DUmmies Discuss Healthcare Insurance Premium Subsidies

[GOBUCKS]

DUmmies are apoplectic over the Supreme Court hearing a challenge to premium subsidies in states that do not set up their own exchanges. They aren't talking about healthcare, they're talking about forcing us to pay their premiums:

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:31 PM
randys1 (3,926 posts)

Say goodbye to Obamacare...

http://fortune.com/2014/11/10/supreme-courts-new-obamacare-case/


The Affordable Care Act hangs by a thread again. Pizza, not broccoli, is the metaphor this time.

Make no mistake: With the Supreme Court’s decision Friday to hear the latest legal challenge to the Affordable Care Act, that law—the most significant social legislation in a generation and the signature achievement of the Obama presidency—hangs by a thread.

If the Court rules for the challengers—nullifying the guts of the statute’s benefits in 34 states and sending participating insurers into an actuarial death-spiral—it will have rendered its most divisive ruling since Bush v. Gore.

Whatever it does, the outcome will define Chief Justice John Roberts Jr.’s legacy more than any case since he ascended the bench nine years ago.


The question is does Justice Roberts want to kill Americans, thousands of them, and be known for killing them.

We know Scalia and Thomas and company will gladly kill tens of thousands of Americans, but Roberts stopped the murderous republicans once, will he again?

Sorry I said say goodbye to Obamacare in my OP but I am so tired of this, so full of rage and hate for these racist pieces of SHIT

And make no mistake, this is ONLY about racism and funny sounding names and they will gladly kill YOU or your neighbor if it means they can destroy the legacy of this Black President.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025798883
Wait, you mean it will kill tens of thousands of DUmmies AND destroy the legacy of the jug-eared muslim?

I fail to see a down side.
 

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:38 PM
randys1 (3,926 posts)
2. If this goes thru, I hope the people they will murder will react in some manner

before they are murdered.

Most of us will just go without healthcare and die or go broke, but somebody has to do something big

real big

as in get ALL Americans to DEMAND universal healthcare or ELSE

How about something big like paying your own premium?

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:39 PM
Skink (9,107 posts)
3. There must be executive action

That Obama could use against the Gov's that are in contempt of the law.

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:44 PM
Politicalboi (12,267 posts)
4. If this does happen

Maybe the blue states should be the ones to secede. I'm tired of the whole country being brought down by these red state nit wits.

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:11 PM
appalachiablue (178 posts)
48. Heard this 2 yrs. ago and thought it super. This can't go on, better to save some

section for justice, liberals, a 'Blue Nation'. Probably a bit late as another DUer here noted the recent RED election results in BLUE states, IL, MI, WISC, etc. But it's Never too late as they say. I wish others showed serious interest in a Separation. Our system takes forever to change as some have pointed out in these posts. I say we get started on a new unity, new place. Stranger things have happened.

Maybe 20 yrs. ago would have worked. Who knows, but I see no improvement, only growing Red Power in all venues.

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 08:08 PM
Star Member geek tragedy (41,754 posts)
23. And thus universal health care is permanently impossible.

Single payer will never, ever happen.

Instead, there will a be blue state health care system and a third world hellhole red state system.

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 08:26 PM
BlindTiresias (1,085 posts)
34. Must be great to be right wing in this country

Even better to be wealthy and right wing. It would essentially be a series of major victories intersperses by some bone throwing and then taking the bone back after a time. Must be really satisfying.

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 09:11 PM
Star Member kairos12 (1,931 posts)
38. I think Roberts pulls the trigger this time. He is drifting with a bloody red state flag. Be damned

the legacy of the court. After that decision, the real civil war begins.

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 10:08 PM
backscatter712 (22,549 posts)
44. When right-wingers see the word "Obamacare" they read "N****rcare".

You want to know how to make all of the Affordable Care Act palatable to right-wingers?

1. Rename it "ReaganCare".

2. Add a Jim Crow clause to the benefits.

The right-wing was happy with our ****ed up health care system because they figured all those brown people were the ones getting ****ed, while white people were more likely to get help. Obamacare gets in the way of that, so now the racist right is going apeshit over the thought that minorities might be getting the same health care benefits they're getting.

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 11:57 PM
Star Member geek tragedy (41,754 posts)
63. The ACA is the last piece of national healthcare legislation.

The only votes going forward will be about repealing it.

Want single payer? Move to a blue state or Canada.

[delilahmused]

1. The advantage we have with Roberts now is that the 0bama administration is truly a lame duck. He may still have a pen and a phone but he definitely wields a ton less power than he did the last time 0bamacare was before the court. And, the last time a challenge was argued before them 0bama and his goon squad lost.

2. The problem with "blue" states is that the blue part is concentrated in very small, specific area. You want to secede, go right ahead but leave MY piece of Oregon alone, along with the other 90% of the state. You can have Portland, Salem. Corvallis and Eugene. The rest of us with a brain will keep the rest. One caviat: when you **** things up beyond all repair, you cannot ever come back. Stew in your socialist juices.

Cindie

[tanstaafl]

From GoBucks' OP:

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:31 PM
randys1 (3,926 posts)

Say goodbye to Obamacare...

http://fortune.com/2014/11/10/supreme-courts-new-obamacare-case/


The Affordable Care Act hangs by a thread again. Pizza, not broccoli, is the metaphor this time.

Make no mistake: With the Supreme Court’s decision Friday to hear the latest legal challenge to the Affordable Care Act, that law—the most significant social legislation in a generation and the signature achievement of the Obama presidency—hangs by a thread.

If the Court rules for the challengers—nullifying the guts of the statute’s benefits in 34 states and sending participating insurers into an actuarial death-spiral—it will have rendered its most divisive ruling since Bush v. Gore.

First off, DUmbshit, the law is based on FACTS.

Secondly, DUmbass, the law is not based on rainbows, unicorns or other bullshit your teeny, tiny little heart desires.

Perhaps the next time, should there ever again be a demoncRATic controlled House and Senate with a sitting demoncRATic pResident, and they and you think it necessary to ram legislation down the throats of the American Public you will properly vet the damned thing so as not to anger 60% of the voting citizenry.

[BlueStateSaint]

1. The advantage we have with Roberts now is that the 0bama administration is truly a lame duck. He may still have a pen and a phone but he definitely wields a ton less power than he did the last time 0bamacare was before the court. And, the last time a challenge was argued before them 0bama and his goon squad lost.

2. The problem with "blue" states is that the blue part is concentrated in very small, specific area. You want to secede, go right ahead but leave MY piece of Oregon alone, along with the other 90% of the state. You can have Portland, Salem. Corvallis and Eugene. The rest of us with a brain will keep the rest. One caviat: when you **** things up beyond all repair, you cannot ever come back. Stew in your socialist juices.

Cindie

Cindie, I think I speak for a lot of upstate NYers when I say that there's at least two states in NY.  Cut the damn thing off just below West Point.  The NYCers can have what's south of there.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Have you noticed that not 1 of them can argue about what is actually written in the law.

[USA4ME]

randys1

If this goes thru, I hope the people they will murder will react in some manner before they are murdered.

I always liked in the old Westerns where the cowboy or indian would get shot and they would stagger around in dramatic fashion and hold their wound for a while before finally falling over. If this is the type of reaction of which the primitive is speaking, that would be kinda cool.

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[DumbAss Tanker]

It will be very interesting to see if they follow the actual letter of the law, or come up with some creative totally-BS way to completely rewrite it from the bench. 

The traditional Supreme Court approach to something like this is to say the law says what it says, and any fix is in the hands of the legislative branch.  Unfortunately, since Rehnquist retired, the Court has been rather careless about staying in its own bounds, and all too often tended to try to fix things itself instead of kicking them back where they belong for rework.

[GOBUCKS]

In any discussion of the Supreme Court, DUmpmonkeys always think it's the same as a supreme legislative body.

If the jug-eared muslim gets another appointment to the Court, we'll have five justices who think the same way.

[BannedFromDU]

     I am getting tired of the liberal bullshit about 0losercare. Seriously tired: they don't even mention the Jonathan Gruber video revelation IN PASSING as prima facie evidence that we were
lied to. The reason, of course, is simple: DUmmies are poor losers, so they have nothing to lose and everything to gain from Americans being misled and bullied into legislation that is more or less an enormous tax on anyone with cash flow. GRUBER SAYS IT ON CAMERA: IT IS A WAY TO GET PEOPLE WITH MONEY TO GIVE IT TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T. Seeing as how (a) DUmmies have no intention of paying premiums or deductibles under 0losercare, and (b) they are just fine with stealing money from anyone who has it, it's no wonder they could give a shit about the Constitution and its application to the law. DUmbasses would rewrite the Constitution to take money from anyone who has more than them, so OF COURSE they see any challenge to the "law" as a threat.

     To which I say, shame on US, DUmmies: this country has made it easier for you to grandstand about how much of MY money YOU deserve to take than it has provided incentive for you to put down the bong and look for work.

[DefiantSix]

Have you noticed that not 1 of them can argue about what is actually written in the law.

With all of the exceptions and exemptions and other ways The Holy WON of Shitcago has folded, spindled and mutilated the original cluster**** of a law, I don't think even Dear Leader can argue what's in the law anymore (if he ever could).

[thundley4]

Mon Nov 10, 2014, 07:39 PM
Skink (9,107 posts)
3. There must be executive action

That Obama could use against the Gov's that are in contempt of the law.

Executive Action that Obama has already taken on ObamaCare is partly what has pissed people off.

Obama has already made 42 unilateral changes to ObamaCare. http://www.galen.org/newsletters/changes-to-obamacare-so-far/

ObamaCare passed congress with no Republican support and Obama had control of both houses.