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DUmmies Cheer On The Paulbots
« on: September 18, 2014, 08:23:43 PM »
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Ann Coulter: 'Idiots' Who Vote Libertarian Will Cost GOP The Senate Majoirty

Conservative pundit Ann Coulter on Wednesday laid out the strategy she thinks will help the GOP win the Senate, trying to scare Republicans into following her detailed instructions. She seemed incredibly concerned that libertarian candidates and the people that vote for them will ruin the election for everyone.

"The biggest current danger for Republicans is that idiots will vote for Libertarian candidates in do-or-die Senate elections, including Kentucky, Kansas, North Carolina and Colorado," she wrote in her column, adding that the independent candidate in the Kansas race also poses a threat to the party. "Democratic candidates don't have to put up with this crap — they're even trying to dump the official Democrat in Kansas to give the stealth Democrat a better shot."

In close races, libertarian candidates could pull votes from Republicans, helping out the Democrat, especially in states like Louisiana and North Carolina. "When we're all dying from lack of health care across the United States of Mexico, we'll be deeply impressed with your integrity, libertarians,"

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1. I've been telling every teabagger I know they should vote Libertarian

I tell them that the GOP doesn't represent their views, that the Libertarian party is the best fit for them.

If it helps to fracture the GOP and ensure that we take firm control, then I'm fine with it.


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Re: DUmmies Cheer On The Paulbots
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2014, 08:40:15 PM »
I have suspected that some Paulbots are leftists.
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Re: DUmmies Cheer On The Paulbots
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2014, 09:14:16 PM »
Their pro-drug, open-borders stance also appeals to hard-core stupid young Lefties, DUmmies, this thing could very easily backfire on you.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2014, 09:32:16 PM »
Mitch Mcconnell and Grimes are so similar, I'm thinking of sitting this one out.  Better to not vote evil at all than the lesser of the two.
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Re: DUmmies Cheer On The Paulbots
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2014, 09:45:54 PM »
Hardcore party Libertarians are often so far around the bend that they are Siamese twins to fringe leftists.
The only difference being some fiscal issues and the fact that the leftists hold gimme economics as the sun in their political universe.

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2014, 11:14:10 PM »
Mitch Mcconnell and Grimes are so similar, I'm thinking of sitting this one out.  Better to not vote evil at all than the lesser of the two.

It's still important to put the seat in the R column, even if you don't see enough difference to matter between them, it's the only way to break Reid's choke-hold on the Senate and take away Obama's 'Deadlocked Congress' excuse.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2014, 11:36:44 PM »
It's still important to put the seat in the R column, even if you don't see enough difference to matter between them, it's the only way to break Reid's choke-hold on the Senate and take away Obama's 'Deadlocked Congress' excuse.
I feel the same way about Lamar Alexander.  His old crusty moderate bullshit infuriates me, but neglecting to put another check in the (R) column just gives Harry Reid another chance to be the worthless shitbrick Speaker he's been since Obama was elected.
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2014, 03:12:55 AM »
I have suspected that some Paulbots are leftists.

They have more in common with the DUmmies than they do Conservatives.

There's a reason they are referred to as Liberaltarians.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2014, 03:14:31 AM »
It's still important to put the seat in the R column, even if you don't see enough difference to matter between them, it's the only way to break Reid's choke-hold on the Senate and take away Obama's 'Deadlocked Congress' excuse.

I've made the case for awhile that's the ONLY reason Ron Paul got re-elected so many times in his district.
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2014, 05:12:50 AM »
It's still important to put the seat in the R column, even if you don't see enough difference to matter between them, it's the only way to break Reid's choke-hold on the Senate and take away Obama's 'Deadlocked Congress' excuse.

Exactly.  You do know that the majority of the judgeships on the various Federal Circuit Courts are now held by Democrat-appointed judges, right?  That will make very sure that the SCOTUS is busy for a long time.  More Rs in the Senate means that this will stop.
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2014, 09:13:49 AM »
Not enough to convince there.  Mitch voted for the bailouts, and he's simply been there far too long.  We complain about term limits but we still somehow send the same old dinosaurs right back in. That might be okay for the primitives, but I hold the right to a much higher standard.

have a look at how beneficial he really is to conservative ideals:

http://www.freedomworks.org/content/top-ten-bad-votes-senator-mitch-mcconnell
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2014, 09:18:01 AM »
It's still important to put the seat in the R column, even if you don't see enough difference to matter between them, it's the only way to break Reid's choke-hold on the Senate and take away Obama's 'Deadlocked Congress' excuse.
I did, Lindsay Graham....I'd rather have voted for a Zell Miller type democrat but they didn't run one.
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2014, 09:46:11 AM »
It's still important to put the seat in the R column, even if you don't see enough difference to matter between them, it's the only way to break Reid's choke-hold on the Senate and take away Obama's 'Deadlocked Congress' excuse.

True, if there's a viable option available. However, here in California, that has not existed for a very, very long time.. That's why I don't bother with voting anymore. Way too many stupid people here that nullify my vote, making it a waste of my time to even bother to try.
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2014, 10:59:49 AM »
Not enough to convince there.  Mitch voted for the bailouts, and he's simply been there far too long.  We complain about term limits but we still somehow send the same old dinosaurs right back in. That might be okay for the primitives, but I hold the right to a much higher standard.

have a look at how beneficial he really is to conservative ideals:

http://www.freedomworks.org/content/top-ten-bad-votes-senator-mitch-mcconnell

Y'know, that's what the primaries are for.  If you want to pick up your toys and go home when your ideal guy loses in the primaries, and boycott the general election, you're going to be doomed to a life of political frustration and largely having a Congressional delegation from the other party.  Apparently not enough of your fellow Kentuckians agreed with you to turn McConnell out.
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2014, 12:37:55 PM »
True, if there's a viable option available. However, here in California, that has not existed for a very, very long time.. That's why I don't bother with voting anymore. Way too many stupid people here that nullify my vote, making it a waste of my time to even bother to try.
Wow.
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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2014, 01:00:34 PM »
Y'know, that's what the primaries are for.  If you want to pick up your toys and go home when your ideal guy loses in the primaries, and boycott the general election, you're going to be doomed to a life of political frustration and largely having a Congressional delegation from the other party.  Apparently not enough of your fellow Kentuckians agreed with you to turn McConnell out.

Unfortunately not enough people actually read up on the issues and blindly pull the lever for either blue or red.  I'm just tired of being expected to vote for somebody like that when he clearly has his own interests ahead of my state's.  you didn't read the link, did you?
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2014, 05:25:52 PM »
Not enough to convince there.  Mitch voted for the bailouts, and he's simply been there far too long.  We complain about term limits but we still somehow send the same old dinosaurs right back in. That might be okay for the primitives, but I hold the right to a much higher standard.

have a look at how beneficial he really is to conservative ideals:

http://www.freedomworks.org/content/top-ten-bad-votes-senator-mitch-mcconnell

Seriously? Boggles my mind when a "conservative" plays games one would expect from a DUmmie. While Romney wasn't my ideal candidate, I still voted for him. All those Republicans who sat home to "punish" the Republicans, how'd that work out? The damage the boy king has done in this term is demoralizing this country and killing the Constitution and we have no one to fight back for us. Even if the R senate isn't as conservtive as you'd like it to be, they won't be as willing to abrogate their power as the Democrats are. Those who sat home during the last presidential election are just as responsible for the state of the country now as those who voted for 0bama.

The fact is, we are responsible for putting up candidates in our district/states that can win over the RINO. It's not even a question of money. Look at the Eric Cantor loss. We win when we have a candidate willing to stand up and proudly state his/her conservative views and governing policies. When the opponents don't have a clear, strong message or the guts to stand up and shout it with a positive attitude, then the RINO incumbent will always win because they're at least familiar.

Look what we did to ourselves in the last presidential primary! We had several candidates who would've been better than 0bama or Romney and we allowed ourselves to be influenced by what ever shiny object the media threw at us. Meanwhile, the RNC/RINO/Romney bunch just waited it out. They know their base well enough to know we'll eat our own until there's only a couple of choices. Newt wouldn't have been anyone's choice for a conservative candidate, but he was what we were left with and he had no money left. We go into the voting booth, we choose primary candidates. Your guy didn't win? Well, you can either work harder next time, find a better candidate or at the very least vote for the person other members of your state/district decided was the right person knowing you'll at least help to tip the scales.

Another thing to consider: when the R's are in charge, even if they're RINO's, we have a lot more influence over them when they're in charge. How many times were we able to stop those bogus "immigration reform" bills from passing the house? There were a number of issues where we had influence, despite the lack of Ted Cruz's. How much influence did we have over a Democrat controlled senate? So thanks for not thinking things through. If it makes you feel better, take your toys and go home. Or you can deal with what you've got and the opportunities it provides.

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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2014, 06:27:10 PM »
Seriously? Boggles my mind when a "conservative" plays games one would expect from a DUmmie. While Romney wasn't my ideal candidate, I still voted for him. All those Republicans who sat home to "punish" the Republicans, how'd that work out? The damage the boy king has done in this term is demoralizing this country and killing the Constitution and we have no one to fight back for us. Even if the R senate isn't as conservtive as you'd like it to be, they won't be as willing to abrogate their power as the Democrats are. Those who sat home during the last presidential election are just as responsible for the state of the country now as those who voted for 0bama.

The fact is, we are responsible for putting up candidates in our district/states that can win over the RINO. It's not even a question of money. Look at the Eric Cantor loss. We win when we have a candidate willing to stand up and proudly state his/her conservative views and governing policies. When the opponents don't have a clear, strong message or the guts to stand up and shout it with a positive attitude, then the RINO incumbent will always win because they're at least familiar.

Look what we did to ourselves in the last presidential primary! We had several candidates who would've been better than 0bama or Romney and we allowed ourselves to be influenced by what ever shiny object the media threw at us. Meanwhile, the RNC/RINO/Romney bunch just waited it out. They know their base well enough to know we'll eat our own until there's only a couple of choices. Newt wouldn't have been anyone's choice for a conservative candidate, but he was what we were left with and he had no money left. We go into the voting booth, we choose primary candidates. Your guy didn't win? Well, you can either work harder next time, find a better candidate or at the very least vote for the person other members of your state/district decided was the right person knowing you'll at least help to tip the scales.

Another thing to consider: when the R's are in charge, even if they're RINO's, we have a lot more influence over them when they're in charge. How many times were we able to stop those bogus "immigration reform" bills from passing the house? There were a number of issues where we had influence, despite the lack of Ted Cruz's. How much influence did we have over a Democrat controlled senate? So thanks for not thinking things through. If it makes you feel better, take your toys and go home. Or you can deal with what you've got and the opportunities it provides.

Cindie

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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2014, 07:25:55 PM »
Wow.
Sun Tzu's got nothing on you when it comes to formulating a winning strategy, does he?
That almost sounds the the same strategy I've seen espoused at the DUmp vis a vis getting a job.

It's not up to me to form a winning strategy. That's the job of the non existant opposition party here in California. They are the ones who have failed the people. Believe me I have tried my best to vote out Dems in this state but the GOP has failed to provide and support a viable candidate to do the job. It's not worth my time and effort right now to vote in an  election that's going to be won by the democrat anyway. Will my position change? Maybe, but who knows.
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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2014, 07:48:51 PM »
Seriously? Boggles my mind when a "conservative" plays games one would expect from a DUmmie. While Romney wasn't my ideal candidate, I still voted for him. All those Republicans who sat home to "punish" the Republicans, how'd that work out? The damage the boy king has done in this term is demoralizing this country and killing the Constitution and we have no one to fight back for us. Even if the R senate isn't as conservtive as you'd like it to be, they won't be as willing to abrogate their power as the Democrats are. Those who sat home during the last presidential election are just as responsible for the state of the country now as those who voted for 0bama.

The fact is, we are responsible for putting up candidates in our district/states that can win over the RINO. It's not even a question of money. Look at the Eric Cantor loss. We win when we have a candidate willing to stand up and proudly state his/her conservative views and governing policies. When the opponents don't have a clear, strong message or the guts to stand up and shout it with a positive attitude, then the RINO incumbent will always win because they're at least familiar.

Look what we did to ourselves in the last presidential primary! We had several candidates who would've been better than 0bama or Romney and we allowed ourselves to be influenced by what ever shiny object the media threw at us. Meanwhile, the RNC/RINO/Romney bunch just waited it out. They know their base well enough to know we'll eat our own until there's only a couple of choices. Newt wouldn't have been anyone's choice for a conservative candidate, but he was what we were left with and he had no money left. We go into the voting booth, we choose primary candidates. Your guy didn't win? Well, you can either work harder next time, find a better candidate or at the very least vote for the person other members of your state/district decided was the right person knowing you'll at least help to tip the scales.

Another thing to consider: when the R's are in charge, even if they're RINO's, we have a lot more influence over them when they're in charge. How many times were we able to stop those bogus "immigration reform" bills from passing the house? There were a number of issues where we had influence, despite the lack of Ted Cruz's. How much influence did we have over a Democrat controlled senate? So thanks for not thinking things through. If it makes you feel better, take your toys and go home. Or you can deal with what you've got and the opportunities it provides.

Cindie

Now see, right there.  I voted for Gary Johnson. His ideals were much more in tune with what a true conservative should be.  He left his state with a surplus when he was done.  All MA got was Romneycare.  If it feels good to just blindly vote for the red guy just because we're told to, we're no better than the primitives.  Romney wasn't a good candidate, not even close.  He was about as vanilla of a candidate as you could possibly imagine, shiny hair included.  What should have happened was for him to concede to Johnson who had a much better conservative history to back him up.  If we keep voting for squishy bland candidates like Romney and McCain, that's exactly what we'll keep getting. The only difference between that type of candidate and Obama is that Obama is headed in the same direction as them, only faster. 
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2014, 12:16:58 AM »
Now see, right there.  I voted for Gary Johnson. His ideals were much more in tune with what a true conservative should be.  He left his state with a surplus when he was done.  All MA got was Romneycare.  If it feels good to just blindly vote for the red guy just because we're told to, we're no better than the primitives.  Romney wasn't a good candidate, not even close.  He was about as vanilla of a candidate as you could possibly imagine, shiny hair included.  What should have happened was for him to concede to Johnson who had a much better conservative history to back him up.  If we keep voting for squishy bland candidates like Romney and McCain, that's exactly what we'll keep getting. The only difference between that type of candidate and Obama is that Obama is headed in the same direction as them, only faster.

If you read my post, you'd realize I wasn't voting blindly for anyone. I completely understand who Romney is. I like Gary Johnson too but the fact is, we have only 2 parties with any hope of winning. You don't have to like it but that's the way it is. How many times have 3rd parties gummed up the works for either party? What needs to happen (and Gary Johnson could be part of this) is to change the party from within. The looney left did this quite effectively. It didn't take that long, either. It's the one lesson we really need to learn from them. We almost learned it in 2010. Then we went backwards. Up one, back two...it's like we're playing "Mother May I". The solution lies with us, the base. We could've changed the direction of the country. We had a diverse, conservative pool of candidates to choose from in 2012. But we have too many purists...he/she doesn't think exactly like I do on every single issue, no way I'm going to accept that 95% is better than 80% and 50% is better than -200% (which is what we have now).

Oh, no, can't have this guy, somone wrote on a rock and he's an idiot, nevermind he's running one of the largest states in the union, it's doing well economically and he's fearless when standing up for his citizens.

This guy over here...okay, so he's run an entire freaking world wide corporation but he doesn't have any government experience. Everyone knows there's absolutely no politics in business. So what if he knows how to find the best people to delegate work to. And despite having the endorsement and faith of Dr. Alveda King, we're just going to allow the liberal media to turn him into some Mandingo and declare him unable to win.

Her? She's looney toons. The press calls her crazy and lazy so that's that! Of course she'd be better than 0bama. Of course she's a rock-ribbed conservative. Oh, she said a couple things in a way that made the press criticize & mock her. At least she knows we don't have 57 states. She's unelectable because we, the republican base, just assume if the press knocks someone they have to be kicked to the curb. Sheesh, it's not like we're democrats and will stand behind our candidates.

Him? Too damned socially conservative. And mild. And caring. And smart. And his kid is sick. What's gonna happen if he get's that 3am phone call and he's at the hospital with her? He might be compelled to sit with her and let a whole embassy burn or something. Everyone knows that's so much worse than being unavailable while your ambassador and a few Navy SEALs are killed. He might even have *gasp* prayed with his pastor after sending in every warmongering personnel in the area. That's so uncool compared to jetting off to party with Jay-Z and Beyonce. Another one bites the dust.

Getting towards cruch time and we've effectively allowed the liberal press and the RINOs to divide us and take out our most conservative candidates, any one of which could win with our support. The majority of the country is conservative, socially and/or financially. A positive message, love of country and common sense ideas wins the day every time...think Reagan. The RINO's thought he was as crazy as any candidate in the 2012 primary but he won the hearts and minds of the people.

Well at least we have the former speaker of the house. Maybe he's not as conservative as we'd like but he's smart & practical and has an encyclopedic knowledge of our history and the constitution. Many of us really rallied around him. Except, he doesn't have the kind of money the RINO chosen candidate does and they're starting their full court press. We're still in our little factions, still fighting with each other and being all butt hurt because everyone else in the freaking party didn't see the genius of "our" candidate. 

So, we have Romney. We were outsmarted by the RINOs who didn't have to spend a dime while we tore each other apart. But, Romney's a decent human being. He loves this country. He has a backbone when it comes to foreign policy. We certainly wouldn't be in the geopolitical mess we are now. He had such genuine compassion and righteous anger about Benghazi. Given that, do you honestly believe we'd have the chaos around the world we have now? Do you think Romney would've drawn a red line and walked away? Do you think his consequences after beheading American citizens would be as limp wristed as 0bama's? That he would've completely think he would've abandoned Israel and the Ukraine? Or continued to alienate our European allies while kissing the butt of anyone in wearing a towel on their head? Do you really think the economy wouldn't be any better? If he's anything, Romney's a numbers guy.

And, just like the Republican congress listens to their base more often than the democrat senate listens to us, we'd have a lot more influence over him than 0bama. He'd want to be reelected. And I'm pretty sure he has enough respect for the constitution that he wouldn't violate it with endless executive orders. If you don't see the differences between them, then perhaps you need better information. The canard about "well, he's going in the same direction just slower" is bogus. So many of 0bama's executive orders and extra constitutional rulings would NOT have happened under Romney. Reversing some of those will take a great deal of work. It's so much easier and quicker to tear down than rebuild. We wouldn't be slowing down, we'd be going in a completely different direction.

We need to stop throwing tantrums and work for what we want. Don't want RINOs...that's what primaries are for. Maybe it will take 2 or 3 or even 4 elections (took Reagan a few). In the meantime you don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Play the cards your dealt may be a cliche, but it's better than taking your toys and going home. Staying home or voting for a 3rd party is no different than giving the democrats another vote. Honestly, I'm more libertarian than conservative on many issues but just preventing the left from getting total control of the judicial system, as they've done with pop culture, education and the press, is worth not wasting my vote. Anyway, if you can find a way to justify your lack of concern for the country more power to you. I just can't. I have children and grandchildren and I don't every want to have to tell them, "Sorry, you guys are riddled with debt and won't be able to live the American dream that all parents want for their children. I sat out X,Y,Z election(s) to 'teach the party a lesson'! No one even noticed that I and a few million of my fellow conservatives sat it out until after the election. The other guy was elected and the country went to shit! Hey, don't blame me, I voted in the primaries."

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Re: DUmmies Cheer On The Paulbots
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2014, 08:45:25 AM »
If you read my post, you'd realize I wasn't voting blindly for anyone. I completely understand who Romney is. I like Gary Johnson too but the fact is, we have only 2 parties with any hope of winning. You don't have to like it but that's the way it is. How many times have 3rd parties gummed up the works for either party? What needs to happen (and Gary Johnson could be part of this) is to change the party from within. The looney left did this quite effectively. It didn't take that long, either. It's the one lesson we really need to learn from them. We almost learned it in 2010. Then we went backwards. Up one, back two...it's like we're playing "Mother May I". The solution lies with us, the base. We could've changed the direction of the country. We had a diverse, conservative pool of candidates to choose from in 2012. But we have too many purists...he/she doesn't think exactly like I do on every single issue, no way I'm going to accept that 95% is better than 80% and 50% is better than -200% (which is what we have now).

Oh, no, can't have this guy, somone wrote on a rock and he's an idiot, nevermind he's running one of the largest states in the union, it's doing well economically and he's fearless when standing up for his citizens.

This guy over here...okay, so he's run an entire freaking world wide corporation but he doesn't have any government experience. Everyone knows there's absolutely no politics in business. So what if he knows how to find the best people to delegate work to. And despite having the endorsement and faith of Dr. Alveda King, we're just going to allow the liberal media to turn him into some Mandingo and declare him unable to win.

Her? She's looney toons. The press calls her crazy and lazy so that's that! Of course she'd be better than 0bama. Of course she's a rock-ribbed conservative. Oh, she said a couple things in a way that made the press criticize & mock her. At least she knows we don't have 57 states. She's unelectable because we, the republican base, just assume if the press knocks someone they have to be kicked to the curb. Sheesh, it's not like we're democrats and will stand behind our candidates.

Him? Too damned socially conservative. And mild. And caring. And smart. And his kid is sick. What's gonna happen if he get's that 3am phone call and he's at the hospital with her? He might be compelled to sit with her and let a whole embassy burn or something. Everyone knows that's so much worse than being unavailable while your ambassador and a few Navy SEALs are killed. He might even have *gasp* prayed with his pastor after sending in every warmongering personnel in the area. That's so uncool compared to jetting off to party with Jay-Z and Beyonce. Another one bites the dust.

Getting towards cruch time and we've effectively allowed the liberal press and the RINOs to divide us and take out our most conservative candidates, any one of which could win with our support. The majority of the country is conservative, socially and/or financially. A positive message, love of country and common sense ideas wins the day every time...think Reagan. The RINO's thought he was as crazy as any candidate in the 2012 primary but he won the hearts and minds of the people.

Well at least we have the former speaker of the house. Maybe he's not as conservative as we'd like but he's smart & practical and has an encyclopedic knowledge of our history and the constitution. Many of us really rallied around him. Except, he doesn't have the kind of money the RINO chosen candidate does and they're starting their full court press. We're still in our little factions, still fighting with each other and being all butt hurt because everyone else in the freaking party didn't see the genius of "our" candidate. 

So, we have Romney. We were outsmarted by the RINOs who didn't have to spend a dime while we tore each other apart. But, Romney's a decent human being. He loves this country. He has a backbone when it comes to foreign policy. We certainly wouldn't be in the geopolitical mess we are now. He had such genuine compassion and righteous anger about Benghazi. Given that, do you honestly believe we'd have the chaos around the world we have now? Do you think Romney would've drawn a red line and walked away? Do you think his consequences after beheading American citizens would be as limp wristed as 0bama's? That he would've completely think he would've abandoned Israel and the Ukraine? Or continued to alienate our European allies while kissing the butt of anyone in wearing a towel on their head? Do you really think the economy wouldn't be any better? If he's anything, Romney's a numbers guy.

And, just like the Republican congress listens to their base more often than the democrat senate listens to us, we'd have a lot more influence over him than 0bama. He'd want to be reelected. And I'm pretty sure he has enough respect for the constitution that he wouldn't violate it with endless executive orders. If you don't see the differences between them, then perhaps you need better information. The canard about "well, he's going in the same direction just slower" is bogus. So many of 0bama's executive orders and extra constitutional rulings would NOT have happened under Romney. Reversing some of those will take a great deal of work. It's so much easier and quicker to tear down than rebuild. We wouldn't be slowing down, we'd be going in a completely different direction.

We need to stop throwing tantrums and work for what we want. Don't want RINOs...that's what primaries are for. Maybe it will take 2 or 3 or even 4 elections (took Reagan a few). In the meantime you don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Play the cards your dealt may be a cliche, but it's better than taking your toys and going home. Staying home or voting for a 3rd party is no different than giving the democrats another vote. Honestly, I'm more libertarian than conservative on many issues but just preventing the left from getting total control of the judicial system, as they've done with pop culture, education and the press, is worth not wasting my vote. Anyway, if you can find a way to justify your lack of concern for the country more power to you. I just can't. I have children and grandchildren and I don't every want to have to tell them, "Sorry, you guys are riddled with debt and won't be able to live the American dream that all parents want for their children. I sat out X,Y,Z election(s) to 'teach the party a lesson'! No one even noticed that I and a few million of my fellow conservatives sat it out until after the election. The other guy was elected and the country went to shit! Hey, don't blame me, I voted in the primaries."

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Any support for McConnell died with this quote:

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"I think we are going to crush them everywhere," McConnell said. "I don’t think they are going to have a single nominee anywhere in the country."


Divisive party politics indeed.  As I said before, he's no better than the primitive candidate and neither are worthy of my vote.  A non-vote isn't worthless and it's not supporting the left either.  If we're so far gone that this is the type of candidate we're left with, then there is probably no hope of getting back to sanity.  This clip explains it perfectly:

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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2014, 12:09:51 PM »
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His ideals were much more in tune with what a true conservative should be.

You're right...outside of his views on Global Warming...Abortion...Open Borders and illegal drugs...he's the spitting image of Ronald Reagan!

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Re: DUmmies Cheer On The Paulbots
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2014, 12:42:44 PM »
You're right...outside of his views on Global Warming...Abortion...Open Borders and illegal drugs...he's the spitting image of Ronald Reagan!

 :whatever:

Reagan had his liberal spells too. See late 80s amnesty, bailouts (Chrysler version 1), and tax hikes for examples. 

I personally don't give a crap about illegal drugs. If somebody is dumb enough to use them, they deserve the consequences. I don't drink and never have. That doesn't mean I want alcohol outlawed.

Johnson proposes free market solutions to GW, if it's not costing me anything, I don't care if he believes in it or not.
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I don't know how any of you can live with yourselves.

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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2014, 01:37:06 PM »
Reagan had his liberal spells too. See late 80s amnesty, bailouts (Chrysler version 1), and tax hikes for examples.

He was lied to on the Amnesty and the promised $2 in cuts to every $1 of tax increases by the Dems.  So that takes care of that typical Paulbot talking point. 

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I personally don't give a crap about illegal drugs. If somebody is dumb enough to use them, they deserve the consequences. I don't drink and never have. That doesn't mean I want alcohol outlawed.

Alcohol is legal...pot...with a couple exception in direct violation of Federal law...is not legal.  Big difference.  ANd the whole "who cares if they get high as long as it doesn't affect me" attitude is more Liberal tan Conservative.

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Johnson proposes free market solutions to GW, if it's not costing me anything, I don't care if he believes in it or not.

And that whole lazy attitude is why Liberaltarians will never be more than a shitstaiin on the political landscape.

Please...do tell all of us...how is a belief in man made global warming and open borders the likes of what we're seeing now...things that Johnson supports...Conservative in ANY way?
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