primitives make up stories about cops

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025733972

Oh my.

As one might imagine, it's a long thread, full of all sorts of tales of woe with the police.

marym625 (2,273 posts)    Thu Oct 30, 2014, 12:30 AM

Who has had police violate their rights?

I used to get pulled over for being cute. It was annoying and a little scary being pulled over when you had no idea why. But nothing like I experienced when I was 17.
 
When I was 17 I was in a car with 5 guys. One was my boyfriend. He and 1 other in the car were in a band. We were waiting for the place they were playing to open.
 
Cops approached and ordered us all out of the car. They searched us and the vehicle. No one had anything but there was an unopened 12 pack in the car. I was the only one under age.
 
They took us all down to the police station and held us for hours. They finally let the guys in the band go. The owner of the place they were playing at had called and was upset the band couldn't play.
 
I was then taken into a holding cell that had cameras and was strip searched. The guys watched the cops watching this happen to me.
 
They eventually let us all go. I never did anything because I wasn't supposed to be with my boyfriend. I was more afraid of my parents at that time.
 
I wonder how many others here have been abused by cops.

Believe me, that experience was horrible and still haunts me.

FormerOstrich (2,261 posts)    Thu Oct 30, 2014, 12:51 AM

1. I was sixteen....

and working at the local fast-food/ice-cream shop. One of the small town Missouri cops would hit on me all the time. He seemed ancient to me at the time but I suppose he was probably 30ish.
 
He told me if I didn't sleep with him he would make my life hell. I didn't and he did!
 
Him and his buddies terrorized me. I was constantly pulled over and harassed. I feared at some point they were going to rape me or shoot me.
 
Small town cops strike fear in my heart!

ChoppinBroccoli (2,178 posts)    Thu Oct 30, 2014, 01:00 AM

5. I Think A Better Question Would Be........

...........who HASN'T had police violate their rights?

If you've had any kind of interaction with the police AT ALL in the last decade or more, chances are good that your rights were violated, whether or not you knew it. Police actually take training classes in how to violate your rights and then cover it up and lie about it so they don't get caught and still get the conviction. And since the Prosecutor's Office and 90% of the judges are in bed with them, they pretty much do it with impunity. It's become so commonplace that most people don't even know when their rights have been violated, and will actually stand up for the cops violating their rights. I've been saying for years that after constant indoctrination from a young age (the nice policeman is your friend), we've become a police state without even knowing it. And most Americans LOVE it.
 
As for my personal experience, I was actually the victim of police brutality years ago. I was at the bars on Ohio State's campus the night before a big football game. The bars closed at 2:00 AM, and all the people in all the bars were coming out and heading home. Naturally, the crowd was huge, and Columbus Police were out in force. They had roped off the streets so that the only way you could cross the street was at the crosswalks. While waiting in a crowd of people to cross the street (a crowd that was in no way unruly--we were all simply waiting to cross the street), a jackbooted Columbus cop maced the entire crowd. Needless to say, it was not a pleasant experience. Not to mention the fact that by doing this, he took what had been a very orderly crowd and caused them to bolt in all directions like a frightened herd of animals. Good work. And just think what might have happened had someone fallen down while running away from the mace. They would have been trampled to death. But then again, we're talking about a police force that was so corrupt that the FBI had to actually step in and investigate the constant allegations of ongoing police brutality.

bhikkhu (9,121 posts)    Thu Oct 30, 2014, 01:14 AM

9. I was pulled over and forced at gunpoint to lie facedown on the ground

in the rain, some years ago in Georgia. I just did what they told me, and as I was down there figured out that they probably ran my plates and found a "stolen car" flag on it from an incident that happened a year before, on the opposite coast, that never got the paperwork cleared up when the car was recovered. I waited for them to let me explain and find the paperwork in the glove box, and they eventually apologized and told me to get that taken care of, let me drive home.
 
That wasn't so bad, and it was understandable, though at the time I was coming home from a movie date with a girlfriend. She was much less impressed and we didn't go out again.
 
Another time I had a cop knock on my door - very red-faced and angry, hand on his gun, and demand to know where I had been the last few hours. I'd been out grocery shopping. He came in the living room still all square-off and talking on the radio until more cops arrived and I found me grocery bags with receipts and so forth. Turns out someone had stolen the front license plate off my car (which I didn't notice) and gotten involved in a high-speed chase and gotten away. They ran the plates and got my address and blazed over my way, checked and found my car was still hot...anyway, again a gruff eventual apology and they went on their way. Understandable.

Kelvin Mace (12,438 posts)      Thu Oct 30, 2014, 11:08 AM

26. Gosh, were do I start...

I was molested when I was 12 by a local prominent citizen. The police detective shows up on mother's doorstep with pictures of me (one of the reasons it couldn't be swept under the rug like most cases back in the day is that there were LOTS of pictures of lots of other boys). They explain to my mother (a 30 year old widow) that *if* I testified and helped the police, they wouldn't prosecute me for my "crimes". To my knowledge they did this to all the victims to insure we would testify, which fortunately, thanks to a plea deal we did not have to.
 
When I was 24 I was the victim of an armed robbery while working at a fast food restaurant as a manager. The police detective decided I had made the whole thing up and/or was in cahoots with the robber. I was invited in to talk to him at the station and it turned into a bad episode of CSI with the cop screaming at me, calling me a liar and telling me I was going to prison (the amount stolen was about $400). After an hour of this constant abuse I dug in my heals and said I wanted a lawyer and had no intention of answering anymore questions. He then took me out and photographed me before allowing me to leave, and told me he would be back to arrest me later.

He called me a few times after that telling me my arrest was imminent, so I said "**** it" and told him to either arrest me now, or leave me the **** alone. Never heard from him again. During the course of the interrogation he said he had spoken to witnesses who contradicted my story. I followed up later with people I knew had probably seen the robbery or heard the commotion and they told me they had never spoken to anyone from the police department and wondered why. One person had a partial plate number of the car the robber drove off in. The cop had simply decided I was lying and tried to coerce me into confessing.
 
When I was 35, a deputy sheriff showed up on my doorstep after midnight to inform me that my mother had been killed, struck by a car on her way to work. Weirdly, as shocked and upset as I was, I really felt bad for the deputy having to deliver the news. When I arrived in the town where my mother lived, I discovered that the person who had hit her was an undercover narcotics office for the county police department (coincidentally, the same department I had dealt with when I was 12).

Witnesses at the scene said the driver smelled strongly of alcohol. Other witnesses said they had seen the driver drinking at a bar 10 minutes before the accident. No sobriety tests were conducted, however my mother was autopsied and a drug screen was done while her body was still warm. Skid marks at the scene were 114 feet long, uphill and against the curb for 40 feet. Experts estimate the driver was doing 70 where the speed limit was 40. The police report described my mother's white nurse's uniform, white hose, white shoes and bright red jacket as "dark clothing", which I guess they were, after they were covered with blood.
 
I had the DA sit across his desk from me and tell me he didn't intend to press charges against the cop since my mother was obviously at fault, having "walked into the side of his car" while "dashing" across the street. Following an uproar in the local press, an outside prosecutor did charge him with reckless driving, but his defense was "there is no evidence I drove recklessly, except for the expert witness testimony that I was, so please exclude that." The judge did, and the charges were dismissed. It took 5 minutes.
 
I have never shared the first part of my experience before, and am not really sure why I am doing it now other than to say that police misconduct is endemic, ongoing, and tolerated by our society even in the most egregious of circumstances.

^^^the malicious cartoon character primitive; one of the principal allies of poor stupid Beth during the scam that rocked the internet more than nine years ago.

<<<was actually present at the creation of the third tale.

rppper (2,876 posts)    Thu Oct 30, 2014, 11:17 AM

28. Funny this thread should pop up this morning!

I was pulled over last night in Port Orange Florida for a headlight out. The officer was nice enough...I cooperated...but it became a 90 minute stop with a K-9 unit...I was picking up a son and nephew from a bar because they didn't want to drive....after a deep 30 minute search through my car I finally told an officer that they've searched my car from top to bottom and his dog was wrong, it was my wife's car, that she drives her children around in, and I was starting to feel intimidated and harased...that ended it a few minutes later and we were all released soon after...I was cited for not having my liscense on my person. I told my son later that I feared them trying to plant something in there for all of their time

BubbaFett (16 posts)    Thu Oct 30, 2014, 01:01 PM

39. I was beaten up by a cop

Big roid rage cop, took me out of sight on the way to lock up and beat the living **** out of me while I was handcuffed in the back of the squad car.

UglyGreed (609 posts)    Thu Oct 30, 2014, 02:06 PM

57. I don't know if it counts as

as violation of my rights, but, I was held at gunpoint after I moved into a new apartment as I was doing some carpentry work in the apartment at my landlord request.
 
I was new to the neighborhood and a neighbor called the police thinking I was robbing the place.

They came up with guns drawn, as I turned the corner and saw them through the kitchen window. I had shorts and a tool apron on and that was it.
 
I threw up my hands while holding a hammer into the air. They came into the house still pointing the guns at me and yelled to drop the hammer. My Brittany (best dog I ever had) ran out the door and I yelled please don't shoot my dog, he is just hyper and does not bite. I was pretty scared but once they realized I was not a threat they allowed me to retrieve my dog.
 
This was 1993 and IMO if I were a different color or perhaps this happened now my dog would be dead and I'm pretty sure I would not be typing right now

Yeah, yeah, yeah.  Sure, sure.

 

We all know about all the big bad cops.

No one however ever complains about all the big bad primitives.

[Carl]

I can`t think of once that was even close.

[thundley4]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/texas-foot-fetish-asks-woman-sexual-favors-article-1.1989109

Texas cop with foot fetish asks woman for sexual favors in return for not busting her: documents

DUmmies always have bouncies for things that recently make the news.

[DumbAss Tanker]

There are shitty, corrupt, even violent felon cops out there, small as the numbers may be.  Many of those stories could have happened to somebody, though the concentration of them in the membership of one Democrat lunatic asylum forum makes it appear rather unlikely that most of them happened to the posters.

[dixierose]

I've been stopped a few times (speeding, one headlight, stuck calipers caused me to swerve, etc); and I've NEVER had a bad experience with an officer. They will treat you the way you treat them.

[delilahmused]

They wouldn't just strip search an underage teenage girl because there was beer in the car she was in. How the hell are they so gullible as to believe that? One corrupt copy, maybe. At a police department...defies logic.

Cindie

[thundley4]

They wouldn't just strip search an underage teenage girl because there was beer in the car she was in. How the hell are they so gullible as to believe that? One corrupt copy, maybe. At a police department...defies logic.

Cindie

I doubt that any cop would have taken them to the station for an unopened 12 pack of beer even if only one person was of legal age.

[GOBUCKS]

I love bouncy contests! None of these are good, but they sure beat "war on women" or "queer rights" threads.

I used to get pulled over for being cute.

4

I know what the DUmmy means. I hate it when that happens.

[Happy Fun Ball]

None of these cops jumped out of the bushes?

Imagine my disappointment...

[BattleHymn]

My wife has been pulled over twice for appearing underage for driving.  Other than that, no troubles for her.

I once received a ticket for doing 67 in a 65.  That's about it for me. 

[BannedFromDU]

[franksolich]

There are shitty, corrupt, even violent felon cops out there, small as the numbers may be.  Many of those stories could have happened to somebody, though the concentration of them in the membership of one Democrat lunatic asylum forum makes it appear rather unlikely that most of them happened to the posters.

I'm sure there's a minuscule few bad cops in America, but it's just really odd how they all seem to pick on the primitives.

I think it's just the primitive "I wanna be a victim too" mentality, and so they make up these tales.

[BattleHymn]

What, no primitives regaling us with stories whining about the cops while at Occupooper protests? 

Here's my favorite:

[BannedFromDU]

What, no primitives regaling us with stories whining about the cops while at Occupooper protests? 

Here's my favorite:

     Usually they need help getting the Cheeto dust OFF, not on.

[ChuckJ]

marym625 (2,273 posts)    Thu Oct 30, 2014, 12:30 AM

Who has had police violate their rights?

I used to get pulled over for being cute. It was annoying and a little scary being pulled over when you had no idea why. But nothing like I experienced when I was 17.
 
When I was 17 I was in a car with 5 guys. One was my boyfriend. He and 1 other in the car were in a band. We were waiting for the place they were playing to open.
 
Cops approached and ordered us all out of the car. They searched us and the vehicle. No one had anything but there was an unopened 12 pack in the car. I was the only one under age.
 
They took us all down to the police station and held us for hours. They finally let the guys in the band go. The owner of the place they were playing at had called and was upset the band couldn't play.
 
I was then taken into a holding cell that had cameras and was strip searched. The guys watched the cops watching this happen to me.
 
They eventually let us all go. I never did anything because I wasn't supposed to be with my boyfriend. I was more afraid of my parents at that time.
 
I wonder how many others here have been abused by cops.

Believe me, that experience was horrible and still haunts me.

I got pulled over for being cute once. The cop used code like "you were traveling 15 miles per hour over the speed limit" in order to disguise the real reason I was pulled over.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I'm sure there's a minuscule few bad cops in America, but it's just really odd how they all seem to pick on the primitives.

I think it's just the primitive "I wanna be a victim too" mentality, and so they make up these tales.

I think you may underestimate the percentage, cops are no more inherently moral or honest than any other profession that requires a clean record, for instance, attorneys, tellers, or teachers.  By and large they are good guys, like most professionals, but like all other professions, there are definitely some weaker vessels and 'Small percentage' is  probably a better choice of words than 'Minuscule.'

But I think we are agreed on the DU drama factor...the events may have happened to someone, somewhere, but it is quite odd that so very many DUmmies seem to have had such singular experiences.

[Carl]

I think you may underestimate the percentage, cops are no more inherently moral or honest than any other profession that requires a clean record, for instance, attorneys, tellers, or teachers.  By and large they are good guys, like most professionals, but like all other professions, there are definitely some weaker vessels and 'Small percentage' is  probably a better choice of words than 'Minuscule.'

But I think we are agreed on the DU drama factor...the events may have happened to someone, somewhere, but it is quite odd that so very many DUmmies seem to have had such singular experiences.

I think it is fair to say that the percentage of true DUmbasses to have had an adversarial encounter with law enforcement far exceeds normal civilization.

[I_B_Perky]

I got pulled over for being cute once. The cop used code like "you were traveling 15 miles per hour over the speed limit" in order to disguise the real reason I was pulled over.

Yep Chuck. I must be the most handsome man in WV cause I get the same thing. Some even call me leadfoot. That must be code for "Damn boy, you so good looking I just had to pull you over and write a $200 ticket so I can look at your driver license!"

One state cop even asked me if I was Sammy Hagar. 

[Chris_]

I got pulled over for being cute once. The cop used code like "you were traveling 15 miles per hour over the speed limit" in order to disguise the real reason I was pulled over.

Many, many, many years ago, I got busted doing 85 in a 45.

I miss that motorcycle.

[BattleHymn]

Many, many, many years ago, I got busted doing 85 in a 45.

I miss that motorcycle.

What's the highest above you've been clocked?  Mine was when I was really, really dumb, in my first 280zx. 

I miss that car.   

[Chris_]

What's the highest above you've been clocked?  Mine was when I was really, really dumb, in my first 280zx. 

I miss that car.   

I passed a State Trooper doing well above 100mph on that same motorcycle. 

Good thing he was on the other side of a Jersey barrier and facing the other direction.  He did have his lights on.

[Ptarmigan]

Sounds like a bunch of bouncies.

[98ZJUSMC]

BubbaFett (16 posts)    Thu Oct 30, 2014, 01:01 PM

39. I was beaten up by a cop

Big roid rage cop, took me out of sight on the way to lock up and beat the living **** out of me while I was handcuffed in the back of the squad car.

Of course, being an uncooperative, loud mouthed, arrogant, jackass back-seat lawyer never came into play.

Quote from: BattleHymn on Today at 09:48:39 PM
What's the highest above you've been clocked?  Mine was when I was really, really dumb, in my first 280zx. 

I miss that car.   

Heh....

1989 Mustang LX Conv. 5.0L - 122.xxMPH by the speedo and it wanted more.  The stupidity of yoot.

Never, ever again.

[DefiantSix]

What's the highest above you've been clocked?  Mine was when I was really, really dumb, in my first 280zx. 

I miss that car.   

Father of a buddy of mine was pulled over for doing over 600 mph in a 45mph zone.

The judge tossed it out when buddy's dad brought in a letter from the Naval Shipyard CO, stating that "X" ship had been conducting tests of it's radar equipment on that date and time.

[BlueStateSaint]

I got nailed by the New York State Police doing 98 in a 55 when I was 17 . . . driving my mother's Dodge Aspen station wagon with the 225-cid straight-6 in it.  The Troopers said (after they had calmed down), "You were going downhill, and probably had a tailwind (Saint's note--obviously busting my balls!  I didn't say anything.).  But you did slow down to 81."  So they put 90 on the ticket . . . Needless to say, my parents were . . . "not amused."  (More along the lines of "batshit livid.")

I've been pulled over since then, and I always have the same drill--interior light on (if at night), hands on the wheel where the LEO can see them, and tell the LEO exactly what I'm going to do before I do it.  I've actually been written up maybe half of the time.  If you're respectful and comply with the LEO's directions when they are given, they're much more likely to be 'lenient.'  (Though, I've heard that the NYSP cannot be 'lenient' any more at the time of the stop--it's up to the DAs, and they rely heavily on the arresting LEO's notes.)