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primitive's dishwasher springs a leak; needs new floor
« on: August 02, 2014, 10:26:23 PM »
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madokie (40,213 posts)    Fri Aug 1, 2014, 08:50 AM

Kitchen, dining room flooring

Looks like our dishwasher sprung a leak and caused the hardwood flooring in the kitchen to swell and lift up. Its flooring I made from red oak about 10 years ago by using biscuit joinery on 8 inch centers. The planks are 3" wide. We're going to replace it with red oak hard wood flooring, factory made. What I'm not sure about is whether to staple it down or glue, either is recommended by the manufacturer, (Bruce.) I'm going to use what is called engineered flooring as it is 5 ply so it is real stable in not swelling up if it was to get wet again, chances are I wouldn't have to replace it if that was to happen.

Staples will allow me to put a vapor barrier down where gluing won't so I'm leaning towards staples plus my brother has the staple gun that is made specifically for this type flooring that I can use.

Pro's and Con's on staples and or glue if you have a preference and why that is.

I love working on our house so its something I'm looking forward to doing and have been planning to do for some time now. The leak ensures the time is now

My plan is to get everything foreseeable done before my wife enters into retirement along with me so we can cut down on outlays of cash in our retirement years. The dishwasher is going to be replaced at this time also irregardless of where the leak is for that very reason I stated.

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jeff47 (12,646 posts)    Fri Aug 1, 2014, 10:03 AM

1. My primary dislike for staples is that they can squeak.

As they loosen, you get squeaks. So I favor glue, but that may be partially due to my hatred of noisy floors. Realistically, it's not likely to squeak for many years.
 
IMO, if it's not going over a slab, then a vapor barrier isn't necessary. And since you're talking staples, it's not going over a slab. If you have a subfloor on top of the slab, you need the vapor barrier under that subfloor anyway. In that situation, a vapor barrier under the finish flooring is actually a bad idea - it will trap moisture within the subfloor.

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Warpy (77,714 posts)    Fri Aug 1, 2014, 06:30 PM

3. Engineered flooring isn't impervious to water

and the veneer can be ruined by a good soaking, so you'll want something you can take up in sections and replace if something starts to leak. My vote is for staples.

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LiberalEsto (20,498 posts)    Sat Aug 2, 2014, 04:45 PM

5. My kitchen floor is Bruce hardwood, and I hate it

The previous owners installed it some time before we moved in 16 years ago. I don't know if it's engineered or what, but it is the worst kitchen flooring I've ever had.
 
Because there is a small built-in gap between each wood plank, dirt and liquids seep in them and can't easily be cleaned out. Unless I want to kneel down and spend hours running the end of an opened paper clip down every single gap to scrape out the junk.With two cats and two dogs and a household of relative slobs, I've found that keeping the flooring nice is really a pain.
 
If I could afford it, I would get real linoleum -- the kind that lasts 50 years and is made of natural materials.My second choice would be vinyl flooring that comes in planks and looks like wood.
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Re: primitive's dishwasher springs a leak; needs new floor
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2014, 11:49:48 PM »
Dishwashers use energy and more water than washing them by hand dummie. Takes more time too. You are contributing to climate disruption. Al Gore is displeased with you.  Go ahead and off yourself in the name of the feverish Gaia.
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Re: primitive's dishwasher springs a leak; needs new floor
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2014, 05:28:49 AM »
Water has to sit on a wood floor for quite some time to cause it to warp.
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Re: primitive's dishwasher springs a leak; needs new floor
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2014, 05:47:32 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on August 03, 2014, 05:28:49 AM
Water has to sit on a wood floor for quite some time to cause it to warp.

Could it have just been cheap flooring?
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Re: primitive's dishwasher springs a leak; needs new floor
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2014, 07:25:45 AM »
Quote from: thundley4 on August 03, 2014, 05:28:49 AM
Water has to sit on a wood floor for quite some time to cause it to warp.

Well it can leak under the flooring if there is an opening and sit there, despite the best efforts of folks to dry the top layer. We learned this the hard way due to our own inexperience years ago, but being as he is experienced in this stuff and we were not, you think he would have figured that out. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he knew it was going to seep under and warp so planned ahead of time and moved up the replacement they were planning anyway--that's how I read into it--not sure why even reveal the wood warped though if you were replacing it anyway except to placate the dummies who are down on their luck from thinking he's an evil 1%er with money to blow on renovating his house.
Again I say though, if you are knowledgeable about this sort of thing and considering the vast amount of online knowledge on just about any stuff home repair (or anything else for that matter) why would you even ask the opinion of dipshits like DUers, many of whom can't even manage to keep their car in the driveway from the repo man and depend on Obama to keep them at 300 plus pounds?
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Re: primitive's dishwasher springs a leak; needs new floor
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2014, 08:36:36 AM »
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LiberalEsto (20,498 posts)    Sat Aug 2, 2014, 04:45 PM

5. My kitchen floor is Bruce hardwood, and I hate it

The previous owners installed it some time before we moved in 16 years ago. I don't know if it's engineered or what, but it is the worst kitchen flooring I've ever had.
 
Because there is a small built-in gap between each wood plank, dirt and liquids seep in them and can't easily be cleaned out. Unless I want to kneel down and spend hours running the end of an opened paper clip down every single gap to scrape out the junk.With two cats and two dogs and a household of relative slobs, I've found that keeping the flooring nice is really a pain.

The DUmmy's excuse for her kitchen looking like the crapper in a Soweto crackhouse: it's the floor's fault.
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Re: primitive's dishwasher springs a leak; needs new floor
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2014, 09:14:09 AM »
Quote from: Big Dog on August 03, 2014, 08:36:36 AM
The DUmmy's excuse for her kitchen looking smelling like the crapper in a Soweto crackhouse: it's the floor's fault.

Better...
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Re: primitive's dishwasher springs a leak; needs new floor
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2014, 10:15:52 AM »
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.With two cats and two dogs and a household of relative slobs

I see a few things the DUmmie could get rid of that would help the looks and smell of the kitchen/house.
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Re: primitive's dishwasher springs a leak; needs new floor
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2014, 10:34:48 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on August 03, 2014, 09:14:09 AM
Better...

I have no doubt the DUmmy's kitchen smells as disgusting as it looks.

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Re: primitive's dishwasher springs a leak; needs new floor
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2014, 02:06:08 PM »
Quote from: Linda on August 03, 2014, 10:15:52 AM
I see a few things the DUmmie could get rid of that would help the looks and smell of the kitchen/house.

Starting with themselves...
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