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Proposed ban on illegal immigrants stirs uproar in Fremont

A proposed law aimed at banishing illegal immigrants from Fremont, Neb., would require every renter — whether they were born in the United States or immigrated here — to obtain an occupancy license through the city.

The proposal has sparked an outcry among advocates for Latinos. Nebraska Appleseed attorney Norm Pflanz said he is confident many Fremont citizens will join in opposition once they understand the full impact of the ordinance — on their lives as well as those of immigrants.

Fremont's is the first city council in the state to propose an ordinance that would ban harboring and renting to illegal immigrants. Lawmakers in other U.S. localities have introduced similar initiatives, often later struck down by the courts, according to national immigration groups.

Bob Warner, the longtime councilman who sponsored Fremont's proposal, said he did so because residents were "sick and tired" of what he said was the federal government's lax enforcement of immigration laws.

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The Nebraska Mexican-American Commission issued a statement on Thursday saying it was disappointed with "racial and anti-immigrant remarks" made at the Fremont council meeting. Tuesday was the first opportunity for the public to speak about the ordinance.

Angel Freytez, commission spokesman, said some opponents of the ban left the meeting early because they felt there was inadequate security. One opponent of the ordinance later broke into tears because of the "hateful" statements, said Freytez, who called the behavior at the meeting "shameful."

"Instead of raising the level of dialogue over the immigration issue," Freytez said, "they are degrading it."

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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2008, 05:32:29 PM »
If this goes through who's going to work at the Hormels meatpacking plant?
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2008, 05:36:19 PM »
If this goes through who's going to work at the Hormels meatpacking plant?
How 'bout all those folks on welfare?  Nah, they don't want jobs.   :fuelfire:
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2008, 05:50:56 PM »
If this goes through who's going to work at the Hormels meatpacking plant?

They already have that worked out.  Ron will replace Juan and Hortense will take over for Jorge.

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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2008, 06:28:08 PM »
If this goes through who's going to work at the Hormels meatpacking plant?
They could raise the hourly wage a few bucks and see who applies.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 06:32:21 PM »
You know, I've thought about this for a while, and this will probably please WE, but if these illegals are hurting our economy so much, I.e. takings jobs, why are we at 5.5% unemployment?
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2008, 06:37:04 PM »
You know, I've thought about this for a while, and this will probably please WE, but if these illegals are hurting our economy so much, I.e. takings jobs, why are we at 5.5% unemployment?
instead of 3.5%?
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 07:49:18 PM »
You know, I've thought about this for a while, and this will probably please WE, but if these illegals are hurting our economy so much, I.e. takings jobs, why are we at 5.5% unemployment?
instead of 3.5%?

I think 3.5% is full employment, Mrs. Smith. They factor in transitional people switching jobs, etc.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2008, 09:37:52 PM »
You know, I've thought about this for a while, and this will probably please WE, but if these illegals are hurting our economy so much, I.e. takings jobs, why are we at 5.5% unemployment?
instead of 3.5%?

I think 3.5% is full employment, Mrs. Smith. They factor in transitional people switching jobs, etc.



5% is full employment.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 11:00:00 PM »
You know, I've thought about this for a while, and this will probably please WE, but if these illegals are hurting our economy so much, I.e. takings jobs, why are we at 5.5% unemployment?
instead of 3.5%?

I think 3.5% is full employment, Mrs. Smith. They factor in transitional people switching jobs, etc.



5% is full employment.

So, if we're at 5.5%, and we have 20 million illegals, what happens if we, all the sudden, deport'em all?  :uhsure:
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2008, 11:07:17 PM »
You know, I've thought about this for a while, and this will probably please WE, but if these illegals are hurting our economy so much, I.e. takings jobs, why are we at 5.5% unemployment?

Kev, the unemployment roles are skewed. There are plenty of folks, like me, that have disappeared off of the unemployment roles. After six months, maybe a year, they "go away" and don't count any more. If the Government actually counted who are TRULY unemployed, I think the figures would astound the Nation. Bear in mind, I was pretty much unemployed for seven years.
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2008, 11:10:54 PM »
Kev, the unemployment roles are skewed. There are plenty of folks, like me, that have disappeared off of the unemployment roles. After six months, maybe a year, they "go away" and don't count any more. If the Government actually counted who are TRULY unemployed, I think the figures would astound the Nation. Bear in mind, I was pretty much unemployed for seven years.

7 years, but wasn't that pretty much by decision? As for illegals, which job do you think they have, that you could fill? Working for a landscaping company? Chicken farm? It ain't like these guys are coming here with PhD's. ....and there's no job that you're qualified for that they could fill.
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2008, 11:32:42 PM »
Kev, the unemployment roles are skewed. There are plenty of folks, like me, that have disappeared off of the unemployment roles. After six months, maybe a year, they "go away" and don't count any more. If the Government actually counted who are TRULY unemployed, I think the figures would astound the Nation. Bear in mind, I was pretty much unemployed for seven years.

7 years, but wasn't that pretty much by decision? As for illegals, which job do you think they have, that you could fill? Working for a landscaping company? Chicken farm? It ain't like these guys are coming here with PhD's. ....and there's no job that you're qualified for that they could fill.

True, but there are many more folks out there that COULD do those jobs. Take the meat packing company in Worthington, MN that got raided a couple of years ago. The INS captured some 40 illegals and sent them home. The very next day, there were over 100 applicants waiting in line for those jobs they were usurping. All of the applicants were legal US citizens and/ or LEGAL immigrants.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2008, 11:36:47 PM »

So, if we're at 5.5%, and we have 20 million illegals, what happens if we, all the sudden, deport'em all?  :uhsure:

You might have to mow your own grass?

Seriously, who cares what might happen....if they are here illegally, then they need to be arrested and sent home.

It would be of great benefit to taxpayers.

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2008, 11:39:46 PM »
Kev, the unemployment roles are skewed. There are plenty of folks, like me, that have disappeared off of the unemployment roles. After six months, maybe a year, they "go away" and don't count any more. If the Government actually counted who are TRULY unemployed, I think the figures would astound the Nation. Bear in mind, I was pretty much unemployed for seven years.

7 years, but wasn't that pretty much by decision? As for illegals, which job do you think they have, that you could fill? Working for a landscaping company? Chicken farm? It ain't like these guys are coming here with PhD's. ....and there's no job that you're qualified for that they could fill.

Who gives a **** if they are working or where they work.....a mexican with nine kids that only makes $8 an hour is still living off the system...they are sucking up things like medicaid and food stamps....

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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2008, 11:46:14 PM »
Who gives a **** if they are working or where they work.....a mexican with nine kids that only makes $8 an hour is still living off the system...they are sucking up things like medicaid and food stamps....

..and I TOTALLY disagree with those bastards getting ANY government aid. I don't remember saying I did.

As for what should happen, damn right they need to all be sent home. However, we need to put in place a system that allows more Hispanics to come to the country legally. Right now they're on a quota, just as everyone else is. These people pose no threat, other than the MS-13 thugs who are here illegally and almost always NOT Mexican, as it was founded in CENTRAL America. I've ALWAYS advocated that.
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2008, 11:52:51 PM »

As for what should happen, damn right they need to all be sent home. However, we need to put in place a system that allows more Hispanics to come to the country legally.
Why just Hispanics? I say we should allow more Asians and Indians to immigrate. We've seen what illegal Hispanics have done.
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2008, 11:55:34 PM »



However, we need to put in place a system that allows more Hispanics to come to the country legally.

There is already. They just don't like to follow the rules, this includes the ****ers that hire them.

Alot of very talented skilled trades workers in Vegas that are sitting at home laid off, due to the guest workers that are willing to do things like climb up on a moving crane and "oil it".....just one project alone has already had 12 deaths....fall prevention programs and being tied off started to become things of the past....now OSHA is camped out at the job site...which is costing the taxpayers more money....on top of all the uninsured illegals that have been getting hurt...




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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2008, 11:57:15 PM »

As for what should happen, damn right they need to all be sent home. However, we need to put in place a system that allows more Hispanics to come to the country legally.
Why just Hispanics? I say we should allow more Asians and Indians to immigrate. We've seen what illegal Hispanics have done.

Most Asians and Indians seem to follow the laws already in place.

Mexicans have no respect for our laws.....**** em....send the ****ers home....and their kids....

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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2008, 12:03:18 AM »
Why just Hispanics? I say we should allow more Asians and Indians to immigrate. We've seen what illegal Hispanics have done.

Not a problem. As for Asians and Indians, you do realize they have their problems as well, right? Try being a contractor and getting paid by an Indian. Asians also have problems with gangs.
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2008, 12:04:59 AM »

Most Asians and Indians seem to follow the laws already in place.

Mexicans have no respect for our laws.....**** em....send the ****ers home....and their kids....

Mexicans? As in all Mexicans? I know a ton that know the law. Many served alongside me in the US Military protecting this country.
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2008, 02:01:34 AM »

Most Asians and Indians seem to follow the laws already in place.

Mexicans have no respect for our laws.....**** em....send the ****ers home....and their kids....

Mexicans? As in all Mexicans? I know a ton that know the law. Many served alongside me in the US Military protecting this country.

Not all mexicans, the illegal mexicans...which is alot of them.  :-)

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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2008, 06:40:27 AM »
This seems to be the growing trend.

Anyone see the story from Virginia where a legal immigrant put a huge billboard on his yard attacking the county and the U.S. for its heavy handed policy of deporting illegals?

I hope this is a ground swell movement and keeps getting bigger and bigger.

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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2008, 10:50:14 AM »

As for what should happen, damn right they need to all be sent home. However, we need to put in place a system that allows more Hispanics to come to the country legally.
Why just Hispanics? I say we should allow more Asians and Indians to immigrate. We've seen what illegal Hispanics have done.

Most Asians and Indians seem to follow the laws already in place.

Mexicans have no respect for our laws.....**** em....send the ****ers home....and their kids....

Alot of them don't respect their laws ,not even alot of theri own cops and Government employees so it would be reasonable to assume that those that came here wouldn't respect ours either.
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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2008, 11:07:37 AM »
This seems to be the growing trend.

Anyone see the story from Virginia where a legal immigrant put a huge billboard on his yard attacking the county and the U.S. for its heavy handed policy of deporting illegals?

I hope this is a ground swell movement and keeps getting bigger and bigger.

It's time for AMERICANS to take back their country.



Yeah, I seen the idiot with the billboard.

They should send him back just for being stupid.

If city by city, starts to crack down, we will all be in alot better shape.