babylonsister (148,213 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025638121
"...there are some striking problems with Panetta’s complaints about Obama."
There is. Why didn't Leon have the guts to say something while it was going on? What's that? He supports Hillary? oh... never mind...
LawDeeDah (284 posts)
1. Excellent, this line says it all:
That’s the default view of practically everyone in Washington: Using military force shows strong leadership. Declining to use military force shows weakness. But most folks inside the Beltway don’t even seem to realize they feel this way. It’s just part of the air they breathe…. This is what Obama is up against.
If Obama doesn't play the aggressive war game with made up bullshit lies and excuses for them, such as his predessesors have then how will the next mass murdering **** in the line up for Pres gonna look like compared? A mass murdering lying ****?
This is what is worrying the establishment.
I think that is barry did something rather than waffle on every single thing he's done then people would think that maybe he's got some balls. BUT- he doesn't. He flinches from ever making a choice until ti's too late and then if it fails he blames someone else.
liberalmike27 (2,174 posts)
21. Panetta
Has become just another in a long line of Clinton associates that seem to either become open Republicans, or show open disdain for actual Democratic policies, or Democrats specifically.
Yeah..... no.
Frustratedlady (9,702 posts)
2. And, Hillary offered him which job? Panetta should retire from public service. He also should have waited until Obama was out of office before slamming him, let alone wait until after the election. I've lost what respect I had for him. Sorry, Panetta, but I won't be buying your book.
of course this sort of thing was very popular around the dump when W. was in office.
calimary (35,886 posts)
17. I'd go with ****ing TURNCOAT. I won't be bothering with his damn book, either. He's giving aid and comfort to the enemy, FLAT OUT. Both foreign and domestic. ESPECIALLY domestic.
Now, pay attention to this- according to the DUmpmonkiez if you don't blindly follow barry you are a traitor to the country. The enemy to them is anyone who dissagrees with them...
BeyondGeography (24,108 posts)
5. What's funny is when the anti-Obama hair-on-fire types invoke Leon Panetta, the prince of ****ing Beltway darkness, to support their "critique."
JoePhilly (20,975 posts)
12. The media loves to push complaints about Obama from left and right ...... while never pushing those opposing forces towards a debate with each other. If you are attacking Obama, you can jump back and forth arguing from the left and the right, and the media will never notice the position switching. Thus Obama is weak, and a war monger.
sabrina 1 (46,912 posts)
16. If Obama had put real Democrats in his cabinet, not Republicans like Gates, or spokespersons for the
PNAC and MIC, like Panetta, or torture supporters like Brennan, or Bush loyalists like those still running the useless NSA, he might not have had to worry about these kinds of betrayals.
In Jan 2009 he had a mandate from the people who had just thrown out those who created the failed policies Panetta is now espousing. That was the time to find some smart, strong Democrats that he could trust to put in place policies that would have exposed the criminal policies of those Panetta seems to be speaking for.
I support this President's policies regarding Syria, perhaps he learned after Libya that listening to these warmongers was a huge mistake.
Someone has to start calling what they did CRIMES against HUMANITY so it gets fixed in people's minds, and then, when they hear them speak they will give them all the credibility they deserve.
But, regarding all these betrayals, one after the other, of those the President thought he could trust, all I have to say is 'what was he thinking'?
whereisjustice (466 posts)
22. what the **** - we've got another war, wages continue to stagnate and it's lookinglikely that another crash is just around the corner. We've got police brutality, NSA spying on us and an AWOL congress fattening themselves on millions of corporate dollars. Federal science funding is at all time low, our education system torturing our kids and health care cost continue to climb.
And we've still got the oligarchs who **** us over every day sniping at each other. Maybe Panetta can star in his own reality TV show with the real wives of Orlando. Jesus, what more does he want?
I thought barry was going to bring light into the world...
Dont call me Shirley (2,074 posts)
26. What did anyone expect, he's a republican!?
Yes.. Leon is now a republican.
Ikonoklast (23,497 posts)
53. Wonder what cabinet post Hillary offered him? Leon Panetta, water carrier for hire, Third Way devotee, Hillary bootlicker.
Once Hillary gets the nod in the primary it's gonna be all KristallNacht up in here!
