primitives pee pants over scary gun machine, hoyt primitive gets beat up

[BattleHymn]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025614877

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 12:26 AM
Star Member Logical (13,994 posts)

That $1,200 Machine for Making Untraceable Guns Just Sold Out in 36 Hours

Americans want guns without serial numbers. And apparently, they want to make them at home.

On Wednesday, Cody Wilson’s libertarian non-profit Defense Distributed revealed the Ghost Gunner, a $1,200 computer-controlled (CNC) milling machine designed to let anyone make the aluminum body of an AR-15 rifle at home, with no expertise, no regulation, and no serial numbers. Since then, he’s sold more than 200 of the foot-cubed CNC mills—175 in the first 24 hours. That’s well beyond his expectations; Wilson had planned to sell only 110 of the machines total before cutting off orders.

To keep up, Wilson says he’s now raising the price for the next round of Ghost Gunners by $100. He has even hired another employee to add to Defense Distributed’s tiny operation. That makes four staffers on the group’s CNC milling project, an offshoot of its larger mission to foil gun control with digital DIY tools.

“People want this machine,” Wilson tells WIRED. “People want the battle rifle and the comfort of replicability, and the privacy component. They want it, and they’re buying it.”

More at: http://www.wired.com/2014/10/1200-machine-making-untraceable-guns-just-sold-36-hours/

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 12:29 AM
MohRokTah (4,660 posts)
1. This Genie is offcially loose.

Nothing can stop this now.

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 12:49 AM
Star Member ZombieHorde (27,424 posts)
3. Well that's interesting.

I wonder who's buying them.

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 12:55 AM
Star Member Hoyt (17,130 posts)
4. So those responsible, law-abiding gun nuts are a myth. Time to end

the gun madness with laws like Australia enacted in 1996.

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:00 AM
Star Member friendly_iconoclast (10,594 posts)
5. Kindly point out for us what illegal thing you think the "gun nuts" are doing

Apparently, Jerry Brown has no problem with it. Why do you?


http://gov.ca.gov/docs/SB_808_Veto_Message.pdf

OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR

SEP 30 2014

To the Members of the California State Senate:
I am returning Senate Bill 808 without my signature.

SB 808 would require individuals who build guns at home to first obtain a serial number
and register the weapon with the Department of Justice.

I appreciate the author's concerns about gun violence, but I can't see how adding a serial
number to a homemade gun would significantly advance public safety.

Sincerely,


Edmund G. Brown Jr.

Uh oh.

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 12:22 PM
Star Member Hoyt (17,130 posts)
13. You really don't get it. Lots of things are legal that aren't good for society.

The gun nuts, trying to build gunz at home, are likely members of the Bundy Militia, compound dwellers, right wing racists, domestic terrorists, or worse.

I see no reason to make their use of gunz for intimidation easier for them. Apparently, you guys think it's cool.

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 01:59 PM
Star Member friendly_iconoclast (10,594 posts)
14. "Lots of things are legal that aren't good for society." What are *you* doing to change things?

Aside from reposting pictures and issuing diktats about what is or isn't good
for society, that is?

I'll take the word of a long-serving Democratic governor over that of some self-appointed
improver

I swear, gun control advocates are right next to the people who put "Coexist" bumperstickers
on their cars, or retweet #BringBackOurGirls in the front ranks of "those who do little or
nothing while thinking they're actually achieving something"

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 05:45 PM
Star Member Hoyt (17,130 posts)
17. Republican governors, senators, congress people, etc , see gunz like you.

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 07:08 PM
NickB79 (11,323 posts)
19. You skirted the question that was asked of you

Now you're moving the goalposts.

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 09:42 PM
GGJohn (93 posts)
62. Know a lot of RW racists do you?

You have any evidence to back up your statements? Real evidence with reputable links?

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 04:48 PM
Star Member friendly_iconoclast (10,594 posts)
44. You also haven't told us what *you're* doing (aside from posting online) to change things

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 09:46 PM
Star Member Hoyt (17,130 posts)
63. Where I live, yes, and all are into gunz. I suspect it's much the same whrre you

reside. I'm betting gun shows, gun stores, those who promote gunz , etc., there aren't very diverse.

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 09:49 PM
GGJohn (93 posts)
64. I don't know any RW racists, I do have a lots of friends who own lots of firearms

and guess what? They're all of the same political stripe as I am, solid progressive/liberal.
When we do attend firearms shows, it's usually a pretty good mix of AA, Asian, Caucasian, Hispanic.
But enough of me, can you post any evidence with reputable links that it's mostly RW racists arming up?

Sun Oct 5, 2014, 12:05 PM
GGJohn (93 posts)
73. Can I get an answer to my question in post #62?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5622369

But enough of me, can you post any evidence with reputable links that it's mostly RW racists arming up?

Sun Oct 5, 2014, 01:19 PM
Star Member Hoyt (17,130 posts)
74. I gave you an answer, you didn't like it. It's my experience, NRA leadership is made up of racists,

look at gun groups, mostly racists. Go to any gun show, mostly right wing racists. Look at gun stores, mostly right wing racists. Look at those who promote gunz, mostly right wing racists. Look at TParty members, mostly right wing racists. Look at militia groups, mostly right wing racists. Look at armed Border Klan, mostly right wing racists.

Do you have evidence to the contrary?

Lots of stuff in politics don't have concrete evidence, but are pretty clear.

I don't need a study sponsored by the NRA, or other right wing lobbying groups, to convince me otherwise.

Sun Oct 5, 2014, 01:36 PM
joeglow3 (5,427 posts)
76. I could be wrong, but

I will bet my life savings you don't go to gun shows.

That said, of all the people I know who own guns (I don't own any), NONE fit any category you laid out.

The hoyt primitve got one righteous ass beating in that thread, and I only rowed back a tiny bit of it.  It's worth a row over. 

[I_B_Perky]

Sun Oct 5, 2014, 01:19 PM
Star Member Hoyt (17,130 posts)
74. I gave you an answer, you didn't like it. It's my experience, NRA leadership is made up of racists,

look at gun groups, mostly racists. Go to any gun show, mostly right wing racists. Look at gun stores, mostly right wing racists. Look at those who promote gunz, mostly right wing racists. Look at TParty members, mostly right wing racists. Look at militia groups, mostly right wing racists. Look at armed Border Klan, mostly right wing racists.

Do you have evidence to the contrary?

Lots of stuff in politics don't have concrete evidence, but are pretty clear.

I don't need a study sponsored by the NRA, or other right wing lobbying groups, to convince me otherwise.

Funny... everyone the dummie disagrees with is raaaacist.  I guess I must be an extreme racist seeing as I go to gun shows, gun stores, support the Tea Party and a member of the NRA. Can't say I ever belonged to a militia or participated in border patrol. If I do that does that mean I get raaacist of the year award, dummie?

Asswipe.

[Ralph Wiggum]

DUmmy says "lots of things in politics don't have evidence, but are pretty clear".

Nice broad brush smear based on nothing but your clearly pre-conceived bias.

Asshole.

[Ptarmigan]

Funny... everyone the dummie disagrees with is raaaacist.  I guess I must be an extreme racist seeing as I go to gun shows, gun stores, support the Tea Party and a member of the NRA. Can't say I ever belonged to a militia or participated in border patrol. If I do that does that mean I get raaacist of the year award, dummie?

Asswipe.

Everything to them is racist. Such miserable existence.

[I_B_Perky]

Everything to them is racist. Such miserable existence.

Dummies ain't happy unless they are unhappy, Ptarmy. Miserable existence indeed.  I think if I was that miserable all the time I would just off myself and be done with it. 

[Ptarmigan]

Dummies ain't happy unless they are unhappy, Ptarmy. Miserable existence indeed.  I think if I was that miserable all the time I would just off myself and be done with it. 

Exactly. They feed on their own and off of other's misery. DU is a very depressing place.

[98ZJUSMC]

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 09:49 PM
GGJohn (93 posts)
64. I don't know any RW racists, I do have a lots of friends who own lots of firearms and guess what? They're all of the same political stripe as I am, solid progressive/liberal.  When we do attend firearms shows, it's usually a pretty good mix of AA, Asian, Caucasian, Hispanic.  But enough of me, can you post any evidence with reputable links that it's mostly RW racists arming up?

There is a reason for that.  By your own admission, you are around them all the time yet, you cannot mention any.  Perhaps, they really don't exist outside of the TV?  Kudos for not spinning a bouncy.

Sun Oct 5, 2014, 01:36 PM
joeglow3 (5,427 posts)
76. I could be wrong, but I will bet my life savings you don't go to gun shows.

That said, of all the people I know who own guns (I don't own any), NONE fit any category you laid out.

Heh....good one.  The thread....it's full of straw!

Exactly. They feed on their own and off of other's misery. DU is a very depressing place.

A room full of insane children can be no other way.


...and alllllll the children are insane.

The end.

[BlueStateSaint]

Funny... everyone the dummie disagrees with is raaaacist.  I guess I must be an extreme racist seeing as I go to gun shows, gun stores, support the Tea Party and a member of the NRA. Can't say I ever belonged to a militia or participated in border patrol. If I do that does that mean I get raaacist of the year award, dummie?

Asswipe.

We can play that game too . . .

How many objections do you hear to pedophiles at the DUmp?

[fatboy]

Sun Oct 5, 2014, 01:19 PM
Star Member Hoyt (17,130 posts)
74.....

Do you have evidence to the contrary?

Lots of stuff in politics don't have concrete evidence, but are pretty clear.

I don't have any evidence handy but wonder how many gun grabbers have felony drug and/or domestic violence convictions that disqualify them from owning the gunz?