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Offline Ptarmigan

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In Defense of Obama
« on: October 13, 2014, 10:53:51 PM »
In Defense of Obama
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/in-defense-of-obama-20141008#ixzz3FkyoyVwj 

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When it comes to Barack Obama, I've always been out of sync. Back in 2008, when many liberals were wildly enthusiastic about his candidacy and his press was strongly favorable, I was skeptical. I worried that he was naive, that his talk about transcending the political divide was a dangerous illusion given the unyielding extremism of the modern American right. Furthermore, it seemed clear to me that, far from being the transformational figure his supporters imagined, he was rather conventional-minded: Even before taking office, he showed signs of paying far too much attention to what some of us would later take to calling Very Serious People, people who regarded cutting budget deficits and a willingness to slash Social Security as the very essence of political virtue.

And I wasn't wrong. Obama was indeed naive: He faced scorched-earth Republican opposition from Day One, and it took him years to start dealing with that opposition realistically. Furthermore, he came perilously close to doing terrible things to the U.S. safety net in pursuit of a budget Grand Bargain; we were saved from significant cuts to Social Security and a rise in the Medicare age only by Republican greed, the GOP's unwillingness to make even token concessions.

But now the shoe is on the other foot: Obama faces trash talk left, right and center – literally – and doesn't deserve it. Despite bitter opposition, despite having come close to self-inflicted disaster, Obama has emerged as one of the most consequential and, yes, successful presidents in American history. His health reform is imperfect but still a huge step forward – and it's working better than anyone expected. Financial reform fell far short of what should have happened, but it's much more effective than you'd think. Economic management has been half-crippled by Republican obstruction, but has nonetheless been much better than in other advanced countries. And environmental policy is starting to look like it could be a major legacy.

Paul Krugman is delusional.  :mental: I wonder why he did not print it in the New York Times, but in Rolling Stone, another leftist rag.  :mental:
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Re: In Defense of Obama
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2014, 10:57:10 PM »
Of course Paul Krugman is going to defend Obama.  They both suffer from the same delusional mania that is liberalism.
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Re: In Defense of Obama
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2014, 11:04:27 PM »
All I had to do was see the name of the author to know it's BS.
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Re: In Defense of Obama
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2014, 11:40:36 PM »
A more appropriate title would be "Trying to defend the indefensible".

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I worried that he was naive, that his talk about transcending the political divide was a dangerous illusion given the unyielding extremism of the modern American right.

I stopped reading right there, because Obama has never budged an inch even to meet with RINOs.

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Re: In Defense of Obama
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2014, 11:56:19 PM »
A more appropriate title would be "Trying to defend the indefensible".

I stopped reading right there, because Obama has never budged an inch even to meet with RINOs.
"We won.  Get over it."
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Re: In Defense of Obama
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2014, 12:20:29 AM »
"We won.  Get over it."

You know, if the gop takes the senate and keeps the house, then every bill sent to Obama should have that written on every cover sheet.  :rofl:

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Re: In Defense of Obama
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2014, 10:44:29 AM »
You know, if the gop takes the senate and keeps the house, then every bill sent to Obama should have that written on every cover sheet.  :rofl:
I disagree.
It should be "You Lost"

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Re: In Defense of Obama
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2014, 10:48:54 AM »
"We won.  Get over it."
I disagree.
It should be "You Lost"

To a malignant narcissist like King Putt, it is the cruelest cut of all.

Let's split the difference. Every bill that goes to 0's desk should have "We Won, You Lost, Get Over It" rubberstamped on the front page.
That way, we get to make him eat his own words AND damage his malignant narcissism at the same time.

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Re: In Defense of Obama
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2014, 06:46:58 PM »
I disagree.
It should be "You Lost"

To a malignant narcissist like King Putt, it is the cruelest cut of all.

Narcissist of all forms do not like being told they are wrong and/or being told "no". To them is a cruel and severe insult.

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« Last Edit: October 18, 2014, 06:51:57 PM by Ptarmigan »
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Re: In Defense of Obama
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2014, 05:47:15 PM »
They both have nobel prizes they don't deserve, and didn't earn.
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