Once again, the facts-based community has issues with the facts:
kpete (43,376 posts)
Strong Arm Robbery, My A**...
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SAT AUG 16, 2014 AT 06:34 AM PDT
Strong Arm Robbery, My A**...
by FarWestGirl
Since when would snagging a single pack of cigs, (or cigarillos or cigars), and leaving without paying for them ever be considered anything other than shoplifting?
No weapons involved, no money taken. No one was forced to open the till. How has that been escalated into 'strong arm robbery'?
And why has no one questioned the framing of an 18 year old kid who may have shoplifted less than $10 as a 'robbery suspect'? Assuming the video is, indeed, of Mike Brown.
It would seem that hyperbolizing an allegation of shoplifting to 'strong arm robbery' is a much more difficult case to make than calling the shooting of an unarmed teenager with no police record, murder.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/16/1322110/-Strong-Arm-Robbery-My-A
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Admit the worst thing you did when you were 18, then imagine you are shot to death 10 min. later
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Robbery is similar to theft, but with the added element of force or use of a weapon. A robbery is committed if in the course of committing a theft someone:
Uses force against the person of the owner or any person present with intent to overcome his physical resistance or physical power of resistance; or
Threatens the imminent use of force against the person of the owner or any person present with intent to compel acquiescence to the taking of or escaping with the property.
Robbery accompanied with another participant, use or threatened use of a weapon, or serious injury to a victim will usually increase the seriousness of the robbery offense charged. Degrees of robbery are defined by each state's laws. Laws vary by state, so local law should be consulted to determine the law applicable in your area.
It's pretty straight forward.
pintobean (12,515 posts)
5. And it was explained in your thread.
Missouri law says it's robbery because of the assault and threat during the theft.
We can't pretend that the law doesn't exist, or that law enforcement shouldn't use proper terminology.
Yup.
6000eliot (4,562 posts)
3. What does this law you cite say about "STRONG-ARM" robbery?
Is the modifier necessary or inflammatory?
exboyfil (4,472 posts)
10. The modifier is to distinguish it from robbery with a weapon
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/strong-arm
Using physical force or coercion: strong-arm tactics.
tr.v. strong-armed, strong-arm·ing, strong-arms
1. To use physical force or coercion against.
2. To rob by force.
I would think most 2nd degree robberies are "strong arm", but you can conceive of situations were a weapon was used but not a deadly weapon (mace and a taser for example). Here is the standard for 1st degree robbery. If you find something that fits the code better let me know. The important words are force and intimidation.
Robbery in the first degree.
569.020. 1. A person commits the crime of robbery in the first degree when he forcibly steals property and in the course thereof he, or another participant in the crime,
(1) Causes serious physical injury to any person; or
(2) Is armed with a deadly weapon; or
(3) Uses or threatens the immediate use of a dangerous instrument against any person; or
(4) Displays or threatens the use of what appears to be a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument.
2. Robbery in the first degree is a class A felony.
conservaphobe (917 posts)
7. Using scary, technical terms to paint the VICTIM as a thug. That's all that is happening here.
Dude was a thug. Now he is dead after assaulting a police officer.
conservaphobe (917 posts)
15. This information shouldn't have even been made public. Because it had nothing to do with his murder. Worst case of character assassination I've seen in a long time.
You idiots asked for it to be released.
They will continue to try to paint Saint Michael as a choir boy until the very very end.
