nadin pontificates on the fate of Sgt Tahmooressi

[JakeStyle]

From her FB page.

Nadin Brzezinski
23 mins · San Diego, CA ·

I have not written about Sergeant Tamoreesi's fate, but what he is accused off are extremely serious federal charges in Mexico. The judge was looking at quite possibly a humanitarian release, but what really bothers me is this. If Tamoreesi was Mexican, facing U.S. Federal Charges and all else was the same. Veteran of the Mexican Military, suffering from some form of medial ailment that we had no way to treat, most of the folks who are going free the sergeant, would be saying fry the sergeant. Those double standards really annoy me.

And yes, as I have looked into the case, the Mexican DA is looking at extremely serious charges not just because of the three guns, which are ilegal in Mexico and all of them were the kind the military and police forces use, but the thousands of rounds of ammunition.

But to hear Montel Williams on the TV tell the story, they are just being mean. And yes, the legal system is very different, for starters, right now the Sergeant and his lawyer have to prove he is NOT guilty, not the other way around.

And it is not as simple as POTUS picking up the phone. On the bright side, if he is released on humanitarian grounds because he is deemed incompetent to stand trial due to mental illness, guess what? That will be transmitted to US Law enforcement and likely he will have to go to a medical center for mental illness. And that is exactly what the judge is looking at. Those are the humanitarian grounds. If I understand US law correctly, he will not be able to LEGALLY own a gun in the US ever again either. Which might not be a bad idea, either.

 

[franksolich]

This is very curious:

.....right now the Sergeant and his lawyer have to prove he is NOT guilty, not the other way around.

From the tone of the entire post, it looks as if nadin approves of this.

Guilty until proven innocent.

[JakeStyle]

This is very curious:

From the tone of the entire post, it looks as if nadin approves of this.

Guilty until proven innocent.

She has been pretty consistent in her position that that third world shithole is superior to the US in every way, I'm sure that she does approve.

[thundley4]

Nadin Brzezinski
23 mins · San Diego, CA ·

I have not written about Sergeant Tamoreesi's fate, but what he is accused off are extremely serious federal charges in Mexico. The judge was looking at quite possibly a humanitarian release, but what really bothers me is this. If Tamoreesi was Mexican, facing U.S. Federal Charges and all else was the same. Veteran of the Mexican Military, suffering from some form of medial ailment that we had no way to treat, most of the folks who are going free the sergeant, would be saying fry the sergeant. Those double standards really annoy me.

BS. Obama would have already ordered his release, granted him citizenship and given him welfare for life.

[GOBUCKS]

From the tone of the entire post, it looks as if nadin approves of this.

Guilty until proven innocent.

nadin doesn't worry about such details.

From the beginning, she KNOWS.

[dane]

One would think that as interested as Nadin seems to be in this incident, she would spell the guy's name (former Marine Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi) correctl....never mind.

Here's an interesting (to me) article. http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-ra-tahmooressi-spin-machine-20140807-column.html#page=

1At times, unfortunately, this young man has been his own worst enemy. After he was arrested, for instance, he claimed he had never been to Mexico before. In fact, he had crossed the border several times, including earlier on the day of his arrest, when he walked into Mexico, checked into Tijuana's Hotel Nelson, then checked out and walked back to the U.S. hours later. (This means that he left his three loaded guns and ammo sitting in his Ford F-150 truck in a San Ysidro parking lot for hours.)

There, (in his current prison) he receives frequent visits from a pastor and is allowed to spend up to two hours a day on the phone. On Monday, after a five-hour hearing in Tijuana's federal courthouse, Judge Victor Octavio Luna Escobedo allowed him to spend 20 minutes with his mother, as families of other defendants in court that day stood outside the building, hoping for glimpses of their loved ones.

[miskie]

BS. Obama would have already ordered his release, granted him citizenship and given him welfare for life.

Exactly. Take a look at the illegal 'children' - many of them are better than 20 years old - and here they are, doing pretty much anything they want on the taxpayer dime. Both the Sargent and the 'children' entered countries illegally - however, the one that did so accidentally and turned himself in is in jail, while the thousands of others who did so intentionally are getting food, education, and (most likely) Obamaphones. 

..And a large number of the illegals from South America arrive armed, so you can put that argument away right now Nads.

[USA4ME]

And it (his release) is not as simple as POTUS picking up the phone.

Yes, it is, you dunce.

If we've gotten to the point where the POTUS can't pick up the phone and tell Mexico they have one of our soldiers that got in the wrong lane and we want him back, then this particular prez is weak indeed.

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[J P Sousa]

Exactly. Take a look at the illegal 'children' - many of them are better than 20 years old - and here they are, doing pretty much anything they want on the taxpayer dime. Both the Sargent and the 'children' entered countries illegally - however, the one that did so accidentally and turned himself in is in jail, while the thousands of others who did so intentionally are getting food, education, and (most likely) Obamaphones. 

..And a large number of the illegals from South America arrive armed, so you can put that argument away right now Nads.

The mayor of Lynn, Mass. says that some of the illegal aliens from Guatemala who are enrolled in her city’s public schools are adults with graying hair and “more wrinkles than I have.”   

“They are not all children,” Judith Flanagan Kennedy told reporters at a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday.


http://cnsnews.com/news/article/penny-starr/mayor-adult-illegal-aliens-graying-hair-enrolled-public-schools

She said the DOJ (the criminal DOJ) says they CANNOT ask for verification of age. 
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[Bad Dog]

Nads just aint the same without the bullies.  At least I now know the sound of one hand clapping and, it's boring.

[Ptarmigan]

Is she going to be the Ebola Expert?

[98ZJUSMC]

Is she going to be the Ebola Expert?

Maybe she took the hint after the tsun- ...... pffffftttt what am i saying? 

EDIT:

Just on a lark, I searched Ebola and scanned the top 10 threads.  Nada Gnads. 

[JakeStyle]

Nadin Brzezinski
3 hrs · San Diego, CA · Edited ·

Ok I take it back, After seeing the keystone mistakes in Texas... no, not time to panic YET. but boy, those are rookie mistakes. I know I know, Ebola control is NOT high tech. This is truly public health 101 and it is as basic as it gets. By the way, I feel for the worker who cleaned the vomit outside the apartment where patient zero was taken by the EMS crew. He should have had a tyvek suit, a respirator, gloves and goggles on. Those are the kinds of rookie mistakes I am talking about.

I get it if the medics did not have all that crap, since well... there was no diagnosis. From now on, which will suck, I expect that crap if they are transporting somebody with the flu.

And keeping the people inside in self quarantine (yes you do that) but not taking all the infected things out... again, that is a rookie mistake. I know, I know, this is not high end technology... nor fancy meds. It is really basic and all that, but damn people, Texas can do better.

She has the experience and the know-how,  This chick is on fire.

If only her face didn't look like last months bologna.

[obumazombie]

With nadin's medic background, she could have the ebola epidemic wiped out overnight.

[thundley4]

Nadin Brzezinski
3 hrs · San Diego, CA · Edited ·

Ok I take it back, After seeing the keystone mistakes in Texas... no, not time to panic YET. but boy, those are rookie mistakes. I know I know, Ebola control is NOT high tech. This is truly public health 101 and it is as basic as it gets. By the way, I feel for the worker who cleaned the vomit outside the apartment where patient zero was taken by the EMS crew. He should have had a tyvek suit, a respirator, gloves and goggles on. Those are the kinds of rookie mistakes I am talking about.

You dumb scrunt. He wouldn't  need more than gloves if he was using proper clean up procedures for bodily fluids. A pressure washer was not the right way to go.

[GOBUCKS]

Nadin Brzezinski
3 hrs · San Diego, CA · Edited ·

Ok I take it back, After seeing the keystone mistakes in Texas... no, not time to panic YET. but boy, those are rookie mistakes. I know I know, Ebola control is NOT high tech. This is truly public health 101 and it is as basic as it gets. By the way, I feel for the worker who cleaned the vomit outside the apartment where patient zero was taken by the EMS crew. He should have had a tyvek suit, a respirator, gloves and goggles on. Those are the kinds of rookie mistakes I am talking about.

I'm having a flashback!

nadinbrzezinski  Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Wed Mar-16-11 09:09 PM
Original message
Ok I want you people to understand something right now


Here they also have people inside the exclusion zone. From a TRIAGE perspective it is not that people are afraid to go in there to get them. Just that going in will get more people killed... now or later... really does not matter.

As an Emergency Worker it gets to the point that you have to give up... and it might seem cruel... given thousands are still in the zone from what I can read... but this is the reality of it.

And typing this is hard, because these people LOOK healthy, can talk to you, and all that.

This is the way it is... cruel, cold yes... unfortunately the needs of the few do not override the needs of the many.. even if the few are a few thousand people.

Nor would I ask any crew member of mine to go in... with or without equipment. I would not ask that... either.

It goes without saying... NOBODY DESERVES THIS, but this is the very cold and bitchy reality.

Why I was hopping for these people, but as long as this goes on... yes somebody pretty high up has made that decision... and no, it has nothing to do with capitalism but all to do with TRIAGE. Oh and incidentally if I happened to be inside the exclusion zone... I pretty much expect to be left behind... that is the way it is.

[Chris_]

suffering from some form of medial ailment that we had no way to treat

[FlippyDoo]

I know, I know, this entire DU / nadin situation is tragic. Nadin knows that the DUmp needs her wisdom, but she apparently won't come back until they beg her. The problem is that the DUmp is simply too stupid to know they need her (which is precisely why they need her) so they probably won't be begging any time soon.

Frankly, I feel that it is somewhat selfish on nadin's part. She knows she's more intelligent than the entire true DU membership combined so she should know that they're too stupid to realize they need her. What are they going to do when it gets near freezing and rains if she's not there to tell them not to go out in the rain? What will they do when (not IF) the windmill blades attack? Letting such ignorant individuals just hang in the wind...well...that be retardant.

[GOBUCKS]

well...that be retardant.

We should never let that nadinism fade away.

It ranks up there with "24 business hours" and "blink, blink, blink, blink".

[vesta111]

I know, I know, this entire DU / nadin situation is tragic. Nadin knows that the DUmp needs her wisdom, but she apparently won't come back until they beg her. The problem is that the DUmp is simply too stupid to know they need her (which is precisely why they need her) so they probably won't be begging any time soon.

Frankly, I feel that it is somewhat selfish on nadin's part. She knows she's more intelligent than the entire true DU membership combined so she should know that they're too stupid to realize they need her. What are they going to do when it gets near freezing and rains if she's not there to tell them not to go out in the rain? What will they do when (not IF) the windmill blades attack? Letting such ignorant individuals just hang in the wind...well...that be retardant.

For some reason I am trying to remember the Chicken Little Story and the FOX that lead the flock  to safety in his cave when the sky was starting to fall ---------

It was for their own good, the FOX was their friend and had been a friend and protector against the others that wanted to destroy the Chickens,  but, the good old FOX came in to protect them until the day came that the flock was growing every day and it was time to Cull the flock.   

[franksolich]

One longs for people such as Lord Palmerston, the greatest Englishman of the 19th century:

In 1847 the home of Don Pacifico, a Gibraltaran merchant living in Athens, Greece, was attacked by an anti-Semitic mob. The mob included the sons of a Greek government minister and, during the attack, Greek police did not intervene and stood by and watched the attack.

Because Don Pacifico was a British subject, the British government expressed concern. In January 1850 Palmerston took advantage of Don Pacifico's claims on the Greek government and blockaded the port of Piraeus in the kingdom of Greece. As Greece was under the joint protection of three powers, Russia and France protested against its coercion by the British fleet.
 
.....This was the most eloquent and powerful speech he ever delivered, wherein he sought to vindicate not only his claims on the Greek government for Don Pacifico, but his entire administration of foreign affairs.
 
It was in this speech, which lasted five hours, Palmerston made the well known declaration that a British subject ought everywhere to be protected by the strong arm of the British government against injustice and wrong; comparing the reach of the British Empire to that of the Roman Empire, in which a Roman citizen could walk the earth unmolested by any foreign power. This was the famous Civis Romanus sum ("I am a citizen of Rome") speech.

[sharkhawk]

With nadin's medic background, she could have the ebola epidemic wiped out overnight.

God it must be killing her to not be able the DUmmies on her expertise. I can imagine her at her keyboard turning red and almost exploding.   I'm giving heartily Monday before she breaks down

[Vagabond]

It's quite easy actually.  Simply explain to Mexico that, starting immediately, all remittances being sent to Mexico would be halted by the President's authority, and he does have such authority, until our citizen is returned and compensated for his imprisonment.  Mexico would have him back in the USA within the hour.

[JakeStyle]

One would think that as interested as Nadin seems to be in this incident, she would spell the guy's name (former Marine Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi) correctl....never mind.

Here's an interesting (to me) article. http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-ra-tahmooressi-spin-machine-20140807-column.html#page=

I don't believe the guys story, it's full of holes and exaggerations. Regardless, he is a US Marine, the Mexican gov needs to release him and let us deal with it.

[obumazombie]

I don't believe the guys story, it's full of holes and exaggerations. Regardless, he is a US Marine, the Mexican gov needs to release him and let us deal with it.

It's not on the agenda. If owebuma had 5 dangerous terrorists he could free in return for Tahmooressi, that would be on the agenda.