Stare Rape: Merely looking at nekid pictures is a crime!

[Mr Mannn]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5472905
This is about the leaked Celeb photos> Just looking at one is abusive and needs to be punished like stalking/abuse/rape.

If you are hetero, you will somehow be found guilty of rape. All hail the Klu Klux Klams!

Star Member alp227 (27,223 posts)

If you click on Jennifer Lawrence's naked pictures, you're perpetuating her abuse.
Excellent, EXCELLENT Guardian "Comment Is Free" article condemning the leaks of the female celebrities' photos:

It’s not merely tawdry that the private sexual conversations of partners are now being disseminated like memes. Sharing these images is not the same as making a joke including characters such as Doge, Grumpy Cat and Sad Keanu. It’s an act of sexual violation, and it deserves the same social and legal punishment as meted out to stalkers and other sexual predators.

Violation it is, too, because whatever the medium of communication between lovers (whether it’s a telephone call, a text message or the sexual act itself), the conversation is private and to intrude upon it is sexual involvement that has occurred without consent, and it has the same resultant harms. That a mobile phone used to facilitate a lovers’ conversation can also be used as a means of mass communication is irrelevant, because mass communication was in no way agreed to by the lovers, who had every right to believe their security would not be compromised. Actors and other entertainers may certainly offer their image to public consumption as their professional practice, but what they are not trading is their intimacy.

Because of the simple moral issue: People have the right to control their own sexuality, and others need CONSENT to access it.

And here's a hard truth: the adults in those photos didn't consent to public consumption of the photos. Neither do the millions of abused children worldwide who are victims of the child pornography trade. So guess what? By viewing those photos, you sink to the level of the worst of the worst in the world. You contribute to a culture of sexual abuse. You contribute to a culture that values instant sexual satisfaction over respect for other human beings' privacy. I don't care if this hurts your feelings, because a hard truth is always, always better than a convenient lie.

</rant off>

So according to the OP, if Anthony Weiner uploads Mr Winky to twitter and accidentally hits, "Send ALL." Its not his fault. Normal people know: Do NOT post your privates on Public media--Its only a matter of time before Winky goes public.

And now DU calls for prosecution of people who sneak a peek. Stare rape.

A few posts lament you can't do anything about it. Here is one solution"

joshcryer (48,357 posts)
7. Implement SOPA.

Any site with infringing content is taken offline.

Oh we wouldn't want that, would we?

appal_jack (2,225 posts) Applejack is a My Little Pony character
67. Nonsense article. NONSENSE authoritarian 'solution.'

joshcryer, have you really thought-through your suggestion to impose draconian authoritarianism over the entire internet in order to protect a few celeb pics? How is this the least bit progressive?

Let me help you with the answer:SOPA is NOT progressive, at all. And implementing it because images of a few extra square inches of a few very wealthy celebrities are now visible online would be utterly nonsensical.

The voice of reason. Lousy Freeper troll!

marshall (6,467 posts)
52. I avoid having nude photos taken of myself
So far it seems to have worked, and if anyone hacks my photos they will get nothing.

Zappaman.

Star Member zappaman (12,512 posts)
3. Do you have a link?

For research purposes only.

Star Member pnwmom (54,802 posts)
12. You think this is funny?

Jester Messiah (2,075 posts)
13. I thought it was hilarious.

Get the stick out

Star Member chervilant (5,865 posts)
27. "Get the stick out"!?!

I feel sorry for people whose ability to empathize is so stunted they think it's avant-garde to make comedy fodder out of victimization.

phil89 (351 posts)
89. Some of us have other things to worry about than a multi multi millionaire

celebrity having nude pics hacked. It's seriously not the end of the world. She'll be just fine.

Now he did it..Its "the lecture" for him.

Star Member chervilant (5,865 posts)
98. Belittling my post (and Jennifer Lawrence)

because you think "other things to worry about" relegates Ms. Lawrence's issue to relative oblivion is rather off-putting. I would prefer that you not respond to any of my posts in this manner, as it adds nothing to the discussion.

The issues commiserate with the hacking of nude pictures of celebrities include sexism, rape culture, and the patriarchal social system that perpetuates and sustains misogyny -- the bigotry that relegates half of our species to "less-than" status. I (and countless other feminists) consider this of utmost importance.

(BTW, "some of us" suggests that you feel you speak for other people. I doubt this is true...)

Star Member TreasonousBastard (23,747 posts)
134. I would be interested in what Jennifer Lawrence has to say about it...

but not so much in the thoughts of overwrought political activists using buzzwords.

Kalidurga (5,101 posts)
66. The Cave called

they want their sexism back.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN (3,390 posts)
41. 0-7 now.

results:

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

No sense of humor.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Sep 1, 2014, 08:31 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This kind of shit truly is getting ridiculous.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: no sense of humor is no reason to push the alert button.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Meh.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No sense of humour is not a hideable offense. Stupid alert.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is total abuse of the alert system. Frankly this should count against the alerter as much as a removed post does against a poster.


I agree with 7, obviously abusing the alert system should lose you alerting privileges, at least for some timeframe, at the least.

Star Member theHandpuppet (18,371 posts)
30. Not funny, zappaman

At a time when women on DU are distressed from being stalked and threatened, you make this glib comment? Perhaps you should change your avatar because I suspect she wouldn't find anything funny about it, either.

Star Member Logical (13,645 posts)
127. You support arresting someone who "views" photos? Sharing them I understand, but there.....

is no law against viewing them.

Star Member tammywammy (19,948 posts)
94. Jury results:

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

On Mon Sep 1, 2014, 11:34 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Do you have a link?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5472640

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

No, and this comment is egregiously tasteless and insensitive, given the facts in op about how the pictures went public. Furthermore, posting porn links is against terms of service anyway.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Sep 1, 2014, 11:42 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: A silly, if tasteless, little joke.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Thicker skin, people. Thicker skin.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Poster may be trying to be funny, but this is incredibly insensitive.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Um! I think the alert is over the top.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Methinks the days of the shrieking banshees ruling the roost may be fading away.

[miskie]

I bet every single one of these people demanding punishment for viewing someone else's stolen I.P. have at least one item installed on their computer that they didn't pay for.

But because there are a bunch of photos of ladies private parts, suddenly DU has become a puritanical authority.

You know what, DU ? I bet for every stolen song, video or piece of software on each of your computers, there is at least one woman who was injured financially as a result - so enough with the high and mighty act because JLaw was one of the 'victims'.

[Mr Mannn]

I think the real lesson here is, don't take nude selfies of yourself with a PHONE CAMERA and expect it to be private.

Further don't post nude selfies on social media and expect them to be private.
and again, don't send nude selfies to your friends and expect them to be private.

[Chris_]

Don't upload them to "the cloud" (ie. iPhone's servers).

[Ptarmigan]

How is this rape? Explain?  They trivialze actual rape victims.

[I_B_Perky]

    Star Member zappaman (12,512 posts)
    3. Do you have a link?

    For research purposes only.

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    Star Member pnwmom (54,802 posts)
    12. You think this is funny?

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    Jester Messiah (2,075 posts)
    13. I thought it was hilarious.

    Get the stick out

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    Star Member chervilant (5,865 posts)
    27. "Get the stick out"!?!

    I feel sorry for people whose ability to empathize is so stunted they think it's avant-garde to make comedy fodder out of victimization.

 


Excellent find, Mr. Mann!!!

[franksolich]

I think the real lesson here is, don't take nude selfies of yourself with a PHONE CAMERA and expect it to be private.

Further don't post nude selfies on social media and expect them to be private.
and again, don't send nude selfies to your friends and expect them to be private.

Actually, the very best idea is, unless one's a professional model and such a picture's suitable for some--whatever--purpose, just plain and simple don't take embarassing pictures of oneself.

[Ralph Wiggum]

How is this rape? Explain?  They trivialze actual rape victims.

Excellent point, Ptarmy.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I don't recall seeing the 'chervilant' witch prior to the recent Klam attacks on everyone else, is she redqueen's sock or something?

[Undies]

These Hollywood Harlots don't care about those photos.  Have the little DU goons ever heard that even bad publicity is good publicity?  I will even go so far as to make a guess that each of these "stars" have played a nude scene and a still of it can be accessed via google images.

[Delmar]

It was a leftist, celebrity obsessed hacker that stole the pictures and it was leftist, celebrity jock-sniffers that clicked on the pictures.

[Wineslob]

So, DUmmie Wymns, how do you feel about SlutWalk?

[JohnnyReb]

Lets see here, 10 years for each picture looked at....with good behavior.....I should get out about star date 8414.

[landofconfusion80]

Lets see here, 10 years for each picture looked at....with good behavior.....I should get out about star date 8414.

Do you get to keep them as pinups in your cell or how does that work?

[JohnnyReb]

Do you get to keep them as pinups in your cell or how does that work?

I imagine that pinups would be best....pages in magazines get stuck together.

[98ZJUSMC]

I don't care if this hurts your feelings, because a hard truth is always, always better than a convenient lie.

Economy.

gOrEbAlBuLlSHIT.

Welfare spending.

You were saying?

Star Member chervilant (5,865 posts)
98. Belittling my post (and Jennifer Lawrence)

Yes.

Star Member theHandpuppet (18,371 posts)
30. Not funny, zappaman
At a time when women on DU are distressed from being stalked and threatened, you make this glib comment? Perhaps you should change your avatar because I suspect she wouldn't find anything funny about it, either.

Get over yourself.  Seriously.

alidurga (5,101 posts)
66. The Cave called

they want their sexism back.

Why don't you post your evidence, lurker?  By the way, since you're here,  Eat a bag of dicks.   

[ChuckJ]

Actually, the very best idea is, unless one's a professional model and such a picture's suitable for some--whatever--purpose, just plain and simple don't take embarassing pictures of oneself.

That's just plain common sense.  What use is that to a DUmmie?

[BadCat]

I've looked at them, I'll look at the new ones when they're posted.  These chicks are babes, and ANY hetero, red blooded American male should appreciate them.

Kate Upton may piss off the Klams, she has a picture of a dick, and one of her with splooge on her back, she obviously likes guys.

[Mr Mannn]

I've looked at them, I'll look at the new ones when they're posted.  These chicks are babes, and ANY hetero, red blooded American male should appreciate them.

Kate Upton may piss off the Klams, she has a picture of a dick, and one of her with splooge on her back, she obviously likes guys.

You just broke many lesbian hearts just now. I hope your proud of yourself, mister.

[Airwolf]

Like Frank and others have pointed out,DON'T put pictures of yourself naked on your phone or on your PC/Mac if you don't want anyone but your SO to see them. This has been going on since the first hackers  started to  invade others PC's. Sorry but you have no right to cry foul if your not going to do what's needed to keep those pics from getting out into the wild.

[miskie]

Like Frank and others have pointed out,DON'T put pictures of yourself naked on your phone or on your PC/Mac if you don't want anyone but your SO to see them. This has been going on since the first hackers  started to  invade others PC's. Sorry but you have no right to cry foul if your not going to do what's needed to keep those pics from getting out into the wild.

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