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Ask Dick Turbin why his state has 80 cents a gallon tax on gas but beleives that the people that bring the gasoline to the consumer making 8 cents/gallon are robber barons?

Ask why the state of California will make $5.3 billion on gas this year and only made $2.4 billion in 2007?

Price of oil in January 2007 $43/bbl now it is over $140/bbl.  What party was in control of congress during those 18 months?

The government, the democrat controlled government, is stabilizing the price.  The liberals just want that stable price at $8/gallon.

Point number 256,387,951 why they are called DUmmies.

i think they believe that the public doesnt know who is who... the media keeps constantly calling it "Republican" as in the OP article. yet, most people know who Pelosi and Reid are. they know Bush hasnt gotten the Congress to do one damn thing (thank God) that was good for the country - not that he hasnt tried. but the Dem Congress has basically blocked all the good stuff, and thrown temper tantrums when the hippie museum doesnt get made in upstate NY...

Trust me, Lauri, this is one resident of Upstate NY that's very glad that that museum wasn't built.
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um, so... let me just interject this for the DUmmies..

our govt is LOSING money since gas prices went up. people stopped driving as much and the govts revenue maker (gasoline) went down.

so what are they doing? proposing toll charges all over the country. people cannot escape paying tolls, even if they drive very littlle. i use the bridges over the water here quite a lot, so they know they have us.

they arent going to lose even more tax dollars by lowering gas - its not in their best interest.




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Obviously the OP doesn't remember this (probably too young or too many dead brain cells):



My dad owned a gas station back then -- I was the lucky guy who got check gas gauges and  put the "last car" sign on the last car.  Good thing I had a 90+ lb German Shepherd/Wolf mix as my personal bodyguard.  People would get truly pissed.


Oh yeah, I remember quite well. I was alotted 60% of what I had used the year before for my business. I had twice the equipment, twice the hired help and twice the work lined up to operate on almost half the fuel. ....but 10 cent a gallon over market price would get you all the fuel you wanted.

As a side note: Off road diesel fuel in oct. of 1973 was 15.9 cent a gallon. By the time Carter left office in jan. '81 it had been up to $1.39.9. The lowest I remember it being since then was around 45.9 in the late 80's.
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The price of gas is too high. Why doesn't the government stabilize the price for us?

Because that's not their job.

Really DUmmies...this is easy stuff here...why are you making it so darn hard?
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The only way to stabilize the price of gas under real-world global market conditions is to force an aggregate planet-wide decline in the use of it, which has some unfortunate second and third order effects such as global economic collapse.

i was hearing today that gas in india costs only 80 cents a liter.. and that had gone up. it used to be less.

why? cause their govt subsidized it to the populace and they want to stop doing that. China and another country want to stop subsidizing their populace as well and the real price of gas is being shown to all of them. does this have an impact on prices globally?

That's about 3.20 a gallon. Also, you have to take into account their cost of living over there. Everything is relative. The Venezuelans pay about 12 cents a gallon. Sounds great right? Well, not when you live on a dollar a day.

Great point, the other thing is that a subsidy does not make the gas cost less, it just shifts the "Who is paying for it" part around.  Our government could subsidized gas too, of course that would mean adding a national sales tax or kicking up the marginal income tax rates to pay for the subsidy...so everyone that pays taxes now would be paying even more for their own gas in the end.
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Ask Dick Turbin why his state has 80 cents a gallon tax on gas but beleives that the people that bring the gasoline to the consumer making 8 cents/gallon are robber barons?

Ask why the state of California will make $5.3 billion on gas this year and only made $2.4 billion in 2007?

Price of oil in January 2007 $43/bbl now it is over $140/bbl.  What party was in control of congress during those 18 months?

The government, the democrat controlled government, is stabilizing the price.  The liberals just want that stable price at $8/gallon.

Point number 256,387,951 why they are called DUmmies.

i think they believe that the public doesnt know who is who... the media keeps constantly calling it "Republican" as in the OP article. yet, most people know who Pelosi and Reid are. they know Bush hasnt gotten the Congress to do one damn thing (thank God) that was good for the country - not that he hasnt tried. but the Dem Congress has basically blocked all the good stuff, and thrown temper tantrums when the hippie museum doesnt get made in upstate NY...

Trust me, Lauri, this is one resident of Upstate NY that's very glad that that museum wasn't built.

the fact that it was even suggested, with a million dollar price tag (from the Hilary camp no less!) - astonishes most of us.

but we have issues in every state like this; we have infrastructure in need of being shored up - but our budgets get spent on Jesus Art in a glass full of pee... or metal art in downtown, or something equally stupid. we have a dam in our little town that is number one in the entire state for failure. instead of fixing that, apparently it was more important to spend 15 million on a condo for bums downtown to get them off the streets.

oh, and they had to have had SIX DUIs before they could land in the new digs..  :banghead:

and the dam sits waiting ... while we have record snowfall and heat... *sigh*




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The only way to stabilize the price of gas under real-world global market conditions is to force an aggregate planet-wide decline in the use of it, which has some unfortunate second and third order effects such as global economic collapse.

i was hearing today that gas in india costs only 80 cents a liter.. and that had gone up. it used to be less.

why? cause their govt subsidized it to the populace and they want to stop doing that. China and another country want to stop subsidizing their populace as well and the real price of gas is being shown to all of them. does this have an impact on prices globally?

That's about 3.20 a gallon. Also, you have to take into account their cost of living over there. Everything is relative. The Venezuelans pay about 12 cents a gallon. Sounds great right? Well, not when you live on a dollar a day.

Great point, the other thing is that a subsidy does not make the gas cost less, it just shifts the "Who is paying for it" part around.  Our government could subsidized gas too, of course that would mean adding a national sales tax or kicking up the marginal income tax rates to pay for the subsidy...so everyone that pays taxes now would be paying even more for their own gas in the end.

hey, maybe our idiots in Congress will try a gas subsidy next?  :whatever:

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hey, maybe our idiots in Congress will try a gas subsidy next?  :whatever:

Oh, surely they would never do anything so transparently self-serving and economically pointless?  :sarcasm:
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angrycarpenter  (1000+ posts)         Thu Jul-03-08 09:41 PM
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Does anyone here want the gov. to babysit them?
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The price of gas is too high. Why doesn't the government stabilize the price for us?
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hey, maybe our idiots in Congress will try a gas subsidy next?  :whatever:

Oh, surely they would never do anything so transparently self-serving and economically pointless?  :sarcasm:

ya know, once they put Jesus in a glass of pee and called it 'art' .. i figure all bets are off. they are selling this Global Warming scare (TNO anyone?) to a lot of chuckleheads who are buying it hook line and sinker.. im not sure there is a 'bottom' to their stupidity.


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Second, the gas companies could sell for whatever price they want, but we could get a rebate check for $1.00 or $2.00 for every gallon of gas we buy.



So gas is now $8.00 per gallon and we get $1.00 back per gallon?  Great.

By the way, who issues the rebate?  Who tracks the gallons used?  If I drive a Prius do I get $1.25? 
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