Dummy uses Pope's words to attack Conservative Christians

[HawkHogan]

Star Member Segami (8,569 posts)

BOOM!! - The Pope Has A MESSAGE For Christian Fundamentalists: ‘YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN ISIS’


 



The Pope gave liberals an early Christmas Present this week, on a flight back from Turkey this week…by drawing a parallel between Christian Fundamentalists and Islamic terror groups such as ISIS. When a journalist attempted to draw the Pope into yet another condemnation of the world’s 2 billion Muslims on the basis of the actions of a few thousand – the pontiff dropped a logic bomb.

“You just can’t say that, just as you can’t say that all Christians are fundamentalists. We have our share of them (fundamentalists). All religions have these little groups,” Pope Francis said.

http://www.jpost.com/Christian-News/Pope-blasts-Christian-Muslim-fundamentalists-while-leaving-Turkey-383405


With this succinct, unapologetic statement – Pope Francis has said what many of us, religious and not, have been quietly thinking for some time: Christian and Muslim fundamentalists have far more in common with each other than the rest of us.
 


Was it US Muslims or Christians that lobbied against legislation outlawing spousal rape? Answer: Christians.

Virginia Republican Richard Black argued against such legislation in January 2014, stating that a woman could not be raped by her husband because she had already given consent through marriage.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/gop-congressional-candidate-richard-dick-black-spousal-rape-not-a-crime?utm_source=huffingtonpost.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pubexchange_article

Was it Muslims or Christians that used the state’s legal system to allow corporations to remove female workers’ control over their own reproductive health? Answer: Christians.

The US Supreme Court, dominated by Christian Conservatives, upheld the rights of corporations to bar women accessing birth control through their health insurance plans.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/what-the-hobby-lobby-ruling-means-for-america.html?_r=1

Was it a Christian or Muslim legislator who argued a woman could only get pregnant through consensual sex? Answer: The US Republican Party.

In 2012, Missouri Republican Todd Akin drew ire around the world for this comment:

“It seems to me, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare,” Mr. Akin said of pregnancies from rape. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/20/us/politics/todd-akin-provokes-ire-with-legitimate-rape-comment.html

Was it a Christian or Muslim fundamentalist news channel that put women on air to advise other women not to vote? Answer: Christian.

Fox News does this regularly, as in this October 2013 discussion of how married women tend to vote Republican and single women tend to vote Democratic:

“It’s the same reason why young women on juries are not a good idea. They don’t get it! They’re not in that same life experience of paying the bills, doing the mortgage, kids, community, crime, education, healthcare. They’re like healthy and hot and running around without a care in the world.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/23/1338606/-Fox-News-Young-women-shouldn-t-vote-or-be-on-juries-because-They-don-t-get-it#





Ok, so maybe there’s a parallel with women…but then there’s the violence. Christian fundamentalists aren’t terrorists are they? Answer: Yes they are.

Contrary to popular opinion, most of the terrorist activity in the U.S. in recent years has not come from Muslims, but from radical Christians, white supremacists, and far-right militia groups. Our friends at Alternet prepared an astonishing list of the 10 worst US terror attacks by Christian Fundamentalists which included:



* Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug 2012. white supremacist Wade Michael Page used a semiautomatic weapon to murder six people during an attack on a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin.

* The Dr. George Tiller Murder, May 2009. In 1986, his clinic was firebombed. In ’93, he was shot five times by female Christian Right terrorist Shelly Shannon (now serving time in a federal prison) but survived – but in May 2009 Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by anti-abortion terrorist Scott Roeder on May 31, 2009. He was a victim of Christian Right terrorism, not al-Qaeda.

* Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 2008. On July 27, 2008, Christian Right sympathizer Jim David Adkisson walked into the Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee during a children’s play and began shooting people at random. Two were killed, while seven others were injured but survived. Adkisson said he was motivated by a hatred of liberals, Democrats and gays.

* The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 1996. Eric Rudolph is is best known for carrying out the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta during the 1996 Summer Olympics—a blast that killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. His long list of terrorist attacks committed in the name of Christianity includes his bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama in 1998 caused the death of Robert Sanderson (a Birmingham police officer and part-time security guard) and caused nurse Emily Lyons to lose an eye.


http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/10-worst-terror-attacks-extreme-christians-and-far-right-white-men?page=0%2C1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025904113

Another thread trying to parallel conservative Christians with beheading jihadists.  This time the Dummy tried to use a quote from the pope to justify the parallel. 

Yes Dummy, as a conservative Christian, I don't believe that a closely-held Christian business should have to pay for aborticides. 
As a conservative Christian, I also believe that life begins at conception. 

Please tell me how these beliefs equate to beheading people and exterminating entire villages of African Christians. 

[JohnnyReb]

I hope the DUmmie is sitting on the fender of the next Muslim car bomb....maybe the muslims will share their virgins and young boys with him.

[Big Dog]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025904113

The pope also has a message for the DUmmies: Knock off the abortions and homo sex.

After they attend to the beam in their own eye, they can start to worry about the mote in the fundamentalists'.

[67 Rover]

I hope the DUmmie is sitting on the fender of the next Muslim car bomb....maybe the muslims will share their virgins and young boys with him.

[JohnnyReb]

[Ptarmigan]

Star Member Segami (8,569 posts)

BOOM!! - The Pope Has A MESSAGE For Christian Fundamentalists: ‘YOU'RE NO BETTER THAN ISIS’


 



The Pope gave liberals an early Christmas Present this week, on a flight back from Turkey this week…by drawing a parallel between Christian Fundamentalists and Islamic terror groups such as ISIS. When a journalist attempted to draw the Pope into yet another condemnation of the world’s 2 billion Muslims on the basis of the actions of a few thousand – the pontiff dropped a logic bomb.

“You just can’t say that, just as you can’t say that all Christians are fundamentalists. We have our share of them (fundamentalists). All religions have these little groups,” Pope Francis said.

http://www.jpost.com/Christian-News/Pope-blasts-Christian-Muslim-fundamentalists-while-leaving-Turkey-383405


With this succinct, unapologetic statement – Pope Francis has said what many of us, religious and not, have been quietly thinking for some time: Christian and Muslim fundamentalists have far more in common with each other than the rest of us.
 


Was it US Muslims or Christians that lobbied against legislation outlawing spousal rape? Answer: Christians.

Virginia Republican Richard Black argued against such legislation in January 2014, stating that a woman could not be raped by her husband because she had already given consent through marriage.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/gop-congressional-candidate-richard-dick-black-spousal-rape-not-a-crime?utm_source=huffingtonpost.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pubexchange_article

Was it Muslims or Christians that used the state’s legal system to allow corporations to remove female workers’ control over their own reproductive health? Answer: Christians.

The US Supreme Court, dominated by Christian Conservatives, upheld the rights of corporations to bar women accessing birth control through their health insurance plans.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/magazine/what-the-hobby-lobby-ruling-means-for-america.html?_r=1

Was it a Christian or Muslim legislator who argued a woman could only get pregnant through consensual sex? Answer: The US Republican Party.

In 2012, Missouri Republican Todd Akin drew ire around the world for this comment:

“It seems to me, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare,” Mr. Akin said of pregnancies from rape. “If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/20/us/politics/todd-akin-provokes-ire-with-legitimate-rape-comment.html

Was it a Christian or Muslim fundamentalist news channel that put women on air to advise other women not to vote? Answer: Christian.

Fox News does this regularly, as in this October 2013 discussion of how married women tend to vote Republican and single women tend to vote Democratic:

“It’s the same reason why young women on juries are not a good idea. They don’t get it! They’re not in that same life experience of paying the bills, doing the mortgage, kids, community, crime, education, healthcare. They’re like healthy and hot and running around without a care in the world.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/23/1338606/-Fox-News-Young-women-shouldn-t-vote-or-be-on-juries-because-They-don-t-get-it#





Ok, so maybe there’s a parallel with women…but then there’s the violence. Christian fundamentalists aren’t terrorists are they? Answer: Yes they are.

Contrary to popular opinion, most of the terrorist activity in the U.S. in recent years has not come from Muslims, but from radical Christians, white supremacists, and far-right militia groups. Our friends at Alternet prepared an astonishing list of the 10 worst US terror attacks by Christian Fundamentalists which included:



* Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug 2012. white supremacist Wade Michael Page used a semiautomatic weapon to murder six people during an attack on a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin.

* The Dr. George Tiller Murder, May 2009. In 1986, his clinic was firebombed. In ’93, he was shot five times by female Christian Right terrorist Shelly Shannon (now serving time in a federal prison) but survived – but in May 2009 Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by anti-abortion terrorist Scott Roeder on May 31, 2009. He was a victim of Christian Right terrorism, not al-Qaeda.

* Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 2008. On July 27, 2008, Christian Right sympathizer Jim David Adkisson walked into the Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee during a children’s play and began shooting people at random. Two were killed, while seven others were injured but survived. Adkisson said he was motivated by a hatred of liberals, Democrats and gays.

* The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 1996. Eric Rudolph is is best known for carrying out the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta during the 1996 Summer Olympics—a blast that killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. His long list of terrorist attacks committed in the name of Christianity includes his bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama in 1998 caused the death of Robert Sanderson (a Birmingham police officer and part-time security guard) and caused nurse Emily Lyons to lose an eye.


http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/10-worst-terror-attacks-extreme-christians-and-far-right-white-men?page=0%2C1

Wrong DUmmie! Most terrorist attacks in America are committed by ecoterrorists and animal rights group like ALF, ELF, PETA, etc.

Nine facts about terrorism in the United States since 9/11
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/11/nine-facts-about-terrorism-in-the-united-states-since-911/

ALF and ELF commit most terrorism in America. That is more than Al-Qaeda and KKK combined.

[JohnnyReb]

I finally see that I meet the requirements to be a terrorist....I don't agree with everything DUmmies believe.

[ChuckJ]

Was it Muslims or Christians that used the state’s legal system to allow corporations to remove female workers’ control over their own reproductive health? Answer: Christians.

When did this happen? I drive past an Ob_Gyn office almost every day and not once have I seen corporate goons blocking the entrance so women can't enter.

Perhaps the DUmmie is lying.

As for the rest of the Dummie's drivel, maybe h/s/it could make a list containing three columns. In the first column h/s/it could list out all of the murders committed this year by Fundamentalist Christians (even those just claiming to be Fundamentalist Christians) who committed the murders as part of their religion. In the second column h/s/it could list out all of the murders committed this year by Fundamentalist Muslims (even those just claiming to be Fundamentalist Muslims) who committed the murders as part of their religion. Finally, in the third column h/s/it could list out all of the murders committed this year by democrat voters. By the way, the third column would have to include all of the unborn babies murdered as a result of den-worshipped abortion.

After the DUmmie is done h/s/it could report back as to which list is the longest.

[Chris_]

Was it Muslims or Christians that used the state’s legal system to allow corporations to remove female workers’ control over their own reproductive health? Answer: Christians.

What reproductive rights do women in Muslim countries have?

[thundley4]

What reproductive rights do women in Muslim countries have?

They have the right to bear children or the right to be killed.  See, Muslims are big on women's rights.

[franksolich]

What reproductive rights do women in Muslim countries have?

Right.