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Title: Parenting advice ...
Post by: bijou on July 22, 2008, 03:43:36 PM
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MorningGlow  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul-16-08 10:07 PM
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A (crystal) child that feels too much?
 Advertisements [?]Oh dear, MG Jr. is only 4; I know we have many years of crises ahead of us...and yet, here's the first one, and of course it's worrying me no end.

He said yesterday that he had to tell me a secret that he'd been keeping for a long time ("the whole time I've been 4," he said). He said he feels sad all the time--even when he's happy, he still has a part of his mind that feels sad. He said he feels like crying when bad things happen to characters on TV shows, in books, etc. And sometimes he just feels like crying for no reason.

So we talked for a while about being an empath (dammit, he had to inherit THAT from me?) and what that means. I taught him how to bring up his shield. I told him about Kwan Yin and even put her statue, and the rest of the items I have for her altar, in his room. I said he could talk to Kwan Yin anytime, because she understands about compassion. And of course he should always talk to me. Each night, I've been asking him to tell me a few things that make him happy, so he doesn't focus too much on that sad feeling. And each night I've been asking Kwan Yin to watch over him.

I'm not sure what else to do. I know he'll be all right in the long run, because I was EXACTLY the same way at his age--I cried at the drop of a hat over just about anything that pushed my buttons (remember the commercial about pollution with the crying Indian? that would set me off for half an hour every time). I'm still that way, to an extent (don't show me a Hallmark commercial unless you've got stock in Kleenex!)

But...I don't want my kid to be sad! I don't want him to be so exposed to the world that he absorbs other people's emotions! (When he was really small--not even 2--he would get upset if he heard another child crying and couldn't differentiate between what he was feeling and what the other child was feeling.)

Oh my poor kid. Sigh. Just needed to get that off my chest, I guess.
 
It is always possible her little one is going through a phase (I don't have children so I couldn't say) but surely some children are more sensitive than others.  However the Astro forum is really the last place to go for advice judging by the tsunami of responses which are too long and many to bring over.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x72667#72989
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: TheSarge on July 22, 2008, 03:49:23 PM
Kids will claim to be said even when their happy just because their newest Yu-gi-oh card pack didn't come with Blue-eyed White Dragon. :whatever:

DUmmies shouldn't be allowed to hand out advice on raising Hamsters much less kids.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: dutch508 on July 22, 2008, 03:50:48 PM
oh, my ****ing God. They wonder why the little kid is screwed up!?

So we talked for a while about being an empath (dammit, he had to inherit THAT from me?) and what that means. I taught him how to bring up his shield. I told him about Kwan Yin and even put her statue, and the rest of the items I have for her altar, in his room.


there is your problem, Mam. You are a fruitcake.

 
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 22, 2008, 03:57:43 PM
My nine-month-old, who is a little (but growing rapidly) angel, would kick the ass of this "empath" in about five minutes.  At nine months old.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 22, 2008, 04:11:52 PM
I feel for the kid, though I suspect a lot of the current state is due to starting out with a psycho (excuse me, "Psychic") parent.  Fortunately I have never been cursed with excessively empathic feelings about potential targets (Oh, excuse me again, "Other living things").
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Zafod Beeblebrox on July 22, 2008, 04:13:50 PM
oh, my ******* God. They wonder why the little kid is screwed up!?

So we talked for a while about being an empath (dammit, he had to inherit THAT from me?) and what that means. I taught him how to bring up his shield. I told him about Kwan Yin and even put her statue, and the rest of the items I have for her altar, in his room.


there is your problem, Mam. You are a fruitcake.

 
No shit.
 
My son is sad because I wont let him eat a whole box of graham crackers in one sitting.

I guess I need to channel the mystic spirit of the the great wanahockaloogee and request that he fill my son with white light......
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Chris_ on July 22, 2008, 04:16:44 PM
Isn't that great spirit copyrighted?  [/sarcasm]
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Splashdown on July 22, 2008, 04:17:26 PM
There just are no words.  :mental:
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: PatriotGame on July 22, 2008, 04:38:59 PM
Looks like MorningGlow is carrying on her parents traditions of continual bong sucking and acid dropping while conceiving, bearing, and raising children.
The kid will end up the same as his mother - psychologically stunted, socially engineered, and mentally deranged for life.
Looks like the village has another candidate for king.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Chris_ on July 22, 2008, 04:45:30 PM
Bounce, bounce. Four-year-olds aren't developed enough to talk or think in that way. Negative 200 bongs and two glasses of ice water, one to drink and one to douse the DUmmy with for this non sense.

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MorningGlow  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jul-19-08 06:22 PM
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56. It always seems to me that they're grasping at straws
 They want so desperately to label everyone who isn't "dead average" with some sort of affliction and then medicate the hell out of them to bring them down to "dead average".


Common sense on DU? That won't last long. MorningGlow does have it right, but that's the entire point of socialism. She'll be TSed by evening.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: miskie on July 22, 2008, 04:47:37 PM
retarded. All children that young are emotional rollercoasters. The part of the mind that regulates and controls emotional response isn't fully developed, which is why a young kid can go from laughing like a madman to angry or sad in a nanosecond. They also have poor impulse control, and that makes the emotional responses even worse.

Your kid will grow out of it - unless you manage to turn your child into some poor-lost-misunderstood-emokid.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on July 22, 2008, 05:07:30 PM
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A (moonbat) child that feels too much?

Oh dear, MG Jr. is only 49; I know we have many years of crises ahead of us...and yet, here's the first one, and of course it's worrying me no end.

He said yesterday that he had to tell me a secret that he'd been keeping for a long time ("the whole time I've been 49," he said). He said he feels sad all the time--even when he's happy, he still has a part of his mind that feels sad. He said he feels like crying when bad things happen to characters on TV shows, in books, etc. And sometimes he just feels like crying for no reason.

So we talked for a while about his bad luck with his saving throws (dammit, he had to inherit THAT from me?) and what that means. I taught him how to bring up his +3 Shield of Bongs, gave him my Glowing Disco Spear of Incoherent Babbling, and told him to wear his Girdle of Opposite Gender that was once owned by a lumberjack. I told him about Moolor, the cow god and even put his statue, and the rest of the items I have for his altar, in his room. I said he could talk to Moolor anytime, because he understands about compassion and haggis. And of course he should always talk to me. Each night, I've been asking him to tell me a few things that make him happy, so he doesn't focus too much on that sad feeling. And each night I've been asking Moolor to watch over him and to please not eat him just yet.

I'm not sure what else to do. I know he'll be all right in the long run, because I was EXACTLY the same way at his age--I cried at the drop of a hat over just about anything that pushed my buttons (every time I see Bush or Cheney, for instance, or especially Reagan). I'm still that way, to an extent (don't show me a map of the 2004 election unless you've got stock in Kleenex!)

But...I don't want my kid to be sad! I don't want him to be exposed to the world so that he absorbs other people's emotions! I especially don't want him to meet any of those filthy right-wingers who will just pollute his mind with such nonsense as "responsibility", or worse, "religion"! BLECH! (When he was really small--not even 25--he would get upset if he heard another child crying and couldn't differentiate between what he was feeling and what the other child was feeling.)

Oh my poor kid. Sigh. Just needed to get that off my chest, I guess.
Fixed...
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 22, 2008, 05:52:34 PM
Unfortunately, it appears that Moonbattery can be inherited. ....and encouraged.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Chris_ on July 22, 2008, 05:55:28 PM
MG Jrs last art project:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/freedumb2003/growup1.jpg)
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: dutch508 on July 22, 2008, 06:16:12 PM
MG Jrs last art project:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/freedumb2003/growup1.jpg)


THAT'S NOT A BRASS POLE!!!

bitchslapped for erronious eroticism...
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: asdf2231 on July 22, 2008, 06:25:05 PM
The ONLY parenting advice you ever need:

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/asdf2231/shortbus/0ac71f1a.png)
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Vagabond on July 22, 2008, 07:05:45 PM
This kid ought to meet my kid.  A boy that was four months older than her when she was three tried to bully her.  She actually slapped him to the ground and jumped on him.  His parents say that was the last incident they know of that he tried to bully another kid.

edited for corrections.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Carl on July 22, 2008, 08:31:44 PM
oh, my ******* God. They wonder why the little kid is screwed up!?

So we talked for a while about being an empath (dammit, he had to inherit THAT from me?) and what that means. I taught him how to bring up his shield. I told him about Kwan Yin and even put her statue, and the rest of the items I have for her altar, in his room.


there is your problem, Mam. You are a fruitcake.

 

I bet if she had reported that she told the boy about Gods love and care through Christs work for us on the cross and with that knowledge he doesn`t need to be sad the DUmmies would want to take the kid away from her.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: DixieBelle on July 23, 2008, 08:35:31 AM
Oh my. Feeding the delusions there DU?
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: bijou on July 23, 2008, 08:55:38 AM
Oh my. Feeding the delusions there DU?
Yup, her and the 'support group'.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: VivisMom on July 23, 2008, 02:27:39 PM
Holy. Shit. WTF is WITH these people?

Seriously? Some kids are just more sensitive than others. I was a sensitive kid-I cried for 30 minutes when they froze Han Solo in the carbonite. I was totally and utterly distraught. But my parents didn't sit me down and fill my head with this 'empath' mumbo-jumbo; they told me it was just a movie, and that Han Solo wasn't real, and to get over it.

This kid is going to get the shit kicked out of him in high school.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: PatriotGame on July 23, 2008, 06:51:51 PM
Holy. Shit. WTF is WITH these people?

Seriously? Some kids are just more sensitive than others. I was a sensitive kid-I cried for 30 minutes when they froze Han Solo in the carbonite. I was totally and utterly distraught.
Goodness - I would presume that a discussion over Bambi is out of the question then?  :-)
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: VivisMom on July 23, 2008, 07:48:37 PM
Holy. Shit. WTF is WITH these people?

Seriously? Some kids are just more sensitive than others. I was a sensitive kid-I cried for 30 minutes when they froze Han Solo in the carbonite. I was totally and utterly distraught.
Goodness - I would presume that a discussion over Bambi is out of the question then?  :-)

What? Bambi and his mom live happily ever after in the forest...don't they??  :clueless:
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Chris_ on July 23, 2008, 08:01:49 PM
Seriously? Some kids are just more sensitive than others. I was a sensitive kid-I cried for 30 minutes when they froze Han Solo in the carbonite. I was totally and utterly distraught. But my parents didn't sit me down and fill my head with this 'empath' mumbo-jumbo; they told me it was just a movie, and that Han Solo wasn't real, and to get over it.

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/lucascarbonite.jpg)
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: DixieBelle on July 23, 2008, 08:10:09 PM
LOL Chris. I had to stare at that for a minute to get it....cute!
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Chris_ on July 23, 2008, 08:17:29 PM
Holy. Shit. WTF is WITH these people?

Seriously? Some kids are just more sensitive than others. I was a sensitive kid-I cried for 30 minutes when they froze Han Solo in the carbonite. I was totally and utterly distraught.
Goodness - I would presume that a discussion over Bambi is out of the question then?  :-)

What? Bambi and his mom live happily ever after in the forest...don't they??  :clueless:

[youtube=425,350]ZpBkc2jK-6w[/youtube]
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: VivisMom on July 24, 2008, 05:26:03 AM
Holy. Shit. WTF is WITH these people?

Seriously? Some kids are just more sensitive than others. I was a sensitive kid-I cried for 30 minutes when they froze Han Solo in the carbonite. I was totally and utterly distraught.
Goodness - I would presume that a discussion over Bambi is out of the question then?  :-)

What? Bambi and his mom live happily ever after in the forest...don't they??  :clueless:

[youtube=425,350]ZpBkc2jK-6w[/youtube]


BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Godzirra!  :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Red October on July 24, 2008, 05:52:01 AM
I told my son if he thinks he may be an empath, by God drink some whiskey.  It'll rub that shit out. 

Was I wrong?
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Tucker on July 24, 2008, 07:19:56 AM
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MorningGlow  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul-16-08 10:07 PM
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A (crystal) child that feels too much?

He said yesterday that he had to tell me a secret that he'd been keeping for a long time ("the whole time I've been 4," he said). He said he feels sad all the time--even when he's happy, he still has a part of his mind that feels sad. He said he feels like crying when bad things happen to characters on TV shows, in books, etc. And sometimes he just feels like crying for no reason.

And then

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Each night, I've been asking him to tell me a few things that make him happy, so he doesn't focus too much on that sad feeling. And each night I've been asking Kwan Yin to watch over him.

I thought this just happened yesterday. Why would you be spend several nights trying to make him overcome his feelings of sadness if he just told you yesterday that he was feeling sad  :thatsright:

Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: VivisMom on July 24, 2008, 07:29:49 AM
I just read the whole thread...chock full o'crazy.  :mental:

I seriously hope that my kid never makes friends with kids who have these kinds of parents. I don't think I'd be able to keep a straight face when they started spewing this 'empath' shit.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: bijou on July 24, 2008, 07:37:50 AM
I just read the whole thread...chock full o'crazy.  :mental:

I seriously hope that my kid never makes friends with kids who have these kinds of parents. I don't think I'd be able to keep a straight face when they started spewing this 'empath' shit.
I don't think Crystal children (or Indigo children for that matter) are encouraged to mingle with ordinary children in case they learn bad habits.  :-)

Have you ever googled for Indigo children, it's hilarious.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: VivisMom on July 24, 2008, 08:44:12 AM
I just read the whole thread...chock full o'crazy.  :mental:

I seriously hope that my kid never makes friends with kids who have these kinds of parents. I don't think I'd be able to keep a straight face when they started spewing this 'empath' shit.
I don't think Crystal children (or Indigo children for that matter) are encouraged to mingle with ordinary children in case they learn bad habits.  :-)

Have you ever googled for Indigo children, it's hilarious.

Oh. My.

So this is from one website. I'll provide my interpretation in a moment.

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They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it)
They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."
 They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
They get frustrated with systems that are ritually oriented and don't require creative thought.
They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").
They are not shy in letting you know what they need.


In other words, they're poorly disciplined!

Kids will be kids, and for some, that means having (and OVERCOMING) issues with authority, and learning how to play nicely with others. It seems to me that this is just a convenient excuse for people to have undisciplined children.  :whatever:

Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: DixieBelle on July 24, 2008, 10:00:08 AM
^ditto!

It's basically lazy-assed parenting that indulges this B.S.

Are there kids who are a bit sensitive and have trouble keeping up with the pack? Of course. But labeling them as some sort of mysterious otherworldly being is wrongheaded and only perpetuates the isolation. And breeds another generation of self-entitled ninnys who can't hack it in the real world.

Oh my. I just stumbled onto the DUmmie reproduction system!
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: PatriotGame on July 24, 2008, 11:11:01 AM
Holy. Shit. WTF is WITH these people?

Seriously? Some kids are just more sensitive than others. I was a sensitive kid-I cried for 30 minutes when they froze Han Solo in the carbonite. I was totally and utterly distraught.
Goodness - I would presume that a discussion over Bambi is out of the question then?  :-)

What? Bambi and his mom live happily ever after in the forest...don't they??  :clueless:

Didn't Bambi's daddy die?
Oh well....I'm going back to my reading of Where the Red Fern Grows. We can discuss later if you like.
Big Dan, Little Ann et all.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: PatriotGame on July 24, 2008, 11:12:35 AM
I told my son if he thinks he may be an empath, by God drink some whiskey.  It'll rub that shit out. 

Was I wrong?

I think that is the recommended AMA treatment.
BTW, can I be your son?  :o
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: VivisMom on July 24, 2008, 01:07:56 PM
^ditto!

It's basically lazy-assed parenting that indulges this B.S.

Are there kids who are a bit sensitive and have trouble keeping up with the pack? Of course. But labeling them as some sort of mysterious otherworldly being is wrongheaded and only perpetuates the isolation. And breeds another generation of self-entitled ninnys who can't hack it in the real world.

Oh my. I just stumbled onto the DUmmie reproduction system!

That's what used to KILL me as a teacher...the parents would be all like, "my kid is sensitive" and in the back of my mind I'm going no, your kid is just a brat!

I'm going to make a confession: I ascribe to the school of somewhat-lazy parenting. I'm not the kind of mom who flips out when her kid eats something off the floor, or insists that her kid never ever watch TV, or obsessively washes her kid's hands. But what I have noticed is that many of the parents who DO freak out when Junior eats a handful of sand are the exact same ones who don't teach their kids that hitting is bad, that we don't take toys from others, that we have to wait our turn, and don't teach their kids to say please and thank you.

This whole 'indigo child' bullshit is just an excuse for parents to not have to be bad guys. The epidemic of kids on the 'autism spectrum' or who have ODD (which is the most BS thing EVER) isn't anything to do with vaccines or childhood illnesses, it's because of sissy-assed parents who refuse to actually parent their kids. Rather than making your kid learn to wait, or teaching them about sharing, they make crap excuses up and give actual autistic kids a bad name.

I hate having to parent other people's kids (in public), but I do it. I'm not shy about it, either.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on July 24, 2008, 01:47:45 PM
^ditto!

It's basically lazy-assed parenting that indulges this B.S.

Are there kids who are a bit sensitive and have trouble keeping up with the pack? Of course. But labeling them as some sort of mysterious otherworldly being is wrongheaded and only perpetuates the isolation. And breeds another generation of self-entitled ninnys who can't hack it in the real world.

Oh my. I just stumbled onto the DUmmie reproduction system!

That's what used to KILL me as a teacher...the parents would be all like, "my kid is sensitive" and in the back of my mind I'm going no, your kid is just a brat!

I'm going to make a confession: I ascribe to the school of somewhat-lazy parenting. I'm not the kind of mom who flips out when her kid eats something off the floor, or insists that her kid never ever watch TV, or obsessively washes her kid's hands. But what I have noticed is that many of the parents who DO freak out when Junior eats a handful of sand are the exact same ones who don't teach their kids that hitting is bad, that we don't take toys from others, that we have to wait our turn, and don't teach their kids to say please and thank you.

This whole 'indigo child' bullshit is just an excuse for parents to not have to be bad guys. The epidemic of kids on the 'autism spectrum' or who have ODD (which is the most BS thing EVER) isn't anything to do with vaccines or childhood illnesses, it's because of sissy-assed parents who refuse to actually parent their kids. Rather than making your kid learn to wait, or teaching them about sharing, they make crap excuses up and give actual autistic kids a bad name.

I hate having to parent other people's kids (in public), but I do it. I'm not shy about it, either.

I was (blessedly) unfamiliar with the "Indigo" BS until this thread prompted me to Google it.  What a load of crap, but I can easily see how parents who buy into this drivel produce brats, and the same with the overprotective bubble-baby parents which abound.  Both types of parents are prone to behaviors which teach their children they are so 'special' that they can do any damned thing they want.

My own kids had an upbringing that was mellow and nurturing by my generation's standards, but would be viewed as disorganized, unsafe and not real sanitary by the current crop of would-be experts, yet they all turned out adaptable and stable, which is a Hell of a lot more than I can say for your typical social worker's kids.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: VivisMom on July 24, 2008, 02:12:04 PM
^ditto!

It's basically lazy-assed parenting that indulges this B.S.

Are there kids who are a bit sensitive and have trouble keeping up with the pack? Of course. But labeling them as some sort of mysterious otherworldly being is wrongheaded and only perpetuates the isolation. And breeds another generation of self-entitled ninnys who can't hack it in the real world.

Oh my. I just stumbled onto the DUmmie reproduction system!

That's what used to KILL me as a teacher...the parents would be all like, "my kid is sensitive" and in the back of my mind I'm going no, your kid is just a brat!

I'm going to make a confession: I ascribe to the school of somewhat-lazy parenting. I'm not the kind of mom who flips out when her kid eats something off the floor, or insists that her kid never ever watch TV, or obsessively washes her kid's hands. But what I have noticed is that many of the parents who DO freak out when Junior eats a handful of sand are the exact same ones who don't teach their kids that hitting is bad, that we don't take toys from others, that we have to wait our turn, and don't teach their kids to say please and thank you.

This whole 'indigo child' bullshit is just an excuse for parents to not have to be bad guys. The epidemic of kids on the 'autism spectrum' or who have ODD (which is the most BS thing EVER) isn't anything to do with vaccines or childhood illnesses, it's because of sissy-assed parents who refuse to actually parent their kids. Rather than making your kid learn to wait, or teaching them about sharing, they make crap excuses up and give actual autistic kids a bad name.

I hate having to parent other people's kids (in public), but I do it. I'm not shy about it, either.

I was (blessedly) unfamiliar with the "Indigo" BS until this thread prompted me to Google it.  What a load of crap, but I can easily see how parents who buy into this drivel produce brats, and the same with the overprotective bubble-baby parents which abound.  Both types of parents are prone to behaviors which teach their children they are so 'special' that they can do any damned thing they want.

My own kids had an upbringing that was mellow and nurturing by my generation's standards, but would be viewed as disorganized, unsafe and not real sanitary by the current crop of would-be experts, yet they all turned out adaptable and stable, which is a Hell of a lot more than I can say for your typical social worker's kids.

The whole 'everyone is special' crap that they hand out in schools is also partly to blame for the generation of poorly behaved children that is currently making their way through school. Like when I hear kids' sports teams don't have winners and losers, and everyone gets a trophy...what's the point? When I was a kid, games were to teach fairness, but also to teach winners how to be good winners and the losers how to handle defeat with grace. If there are no 'losers' then what does that teach our kids? That everything is always fair? Yeah, because that works out so well in the end.  :whatever:

I have very little patience with people who treat their kids like they're 'special.' Every kid is special, but they need to be able to recognize that in life, it's how you treat others that really matters. No matter how special my kid is, when she hits (or bites, as is the recent trend) she gets a time out. End of story. How else will she learn that other people matter? If she goes around thinking the world revolves around her and what she wants, she won't have many friends.

I feel like my job as a parent is: to love my kid, to teach my kid right from wrong, to get my kid educated, and have them be independent and self-sufficient. My job is not to make excuses for my kid, to let her do whatever she wants, and it's certainly not to make her think she's better than anyone else. Of course I want her to have a healthy view of herself, but not at the expense of her becoming unruly, rude, or poorly behaved.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Rebel Yell on July 24, 2008, 02:15:30 PM
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So we talked for a while about being an empath (dammit, he had to inherit THAT from me?)

Sounds to me like he inherited her "Crazy Gene".
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: DixieBelle on July 24, 2008, 02:34:58 PM
H5 Vivismom.

We don't believe in "Oh you're so special!!" either. I stopped my mother from praising my son (who was a toddler) for jumping off of a playground set and landing on his feet. I just looked at her and said, "So, we're gonna tell him he's good for obeying gravity?"

Don't get me wrong. I do praise my kid. But it's completely earned and done in such a way that doesn't inflate his ego. The world has enough of those people already.

And you're right about the P.C. crap in the schools and communities. Every kid on the soccer team got a trophy. All exactly alike. My son wasn't even excited about it. He threw it in the trunk of my car when we were packing up. He even commented that he couldn't understand why the kids who worked the hardest got the same crummy trophy as the kids who never showed up for practice.

I fear we'll pay a huge price for what's being done to this new generation.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: VivisMom on July 24, 2008, 02:46:35 PM
H5 Vivismom.

We don't believe in "Oh you're so special!!" either. I stopped my mother from praising my son (who was a toddler) for jumping off of a playground set and landing on his feet. I just looked at her and said, "So, we're gonna tell him he's good for obeying gravity?"

Don't get me wrong. I do praise my kid. But it's completely earned and done in such a way that doesn't inflate his ego. The world has enough of those people already.

And you're right about the P.C. crap in the schools and communities. Every kid on the soccer team got a trophy. All exactly alike. My son wasn't even excited about it. He threw it in the trunk of my car when we were packing up. He even commented that he couldn't understand why the kids who worked the hardest got the same crummy trophy as the kids who never showed up for practice.

I fear we'll pay a huge price for what's being done to this new generation.

Oh, we will.

I agree...praise needs to be earned. I praise my daughter at our gym class, when she does a somersault or hangs on the bar by herself, because those were things she learned how to do. But I will not praise her for eating all her food or not throwing her cup-I will thank her, but I will not tell her it makes her special or a good girl because those are things she is going to be expected to do as a functioning member of society.

The price we are going to pay is going to be huge. Just enormous. And sadly, I still think very little about how we rear our children (the collective, not the individual) will change.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Rebel Yell on July 24, 2008, 02:54:58 PM
H5 Vivismom.

We don't believe in "Oh you're so special!!" either. I stopped my mother from praising my son (who was a toddler) for jumping off of a playground set and landing on his feet. I just looked at her and said, "So, we're gonna tell him he's good for obeying gravity?"

Don't get me wrong. I do praise my kid. But it's completely earned and done in such a way that doesn't inflate his ego. The world has enough of those people already.

And you're right about the P.C. crap in the schools and communities. Every kid on the soccer team got a trophy. All exactly alike. My son wasn't even excited about it. He threw it in the trunk of my car when we were packing up. He even commented that he couldn't understand why the kids who worked the hardest got the same crummy trophy as the kids who never showed up for practice.

I fear we'll pay a huge price for what's being done to this new generation.

You want to see the worst examples of parenting, watch Nanny 911.  The Nanny isn't much better, my old man didn't worry about our feelings, except the feeling of that belt to our asses if we didn't behave.  It don't take kids long to figure out they can manipulate parents who are overly concerned with feelings.  Your children are not your friends, they can be that when they are grown.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Rebel Yell on July 24, 2008, 03:10:42 PM
H5 Vivismom.

We don't believe in "Oh you're so special!!" either. I stopped my mother from praising my son (who was a toddler) for jumping off of a playground set and landing on his feet. I just looked at her and said, "So, we're gonna tell him he's good for obeying gravity?"

Don't get me wrong. I do praise my kid. But it's completely earned and done in such a way that doesn't inflate his ego. The world has enough of those people already.

And you're right about the P.C. crap in the schools and communities. Every kid on the soccer team got a trophy. All exactly alike. My son wasn't even excited about it. He threw it in the trunk of my car when we were packing up. He even commented that he couldn't understand why the kids who worked the hardest got the same crummy trophy as the kids who never showed up for practice.

I fear we'll pay a huge price for what's being done to this new generation.

You want to see the worst examples of parenting, watch Nanny 911.  The Nanny isn't much better, my old man didn't worry about our feelings, except the feeling of that belt to our asses if we didn't behave.  It don't take kids long to figure out they can manipulate parents who are overly concerned with feelings.  Your children are not your friends, they can be that when they are grown.

Reminds me of Chris Rock.......

"Man, I take care of my kids"
"Nigga, you SUPPOSE to take care of your kids!!"

"I ain't never been to jail."
"What, you want a cookie?"
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: Flame on July 24, 2008, 03:12:34 PM
Holy. Shit. WTF is WITH these people?

Seriously? Some kids are just more sensitive than others. I was a sensitive kid-I cried for 30 minutes when they froze Han Solo in the carbonite. I was totally and utterly distraught.
Goodness - I would presume that a discussion over Bambi is out of the question then?  :-)

What? Bambi and his mom live happily ever after in the forest...don't they??  :clueless:

Didn't Bambi's daddy die?
Oh well....I'm going back to my reading of Where the Red Fern Grows. We can discuss later if you like.
Big Dan, Little Ann et all.

damn...now that's an ending to a book I DID sob through.
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: DixieBelle on July 24, 2008, 03:16:20 PM
I'm a grown woman and I still wouldn't cross my mama :-)
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: CactusCarlos on July 24, 2008, 03:19:51 PM
Quote
They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it)
They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."
 They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
They get frustrated with systems that are ritually oriented and don't require creative thought.
They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").
They are not shy in letting you know what they need.

Irma Brown knows how to deal with Indigo children (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rnJ9PNvuQk)
Title: Re: Parenting advice ...
Post by: VivisMom on July 24, 2008, 06:33:03 PM
Quote
They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it)
They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."
 They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
They get frustrated with systems that are ritually oriented and don't require creative thought.
They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").
They are not shy in letting you know what they need.

Irma Brown knows how to deal with Indigo children (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rnJ9PNvuQk)


LMFAO!!!!!!