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primitive spins a first-time sexual harassment bouncy
« on: December 21, 2014, 08:42:09 PM »
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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:43 PM
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I was sexually harassed for the first time today. Thoughts that have been running through my head.

As the title says, I was harassed earlier today. It's the first time I've had anything more than a few catcalls directed at me. I'm not going to describe much about where and when it happened, as I don't want that information online.

It started when a man about twice my age, give or take a few years, began a conversation with me. He ended up making various comments about my penis, and he eventually mentioned he'd like to give me a blow job. I told him I wasn't interested and changed the subject. That worked for a while, but I ended up going with him to get electrical cords for something from a different room (one not in public view). He was saying something about how he was glad he got to meet me, and then started to give me a hug, which I was kinda trapped into doing. I pulled away quickly, but he still tried to touch me by grabbing my jacket and asking what type of material the inside was, while feeling my upper chest. At that point, I pushed his hand away roughly and stepped back, and headed out of the room. He followed me and made a bit more conversation, but he left soon after that.

Thankfully, it was fairly minor. I don't think that he meant badly (not that that's an excuse) and had I told him to back off more forcefully at first, I think he would have listened. I feel alright, though shaken. There's a few things I've been thinking about.

First, this bothers me a lot more than I thought it would. I'm used to reading about harassment, I have friends who I see endure it on a daily basis, and in all honesty, I expected it to happen at some point, just given the statistics. But I still feel unsettled. I'm not worried about it happening again, and I feel alright, but I'm still a little off. I can't imagine dealing with this every day, and worse.

I also re-learned a feeling that I'd partially forgotten: what it's like to feel scared, and powerless. I'm a big guy, and I've never had problems with feeling physically threatened before. When I'm on the streets at 3:00 in the morning, all it takes is a pissed-off look and a strong stride to avoid any trouble, even with people who want it. But when this guy gave me that hug, I felt utterly helpless. I probably would have been able to easily break his hold if I needed to, but I didn't think about anything more than I was in trouble. Today was also the first time I've ever been worried about being raped. It's gut-churning. I'm slowly feeling better, and smoking a bowl has really helped with the anxiety. There's a lot I understand a bit better right now. Again, I can't imagine what it would feel like not to be in my body, what it would be like to feel that way more often.

Not blaming myself has been surprisingly hard. Despite all the friends I've talked to, the number of essays I've now read about victim blaming and the psychology behind it, almost immediately after it happened I found myself thinking that I should have said something earlier, that I should have done something, made it more obvious than just saying I wasn't interested. That's all bullshit; I didn't do a thing wrong. He shouldn't have come on to me, he shouldn't have done any of it, and it's not my fault. But I feel like it is anyways.

Anyways, that's about it. I wanted to share this because I think it's important for men in situations like mine or who haven't had it directed towards them before to remember that we have no idea. Empathy is good, but fear and guilt and everything else that comes with sexual harassment and assault are hard to really understand without having it happen to you. When we're talking about issues that arise, we need to remember that there is a world of experiences that we're lucky enough not to have to deal with. We need to be aware that our understanding is limited.

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:28 PM
Star Member Mnemosyne (19,547 posts)
1. Glad you are alright. It does shake you. nt

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:02 PM
Vattel (5,259 posts)
2. I quit a job once due to sexual harasment that included touching my butt.

Psychologically it was no big deal though. It wasn't anything like being raped.

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:09 PM
roguevalley (34,839 posts)
3. take heart. those people are pathetic. I have gone through brutal harassment in my

career. It is hard to be a union officer and rights person and come out of the career at the end in one piece. Just know that the pathetic person who did this is so sad. It is soul destroying but you have had a window opened. Hugs to you from me.

Soul destroying??   ::)

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:09 PM
vlyons (682 posts)
4. Now you know what women feel like

I'm glad the instance didn't escalate, and that you're getting your mental serenity back in balance. Having said, "no thanks" to unwanted sexual overtures, no one should be harrassed as you were

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:09 PM
avebury (5,706 posts)
5. I don't know if you carry a cell phone but you

might want to consider practicing how to turn the video on it when it is your pocket to have an audio recording if such an event occurs again. Otherwise you might find yourself in a he said/ he said situation without proof.


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Re: primitive spins a first-time sexual harassment bouncy
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2014, 09:12:17 PM »
Oh for the good old days when it was OK to knock hell out of a queer if he didn't take "NO" for an answer.

Hey, I'm all for equal rights. Women are allowed to slap a man that won't take no for an answer aren't they?
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Re: primitive spins a first-time sexual harassment bouncy
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2014, 10:25:28 PM »
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I ended up going with him to get electrical cords.

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

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Re: primitive spins a first-time sexual harassment bouncy
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2014, 11:41:33 PM »
Oh for the good old days when it was OK to knock hell out of a queer if he didn't take "NO" for an answer.

Call me old fashioned,but that's exactly what I would do in that sort of situation.

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Re: primitive spins a first-time sexual harassment bouncy
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2014, 11:47:49 PM »
The homos on Skin's Island are trying to edge into Klam territory just like they tried to equate being gay with [insert ethnic minority].

I don't expect this to end well.
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Re: primitive spins a first-time sexual harassment bouncy
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2014, 11:49:14 PM »
Call me old fashioned,but that's exactly what I would do in that sort of situation.
I used to work with this flamingly gay man who made a Wizard Of Oz winged monkey joke in front of a black girl.

The begging afterward was humiliating.
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Re: primitive spins a first-time sexual harassment bouncy
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2014, 11:49:56 PM »
Call me old fashioned,but that's exactly what I would do in that sort of situation.

The difference is, the DUmmy spinning this tale is a queer himself.

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Re: primitive spins a first-time sexual harassment bouncy
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2014, 02:25:02 PM »
It would sound more credible if the girly man was sexually harassed by a woman or even a bulldyke.
There were only two options for gender. At last count there are at least 12, according to libs. By that standard, I'm a male lesbian.

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Re: primitive spins a first-time sexual harassment bouncy
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2014, 03:25:20 PM »
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He ended up making various comments about my penis
...and that is where I stopped reading. I did want to go through the mental gymnastics trying to figure out what one (or more ) of 10+ different genders this DUmmies considers itself.
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Re: primitive spins a first-time sexual harassment bouncy
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2014, 05:26:35 PM »
The difference is, the DUmmy spinning this tale is a queer himself.

Leading to a nugget of wisdom for the lurking DUmmies: Don't suck cock, and people won't expect you to be a cocksucker.
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