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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2014, 10:17:34 AM »
On top of the whole entitlement mentality, he was also six-four, as big as a fridge, eighteen, on dope, and used to pushing people around to get whatever he wanted...what are the chances that the idea of 'restraint' would even flicker across his tiny little Tyrannosaurus brain when the cop hailed him?

About the same chance that Eric Holder is going to Ferguson to calm things down. :popcorn:
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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2014, 01:01:17 PM »


While .40 S&W (which I believe was what the officer was using) has better terminal ballistics than 9mm, it does not have the kinetic energy, nor do the wound channels appear to indicate a rotational force was applied to this criminal.

Contrary to what hollywood will tell you, bullets don't cause you to spin and fall dead instantly.  God these people's ignorance of things outside of wymin's studies and how to be a professional victim is appalling. :banghead:

On the contrary there have been numerous cases where "dead me walking" have killed cops after having received fatal wounds, Miami shoot out comes to mind where the perp continued to fight for four more minutes killing two agents .

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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2014, 06:54:53 PM »
Energy = (.5)(Mass)( Velocity2), IIRC. A bullet weighing a couple of ounces is not going to move a 300 lb. stationary man (even less so that 300 lb. man running toward the gun). And a bullet does not transfer all of its energy on impact, but continues moving.

Hi5! All very true!  But try telling that to the 'reality based community' over at DU and all you will hear is this: :lalala: the ignorance is astounding. :banghead:
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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2014, 07:06:53 PM »
Hi5! All very true!  But try telling that to the 'reality based community' over at DU and all you will hear is this: :lalala: the ignorance is astounding. :banghead:
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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2014, 08:26:38 PM »
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A bullet weighing a couple of ounces is not going to move a 300 lb. stationary man (even less so that 300 lb. man running toward the gun).

A two-ounce bullet might move someone, but it would also be brutal to fire from a handgun.

A .40 S&W bullet is typically less than 0.3 ounce, and a 9mm much less.

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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2014, 09:54:09 PM »
I heard St. Michael's lawyer say the the young boy was wounded by a shot to the arm and helpless when the cop executed him as he tried to surrender...
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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2014, 03:57:57 AM »
On the contrary there have been numerous cases where "dead me walking" have killed cops after having received fatal wounds, Miami shoot out comes to mind where the perp continued to fight for four more minutes killing two agents .

Adrenaline is a miracle drug.

http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2011/05/5-gunfights-that-changed-law-enforcement.aspx

I agree, some of these criminals are on so many drugs it is ridiculous. There have been multiple cases where the autopsy was done and the coroner was astounded that the criminal did as much as they did with wounds that should have either killed them outright through instant incapacitation or within a minute by hydraulic decompression. Adrenaline, as you said, is a miracle drug. 
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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2014, 04:21:02 AM »
A two-ounce bullet might move someone, but it would also be brutal to fire from a handgun.

A .40 S&W bullet is typically less than 0.3 ounce, and a 9mm much less.

Very true. To put it into perspective for the DUmmies, a .40 S&W has a grain weight for our example of 165 grains. That is .3 of an ounce.

The .50 BMG has a projectile weight of 671 grains, or 1.5 ounces. There is no handgun your could fire that out of and survive not getting your arm broken. 
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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2014, 07:32:20 AM »
When all is peace full and out of no where something explodes on the scene, something so unexpected, people freeze as their brains adjust to what is happening.

This goes for the public and the Police.   Watching the still frames of President Regan being shot, for a few seconds his body guards were frozen , just a few seconds but in that time poor Brady went down and the presidents guard appeared to be in shock as they covered the president and rush him to the hospital.

Same as when Kennedy was shot and his wife was crawling out of the back of the car, seems no one had trained for that specific situation, or anticipated it.

 No one was there to protect HER.  What if, just if, the shooter was off a bit and meant to take HER out so Kennedy would become unable to run again ?

Was it the Bush girls under protection having dinner out had one of them have her purse stolen under the nose of their protectors ?

The police of any kind are just like anyone else, takes a few seconds to understand what is going on and it is they that must make a 2 second decision, right or wrong that can make the world of difference to everyone involved, family and friends.

I am going back and forth of this problem, as new evidence is brought forward, so far I side with the Cop that found himself in a difficult situation and tried to defend himself.

On the other hand I wonder what set off the Victim to the point he could not just step out of the street.  I do not care how big and strong a man is, when faced with authority holding a gun, why decide to fight them or run from them ??   






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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #59 on: August 20, 2014, 07:43:39 AM »
When all is peace full and out of no where something explodes on the scene, something so unexpected, people freeze as their brains adjust to what is happening.


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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #60 on: August 20, 2014, 08:36:34 AM »
A two-ounce bullet might move someone, but it would also be brutal to fire from a handgun.

A .40 S&W bullet is typically less than 0.3 ounce, and a 9mm much less.

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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #61 on: August 20, 2014, 08:40:43 AM »
On the contrary there have been numerous cases where "dead me walking" have killed cops after having received fatal wounds, Miami shoot out comes to mind where the perp continued to fight for four more minutes killing two agents .

Adrenaline is a miracle drug.

http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2011/05/5-gunfights-that-changed-law-enforcement.aspx

This, plus the fact that a pistol bullet lacks the kinetic energy to stop a human, is the answer to those who question how many times Officer Wilson shot Brown. My guess would be that Wilson kept shooting at Brown until his magazine was empty or Brown hit the pavement.
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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #62 on: August 20, 2014, 04:30:29 PM »
The headline I saw about that--I didn't click the link--said "Michael Brown's three children."

Yeah, just making reference to that fact is racist, don't you know.

My bleeding-heart liberal Mother is uncharacteristically outraged about this, triggered by watching the store surveillance video of the "poor victim" stealing cigars and shoving the store owner down. She says she viewed this on CNN. I have YET to see it. Does CNN just show video which might be unpopular, once, for the record, then send it down the worm hole forever?

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Re: Primitives Show off their Forensic Brilliance
« Reply #63 on: August 20, 2014, 06:53:04 PM »
Hi5! All very true!  But try telling that to the 'reality based community' over at DU and all you will hear is this: :lalala: the ignorance is astounding. :banghead:

With all of the paranoia over Kellogg's Frosted Mini Nukes , chicken wire, kerosene and cinder blocks, I fail to be surprised to learn that they lack a middle school level grasp of physics.



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