Schoolboys punished...for refusing to kneel in class and pray to Allah

[dandi]

This occurred in Britain, but regardless, if this had a Christian prayer the thread would at 500 posts by now and growing. To their credit one or two DUmmies do condemn it, but the rest either impugn the source or accuse the paper of stirring anti-Muslim feelings, and of course there's always, always some comparison drawn to the U.S. and Christians:

Phx_Dem  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-07-08 01:55 PM
Original message
Schoolboys punished...for refusing to kneel in class and pray to Allah
 
Two schoolboys were given detention after refusing to kneel down and 'pray to Allah' during a religious education lesson.

Parents were outraged that the two boys from year seven (11 to 12-year-olds) were punished for not wanting to take part in the practical demonstration of how Allah is worshipped.

They said forcing their children to take part in the exercise at Alsager High School, near Stoke-on-Trent - which included wearing Muslim headgear - was a breach of their human rights.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1031784/Scho...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3575836

hatrack  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-07-08 01:57 PM
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1. Hmm . . "Mail On Sunday" . . . could that be the Daily Mail, perhaps?

RUMMYisFROSTED  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-07-08 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. Forget giving them an American coin.

*picture of a U.S. penny with "In God We Trust" displayed*

Marrah_G  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-07-08 01:57 PM
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4. This would piss me off also- but then I don't live in the UK

LeftishBrit  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-07-08 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #4
29. I do. And I work in primary schools. And this is not part of educational practice here.
 See my other posts.

The 'Daily Mail' gets things very distorted most of the time. And if it can demonize Muslims, or modern education, or both at the same time, it will.

 
 Marrah_G  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-07-08 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. Ahhh ... I understand. I had no idea the paper was one of "those"

Ahhh, yes. One of "those", quite obviously.

Bornaginhooligan (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-07-08 01:58 PM
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5. Accepts story at face value.
 Knee jerk bigoted slurs against muslims.

You'd be the first one out of the gate with "knee jerk bigoted slurs" at the sightest hint of this being a Christian prayer. Hypocrite.

devilgrrl  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-07-08 02:13 PM
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13. Oh those MAH-slims! I hear that they make pita bread with the blood of Christian babies!

Lex  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-07-08 02:22 PM
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15. oh yeah, like I believe that
 sounds like twisted up bullshit on a stick

Bluebear  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-07-08 02:41 PM
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19. "Outaged", check. Muslims, check. "Forcing", check. Check, check, check, check, check.
 Bullshit.

fascisthunter  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-07-08 05:09 PM
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36. Let Me Guess: More BS to Stir Anti-Muh-slim Sentiment
 yup....

Radical Activist (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-07-08 06:22 PM
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39. This is what the Christian Coalition wants, isn't it?
 Mandatory prayer in school.

Overseas  (821 posts)      Mon Jul-07-08 06:47 PM
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44. Daily Mail story -- BUT ALSO it was just a class exercise-- why did the kids refuse?
 It was just a class exercise-- trying out a different country's practices. What's with the ultra-purist boys that they wouldn't try something out just as an exercise. Geez. They seem like real rigid fundamentalists in their own right.

Gotta be a mole.

LeftishTwit runs through the whole thread going into contortions to discredit the sources, even when multiple ones are provided. Where's the Atheist Brigade on this one? 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 


 
 

[Chris_]

This occurred in Britain, but regardless, if this had a Christian prayer the thread would at 500 posts by now and growing. To their credit one or two DUmmies do condemn it, but the rest either impugn the source or accuse the paper of stirring anti-Muslim feelings, and of course there's always, always some comparison drawn to the U.S. and Christians:

Phx_Dem  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-07-08 01:55 PM
Original message
Schoolboys punished...for refusing to kneel in class and pray to Allah
 
Two schoolboys were given detention after refusing to kneel down and 'pray to Allah' during a religious education lesson.

Parents were outraged that the two boys from year seven (11 to 12-year-olds) were punished for not wanting to take part in the practical demonstration of how Allah is worshipped.

They said forcing their children to take part in the exercise at Alsager High School, near Stoke-on-Trent - which included wearing Muslim headgear - was a breach of their human rights.

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1031784/Scho...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3575836

hatrack  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-07-08 01:57 PM
Response to Original message
1. Hmm . . "Mail On Sunday" . . . could that be the Daily Mail, perhaps?

RUMMYisFROSTED  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-07-08 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. Forget giving them an American coin.

*picture of a U.S. penny with "In God We Trust" displayed*

Marrah_G  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-07-08 01:57 PM
Response to Original message
4. This would piss me off also- but then I don't live in the UK

LeftishBrit  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-07-08 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #4
29. I do. And I work in primary schools. And this is not part of educational practice here.
 See my other posts.

The 'Daily Mail' gets things very distorted most of the time. And if it can demonize Muslims, or modern education, or both at the same time, it will.

 
 Marrah_G  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-07-08 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. Ahhh ... I understand. I had no idea the paper was one of "those"

Ahhh, yes. One of "those", quite obviously.

Bornaginhooligan (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-07-08 01:58 PM
Response to Original message
5. Accepts story at face value.
 Knee jerk bigoted slurs against muslims.

You'd be the first one out of the gate with "knee jerk bigoted slurs" at the sightest hint of this being a Christian prayer. Hypocrite.

Radical Activist (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-07-08 06:22 PM
Response to Original message
39. This is what the Christian Coalition wants, isn't it?
 Mandatory prayer in school.

Overseas  (821 posts)      Mon Jul-07-08 06:47 PM
Response to Original message
44. Daily Mail story -- BUT ALSO it was just a class exercise-- why did the kids refuse?
 It was just a class exercise-- trying out a different country's practices. What's with the ultra-purist boys that they wouldn't try something out just as an exercise. Geez. They seem like real rigid fundamentalists in their own right.

Gotta be a mole.

LeftishTwit runs through the whole thread going into contortions to discredit the sources, even when multiple ones are provided. Where's the Atheist Brigade on this one? 

 
I'm part of the "atheist brigade" and I have a problem with this. As for the DUmbass responses, you simply cannot buy that kind of brainless stupidity. Not even with Bill Gates' money. Average IQ on that thread: zero.

[jinxmchue]

RUMMYisFROSTED  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jul-07-08 01:59 PM
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7. Forget giving them an American coin.

*picture of a U.S. penny with "In God We Trust" displayed*

Yeah, because that's the EXACT SAME THING as kneeling in prayer towards Mecca.   

[Rebel]

What the **** is wrong with these idiots? They defend Islam, but denounce Christianity. Damn if Savage's definition of "Liberalism" isn't spot on. Its THESE fools that are allowing this shit to happen in the U.K. 

[Rebel]

I'm seeing "some" disagreement, but a lot of  not true not a reputable news source not true!

What a buncha ****ing dumbasses. 

[Chris_]

I'm seeing "some" disagreement, but a lot of  not true not a reputable news source not true!

What a buncha ****ing dumbasses. 

That's because the truth is clashing with PC.

[Attero Dominatus]

Marrah_G  (1000+ posts)       Mon Jul-07-08 01:57 PM
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4. This would piss me off also- but then I don't live in the UK

Coming soon to American schools if the PC types (moonbats, DUmmies, etc) have their way.

[BlueStateSaint]

I'm seeing "some" disagreement, but a lot of  not true not a reputable news source not true!

What a buncha ****ing dumbasses. 

Steel on target, my friend.  H5 for that.

[JohnnyReb]

Teacher to students, "Next week kids, you're going to put on a crown of thorns and strap a heavy wooden cross to your back."

[Rebel]

Teacher to students, "Next week kids, you're going to put on a crown of thorns and strap a heavy wooden cross to your back."

{RABBLE, RABBLE, RABBLE!} {ALLAHU AKHBAR!} {RABBLE, RABBLE, RABBLE!} {DEATH TO THE GREAT SATAN!}

I can just see it now. The most intolerant m'f'ers of ANY religion won't stand for that shit. 

[DixieBelle]

Asshats.

Notice that they confuse the religion Islam with a "country's culture"??? Idiot f*cksticks.

Damn I'm pissed! They already tried this bullsh*t in my son's school.

During the next few weeks, multicultural trainer Afeefa Syeed will bring third-, fourth- and fifth-grade students from a Muslim academy in _______, Va., to nearby public schools to share the practices and beliefs of their holiest month, Ramadan."

It's worse than I was initially led to believe. According to FrontPage magazine, 'there will be explanations of the fasting month and “role-playing” that requires students to recite Muslim sacred words and imitate their prayer practices.'

 

[bijou]

Good find dandi, I was wondering what DU's response would be to this story and it was pretty much what I suspected.

[mamacags]

Asshats.

Notice that they confuse the religion Islam with a "country's culture"??? Idiot f*cksticks.

Damn I'm pissed! They already tried this bullsh*t in my son's school.

During the next few weeks, multicultural trainer Afeefa Syeed will bring third-, fourth- and fifth-grade students from a Muslim academy in _______, Va., to nearby public schools to share the practices and beliefs of their holiest month, Ramadan."

It's worse than I was initially led to believe. According to FrontPage magazine, 'there will be explanations of the fasting month and “role-playing” that requires students to recite Muslim sacred words and imitate their prayer practices.'

 

Holy Crap!!!!!!  What did you do?

[DixieBelle]

mama - my son was in one of the lower grades when this happened so his class was not included. They didn't repeat it the following years. They started allowing the Muslim students "a time for reflection and prayer" in the library instead. Which still pissed me off because they closed the entire library to do it. They wanted to give the kids a place to go during lunch because they fast. Fine, but shutting down the whole library AND providing prayer mats? Over the top. They didn't do it last year but they do allow them to go into a small room which is fine.