Cryano whines again

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025508282

Oh my.

Cyrano (8,414 posts)    Tue Sep 9, 2014, 09:20 AM

Both Clintons seem to like war criminals

I'm not sure what the occasions were, but I've recently seen Hillary hanging out with war criminal Henry Kissinger, and Bill sharing a stage and whooping it up with war criminal Bush Jr.
 
WTF? Is it all right to hang out around war criminals after enough time has passed? Or do the Clintons just believe that Kissinger and Bush Jr. are swell guys?
 
On edit: Bill was helping launch a Presidential Leadership Scholarship program. He was yukking it up with Bush Jr. who was seated beside him. Hillary was reviewing Kissinger's new book and seemed more than happy to shake his hand. Evidently she didn't notice the blood on it.

MohRokTah (3,911 posts)    Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:19 AM

5. What war crimes were either Clinton convicted of?

Your bullshit hyperbolic rhetoric is showing.

Cyrano (8,414 posts)    Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:30 AM

6. I'm calling Kissinger and Bush Jr. war criminals.

The op states that the Clintons like hanging out with war criminals.

Try reading the op again.

MohRokTah (3,911 posts)    Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:35 AM

7. More hyperbolic bullshit rhetoric.

Neither are war criminals. Government officials carrying out policies you disagree with are not "war criminals"
 
War criminals are people who are convicted of war crimes. Neither Kissinger nor Bush have been.
 
So, stop the bullshit hyperbole or at least put an "alleged" in front of your "war criminals" charge.
 
Kissinger was brilliant in negotiations with both China and the Soviet Union. He sucked when it came to Chile. Chile does not make him a war criminal and he would never be convicted of such in any court on the face of this planet.
 
Bush at least did some good regarding AIDS in Africa.

LBJ gave us The Great Society and the Vietnam War.

FDR gave us the New Deal and Japanese Concentration Camps.

Name one high ranking government official who was perfect.

The bullshit hyperbolic rhetoric is what's wrong with American politics.

Dreamer Tatum (8,722 posts)    Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:36 AM

8. Looks like your subscription to DU Vogue expired in 2001.

MohRokTah (3,911 posts)    Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:38 AM

9. 

Dreamer Tatum (8,722 posts)    Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:40 AM

10. Trust me, I'm on my 5th set of orbitals already

whenever I see "war criminal," I just substitute "person I don't like." Makes it all make far more sense.

el_bryanto (8,364 posts)    Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:45 AM

13. It is odd to see someone defending Kissinger on a Democratic Website

What about Cambodia?

MohRokTah (3,911 posts)    Tue Sep 9, 2014, 11:09 AM

17. Not a war crime.

Cyrano (8,414 posts)    Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:47 AM

14. Since you misread my op, I guess

you're not too good at noticing that not all war criminals are brought to trial.

MohRokTah (3,911 posts)    Tue Sep 9, 2014, 11:09 AM

16. I'm better at noticing calling people you disagree with "war criminals" is standard...

hyperbolic bullshit rhetoric.

[FlaGator]

Cyrano (8,414 posts)    Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:47 AM

14. Since you misread my op, I guess

you're not too good at noticing that not all war criminals are brought to trial.

Cyrano has some serious issues with understanding American due process. One is not a criminal unless one is convicted of a crime. There are cases like Hitler where common consensus declares him to be a criminal  but there is no common consensus in regards to Bush or Kissinger being criminals of any type. As it was pointed out by MohRokTah, using Cyrano logic just about every U.S. President as been a war criminal including George Washington, James Madison, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses Grant and Woodrow Wilson.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Cyrano has some serious issues with understanding American due process. One is not a criminal unless one is convicted of a crime. There are cases like Hitler where common consensus declares him to be a criminal  but there is no common consensus in regards to Bush or Kissinger being criminals of any type. As it was pointed out by MohRokTah, using Cyrano logic just about every U.S. President as been a war criminal including George Washington, James Madison, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses Grant and Woodrow Wilson.

In the larger sense, you're right.  But in a purely technical sense, American due process really doesn't apply to a 'War crime.'  Anyone prosecuted for war crimes as such would be tried in an international tribunal such as the ICJ, the Nuremburg Tribunal, or the like.  Regular American civilian or military courts would be trying someone for the plain old crime - the criminal conduct involved in their war crimes, assuming it met some jurisdictional requirements like either the perp or the victim being Americans.

[miskie]

MRT is trying to tamp down all of the war criminal talk ahead of Obama reentering the battlefield officially tomorrow. - Even though I'm certain there will be lots of caveats in that speech, many of the primitives know whats coming.

[BlueStateSaint]

MRT is trying to tamp down all of the war criminal talk ahead of Obama reentering the battlefield officially tomorrow. - Even though I'm certain there will be lots of caveats in that speech, many of the primitives know whats coming.

You're onto something here.

[ColonelCarrots]

I think someone was trying to find a cheap way to get praise.

[Ptarmigan]

What a crybaby!



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