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primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« on: November 05, 2014, 07:54:30 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025771322

It seems like even the littlest things are setting the primitives off today.  I wonder why that is?   :confused:

This is really a two-part thread.  Enjoy:

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:24 PM
HockeyMom (12,594 posts)

My Married, DEMOCRAT daughter is fighting with her Republican Married Friends

Stupid idiots. They cannot understand why SHE did not vote for Republicans because she has a HUSBAND who supports her and her son. She tried to inform them why, and her husband is a Democrat also, but to no avail. So as her mother, I got on that FB page, and gave them MY two cents. You young women are totally CLUELESS what life was like 50 years ago, let alone even 20 years ago. Just wait. You will see, mark my words, as a woman old enough to be your mother ALSO. I LIVED discrimination. You never have. If you don't want to believe my daughter, believe me, or you will find out yourself at your own peril; wedding ring or not.

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:26 PM
Star Member cali (96,564 posts)
1. just a note: It's not ever ever ever "DEMOCRAT". It's "DEMOCRATIC"

Please do not use repuke language.

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:30 PM
Star Member malaise (124,616 posts)
4. +1,000

I hate it

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:31 PM
RebelOne (30,255 posts)
6. I always say I am a Democrat,

and say I am part of the Democratic party. What is wrong with her use of Democrat?

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:48 PM
Star Member Blanks (2,433 posts)
14. Me too. I always vote for the democrats, and the democratic candidates.

I think folks are getting carried away to the point of being incorrect.

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:21 PM
Star Member SheilaT (16,196 posts)
20. Because in the headline, the D word is an adjective, modifying the noun "daughterr"

and Democratic is the adjectival version of the noun Democrat.

Now if she'd said, My daughter is a Democrat, that would be okay. But not Democrat daughter.

(stepping down from my grammar step stool)

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:28 PM
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24. So if there had been a comma after "Democrat" then it would have been proper?

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:23 PM
Star Member mattclearing (9,993 posts)
21. Democrat is not an adjective. nt

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:33 PM
yourout (6,507 posts)
7. That is actually the correct context. I would describe myself as a Democrat.

Democratic is an adjuctive describing someone or something.
Democrat is a noun. IE...I am a Democrat.

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back to the OP's topic:

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:28 PM
Star Member upaloopa (4,965 posts)
2. More and more it is becoming clear to me that

the battles that we fought and won in the 60's and 70's hold no relevance for younger people.
Those born during the conservative revolution don't have a clue.

No, the problem for your party is they DO have a clue. 

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:29 PM
Star Member lpbk2713 (25,909 posts)
3. I have friends and family of the rightie persuasion.

You have my sympathies. I avoid any in depth political discussions
with them because I know you can't fix that kind of stupid.

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:34 PM
Star Member mnhtnbb (14,485 posts)
9. My husband is right now visiting family in Georgia. Yes, right wing.

When he left he asked me what he should tell them why I wasn't coming.
I told him to say "I've developed an allergy to Republicans. They make me
unable to say anything but swear words."

I just couldn't do it, especially with the election yesterday. I can just
imagine how repressed and depressed he's going to be when he gets home
tomorrow.

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:01 PM
Star Member Hortensis (138 posts)
17. That's the simple truth. I never changed a conservative mind in 40 years pointing out

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facts and problems with the lies they loved to embrace.

Your daughter might take the advice I finally, belatedly did and learn to explain her VALUES even people determined to misunderstand will have trouble dismissing, preferably by using terms that reverberate strongly with them. As a social scientist points out, "All politics is moral, and morality trumps policy." So state values and their moral basis briefly -- using their language -- and absolutely refuse to muddy the message by criticizing or responding to arguments. Repeat as often as possible.

This is a positive approach that Elizabeth Warren employs a LOT. As in "No one who works full time should live in poverty."

Others could be your daughter's version of,
Empowering women strengthens society.
It is our duty to protect our nation and our children from the threat of global warming.
It is our duty to correct the extreme inequality of income that is destabilizing our nation and threatening our children's future.
Taxes are how citizens pay their share of being Americans.

You could have spared us all the BS, and ended your post at the subject line.

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:39 PM
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27. I'm not sure how you appeal to a group of women that see themselves as submissive to their

husbands. I can relate to their circumstances but not their mentality. I have been married and a stay at home mom for 20 years. But I don't see myself as submissive in any way, so I have no idea where they are coming from and have no idea how we are supposed to appeal to them. Maybe they get so defensive because in their religion and culture it is the man's responsibility to make the money and they are discouraged from working. Therefore, their husband's paycheck is their only security and when your security is seemingly attacked you get defensive. But I don't understand how addressing equal pay hurts a man's paycheck unless that is a lie the conservatives have been telling their women which I have no doubt they do.

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:34 PM
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8. You're right. Unfortunately longer perspectives are often lost on the young

In general, chastising young people for not appreciating something that happened a long time ago is not effective. It's so difficult to comprehend without having lived through it.

Our main struggle is to make Democrats relevant to the younger generation. We've done it on a few issues. Unfortunately it seems we're turning more and more to the lesser evil appeal, which I think is far less effective on young people.

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:48 PM
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13. That is unfortunate. Friendships are too important to allow politics to ruin them.

If you have a half a dozen true friends in life, you are blessed. I would never let politics cost me one and none of my true friends would either.

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:30 PM
HockeyMom (12,594 posts)
25. I have not talked to my husband's niece in 3 years

because of her religious stance on gays. Her twin brother, older sister, and my daughter are gay. If she can bash her own flesh and blood because of her religion, as her NON flesh and blood in-law, I want nothing to do with her.


Finally, back to the first part of the thread: 

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Wed Nov 5, 2014, 07:31 PM
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26. DemocartIC daughter, DemocratIC daughter

DemocratIC daughter
DemocratIC daughter
DemocratIC daughter
DemocratIC daughter
DemocratIC daughter
DemocratIC daughter
DemocratIC daughter

and I see above that Rove and his word smiths now have us arguing about it, how ****ing pathetic

Rove, you genius! 
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2014, 08:04:12 PM »
All that is sure to help the democRAT daughter.    :whistling:
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2014, 08:06:01 PM »
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3. I have friends and family of the rightie persuasion.

You have my sympathies. I avoid any in depth political discussions
with them because I know you can't fix that kind of stupid.

I'm guessing the rest of your family is grateful, dummie. Nothing worse than having some raving lunatic talking liberal tripe and foaming at the mouth on Thanksgiving.
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2014, 08:12:34 PM »
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Her twin brother, older sister, and my daughter are gay.

Bummer.  :loser:
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2014, 08:16:01 PM »
Quote from: El Jefe on November 05, 2014, 08:12:34 PM
Bummer.  :loser:

It makes me wonder what happened in that family to create so many homosexuals.
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2014, 08:17:13 PM »
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1. just a note: It's not ever ever ever "DEMOCRAT". It's "DEMOCRATIC"

Please do not use repuke language.

No, it is Democrat. Why are you so riled up over that may I ask?

I have to get some butthurt cream.
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2014, 08:18:24 PM »
Quote from: El Jefe on November 05, 2014, 08:12:34 PM
Bummer.  :loser:

Actually, sir, it's a good thing.  They don't procreate.
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2014, 08:20:13 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on November 05, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
It makes me wonder what happened in that family to create so many homosexuals.

Lena Dunham used to come over for sleepovers?
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2014, 08:20:33 PM »
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Actually, sir, it's a good thing.  They don't procreate.

But, but, David Crosby!  :whistling:
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2014, 08:20:58 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on November 05, 2014, 08:17:13 PM
No, it is Democrat. Why are you so riled up over that may I ask?

I have to get some butthurt cream.

Buttreax's Butthurt Paste??
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2014, 08:22:02 PM »
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Lena Dunham used to come over for sleepovers?

Ack!  :o
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2014, 08:22:59 PM »
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Lena Dunham used to come over for sleepovers?

That would explain it.

Seemed to work on her sister.
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2014, 08:23:41 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on November 05, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
It makes me wonder what happened in that family to create so many homosexuals.

They lived really close to a fudge factory.
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20. absolute bullshit. the cave is unspeakably vile.

I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2014, 08:43:57 PM »
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 06:24 PM
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My Married, DEMOCRAT daughter is fighting with her Republican Married Friends

Stupid idiots. They cannot understand why SHE did not vote for Republicans because she has a HUSBAND who supports her and her son. She tried to inform them why, and her husband is a Democrat also, but to no avail. So as her mother, I got on that FB page, and gave them MY two cents. You young women are totally CLUELESS what life was like 50 years ago, let alone even 20 years ago. Just wait. You will see, mark my words, as a woman old enough to be your mother ALSO. I LIVED discrimination. You never have. If you don't want to believe my daughter, believe me, or you will find out yourself at your own peril; wedding ring or not.

 :bouncy:

Poll after poll has shown that married women tend both Conservative and Republican, so of course, it had to be worked into a bouncy.  Isn't this (D)Ummie fairly prolific with them?  I seem to remember quite a few over the last two years alone.
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2014, 08:48:50 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on November 05, 2014, 08:17:13 PM
No, it is Democrat. Why are you so riled up over that may I ask?

I have to get some butthurt cream.

It's their latest thing.  Democrat is a pejorative. 

..and they're right!

I use it intentionally, and as often as possible, to rile up the Delusionists.

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You have my sympathies. I avoid any in depth political discussions
with them because I know you can't fix that kind of stupid.

No. It's because you're sick and tired of getting your ass handed to you without butthurt creme.

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25. I have not talked to my husband's niece in 3 years

Just a WAG, but I'm guessing it's the other way around. 
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2014, 08:54:12 PM »
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My Married, DEMOCRAT daughter is fighting with her Republican Married Friends
 So as her mother, I got on that FB page, and gave them MY two cents.


You nosy bitch, why are you poking your nose in your grown married daugther's business.  Typical democRAT can't mind your business.
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2014, 09:03:19 PM »
Quote from: BattleHymn on November 05, 2014, 08:20:13 PM
Lena Dunham used to come over for sleepovers?

That, or the DUmmie Mom was a pervo...or such was my first thought.
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2014, 09:05:53 PM »
Teh funneh:   

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8. You're right. Unfortunately longer perspectives are often lost on the young

In general, chastising young people for not appreciating something that happened a long time ago is not effective. It's so difficult to comprehend without having lived through it.

Our main struggle is to make Democrats relevant to the younger generation. We've done it on a few issues. Unfortunately it seems we're turning more and more to the lesser evil appeal, which I think is far less effective on young people.

We've been hearing for eons how demographics are going to doom the OLD WHITE CONS!!111 elEBinty!!111

Whu happened?  .....old white hippies who have been irretrievably brain damaged since Ronaldus Maximus saved us from you stupid, petulant assholes.

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2. More and more it is becoming clear to me that the battles that we fought and won in the 60's    and 70's   ::) ::) ::) hold no relevance for younger people.  Those born during the conservative revolution don't have a clue.


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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2014, 09:16:10 PM »
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27. I'm not sure how you appeal to a group of women that see themselves as submissive to their husbands. I can relate to their circumstances but not their mentality. I have been married and a stay at home mom for 20 years. But I don't see myself as submissive in any way, so I have no
idea where they are coming from and have no idea how we are supposed to appeal to them.

You can't because, they don't feel submissive, in any way. You stupid, ignorant bint.  They know what stupid and ignorant looks like.


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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2014, 09:34:21 PM »
You have a better chance of an aardvark learning how to pilot a space shuttle than you do a DUmmie figuring out what went wrong for them in the electorate. 
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2014, 11:57:30 PM »
Why do Dummies always try to play the morality card?  Don't they realize how ridiculous they sound when they believe it's their right to murder full-term babies? 
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2014, 02:30:15 AM »
Nothing more pathetic than a shriveled old fool waxing nostalgic for a time 50 years in the past that has absolutely no relevance to today, except how much it screwed things up.

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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2014, 07:36:26 AM »
Quote from: delilahmused on November 06, 2014, 02:30:15 AM
Nothing more pathetic than a shriveled old fool waxing nostalgic for a time 50 years in the past that has absolutely no relevance to today, except how much it screwed things up.

Cindie

Y'know, Cindie, that's what struck me about that OP...why would it matter to the other women what had happened 50 years ago?  They aren't getting into a time machine to go vote THEN, they are voting about issues and agendas NOW.  Accordingly, the ladies that DUmmie finds so appalling are thinking much more clearly than the DUmmie womaniac is. 

Not that that's so unusual by itself, I mean it's not like your average placental mammal can't outthink one of them five times out of six...
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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2014, 12:12:47 PM »
The libs inconsolability is so savory.
Besides...it's Democra-tick...





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Re: primitives at each other's throats over the littlest things
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2014, 12:38:02 PM »
I grew up in a home with both parents and a stay at home mom until about 7th grade.  While dad may have been considered the head of the house by society at large, it didn't quite work that way in our household.  They did have distinct roles, but there really wasn't one who had the last word over the other.  I also saw the moms of my friends being pretty much the same way.

I think most of the feminist crap is just that.....pure bs.



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