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primitives discuss ceiling fans
« on: December 05, 2014, 03:43:54 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11583483

Oh my.

Well, as of early afternoon, there's still too many primitives spewing their self-righteous racism in General Discussion, and it's still boring as Hell, so I went to a different forum for a change of pace.

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IrishAyes (6,030 posts)    Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:34 AM

Regarding ceiling fans

Has anyone else ever had the pull chain mechanism refuse to turn off the light?
 
Two years ago an Amish contractor, while here to do other things, offered to hang the ceiling fan for me. Well, it wouldn't work but I knew there were other possible causes for the problem so I let the matter drop. TWO YEARS LATER I finally got somebody to do electrical work and they found the other guy had just crossed the wires.
 
After a couple ecstatic weeks, all of a sudden the problem already described reared its ugly head. Took several minutes to get the danged thing turned off, which I can't do at the wall switch because that also controls the fan blades which are needed badly. Twice since, I've forgotten and turned it back on which seems to work easily enough; the blasted chain just doesn't seem to want to work in reverse.
 
Would a squirt of WD-40 in the chain cavity on the motor work and/or be safe to the electrical work?

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FBaggins (13,746 posts)   Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:43 AM

1. It's probably a bad switch on the pull chain

They aren't hard to replace with basic DIY skills (and the switches are cheap).

Here's an example of one type. After watching it, if you're comfortable with the level of effort necessary, you might open it up and find that the switch is just loose. If it isn't, then you'll see the type to pick up as a replacement.
 
Don't forget to turn off the power before working on the wiring.

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NYC_SKP (63,419 posts)    Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:02 AM

2. I've had this problem and it called for a new switch.

If you're feeling handy, you can disassemble it down to the switch, remove it and take it to the hardware store for an identical one.
 
WD40 won't help.

And do remember to turn off the breaker or pull the fuse to that circuit, and you will probably need two or three wire nuts to splice the switch back in to the wiring.
 
Take a picture with your phone or draw a diagram so that you put the wires back the correct way.
 
It's not that hard.

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Warpy (80,240 posts)   Mon Dec 1, 2014, 03:55 AM

3. Unless you know what the problem is, don't squirt anything into it.

Are you certain the fan blades and light are wired separately? My ceiling fan in the kitchen is, the one in the bedroom isn't. I know because I installed both of them.
 
Your best bet is to bite the financial bullet and have a real electrician come out and look at it. I say this because they're heavy buggers to take down.

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IrishAyes (6,030 posts)    Tue Dec 2, 2014, 12:05 AM

4. Are you guys saying NOT EVERYTHING can be fixed with WD-40 and duct tape?

I'm shocked.

Well, the friend/handyman married to my best friend can certainly do that; if I alert him to the problem, he'll know when he can come and fix it. He can do anything in a house, really.
 
That also makes me think of the problem with my upstairs attic ventilation fan. It's supposed to have 2 speeds on it, and that worked fine several years. But last summer it would click on low, not on high. Maybe it's a similar problem.
 
Naturally I'd hoped to be able to fix it myself. But at least I've got sense enough to ask! Thank you again, everyone.
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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2014, 04:04:14 PM »
It sounds like a case of...operator error.
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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2014, 04:05:56 PM »
Can wires be crossed on a light socket and it make a difference?

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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2014, 04:35:47 PM »
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3. Unless you know what the problem is, don't squirt anything into it.

That's good advice, no matter who you are.

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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2014, 05:59:52 PM »
Can wires be crossed on a light socket and it make a difference?

Absolutely. If you turn the light on, it gets darker in the room.

Similar to reversing the plug on a microwave oven and freezing everything you put in it.

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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2014, 06:24:15 PM »
This is how I imagine a primitive working on a ceiling fan:

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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2014, 10:59:01 PM »
The simple solution is to put a small trampoline under the ceiling fan.  Keep jumping up and tapping at the base of the switch where the change enters the fixture.

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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2014, 07:56:23 AM »
Simple solution: Unscrew light bulb to darken room....screw in to brighten room....but first, how many DUmmies does it take to screw in and out a light bulb?
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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2014, 09:49:38 PM »
Simple solution: Unscrew light bulb to darken room....screw in to brighten room....but first, how many DUmmies does it take to screw in and out a light bulb?

Libs would rather curse the darkness then light one candle.
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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2014, 07:21:46 PM »
Libs would rather curse the darkness then light one candle.

Lighting a candle requires effort, and burning candles give off CO2.  Lose lose.
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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2014, 12:59:36 AM »
Great. They just make ceiling fans depressing like they do to everything else.
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2014, 09:31:18 AM »
Is this the same Darwin Award DUmmy who heated oil in a percolator to warm their bathroom?

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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2014, 09:36:42 AM »
Is this the same Darwin Award DUmmy who heated oil in a percolator to warm their bathroom?

Awesome memory you got there, madam.

Yep, one and the same.

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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2014, 11:27:25 PM »
Is this the same Darwin Award DUmmy who heated oil in a percolator to warm their bathroom?



I wonder how many DUmmies have done that.
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2014, 01:15:24 AM »
I wonder how many DUmmies have done that.

The same amount who dunk frozen turkeys into boiling oil.
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2014, 08:34:31 AM »
The same amount who dunk frozen turkeys into boiling oil.

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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2014, 08:37:18 AM »
The same amount who dunk frozen turkeys into boiling oil.
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2014, 09:28:15 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2014, 02:25:29 PM »
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Strapped to a ceiling fan ?
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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2014, 02:33:42 PM »
Can wires be crossed on a light socket and it make a difference?

Not with a normal circuit with a separate ground wire, though there is a 'Better' way to do it.  Hard to imagine what the mythical Amish guy could have done that wouldn't have just blown the breaker.
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2014, 03:21:20 PM »
Strapped to a ceiling fan ?

Ceiling fan, bed, cellar pit, barcalounger whatever.  :-)
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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2014, 04:20:36 PM »
Not with a normal circuit with a separate ground wire, though there is a 'Better' way to do it.  Hard to imagine what the mythical Amish guy could have done that wouldn't have just blown the breaker.

I think he has some serious wiring issues.  He said in an earlier thread his bathroom electrical outlet was blown in his hundred year old house. 

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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2014, 04:39:02 PM »
I think he has some serious wiring issues.  He said in an earlier thread his bathroom electrical outlet was blown in his hundred year old house. 

http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=97683.50
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Re: primitives discuss ceiling fans
« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2014, 04:41:24 PM »
Watch for the upcoming "My house burned down" fund raiser.

Sounds like a set for a case of arson/insurance fraud.