, Just say no to BO & Joe, Yes We Can"
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Line of the night there. "There you go again, looking to the past again."
that line was very Reaganesque. I am old enough to remember. :-)
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I say just enjoy it and know what you know and don't care what the Lamestream have to say too much because before the debate they already declared Obiden the winner.
Just have fun and get your stomach pumped after. :cheersmate:
Well, I can't do much :cheersmate: tonight. I'm at a truck stop between loads. DOT regulations and all that. I'll have to settle for a Coke.
Make it a Red Bull. I'll sit at home and make a Bullshot.
Then again, maybe I won't. That's not something you want to start drinking alone.
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Line of the night there. "There you go again, looking to the past again."
that line was very Reaganesque. I am old enough to remember. :-)
YES, you ARE!!! :uhsure:
:popcorn:
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that line was very Reaganesque. I am old enough to remember. :-)
I remember that one too, although I wasn't old enough to vote yet. Now she just quoted Reagan while I was typing here, "shining city on a hill."
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Line of the night there. "There you go again, looking to the past again."
that line was very Reaganesque. I am old enough to remember. :-)
YES, you ARE!!! :uhsure:
:popcorn:
Basturd. :evillaugh:
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Playing the Reagan card--very smart!!! And all Joe can come back with his "35 years in the Senate".
Joe, you're not telling us anything new. What you ARE telling us is that you're part of the entrenched problem that got us to this point in the first place!!!!
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I have to say something.... Gwen seems fair.
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Oh God, Joe is going for the pity angle. :whatever:
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"I'm much better off than most Americans."
Did I hear that right?
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I say just enjoy it and know what you know and don't care what the Lamestream have to say too much because before the debate they already declared Obiden the winner.
Just have fun and get your stomach pumped after. :cheersmate:
Well, I can't do much :cheersmate: tonight. I'm at a truck stop between loads. DOT regulations and all that. I'll have to settle for a Coke.
I can't either because I don't really like being drunk but I do like to celebrate. My main point is enjoy and don't worry about what other people say because most other people, especially the Lamestream media, are morons any way. Present company excluded, of course :tongue:
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Line of the night there. "There you go again, looking to the past again."
that line was very Reaganesque. I am old enough to remember. :-)
YES, you ARE!!! :uhsure:
:popcorn:
Basturd. :evillaugh:
You stepped into that one. :-)
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Biden is rambling - and seems to be suggesting that Palin bashed his single parenthood - going for the wounded puppy ploy.
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Joe: "I've beenin congress for 35 years, I've been the same". Kinda clashes with the "change" meme no?
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Oh God, Joe is going for the pity angle. :whatever:
For a second there I thought he was going to claim his wife was killed by a drunk driver.
I still don't see why he gets away with shit like that.
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I have to say something.... Gwen seems fair.
She certainly hasn't piled on Palin like she could have. Maybe calling her out did the trick?
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now Biden is trying to get all the talking points in that were missed in the questioning - sad.
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Doggonit Joe, there you go again! :lmao:
I laughed out loud when I heard her say that!!! :lmao:
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You mean he hasn't been a maverick in providing social programs and welfare? No, you are right Joe -- he hasn't.
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I have to say something.... Gwen seems fair.
She certainly hasn't piled on Palin like she could have. Maybe calling her out did the trick?
yea Sarah lanched a preemptive strike early in the debate
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I have to say something.... Gwen seems fair.
She certainly hasn't piled on Palin like she could have. Maybe calling her out did the trick?
I think so.
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I have to say something.... Gwen seems fair.
She certainly hasn't piled on Palin like she could have. Maybe calling her out did the trick?
I agree - mostly fair, but I did notice that the question order gave Biden the last word on things that matter more to people. Im glad Sarah took the opportunity to put forth a rebuttal anyway.
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Biden, " I stopped Bork in the SC". :rotf:
Yer a dumbass quoth, uhhh... me.
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for what it's worth, at the moment, Sarah is getting strong support.
{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...
BIDEN
22% 6,674
PALIN
76% 23,587
NEITHER
2% 623
Total Votes: 30,884
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Punch for the MSM!!!
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Biden, " I stopped Bork in the SC". :rotf:
Yer a dumbass quoth, uhhh... me.
And in doing so, stopped an excellent choice. And you probably jerk off at night knowing that you got the likes of Ginsburg, Kennedy, and Souter on the court, dontcha Joe?
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That does it. I'm voting for the disabled vet and the hockey mom, rather than the commie dirtbag lawyers.
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WOW
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Strong closing statement there, quoting Reagan again.
Biden "last eight years" again. Hey Joe, Bush is not running again.
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My wife just said that Joe Biden reminds her of Mr. Burns from the Simpsons!
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My wife just said that Joe Biden reminds her of Mr. Burns from the Simpsons!
Excellent!
(http://www.jungfreudlich.de/myfiles/Excellent.jpg)
Hot bandwidth alert!
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was her mike supposed to still be on after the debate was actually over?
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Tis finished...
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Oh God, Joe is going for the pity angle. :whatever:
For a second there I thought he was going to claim his wife was killed by a drunk driver.
I still don't see why he gets away with shit like that.
or his chopper being attacked by snow flurries in the Middle East..
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damn - Palin's stilettos - she could have killed Biden with one of them if necessary
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damn - Palin's stilettos - she could have killed Biden with one of them if necessary
watch the stories in the MSM make a reference to her shoes. watch. it will happen.
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Palin went Reagan! She spoke above the media and too the American people. I hoped I saw this early but I did have doubts. (shame on me) Free her McCain! send her out to everyone everywhere to speak.
She speaks for me!
To those who would say that we need leaders "smarter than ourselves", I say, It is a universal tenet of Democracy that no one is!
(I stole much of that last line from P,J. O'rourke. :-) )
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rachel maddow says palin didn't meet expectations in terms of "personality and poise". :whatever:
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rachel maddow says palin didn't meet expectations in terms of "personality and poise". :whatever:
Expected from maddow. No big deal.
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pat buchanan : "she mopped the floor with joe biden"
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rachel maddow says palin didn't meet expectations in terms of "personality and poise". :whatever:
Expected from maddow. No big deal.
maddow was throwing up a little in her mouth when she said it. :-)
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maddow was throwing up a little in her mouth when she said it. :-)
Maddow would do Palin in a heartbeat if she had the chance.
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rachel maddow says palin didn't meet expectations in terms of "personality and poise". :whatever:
Rachel Maddow doesn't meet expectations in terms of femininity and beauty.
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Shade, I will agree that Ifill (sp?) did indeed seem neutral .. way across the country in the other Washington, we got an earful about her book deal coming out next month. So I can imagine the deafening roar in Missouri today towards her..
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oh, God. frank luntz and his knob twisting idiots.
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Focus group on Fox - Palin Wins!
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rachel maddow says palin didn't meet expectations in terms of "personality and poise". :whatever:
Expected from maddow. No big deal.
Maddow wouldn't know personality and poise if it punched her in the mouth. She dresses like the construction worker from the Village People.
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rachel maddow says palin didn't meet expectations in terms of "personality and poise". :whatever:
Expected from maddow. No big deal.
maddow was throwing up a little in her mouth when she said it. :-)
a gay woman who looks like a dude doesnt really have the perspective to talk about personality and poise.
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Palin went Reagan! She spoke above the media and too the American people. I hoped I saw this early but I did have doubts. (shame on me) Free her McCain! send her out to everyone everywhere to speak.
She speaks for me!
To those who would say that we need leaders "smarter than ourselves", I say, It is a universal tenet of Democracy that no one is!
(I stole much of that last line from P,J. O'rourke. :-) )
I think McCain must have bad advisors. The way they hid her from the media, only to have her be exposed to Charlie (I'm not as handsome as Mel) Gibson and Katie (I have a bowling ball up my azz) Couric..... They should have had her on every local tv station in middle america doing interviews, talking with the people, etc.
McCain is a media snob.... how he thought she could get fair treatment from Charlie and Katie.... Balderdash!
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well, the knob twisters all thought palin won.
ummmmm, does anyone besides me think that Sarah may have been sand bagging in the interviews during the past two weeks?
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rachel maddow says palin didn't meet expectations in terms of "personality and poise". :whatever:
Expected from maddow. No big deal.
maddow was throwing up a little in her mouth when she said it. :-)
a gay woman who looks like a dude doesnt really have the perspective to talk about personality and poise.
maddow DID have to admit that palin met expectations in terms of policy knowledge and overall performance.
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This is the Palin I wanted to see...she did great. One observation is that she had passion and she also spoke TO american people and not AT them, like Biden...
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a gay woman who looks like a dude...
Did you go to the school of redundancy school?
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Palin went Reagan! She spoke above the media and too the American people. I hoped I saw this early but I did have doubts. (shame on me) Free her McCain! send her out to everyone everywhere to speak.
She speaks for me!
To those who would say that we need leaders "smarter than ourselves", I say, It is a universal tenet of Democracy that no one is!
(I stole much of that last line from P,J. O'rourke. :-) )
I think McCain must have bad advisors. The way they hid her from the media, only to have her be exposed to Charlie (I'm not as handsome as Mel) Gibson and Katie (I have a bowling ball up my azz) Couric..... They should have had her on every local tv station in middle america doing interviews, talking with the people, etc.
McCain is a media snob.... how he thought she could get fair treatment from Charlie and Katie.... Balderdash!
McCainez is indeed a moron when it comes to his Media Aptitude but so is the GOP leadership that pushed him on us. They all thought he would get a cake walk though Media Alley.
Let Sarah be Sarah. We don't want Sarah McClone.
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I think McCain must have bad advisors. The way they hid her from the media, only to have her be exposed to Charlie (I'm not as handsome as Mel) Gibson and Katie (I have a bowling ball up my azz) Couric..... They should have had her on every local tv station in middle america doing interviews, talking with the people, etc.
McCain is a media snob.... how he thought she could get fair treatment from Charlie and Katie.... Balderdash!
Limbaugh brought this out today. He thinks the McCain camp is worried about overexposure. "The time to bring her out is in the last two weeks of the election."
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Palin went Reagan! She spoke above the media and too the American people. I hoped I saw this early but I did have doubts. (shame on me) Free her McCain! send her out to everyone everywhere to speak.
She speaks for me!
To those who would say that we need leaders "smarter than ourselves", I say, It is a universal tenet of Democracy that no one is!
(I stole much of that last line from P,J. O'rourke. :-) )
I think McCain must have bad advisors. The way they hid her from the media, only to have her be exposed to Charlie (I'm not as handsome as Mel) Gibson and Katie (I have a bowling ball up my azz) Couric..... They should have had her on every local tv station in middle america doing interviews, talking with the people, etc.
McCain is a media snob.... how he thought she could get fair treatment from Charlie and Katie.... Balderdash!
agreed! i think McCain and Palin need to fire all their "handlers" and just talk. McCain at first said he didnt want the bailout, then he immediately went against his better judgement.
i want them to speak their minds, without being so edited.. and Palin looked just fine up there. Joe keeps touching her a lot afterwards though... weirdo.
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Someone go to my thread and tell me I'm wrong.
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Palin went Reagan! She spoke above the media and too the American people. I hoped I saw this early but I did have doubts. (shame on me) Free her McCain! send her out to everyone everywhere to speak.
She speaks for me!
To those who would say that we need leaders "smarter than ourselves", I say, It is a universal tenet of Democracy that no one is!
(I stole much of that last line from P,J. O'rourke. :-) )
I think McCain must have bad advisors. The way they hid her from the media, only to have her be exposed to Charlie (I'm not as handsome as Mel) Gibson and Katie (I have a bowling ball up my azz) Couric..... They should have had her on every local tv station in middle america doing interviews, talking with the people, etc.
McCain is a media snob.... how he thought she could get fair treatment from Charlie and Katie.... Balderdash!
agreed! i think McCain and Palin need to fire all their "handlers" and just talk. McCain at first said he didnt want the bailout, then he immediately went against his better judgement.
i want them to speak their minds, without being so edited.. and Palin looked just fine up there. Joe keeps touching her a lot afterwards though... weirdo.
I also never realized how much biden looks like spock's father until tonight.
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well, the knob twisters all thought palin won.
ummmmm, does anyone besides me think that Sarah may have been sand bagging in the interviews during the past two weeks?
I don't think so - too dangerous a manuever - I do think that she was getting intense education on Washington that had yet to settle out in her mind - It is extraordinary how much she has learned in so little time.
I also think the media did its best to wreck her. So, IMO, the MSM with its palin hate is its own worst enemy.
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well, the knob twisters all thought palin won.
ummmmm, does anyone besides me think that Sarah may have been sand bagging in the interviews during the past two weeks?
honestly, nah... i think she just isnt used to the snotty liberal media playing the 'gotcha' game. she isnt used to that.
and it shows and it works for her.
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Someone go to my thread and tell me I'm wrong.
:rofl: Sorry, I'll try harder next time.
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the dump came back up . . . 10 minutes after the debate was over . . .
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The focus group results were very interesting. She won this hands down.
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I think McCain must have bad advisors. The way they hid her from the media, only to have her be exposed to Charlie (I'm not as handsome as Mel) Gibson and Katie (I have a bowling ball up my azz) Couric..... They should have had her on every local tv station in middle america doing interviews, talking with the people, etc.
McCain is a media snob.... how he thought she could get fair treatment from Charlie and Katie.... Balderdash!
He is a media snob and I'm ashamed that I did not trust my first thoughts about her and had my doubts.
Maybe this was part of the "get momentom late thinking" you mentioned before. Still, even if it was, McCain did underestimate her as much as his "old media" friends. If this is Palin unplugged, McCain never need have lost momentom in the first place.
:-)
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Someone go to my thread and tell me I'm wrong.
:rofl: Sorry, I'll try harder next time.
You're a real pal.
@#$%er!
:cheersmate:
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fred thompson is pointing out biden's factual errors on foxnews
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the dump came back up . . . 10 minutes after the debate was over . . .
Ive been reading the Dump -- full-on meltdown going on, followed by them DUing every poll they can find.
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well, the knob twisters all thought palin won.
ummmmm, does anyone besides me think that Sarah may have been sand bagging in the interviews during the past two weeks?
I don't think so - too dangerous a manuever - I do think that she was getting intense education on Washington that had yet to settle out in her mind - It is extraordinary how much she has learned in so little time.
I also think the media did its best to wreck her. So, IMO, the MSM with its palin hate is its own worst enemy.
I think it was a strategic move on the canpaigns part. Not only to school Palin on the issues but let the media & lefties stir the pot about sarah being just airhead. The pissed off women folk will need a little more than 3 weeks to get over being pissed about them slaming females.
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well, the knob twisters all thought palin won.
ummmmm, does anyone besides me think that Sarah may have been sand bagging in the interviews during the past two weeks?
I don't think so - too dangerous a manuever - I do think that she was getting intense education on Washington that had yet to settle out in her mind - It is extraordinary how much she has learned in so little time.
I also think the media did its best to wreck her. So, IMO, the MSM with its palin hate is its own worst enemy.
I think it was a strategic move on the canpaigns part. Not only to school Palin on the issues but let the media & lefties stir the pot about sarah being just airhead. The pissed off women folk will need a little more than 3 weeks to get over being pissed about them slaming females.
well, if she had been sandbagging, and she was trying to hype up the viewership for the debate so she could clobber him in front of a huge audience, she couldn't have done a better job.
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fred thompson is pointing out biden's factual errors on foxnews
and Greta Van Sustern talking about how 'electrified' everyone was who were there to see the debate.
Palin did beautifully..
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Im listening to the Biden/Obama spin - not very much to say.
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Im listening to the Biden/Obama spin - not very much to say.
I'm sure I'll get an eye-full at work. The only working TV display on the floor is tuned to CNN Headline News. The sound is turned off, which makes it a little strange to watch, but the video is enough to convey their message for them. Repeated (negative) coverage of Tina Fey as Palin on SNL and lots of favorable coverage for the Messiah with a sprinling of John McCain.
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Im listening to the Biden/Obama spin - not very much to say.
I'm sure I'll get an eye-full at work. The only working TV display on the floor is tuned to CNN Headline News. The sound is turned off, which makes it a little strange to watch, but the video is enough to convey their message for them. Repeated (negative) coverage of Tina Fey as Palin on SNL and lots of favorable coverage for the Messiah with a sprinling of John McCain.
Exactly - nothing to say. So, they are going to the irrelevant to make their point.
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Oh boy - Mccaskill going on with McCain=Bush and that McCain is Palin's real enemy. Crazy... Crazy for feeling..Like a moonbat..
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Someone go to my thread and tell me I'm wrong.
I don't like negativism. One time a pastor of a church I belonged to told me whatever I fear I make a false god. So you can have as much fear as you like but I don't want to play along.
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The Rove approves of Palin. Case closed :hyper:
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I found this on FR....LOL
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/Foam_Kitty/bidendepot.jpg)
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I found this on FR....LOL
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y131/Foam_Kitty/bidendepot.jpg)
All I could think of while looking at that picture was this ..
"Debating makes me hungry - I wanna five - five dollar footlong ! "
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well, the knob twisters all thought palin won.
ummmmm, does anyone besides me think that Sarah may have been sand bagging in the interviews during the past two weeks?
I don't think so - too dangerous a manuever - I do think that she was getting intense education on Washington that had yet to settle out in her mind - It is extraordinary how much she has learned in so little time.
I also think the media did its best to wreck her. So, IMO, the MSM with its palin hate is its own worst enemy.
I think it was a strategic move on the canpaigns part. Not only to school Palin on the issues but let the media & lefties stir the pot about sarah being just airhead. The pissed off women folk will need a little more than 3 weeks to get over being pissed about them slaming females.
well, if she had been sandbagging, and she was trying to hype up the viewership for the debate so she could clobber him in front of a huge audience, she couldn't have done a better job.
I started wondering this myself yesterday, when a photo shot was released of Palin and someone standing behind podiums out in the grass under trees on McCain's ranch. I thought what a dumb thing to do to show her practicing and then give the media the opportunity to make fun of the surroundings were not "appropriate" for her to "practice a debate, for heaven's sake!"
The expectations were quite low for Palin.
I had Fox on last night and most of the day today and all I heard was she just can't do this. She's not ready to be a "heart beat from the Presidency". And on and on and on.
Honestly....I was getting really depressed. Wondering what's going to happen to the economy, I'm self-employed so is my other half....what's going to happen.
I'm not so depressed now.
Sarah Palin was outstanding tonight. I finally felt like there was someone running for office that knew what "real life" is like for the majority of our fellow citizens.
John McCain is going to keep us safe and make sure our battles are safe.
Sarah Palin is going to work on keeping us in our homes, our jobs and continuing to prosper.
Hell of a combination!!!!
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well, the knob twisters all thought palin won.
ummmmm, does anyone besides me think that Sarah may have been sand bagging in the interviews during the past two weeks?
I don't think so - too dangerous a manuever - I do think that she was getting intense education on Washington that had yet to settle out in her mind - It is extraordinary how much she has learned in so little time.
I also think the media did its best to wreck her. So, IMO, the MSM with its palin hate is its own worst enemy.
I think it was a strategic move on the canpaigns part. Not only to school Palin on the issues but let the media & lefties stir the pot about sarah being just airhead. The pissed off women folk will need a little more than 3 weeks to get over being pissed about them slaming females.
well, if she had been sandbagging, and she was trying to hype up the viewership for the debate so she could clobber him in front of a huge audience, she couldn't have done a better job.
I started wondering this myself yesterday, when a photo shot was released of Palin and someone standing behind podiums out in the grass under trees on McCain's ranch. I thought what a dumb thing to do to show her practicing and then give the media the opportunity to make fun of the surroundings were not "appropriate" for her to "practice a debate, for heaven's sake!"
The expectations were quite low for Palin.
I had Fox on last night and most of the day today and all I heard was she just can't do this. She's not ready to be a "heart beat from the Presidency". And on and on and on.
Honestly....I was getting really depressed. Wondering what's going to happen to the economy, I'm self-employed so is my other half....what's going to happen.
I'm not so depressed now.
Sarah Palin was outstanding tonight. I finally felt like there was someone running for office that knew what "real life" is like for the majority of our fellow citizens.
John McCain is going to keep us safe and make sure our battles are safe.
Sarah Palin is going to work on keeping us in our homes, our jobs and continuing to prosper.
Hell of a combination!!!!
and hopefully keep pelosi and reid from creating the USSA.
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The seventh seal has just been broken. Dick Morris just handed Colmes his ass. :popcorn:
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The seventh seal has just been broken. Dick Morris just handed Colmes his ass. :popcorn:
Morris was pissed!!!!
Did you notice the lady Dem prior to Morris would not answer Hannity's question? Kept saying it wasn't important that Obama said the troops were aerating Iraqi villages. :thatsright:
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the fact that she did so well tonight, as opposed to those awkward interviews, and her closing comments about enjoying talking directly to the american people "without being filtered by the mainstream media" could open a potentially effective line of attack on the campaign. and it's a valid question, how could she have looked so awful when edited by the MSM, and so good when she is talking directly to the voters? the obvious answer is 'because the MSM is in the tank for obama".
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the fact that she did so well tonight, as opposed to those awkward interviews, and her closing comments about enjoying talking directly to the american people "without being filtered by the mainstream media" could open a potentially effective line of attack on the campaign. and it's a valid question, how could she have looked so awful when edited by the MSM, and so good when she is talking directly to the voters? the obvious answer is 'because the MSM is in the tank for obama".
I cheered when she did that. That's the kind of fight McCain needs to bring with him to his debates.
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the fact that she did so well tonight, as opposed to those awkward interviews, and her closing comments about enjoying talking directly to the american people "without being filtered by the mainstream media" could open a potentially effective line of attack on the campaign. and it's a valid question, how could she have looked so awful when edited by the MSM, and so good when she is talking directly to the voters? the obvious answer is 'because the MSM is in the tank for obama".
totally agreed - Palin unfiltered is great. Palin edited sucks. the distinction is clear to everyone who is willing to open their eyes. We all know that tomorrow the media will declare Biden the winner (save for FOX) because of the ridiculous way they slant their focus groups. But thankfully they are now devoid of clips to play that support that thesis. Hopefully enough of the independents will respond positively.
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We all know that tomorrow the media will declare Biden the winner (save for FOX) because of the ridiculous way they slant their focus groups. But thankfully they are now devoid of clips to play that support that thesis.
They've already started. ABC Radio's news has O'Biden "winning" by replaying his assertion that Palin was wong on some issue, followed by a statistic pulled from Joe's nether-regions.
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the MSM is in full spin mode. again.
Poll: Biden wins debate, Palin exceeds expectations
(CNN) – A national poll of people who watched the vice presidential debate suggests that Democratic Sen. Joe Biden won but also hints that Republican Gov. Sarah Palin exceeded expectations.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey is not a measurement of the views of all Americans, since only people who watched the debate were questioned.
Fifty-one percent of those polled thought Biden did the best job in Thursday night's debate, while 36 percent thought Palin did the best job.
But respondents said the folksy Palin was more likable, scoring 54 percent to Biden's 36 percent.
Both candidates exceeded expectations — 84 percent of the people polled said Palin did a better job than they expected, while 64 percent said Biden also exceeded expectations.
But on the question of the candidates' qualifications to assume the presidency, 87 percent of the people polled said Biden is qualified while only 42 percent said Palin is qualified.
more (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/poll-biden-wins-debate-palin-exceeds-expectations/)
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We all know that tomorrow the media will declare Biden the winner (save for FOX) because of the ridiculous way they slant their focus groups. But thankfully they are now devoid of clips to play that support that thesis.
They've already started. ABC Radio's news has O'Biden "winning" by replaying his assertion that Palin was wong on some issue, followed by a statistic pulled from Joe's nether-regions.
we'll see if she punched through with people that don't work in washington, DC or new york. I strongly suspect that she did.
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It's an Orwellian world now, double-speak. ^
Wonder if they've realized NOW that they're not going to be able to get her off this ticket?
The seventh seal has just been broken. Dick Morris just handed Colmes his ass. :popcorn:
Yes, I saw that - he really didn't like it when Colmes kept interrupting him, which is all he's been doing lately anyways. Whenever there's another liberal on H & C, they then just parrot the DNC talking points to each other.
Morris was still pissed when it was Hannity's turn, but Hannity just laughed about it. The whole episode was rather fun, as it was earlier when BoR lost it with Barney.
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JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES TONIGHT
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way†as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.†But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping†the Outer Continental Shelf.â€
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraqâ€, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.â€
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.
http://ace.mu.nu/
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If I didn't know better, I would swear that I saw a few throbbing blood vessels on Biden's forehead.
He'd probably do a good William Shatner impression.
"IIIIIIIIIIIII'MMMMM Captainnnnnnnnnnn Kiiirrrrrrrkkkkkk
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/junkinessblog/shatner.jpg)
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OK, Schadie, here's your chance at retribution.... :-)
I'm old enough to remember income averaging and a tax credit for interest paid on credit cards during Reagan's regime, among other things.
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Playing the Reagan card--very smart!!! And all Joe can come back with his "35 years in the Senate".
Joe, you're not telling us anything new. What you ARE telling us is that you're part of the entrenched problem that got us to this point in the first place!!!!
What he's saying is this. 35 years in the Senate and I have nothing to show for it.
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The primitives are DUing the poll on Drudge now; Sarah down one, Joe up one in the past half hour.
Sarah Palin 71%
Old Joe 27%
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The primitives are DUing the poll on Drudge now; Sarah down one, Joe up one in the past half hour.
Sarah Palin 71%
Old Joe 27%
Vote number 138,487 for Palin (in my rose colored glasses). Thanks Frank.
Night all! :cheersmate:
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Got home a little while ago from STL University, where there was a gathering of probably 10-11k people watching on the jumbotrons in their new basketball arena for the St Louis Billikins. It was cool watching SaraCuda and stl loves Sarah and Sarah Rocks streaming across the electronic banner that went around the entire arena.
We thought Sarah did terrific. So did everyone else. Right after the debate (well, maybe 15 or 20 minutes afterward), Sarah arrived on a bus that came right into the ampitheater. The place went crazy.
And some of those pinko people tried to disrupt with their stupid pink banner. Some students grabbed it away, they were booed, cops started after them and Sarah just smiled and said that's why her son and all the others in Iraq and elsewhere fight for the right of those people to act that way. She got an ovation (everyone was already standing).
People there were nervous at first, but it was cool to feel the entire crowd get with the debate and almost all relax at the same time. We know that she won.
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Joe Biden has 35 years of Senate experience, but has a huge ego that will cause Obama/Biden to crash.
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(http://i35.tinypic.com/23t1ttg.jpg)
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(http://i35.tinypic.com/23t1ttg.jpg)
She had some kick ass red spike heels on last night!
Read somewhere that she loves to wear red spikes....that they give her confidence.
Keep wearing them Sarah....they really worked for you last night!! :bow:
You go kick 'em, Sarah!
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JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIES TONIGHT
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way†as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.†But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping†the Outer Continental Shelf.â€
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraqâ€, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.â€
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.
http://ace.mu.nu/
I'll be printing that one up for the moonbats at work. Well, most of them make minimum wage so they think that the Obamessiah will come along to save them.
I missed a lot of the debate yesterday, but I did see the last 10 minutes or so. I liked how Palin looked directly into the camera as she was speaking to the American people rather than the immoderate moderator. I'm sure a lot of fence sitters saw that too and were in favor of Palin.
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Incredible, really--I'm sure the Obama/Biden campaign was aware of and warned of the fact that Palin would 1--not go quietly, 2--handed her opponents their heads in debates more than once.
Yet still they chose to ignore this information, and it bit them squarely in the ass.
Now if only a few more Morris types were on the other networks bitchslapping the idiot talking heads. Nah, all that would have accomplished is making hands sore. Biden could have had a full-blown meltdown onstage and they'd still be claiming he won. Come to think of it, he came pretty darned close a few times.
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She had some kick ass red spike heels on last night!
Read somewhere that she loves to wear red spikes....that they give her confidence.
Keep wearing them Sarah....they really worked for you last night!! :bow:
You go kick 'em, Sarah!
I love that she doesn't hide her feminimity. She is proving that being feminine and beautiful doesn't preclude you from getting to hang with the big boys in Washington.
She is a stark contrast to Pelosi and Clinton who are ugly women inside and out.
Sarah is such a fresh voice on the political scene. I love that McCain took this risk with her.
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OK, Schadie, here's your chance at retribution.... :-)
I'm old enough to remember income averaging and a tax credit for interest paid on credit cards during Reagan's regime, among other things.
Well gosh darn it Thor, there you go again. :-)
I am so a Sarah Wannabe. :lmao:
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She had some kick ass red spike heels on last night!
Read somewhere that she loves to wear red spikes....that they give her confidence.
Keep wearing them Sarah....they really worked for you last night!! :bow:
You go kick 'em, Sarah!
I love that she doesn't hide her feminimity. She is proving that being feminine and beautiful doesn't preclude you from getting to hang with the big boys in Washington.
She is a stark contrast to Pelosi and Clinton who are ugly women inside and out.
Sarah is such a fresh voice on the political scene. I love that McCain took this risk with her.
Ol' "Cotton" McCain don't need any propane in his rogaine, Look at the women he picks which to surround him self. :naughty:
Edited to add: My Teenage son says "Sarah Palin is themost googled VP nominee ever. Some even get on the internet and enter her name into a search engine to learn more about her" :evillaugh: :tongue:
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She had some kick ass red spike heels on last night!
Read somewhere that she loves to wear red spikes....that they give her confidence.
Keep wearing them Sarah....they really worked for you last night!! :bow:
You go kick 'em, Sarah!
I love that she doesn't hide her feminimity. She is proving that being feminine and beautiful doesn't preclude you from getting to hang with the big boys in Washington.
She is a stark contrast to Pelosi and Clinton who are ugly women inside and out.
Sarah is such a fresh voice on the political scene. I love that McCain took this risk with her.
and that's exactly why those liberal bitches hate her so much, :cheersmate:
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OK, Schadie, here's your chance at retribution.... :-)
I'm old enough to remember income averaging and a tax credit for interest paid on credit cards during Reagan's regime, among other things.
Well gosh darn it Thor, there you go again. :-)
I am so a Sarah Wannabe. :lmao:
She's our role model. Last night at the debate watching party at SLU, they had a country singer named Sarah_____ (there was so much clapping and yelling SarahCuda that didn't hear her last night). She got the crowd whipped up right before Sarah came in by singing "I am woman hear me roar", then "Feel like a woman". I can't imagine them singing those songs for the Hildabeast. :-)
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OK, Schadie, here's your chance at retribution.... :-)
I'm old enough to remember income averaging and a tax credit for interest paid on credit cards during Reagan's regime, among other things.
Well gosh darn it Thor, there you go again. :-)
I am so a Sarah Wannabe. :lmao:
She's our role model. Last night at the debate watching party at SLU, they had a country singer named Sarah_____ (there was so much clapping and yelling SarahCuda that didn't hear her last night). She got the crowd whipped up right before Sarah came in by singing "I am woman hear me roar", then "Feel like a woman". I can't imagine them singing those songs for the Hildabeast. :-)
OMG, SLW!
do you mean that for women, Sarah Palin appealed to you? you would have never got that from the morning newshows.
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OMG, SLW!
do you mean that for women, Sarah Palin appealed to you? you would have never got that from the morning newshows.
You noticed that too I see - suddenly the meme is "Sarah is a turn-off to women, because all she is , is a shallow boy-toy who uses her sexuality to flirt her way to victory."
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In the news today the body of Sen. Joe Biden washed ashore, another victim of Hurrican Sarah. Services will be held as soon as they can find someone that gives a crap.
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In the news today the body of Sen. Joe Biden washed ashore, another victim of Hurrican Sarah. Services will be held as soon as they can find someone that gives a crap.
H5 :cheersmate: