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Offline thundley4

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Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« on: November 13, 2014, 04:11:46 PM »
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Star Member cali (96,682 posts)   Thu Nov 13, 2014, 02:55 PM

Pointless lie: Pelosi on Gruber: 'I don't know who he is'

The ObamaCare consultant churning headlines this week for questioning voters' intelligence is a stranger to Rep. Nancy Pelosi, the House Democratic leader from California said Thursday.

“I don't know who he is,” Pelosi said of Jonathan Gruber. “He didn't help write our bill.”

Gruber, a health economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who advised the administration during the months-long ObamaCare debate, stirred a hornet's nest this week with comments he made last year suggesting only a “lack of transparency” and “the stupidity of the American voter” allowed the bill to pass.

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Still, if Pelosi is unfamiliar with Gruber now, that wasn't the case amid the fierce debate as ObamaCare was being crafted.

As unearthed Thursday by The Washington Post, Pelosi's website contains entries from December 2009 featuring an extensive analysis of the law's impact on insurance premiums. The author? Jonathan Gruber.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/224031-pelosi-on-gruber-i-dont-know-who-he-is
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025812281

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MineralMan (68,653 posts)
1. In all honesty, she may have never even been on her website.

It's entirely possible that she didn't know who he is. Very few congressional members actually participate in creating their websites. They have people who work for them who do that.

^Plausible deniability?

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9. Apparently, she knew who Gruber is at that point.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4514604/nancy-pelosi-mentions-jonathan-gruber-analysis

Nope, no plausible deniability for Nancy. She mentioned the guy by name.

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Tatiana (11,443 posts)
2. Pathetic. I don't know what to believe.

a) She's flat out lying.

b) She's so disengaged with the legislative process that her staffers do all the work and she doesn't have a clue regarding what's going on.

Either way, I don't think she should be in any leadership position, at this point.

Democrats lie, they lie all the time.

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Orsino (28,500 posts)
3. Not much of a lie, if they never met and Gruber didn't actually write any of the bill. n/t

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Mass (26,182 posts)
6. Ridiculous. Gruber was an important actor during the writing of ACA.

Even if he was not an advisor for the House (not sure whether this is the case or not), he was everywhere in the media and in hearings. It is ridiculous that she would answer like that.

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Star Member cali (96,682 posts)
8. Embarrassing. As are the justifications in this thread

Hell, I know who he is and that he was a key adviser on the ACA.


Sounds like cali is calling out a fellow DUmmie who is trying their best to support Nancy pelosi.

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7. She's ****ing lying and she needs to be gone.

She has become a huge liability.

From HuffPo in 2010. Read the whole damn thing:

"On November 30th, Krugman wrote about the CBO report, relying on Gruber's analysis. He, too, concluded it was "good news for reform advocates." That same day, Harry Reid took to the floor of the Senate that same day, saying "just a few days ago an MIT economist -- one of the nation's foremost economists -- a man by the name of Jonathan Gruber, analyzed our bill and concluded it will help Americans pay less and get more."

Reid read from the piece on the floor of the Senate, saying that it provided substantiation from Gruber "who is one of the most respected economists in the world" that the Senate bill would reduce the deficit. Nancy Pelosi touted "the Gruber analysis" on the Speaker's website."

Krugman must be really stupid too, he bought into the lies.  He's still stupid, too.
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2014, 04:19:04 PM »
I think Gruber misspoke. It's not the voters who are stupid, it's the people they vote for that are stupid.
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2014, 04:27:43 PM »
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1. In all honesty, she may have never even been on her website.

It's entirely possible that she didn't know who he is. Very few congressional members actually participate in creating their websites. They have people who work for them who do that.

 :lmao:

A lousy, FReeper troll and a ****ing idiot!

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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2014, 04:28:20 PM »
Lying is second nature to a liberal.  Given the choice between the truth and a lie they will choose the lie nine out of ten times.  It is just a character flaw. 

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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2014, 04:37:59 PM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on November 13, 2014, 04:28:20 PM
Lying is second nature to a liberal.  Given the choice between the truth and a lie they will choose the lie nine out of ten times.  It is just a character flaw.


     On the other hand, when you're a liberal scumbag like Pelosi, why not lie? Tell me what the consequences are to her lying and getting caught do it? None, zero zip, nada.
Sure, NewsBusters and maybe even Fox will call her on it, but the mere fact that she's called on it causes her supporters to spit the ball gags out and say, "well if FOX thinks she's
lying, she must be speaking Truth to Power!" To a liberal, there are no lies because there are no truths. It's all just verbiage. Truth is not an objective phenomenon to a liberal, it's
a feeling. 0bama accepting the nomination in 2008 is "truth" to them. A "kitteh" on the internet is "truth" to them. So why NOT lie? I sure would.
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2014, 04:38:40 PM »
Quote from: zeitgeist on November 13, 2014, 04:28:20 PM
Lying is second nature to a liberal.  Given the choice between the truth and a lie they will choose the lie nine out of ten times.  It is just a character flaw.

That truth has never been more evident than during Obama's Misadministration of the government.  Countless times they could have told the truth with little or no damage done, but they chose to lie and then cover up the lies.  Then they lied about lying to cover up the lies.
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2014, 05:24:41 PM »
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Still, if Pelosi is unfamiliar with Gruber now, that wasn't the case amid the fierce debate as ObamaCare was being crafted.

early stages of Alzheimer's disease?
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2014, 06:51:12 PM »
Oh come on Nancy, sure you do, he was even on McHale's Navy. 



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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2014, 08:53:24 PM »
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  Gruber "who is one of the most respected economists in the world" 

OK now I understand, Gruber is the "economist" Obama has been referring to when he says; "most respected economists tell me my stimulus plan will pull us out of the recession and lower unemployment".  :thatsright:
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2014, 09:06:06 PM »
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32. Please don't link to Newsbusters or other right wing sites.

this story is only posted on right wing sites and is likely out of context.

Whatever you do, don't pop the bubble.  The right wing sites are telling the truth and Pelosi and other democrats are ones telling the lies.  Wake up, sheeple.  Ya been had! Ya been took! Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2014, 09:50:15 PM »
Why did she lie?  She's a Democrat.  'Nuff said, really.

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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2014, 11:06:38 PM »
If you want to limit your search, look for all the times Nancy "Bela" Pelosi told the truth.
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2014, 11:27:33 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on November 13, 2014, 11:06:38 PM
If you want to limit your search, look for all the times Nancy "Bela" Pelosi told the truth.

Damn!  You do believe in sending DUmbshits on snipe hunts, doncha?!  You coulda made it easier, and just had them go get a hundred yards of flight line out of the supply warehouse.  :wink: :naughty: :popcorn:
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2014, 11:31:50 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on November 13, 2014, 11:27:33 PM
Damn!  You do believe in sending DUmbshits on snipe hunts, doncha?!  You coulda made it easier, and just had them go get a hundred yards of flight line out of the supply warehouse.  :wink: :naughty: :popcorn:
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2014, 11:34:34 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on November 13, 2014, 11:31:50 PM
...Any enterprising airman knows how to find flightline !

That alone eliminates every last one of the DUmp Monkies... :cheers1: :hi5:
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2014, 11:40:57 PM »
Quote from: obumazombie on November 13, 2014, 11:31:50 PM
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Don't forget the rotor wash!

And I was the master of pogie bait. I always had beef jerky, or peanut butter crackers, or some Snack Pack puddings, in my flight bag.

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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2014, 11:51:03 PM »
See if you can get someone on the horn at Range Control to turn on the range fan while you're at it.
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2014, 12:25:34 AM »
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Pointless lie: Pelosi on Gruber: 'I don't know who he is'

Got him confused with Amy Kornbunkler.
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Re: Why did Pelosi lie about knowing Gruber?
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