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Cleveland’s plan to fight blight? Demolish 6,000 homes Lots being redeveloped as parks, greenhouses

Cleveland’s plan to fight blight? Demolish 6,000 homes
Lots being redeveloped as parks, greenhouses

The city of Cleveland is undertaking an interesting plan to fight urban blight, crime and falling home prices.

Instead of attempting to rebuild foreclosed and abandoned homes in blighted neighborhoods, the city is demolishing them and turning the empty lots into parks, greenhouses, and in one case, a vineyard.

All in all, the city plans to demolish 6,000 foreclosed and abandoned homes, according to a report from CNN Money.

From the CNN Money report:

"For the larger body -- the neighborhood -- to survive, you have to remove those cancer cells," said Frank Ford, a policy adviser for the nonprofit Thriving Communities Institute of Cleveland.

During the housing bust, Ford worked at a community redevelopment group that renovated 50 foreclosed homes in Cleveland for $180,000 each. They sold the rehabbed homes for about $90,000 apiece; taking a $90,000 hit on each.

If they had spent that money to demolish nine or 10 foreclosed homes instead and turned the land into green space, it would have had an immediate beneficial impact, said Ford.


That’s just what the city is now doing. And it’s finding the program successful as well.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025824615#post4


So dying city Cleveland is going literally to seed. That's fine; all Dem havens die at some point, it's just that not all of them get saved by a Giuliani.

But MineralMan, the poor, stupid old bastard:

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During the housing bust, Ford worked at a community redevelopment group that renovated 50 foreclosed homes in Cleveland for $180,000 each. They sold the rehabbed homes for about $90,000 apiece; taking a $90,000 hit on each.


$180,000 to rehab a home? Really? Tear it down and build a new one. That would be cheaper. If a home needs $180,000 in rehab work, it's not worth rehabbing. This smacks of people making very bad decisions, indeed.


Oh, MineralMan, you poor, forgetful moron. Cleveland, like Chicago, is infested with an unholy combination of fleas, maggots, lice, rats, and roaches Dem machine apparatchiks,
"community organizers" a la Barack 0loser, union monkeys, mob thugs, and crooked preachers. Not one shovel gets turned in a place like that without all of them getting duked. THAT'S
why it costs $180K to do a $20K job. That, not coincidentally, is why Detroit and Cleveland are dead.

And that's how you and your merry band of DUmmy dipshits think the whole world should be run. Wow.
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Re: MineralMan needs a refresher course in municipal liberal machine greed
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2014, 01:31:31 PM »
I thought liberals were all about nature and 'green spaces' in cities.  Our mayor sure seems to like them and has spent millions of dollars on his pet projects.
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Re: MineralMan needs a refresher course in municipal liberal machine greed
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2014, 01:51:07 PM »
The plan would work better if they made sure the houses were packed full of Democrat base voters when they get bulldozed.
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Re: MineralMan needs a refresher course in municipal liberal machine greed
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2014, 02:57:01 PM »
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Instead of attempting to rebuild foreclosed and abandoned homes in blighted neighborhoods, the city is demolishing them and turning the empty lots into parks, greenhouses, and in one case, a vineyard.

Someone needs to get this to Big Mo.

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Re: MineralMan needs a refresher course in municipal liberal machine greed
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2014, 03:33:45 PM »
Someone needs to get this to Big Mo.

Maybe she could franchise her idea in all the currently dying (or dead) cities.
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Re: MineralMan needs a refresher course in municipal liberal machine greed
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2014, 06:51:35 PM »

Oh, MineralMan, you poor, forgetful moron. Cleveland, like Chicago, is infested with an unholy combination of fleas, maggots, lice, rats, and roaches Dem machine apparatchiks,
"community organizers" a la Barack 0loser, union monkeys, mob thugs, and crooked preachers. Not one shovel gets turned in a place like that without all of them getting duked. THAT'S
why it costs $180K to do a $20K job. That, not coincidentally, is why Detroit and Cleveland are dead.

And that's how you and your merry band of DUmmy dipshits think the whole world should be run. Wow.

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Re: MineralMan needs a refresher course in municipal liberal machine greed
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 10:54:33 AM »
Someone needs to get this to Big Mo.

 :lol:

That's what I was thinking too. 
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Re: MineralMan needs a refresher course in municipal liberal machine greed
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2014, 11:58:32 AM »
Urban farms sound like a smart idea until you realize you cannot just remove a dwelling and plant a garden. Most (maybe all) things growing there will leech up any toxic contaminants in the soil such as lead. Which could explain what is happening to Mo.
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Re: MineralMan needs a refresher course in municipal liberal machine greed
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2014, 12:33:23 PM »
Urban farms sound like a smart idea until you realize you cannot just remove a dwelling and plant a garden. Most (maybe all) things growing there will leech up any toxic contaminants in the soil such as lead. Which could explain what is happening to Mo.

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Re: MineralMan needs a refresher course in municipal liberal machine greed
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2014, 12:35:43 PM »
Shit, I lived in Cleveland in the mid-80s and it was "dying". What's taking so long?
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Re: MineralMan needs a refresher course in municipal liberal machine greed
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2014, 12:55:03 PM »
Shit, I lived in Cleveland in the mid-80s and it was "dying". What's taking so long?

It's media bullshit.

Most urban centers have become blue Great Society cesspools, democrat reservations, while the repuke suburbs for miles and miles around enjoy great prosperity and growth.

I know it's that way around Cleveland, Detroit, and Chicago, and suspect it's that way around every city ruined by swarms of dependent democrats.

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Re: MineralMan needs a refresher course in municipal liberal machine greed
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2014, 01:47:18 PM »
:lol:

That's what I was thinking too.
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