Big Mo needs attention

[Carl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025647068

Fri Oct 10, 2014, 10:50 AM

Star Member mopinko (42,358 posts)

meanwhile in the real world.
https://www.facebook.com/MoahsArk/posts/821277924560555?comment_id=821454674542880&reply_comment_id=822452244443123&offset=0&total_comments=83

as i said in my earlier thread, complete strangers see this differently than du. to say nothing of folks who actually know me, and have been here.
a shame that a few completely baseless allegations have destroyed my connections here. a place i used to be so proud to belong.
makes me quite sad.

Sorry lunatic,even your fellow dunces realize you are a lazy,filthy piece of scum.

Response to mopinko (Original post)

Fri Oct 10, 2014, 11:05 AM

questionseverything (1,591 posts)
1. don't be sad

i love ur farming/gardening

there is something very special about showing a child a tomato plant,picking a tomato and eating it RIGHT ON THE SPOT

do not let a few naysayers ruin anything for u.....mute them

post some more pics if you have time

weeds that flower are flowers...don't let any1 tell u otherwise

A reflection of the intelligence level of the average DUmbass.

[franksolich]

Well now, I'm thinking about inviting Big Mo over here, where she'll find a higher quality of company.

[USA4ME]

Skin's island and Facebook (or as you call it, "the real world"  ) isn't your problem, you whackjob. Your neighbors are.

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[tanstaafl]

Well now, I'm thinking about inviting Big Mo over here, where she'll find a higher quality of company.

She'd never do it.

And she won't leave Skin's Island of Misfits.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Well now, I'm thinking about inviting Big Mo over here, where she'll find a higher quality of company.

She would get her feelings terminally hurt in about seven nanoseconds, so that would be a pointless cruelty even if she accepted.  Outside of you (Or, at least, your on-line persona) everyone here hates her and/or thinks she's a boneheaded idiot who deserves everything that's happened to her.

[BattleHymn]

Well now, I'm thinking about inviting Big Mo over here, where she'll find a higher quality of company.

Ugh.  Imagine the smell!

[Chris_]

Does she eat the chickens or just keep them around as pets?

[obumazombie]

Does she eat the chickens or just keep them around as pets?

Bird flu.

[BattleHymn]

Does she eat the chickens or just keep them around as pets?

I seem to remember she eats them, too. I could be wrong, though.

[franksolich]

Oh my.

The lumpenunterprimitiven, the primitives who don't count, are still harassing Big Mo.

Gormy Cuss (29,005 posts)    Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:58 PM

3. Plants that we call weeds are prolific and often choke out other plants that we find more desirable.

Flowering weeds need to be deadheaded immediately else their seeds will spread and more weeds will appear in one's yard and the neighboring yards.
 
The other post was about code violations, not the habit of letting weeds flower.

mopinko (42,361 posts)    Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:07 PM

4. several of the cites were about weeds.

and calling raised beds piles of debris.

CreekDog (42,390 posts)    Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:13 PM

6. why is there random junk and debris strewn on that lot?

why is there what appears to be random garbage all about, like a broken dining room chair, empty containers of what appear to be laundry detergent and/or cat litter, just laying around as if you couldn't be bothered to put them in a recycling bin?
 
organic and sustainable farming is a terrific thing and urban gardens are awesome. but just ignoring every complaint and leaving things unkempt doesn't make it organic.
 
and you still won't answer how you keep runoff out of city sewers.

did you know that it's even more critical in an urban environment? if you have runoff that has any bacteria and nutrients from runoff from your lot, the city sewer system will transport that quickly, directly and without treatment to either your local rivers and streams or Lake Michigan.
 
so stop proclaiming victimhood and answer the environmental questions raised about your "organic" property.

^^^the primitive needs to stop being a rectal aperture.

Gormy Cuss (29,005 posts)    Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:25 PM

8. Were the code violations for allowing them to go to seed or something else?

I remember you mentioning hugelkultur beds cited as debris in your other post, which is puzzling since a functioning bed would have layers of leaf mulch and topsoil over the wood and branches and would be contained within retaining walls or similar structure.

mopinko (42,361 posts)    Fri Oct 10, 2014, 05:59 PM

13. it is contained w logs.

it is quite well covered w soil, and growing like mad.

3 raspberry plants planted last spring are now a 20' hedge that produced a gallon of berries. the hill also produced 200 lb of heirloom tomatoes.

all with no watering. zero.

the weeds are native plants that are selected, tended and used. the ordinance just says untended and over 10", which most werent. they count tall shrubs that are not neatly trimmed as "overgrown". even tho they arent.

CreekDog (42,390 posts)    Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:28 PM

2. what do you do to keep 100% of your fertilizer (chicken manure) out of city storm drains?

did you fully drain, and legally dispose of all the fluids/oils from the vehicle on your property which you are using as a chicken coop?
 
notice that this is not an accusation, but you wouldn't answer in your last thread and i'm not holding my breath that you will now.
 
given the google photos of the property, i don't know why the debris, the litter really, such as a discarded chair, strewn litter or detergent containers is on the property if it is in fact being properly cared for.

^^^the primitive needs to worry more about homicides in Chicago, than what Big Mo might, or might not, be doing to the ecosystem there.

Ass.

LexVegas (68 posts)     Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:14 PM

7. Keeping chickens in an abandoned junker is cruel.

It is not proper housing for the birds and quite unhealthy.

LeftyMom (47,025 posts)    Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:50 PM

9. ^This.

The OP has also posted on her FB page about how that unsafe contraption caused at least one of the birds to die horribly when it became entrapped.
 
She should be cited for cruelty and neglect for that incident alone.

mopinko (42,361 posts)    Fri Oct 10, 2014, 06:02 PM

14. it isnt an abandoned junker. it is an extensively retrofitted steel coop.

the birds are very healthy, thanks.

they are safe, they are dry, they are warm in winter, and well ventilated in summer.

LeftyMom (47,025 posts)    Fri Oct 10, 2014, 05:44 PM

10. The "before" pictures on Google Earth look much nicer, it was an empty but well-tended lot.

Having a garden is great. It's not a farm because you're not selling anything. My sewing room isn't a sweatshop no matter how much equipment I have.
 
But you're in a city and on a small lot. You need to make an effort to be a good neighbor. If your neighbors wanted to deal with rats and shit smells and junker cars they could go live in the country and save themselves a small fortune. You can redefine 50 flies into not a swarm, messy piles of brush and detritus into hugelkultur and a chicken killing deathtrap junk car into a coop, but you can't define what you're doing as being a considerate neighbor. You're making stinks and attracting vermin. That's not even close to okay, and it shouldn't even take the city getting involved to make you clean up, because decency and common sense should have kicked in about 48 flies and any rats at all ago.

CreekDog (42,390 posts)    Fri Oct 10, 2014, 05:50 PM

11. +1

add to the frustration is not one thing said indicates a willingness to fix a single one of the complaints or issues.
 
instead is simply a refrain that she is a victim, every single complaint is a "BS" complaint by a vengeful tenant.
 
i've asked her several times about the fluids from the vehicles on the property and how she can keep runoff from carrying nutrients and bacteria from chicken manure into city sewers (which are designed to quickly direct such runoff to streams, lakes and rivers).
 
with not a single response.

any question or criticism here is met with hostility, denial and a refusal to change ONE single thing.
 
her property is 100% perfect, that's why she isn't changing anything, it's 100% perfect.
 
or it's not, which is it?

[BattleHymn]

. what do you do to keep 100% of your fertilizer (chicken manure) out of city storm drains?

That's an easy one.  Chicken diapers!

[Carl]

mopinko (42,361 posts)    Fri Oct 10, 2014, 05:59 PM

13. it is contained w logs.

it is quite well covered w soil, and growing like mad.

3 raspberry plants planted last spring are now a 20' hedge that produced a gallon of berries. the hill also produced 200 lb of heirloom tomatoes.

all with no watering. zero.

the weeds are native plants that are selected, tended and used. the ordinance just says untended and over 10", which most werent. they count tall shrubs that are not neatly trimmed as "overgrown". even tho they arent.

It was 150 lbs just a couple days ago. 

If she got 50 lbs of tomatoes it would be a lot and yes,I do know what I am talking about as some here are aware of with my actual garden.

[obumazombie]

It was 150 lbs just a couple days ago. 

If she got 50 lbs of tomatoes it would be a lot and yes,I do know what I am talking about as some here are aware of with my actual garden.

Were you hiding in the bushes counting her harvest ?

[BattleHymn]

After studying the pictures of Mo's "farm", and then her person, I have to ask which is a bigger rat's nest- her "garden", or her hair? 

It's a shame she couldn't grow a comb out in that mess of tomatoes.

[tanstaafl]

It's a shame she couldn't grow a comb out in that mess of tomatoes.

I bet there's a couple of combs and a hairbrush or two hidden in that trash strewn side yard she calls her 'farm'.

[Dori]

Chickens have combs. 

[thundley4]

Chickens have combs.

I thought only the roosters did?

[franksolich]

She would get her feelings terminally hurt in about seven nanoseconds, so that would be a pointless cruelty even if she accepted.  Outside of you (Or, at least, your on-line persona) everyone here hates her and/or thinks she's a boneheaded idiot who deserves everything that's happened to her.

Well now, sir, you know exactly what’s going on here.

Of course I despise and loathe the primitives, and wish they’d all get run over by big semi-trucks, but once in a while, in isolated cases, my feelings towards one or another of them mellows…..temporarily.

I’m in Big Mo’s corner--and a lonely corner it is--as long as she refrains from saying something stupid, and as long as primitives lesser than her, the lumpenunterprimitiven, the faceless lynch-mob, keep on hounding and harassing her, what I’m doing is simply sticking up for the underdog.

I’ve been stunned at the violence directed at Big Mo by her fellow primitives.  It’s our job to criticize, chastise, denigrate, laugh at, taunt, them, while it’s their duty to stand by one of their own, in the name of solidarity against all we wicked people out here in the evil real world.

Here’s a case of hundreds of primitives who aren’t even worthy to wipe Big Mo’s posterior after she’s sat on the commode, daring to have the presumption to assume they have a “right” to criticize one of their betters.

[Dori]

I thought only the roosters did?

They both have combs and waddles, but the roosters' are bigger.

Their purpose is the chickens' ventilation system. 

[thundley4]

They both have combs and waddles, but the roosters' are bigger.

Their purpose is the chickens' ventilation system.

Now that you mention that, I do seem to remember something about that from long ago.

[fatboy]

.....I’m in Big Mo’s corner--and a lonely corner it is--as long as she refrains from saying something stupid, and as long as primitives lesser than her, the lumpenunterprimitiven, the faceless lynch-mob, keep on hounding and harassing her, what I’m doing is simply sticking up for the underdog.

I’ve been stunned at the violence directed at Big Mo by her fellow primitives.  It’s our job to criticize, chastise, denigrate, laugh at, taunt, them, while it’s their duty to stand by one of their own, in the name of solidarity against all we wicked people out here in the evil real world....

The lesson we received today is thus: Many here in the cave would assume that primitives don't care if the neighbor has a trashed-up yard complete with a wrecked car chicken coop. But we come to find out that this isn't necessarly the case. Apparently, a few select DUmmies, moles possibly, want to enjoy their space. 

The real question in my mind is, if Big Mo had her farm next to kpete's  cottage, would Alex be the one calling 311 while at the same time telling her that she "loves" what she has doing with the place?

[Carl]

Well now, sir, you know exactly what’s going on here.

Of course I despise and loathe the primitives, and wish they’d all get run over by big semi-trucks, but once in a while, in isolated cases, my feelings towards one or another of them mellows…..temporarily.

I’m in Big Mo’s corner--and a lonely corner it is--as long as she refrains from saying something stupid, and as long as primitives lesser than her, the lumpenunterprimitiven, the faceless lynch-mob, keep on hounding and harassing her, what I’m doing is simply sticking up for the underdog.

I’ve been stunned at the violence directed at Big Mo by her fellow primitives.  It’s our job to criticize, chastise, denigrate, laugh at, taunt, them, while it’s their duty to stand by one of their own, in the name of solidarity against all we wicked people out here in the evil real world.

Here’s a case of hundreds of primitives who aren’t even worthy to wipe Big Mo’s posterior after she’s sat on the commode, daring to have the presumption to assume they have a “right” to criticize one of their betters.

Barry has run to her rescue but skippy has not fared well either in his defense of the useless scrunt.

[Dori]

I think she turned some DUmmies against her when she turned her renter into the authorities.

[franksolich]

Barry has run to her rescue but skippy has not fared well either in his defense of the useless scrunt.

You gotta be kidding me.

I'm being absent for a while, but still checking in occasionally; I haven't been on Skins's island since Friday morning, so I haven't seen his "defense."

I'm however really surprised, because Skippy's friendships with others is about as strong as wispy gossamer.  In other words, a slight breeze, and oops, he doesn't care any more.  Look at how quickly he suddenly didn't care about one of his best buds on Skins's island, walrus-face.

[USA4ME]

In the case of gov't vs. primitive, gov't must be favored by other primitives. The law of liberalism states that gov't trumps all.

Unless, of course, breaking the law hurts Republicans/conservatives.

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