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Offline Eupher

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Why Republicans Don't Get It
« on: October 22, 2014, 10:52:36 AM »
I think Ben gets it. It's too bad the Republican elite class doesn't get it. At all.  :whatever:

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By Ben Shapiro

The Republican Party simply doesn't get it.

A new poll this week shows 2012 presidential nominee and 2008 primary candidate Mitt Romney leading the field of potential 2016 Republican candidates. According to ABC News/Washington Post, 21 percent of Republican voters would vote for Romney in the primaries; Jeb Bush and Mike Huckabee tie at 10 percent, followed by Rand Paul, Chris Christie and Paul Ryan. Altogether, some 44 percent of Republican primary voters want an "establishment" candidate -- by which we mean a candidate for whom social issues are secondary, immigration reform is primary and economics dominates.

The establishment donors on the coasts see this poll and believe that a consolidated funding effort mobilized behind the Chosen One (Romney, Bush, Christie or Ryan) could avoid a messy primary and keep the powder dry for a 2016 showdown with Hillary.

The conservative base knows this, and they groan.

That's because the conservative base understands that what motivates them is not the marginal tax rate -- nobody in the country knows, offhand, his or her effective tax rate -- but values. And none of the top priorities for Republican donors match the fire-in-the-belly issues that motivate the folks who knock on doors, phone bank and provide the under-$50 donations that could power a Republican to victory.

The divide between the establishment and the base represents a divide between the wallet and the working man, the penthouse and the pews, the Ivy Leagues and the homeschools. Which is why Republican leadership quietly assures its top donors that should Republicans win the Senate, their first legislative push will encompass corporate tax reform and immigration reform. They will not push primarily for border security, or for protection of religious freedom, or for repeal of Common Core. They will not use their opportunity to govern as an opportunity to draw contrast between conservatism and leftism. Instead, they will seek "common ground" in a vain attempt to show the American people that efficiency deserves re-election.

And the American people will go to sleep, conservatives will vomit in their mouths, and leftists will demonize Republicans all the same.

Conservatives understand that politics simply reflect underlying values. That's why they are passionate. They don't vote their pocketbooks. They vote their guts, and their guts tell them that leftism is immoral on the most basic level.

Republicans, on the other hand, believe that politics are just business by other means. That means that Republicans think Americans, left and right, share the same underlying values. That's a lie, and it's a self-defeating lie at that.

Until Republicans begin to appreciate the moral conflict between right and left, they will dishearten the right and provide easy targets for the left. The nominee won't matter; elections won't matter. And the alienation of the American conservative will deepen and broaden, until, one day, it bursts forth with a renewed fire that consumes the Republican Party whole.

http://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2014/10/22/draft-n1908233/page/2
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Re: Why Republicans Don't Get It
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2014, 11:05:41 AM »
The only reason Mitt Romney has a 10 point lead right now is name recognition.

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Re: Why Republicans Don't Get It
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2014, 01:50:11 PM »
I couldn't agree more with the article.  Thanks for posting that, Eupher.
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Re: Why Republicans Don't Get It
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2014, 02:07:23 PM »
Here is the a change that I would make.


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Republicans Politicians, on the other hand, believe that politics are just business by other means.

Career politicians...I do not like them. Maybe I should start my own thread about about my "displeasure" about this.
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Re: Why Republicans Don't Get It
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2014, 02:16:10 PM »
I'm going to apply the same logic to this that I did to Obama's election.

The responsibility does not lie with the politician, but with the electorate that votes for them.

“How fortunate for governments that the people     they administer don't think”  Adolph Hitler

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Re: Why Republicans Don't Get It
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2014, 02:27:35 PM »
I'm going to apply the same logic to this that I did to Obama's election.

The responsibility does not lie with the politician, but with the electorate that votes for them.

You are, sadly, 110% correct.

So I must ask myself, what is the point.

Oh...did you know that Jay Rockefeller is only worth, roughly $99 thousand dollars? This was back in 2011.

I LOLed.


Edit: You don't have to call me out, Jay was worth $99 million declared in 2011.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2014, 02:49:26 PM by EagleKeeper »
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Re: Why Republicans Don't Get It
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2014, 11:13:29 AM »
One of the underlying "problems" that is hedged at, is Republicans are frozen by the fear of Political Correctness, yet still don't get the point that the Lefties will always call them "names" no matter what.
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Re: Why Republicans Don't Get It
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2014, 02:49:38 PM »
One of the underlying "problems" that is hedged at, is Republicans are frozen by the fear of Political Correctness, yet still don't get the point that the Lefties will always call them "names" no matter what.

Do they ever stand up for themselves?  They seem to let the left smear them falsely, or tell lies about their policies, but never seem to come out fighting to set the record straight.
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Re: Why Republicans Don't Get It
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2014, 03:34:03 PM »
Do they ever stand up for themselves?  They seem to let the left smear them falsely, or tell lies about their policies, but never seem to come out fighting to set the record straight.

They act like abused children. I just don't get it, other than they know that the MSM will come out swinging with the typical "Rethugs are, blah, blah......" none of which is true. Hell, look at the DUmp and how they regurgitate the same talking points with fervor but no back up.
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Re: Why Republicans Don't Get It
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2014, 03:39:19 PM »
The average republican is constantly trying to appeal to lib's good will. They never seem to realize that libs don't have any.
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