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[Chris_]

Holy. Shit. WTF is WITH these people?

Seriously? Some kids are just more sensitive than others. I was a sensitive kid-I cried for 30 minutes when they froze Han Solo in the carbonite. I was totally and utterly distraught.

Goodness - I would presume that a discussion over Bambi is out of the question then? 

What? Bambi and his mom live happily ever after in the forest...don't they??  :clueless:

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[VivisMom]

Holy. Shit. WTF is WITH these people?

Seriously? Some kids are just more sensitive than others. I was a sensitive kid-I cried for 30 minutes when they froze Han Solo in the carbonite. I was totally and utterly distraught.

Goodness - I would presume that a discussion over Bambi is out of the question then? 

What? Bambi and his mom live happily ever after in the forest...don't they??  :clueless:

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BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Godzirra! 

[Red October]

I told my son if he thinks he may be an empath, by God drink some whiskey.  It'll rub that shit out. 

Was I wrong?

[Tucker]

MorningGlow  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul-16-08 10:07 PM
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A (crystal) child that feels too much?

He said yesterday that he had to tell me a secret that he'd been keeping for a long time ("the whole time I've been 4," he said). He said he feels sad all the time--even when he's happy, he still has a part of his mind that feels sad. He said he feels like crying when bad things happen to characters on TV shows, in books, etc. And sometimes he just feels like crying for no reason.

And then

Each night, I've been asking him to tell me a few things that make him happy, so he doesn't focus too much on that sad feeling. And each night I've been asking Kwan Yin to watch over him.

I thought this just happened yesterday. Why would you be spend several nights trying to make him overcome his feelings of sadness if he just told you yesterday that he was feeling sad 

[VivisMom]

I just read the whole thread...chock full o'crazy. 

I seriously hope that my kid never makes friends with kids who have these kinds of parents. I don't think I'd be able to keep a straight face when they started spewing this 'empath' shit.

[bijou]

I just read the whole thread...chock full o'crazy. 

I seriously hope that my kid never makes friends with kids who have these kinds of parents. I don't think I'd be able to keep a straight face when they started spewing this 'empath' shit.

I don't think Crystal children (or Indigo children for that matter) are encouraged to mingle with ordinary children in case they learn bad habits. 

Have you ever googled for Indigo children, it's hilarious.

[VivisMom]

I just read the whole thread...chock full o'crazy. 

I seriously hope that my kid never makes friends with kids who have these kinds of parents. I don't think I'd be able to keep a straight face when they started spewing this 'empath' shit.

I don't think Crystal children (or Indigo children for that matter) are encouraged to mingle with ordinary children in case they learn bad habits. 

Have you ever googled for Indigo children, it's hilarious.

Oh. My.

So this is from one website. I'll provide my interpretation in a moment.

They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it)
They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."
 They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
They get frustrated with systems that are ritually oriented and don't require creative thought.
They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").
They are not shy in letting you know what they need.

In other words, they're poorly disciplined!

Kids will be kids, and for some, that means having (and OVERCOMING) issues with authority, and learning how to play nicely with others. It seems to me that this is just a convenient excuse for people to have undisciplined children. 

[DixieBelle]

^ditto!

It's basically lazy-assed parenting that indulges this B.S.

Are there kids who are a bit sensitive and have trouble keeping up with the pack? Of course. But labeling them as some sort of mysterious otherworldly being is wrongheaded and only perpetuates the isolation. And breeds another generation of self-entitled ninnys who can't hack it in the real world.

Oh my. I just stumbled onto the DUmmie reproduction system!

[PatriotGame]

Holy. Shit. WTF is WITH these people?

Seriously? Some kids are just more sensitive than others. I was a sensitive kid-I cried for 30 minutes when they froze Han Solo in the carbonite. I was totally and utterly distraught.

Goodness - I would presume that a discussion over Bambi is out of the question then? 

What? Bambi and his mom live happily ever after in the forest...don't they??  :clueless:

Didn't Bambi's daddy die?
Oh well....I'm going back to my reading of Where the Red Fern Grows. We can discuss later if you like.
Big Dan, Little Ann et all.

[PatriotGame]

I told my son if he thinks he may be an empath, by God drink some whiskey.  It'll rub that shit out. 

Was I wrong?

I think that is the recommended AMA treatment.
BTW, can I be your son? 

[VivisMom]

^ditto!

It's basically lazy-assed parenting that indulges this B.S.

Are there kids who are a bit sensitive and have trouble keeping up with the pack? Of course. But labeling them as some sort of mysterious otherworldly being is wrongheaded and only perpetuates the isolation. And breeds another generation of self-entitled ninnys who can't hack it in the real world.

Oh my. I just stumbled onto the DUmmie reproduction system!

That's what used to KILL me as a teacher...the parents would be all like, "my kid is sensitive" and in the back of my mind I'm going no, your kid is just a brat!

I'm going to make a confession: I ascribe to the school of somewhat-lazy parenting. I'm not the kind of mom who flips out when her kid eats something off the floor, or insists that her kid never ever watch TV, or obsessively washes her kid's hands. But what I have noticed is that many of the parents who DO freak out when Junior eats a handful of sand are the exact same ones who don't teach their kids that hitting is bad, that we don't take toys from others, that we have to wait our turn, and don't teach their kids to say please and thank you.

This whole 'indigo child' bullshit is just an excuse for parents to not have to be bad guys. The epidemic of kids on the 'autism spectrum' or who have ODD (which is the most BS thing EVER) isn't anything to do with vaccines or childhood illnesses, it's because of sissy-assed parents who refuse to actually parent their kids. Rather than making your kid learn to wait, or teaching them about sharing, they make crap excuses up and give actual autistic kids a bad name.

I hate having to parent other people's kids (in public), but I do it. I'm not shy about it, either.

[DumbAss Tanker]

^ditto!

It's basically lazy-assed parenting that indulges this B.S.

Are there kids who are a bit sensitive and have trouble keeping up with the pack? Of course. But labeling them as some sort of mysterious otherworldly being is wrongheaded and only perpetuates the isolation. And breeds another generation of self-entitled ninnys who can't hack it in the real world.

Oh my. I just stumbled onto the DUmmie reproduction system!

That's what used to KILL me as a teacher...the parents would be all like, "my kid is sensitive" and in the back of my mind I'm going no, your kid is just a brat!

I'm going to make a confession: I ascribe to the school of somewhat-lazy parenting. I'm not the kind of mom who flips out when her kid eats something off the floor, or insists that her kid never ever watch TV, or obsessively washes her kid's hands. But what I have noticed is that many of the parents who DO freak out when Junior eats a handful of sand are the exact same ones who don't teach their kids that hitting is bad, that we don't take toys from others, that we have to wait our turn, and don't teach their kids to say please and thank you.

This whole 'indigo child' bullshit is just an excuse for parents to not have to be bad guys. The epidemic of kids on the 'autism spectrum' or who have ODD (which is the most BS thing EVER) isn't anything to do with vaccines or childhood illnesses, it's because of sissy-assed parents who refuse to actually parent their kids. Rather than making your kid learn to wait, or teaching them about sharing, they make crap excuses up and give actual autistic kids a bad name.

I hate having to parent other people's kids (in public), but I do it. I'm not shy about it, either.

I was (blessedly) unfamiliar with the "Indigo" BS until this thread prompted me to Google it.  What a load of crap, but I can easily see how parents who buy into this drivel produce brats, and the same with the overprotective bubble-baby parents which abound.  Both types of parents are prone to behaviors which teach their children they are so 'special' that they can do any damned thing they want.

My own kids had an upbringing that was mellow and nurturing by my generation's standards, but would be viewed as disorganized, unsafe and not real sanitary by the current crop of would-be experts, yet they all turned out adaptable and stable, which is a Hell of a lot more than I can say for your typical social worker's kids.

[VivisMom]

^ditto!

It's basically lazy-assed parenting that indulges this B.S.

Are there kids who are a bit sensitive and have trouble keeping up with the pack? Of course. But labeling them as some sort of mysterious otherworldly being is wrongheaded and only perpetuates the isolation. And breeds another generation of self-entitled ninnys who can't hack it in the real world.

Oh my. I just stumbled onto the DUmmie reproduction system!

That's what used to KILL me as a teacher...the parents would be all like, "my kid is sensitive" and in the back of my mind I'm going no, your kid is just a brat!

I'm going to make a confession: I ascribe to the school of somewhat-lazy parenting. I'm not the kind of mom who flips out when her kid eats something off the floor, or insists that her kid never ever watch TV, or obsessively washes her kid's hands. But what I have noticed is that many of the parents who DO freak out when Junior eats a handful of sand are the exact same ones who don't teach their kids that hitting is bad, that we don't take toys from others, that we have to wait our turn, and don't teach their kids to say please and thank you.

This whole 'indigo child' bullshit is just an excuse for parents to not have to be bad guys. The epidemic of kids on the 'autism spectrum' or who have ODD (which is the most BS thing EVER) isn't anything to do with vaccines or childhood illnesses, it's because of sissy-assed parents who refuse to actually parent their kids. Rather than making your kid learn to wait, or teaching them about sharing, they make crap excuses up and give actual autistic kids a bad name.

I hate having to parent other people's kids (in public), but I do it. I'm not shy about it, either.

I was (blessedly) unfamiliar with the "Indigo" BS until this thread prompted me to Google it.  What a load of crap, but I can easily see how parents who buy into this drivel produce brats, and the same with the overprotective bubble-baby parents which abound.  Both types of parents are prone to behaviors which teach their children they are so 'special' that they can do any damned thing they want.

My own kids had an upbringing that was mellow and nurturing by my generation's standards, but would be viewed as disorganized, unsafe and not real sanitary by the current crop of would-be experts, yet they all turned out adaptable and stable, which is a Hell of a lot more than I can say for your typical social worker's kids.

The whole 'everyone is special' crap that they hand out in schools is also partly to blame for the generation of poorly behaved children that is currently making their way through school. Like when I hear kids' sports teams don't have winners and losers, and everyone gets a trophy...what's the point? When I was a kid, games were to teach fairness, but also to teach winners how to be good winners and the losers how to handle defeat with grace. If there are no 'losers' then what does that teach our kids? That everything is always fair? Yeah, because that works out so well in the end. 

I have very little patience with people who treat their kids like they're 'special.' Every kid is special, but they need to be able to recognize that in life, it's how you treat others that really matters. No matter how special my kid is, when she hits (or bites, as is the recent trend) she gets a time out. End of story. How else will she learn that other people matter? If she goes around thinking the world revolves around her and what she wants, she won't have many friends.

I feel like my job as a parent is: to love my kid, to teach my kid right from wrong, to get my kid educated, and have them be independent and self-sufficient. My job is not to make excuses for my kid, to let her do whatever she wants, and it's certainly not to make her think she's better than anyone else. Of course I want her to have a healthy view of herself, but not at the expense of her becoming unruly, rude, or poorly behaved.

[Rebel Yell]

So we talked for a while about being an empath (dammit, he had to inherit THAT from me?)

Sounds to me like he inherited her "Crazy Gene".

[DixieBelle]

H5 Vivismom.

We don't believe in "Oh you're so special!!" either. I stopped my mother from praising my son (who was a toddler) for jumping off of a playground set and landing on his feet. I just looked at her and said, "So, we're gonna tell him he's good for obeying gravity?"

Don't get me wrong. I do praise my kid. But it's completely earned and done in such a way that doesn't inflate his ego. The world has enough of those people already.

And you're right about the P.C. crap in the schools and communities. Every kid on the soccer team got a trophy. All exactly alike. My son wasn't even excited about it. He threw it in the trunk of my car when we were packing up. He even commented that he couldn't understand why the kids who worked the hardest got the same crummy trophy as the kids who never showed up for practice.

I fear we'll pay a huge price for what's being done to this new generation.

[VivisMom]

H5 Vivismom.

We don't believe in "Oh you're so special!!" either. I stopped my mother from praising my son (who was a toddler) for jumping off of a playground set and landing on his feet. I just looked at her and said, "So, we're gonna tell him he's good for obeying gravity?"

Don't get me wrong. I do praise my kid. But it's completely earned and done in such a way that doesn't inflate his ego. The world has enough of those people already.

And you're right about the P.C. crap in the schools and communities. Every kid on the soccer team got a trophy. All exactly alike. My son wasn't even excited about it. He threw it in the trunk of my car when we were packing up. He even commented that he couldn't understand why the kids who worked the hardest got the same crummy trophy as the kids who never showed up for practice.

I fear we'll pay a huge price for what's being done to this new generation.

Oh, we will.

I agree...praise needs to be earned. I praise my daughter at our gym class, when she does a somersault or hangs on the bar by herself, because those were things she learned how to do. But I will not praise her for eating all her food or not throwing her cup-I will thank her, but I will not tell her it makes her special or a good girl because those are things she is going to be expected to do as a functioning member of society.

The price we are going to pay is going to be huge. Just enormous. And sadly, I still think very little about how we rear our children (the collective, not the individual) will change.

[Rebel Yell]

H5 Vivismom.

We don't believe in "Oh you're so special!!" either. I stopped my mother from praising my son (who was a toddler) for jumping off of a playground set and landing on his feet. I just looked at her and said, "So, we're gonna tell him he's good for obeying gravity?"

Don't get me wrong. I do praise my kid. But it's completely earned and done in such a way that doesn't inflate his ego. The world has enough of those people already.

And you're right about the P.C. crap in the schools and communities. Every kid on the soccer team got a trophy. All exactly alike. My son wasn't even excited about it. He threw it in the trunk of my car when we were packing up. He even commented that he couldn't understand why the kids who worked the hardest got the same crummy trophy as the kids who never showed up for practice.

I fear we'll pay a huge price for what's being done to this new generation.

You want to see the worst examples of parenting, watch Nanny 911.  The Nanny isn't much better, my old man didn't worry about our feelings, except the feeling of that belt to our asses if we didn't behave.  It don't take kids long to figure out they can manipulate parents who are overly concerned with feelings.  Your children are not your friends, they can be that when they are grown.

[Rebel Yell]

H5 Vivismom.

We don't believe in "Oh you're so special!!" either. I stopped my mother from praising my son (who was a toddler) for jumping off of a playground set and landing on his feet. I just looked at her and said, "So, we're gonna tell him he's good for obeying gravity?"

Don't get me wrong. I do praise my kid. But it's completely earned and done in such a way that doesn't inflate his ego. The world has enough of those people already.

And you're right about the P.C. crap in the schools and communities. Every kid on the soccer team got a trophy. All exactly alike. My son wasn't even excited about it. He threw it in the trunk of my car when we were packing up. He even commented that he couldn't understand why the kids who worked the hardest got the same crummy trophy as the kids who never showed up for practice.

I fear we'll pay a huge price for what's being done to this new generation.

You want to see the worst examples of parenting, watch Nanny 911.  The Nanny isn't much better, my old man didn't worry about our feelings, except the feeling of that belt to our asses if we didn't behave.  It don't take kids long to figure out they can manipulate parents who are overly concerned with feelings.  Your children are not your friends, they can be that when they are grown.

Reminds me of Chris Rock.......

"Man, I take care of my kids"
"Nigga, you SUPPOSE to take care of your kids!!"

"I ain't never been to jail."
"What, you want a cookie?"

[Flame]

Holy. Shit. WTF is WITH these people?

Seriously? Some kids are just more sensitive than others. I was a sensitive kid-I cried for 30 minutes when they froze Han Solo in the carbonite. I was totally and utterly distraught.

Goodness - I would presume that a discussion over Bambi is out of the question then? 

What? Bambi and his mom live happily ever after in the forest...don't they??  :clueless:

Didn't Bambi's daddy die?
Oh well....I'm going back to my reading of Where the Red Fern Grows. We can discuss later if you like.
Big Dan, Little Ann et all.

damn...now that's an ending to a book I DID sob through.

[DixieBelle]

I'm a grown woman and I still wouldn't cross my mama

[CactusCarlos]

They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it)
They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."
 They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
They get frustrated with systems that are ritually oriented and don't require creative thought.
They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").
They are not shy in letting you know what they need.

Irma Brown knows how to deal with Indigo children

[VivisMom]

They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it)
They have a feeling of "deserving to be here," and are surprised when others don't share that.
Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents "who they are."
 They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
They simply will not do certain things; for example, waiting in line is difficult for them.
They get frustrated with systems that are ritually oriented and don't require creative thought.
They often see better ways of doing things, both at home and in school, which makes them seem like "system busters" (nonconforming to any system).
They seem antisocial unless they are with their own kind. If there are no others of like consciousness around them, they often turn inward, feeling like no other human understands them. School is often extremely difficult for them socially.
They will not respond to "guilt" discipline ("Wait till your father gets home and finds out what you did").
They are not shy in letting you know what they need.

Irma Brown knows how to deal with Indigo children

LMFAO!!!!!!