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New Cars in California Must Display Global Warming Score
« on: July 07, 2008, 05:29:24 PM »
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New Cars in California Must Display Global Warming Score

OAKLAND, Calif. -- California is making it mandatory for cars to be labeled with global warming scores, figures that take into account emissions from vehicle use and fuel production.

The law requiring the labels goes into effect at the start of next year for all 2009 model cars, though its expected the labels will be popping up on cars in the coming months.

The labeling law forces cars for sale to display a global warming score, on a scale of one to 10, which is based on how vehicles in the same model year compare to one another. The higher the score, the cleaner a car is. The score takes into account emissions related to production of fuel for each vehicle as well as the direct emissions from vehicles.

The score will be displayed next to the already-required smog score, which also rates cars one to 10 for how many smog-forming emissions they emit. For both scores, an average vehicle will have a score of five.

California is the first state of pass such as law, and a similar law will take effect in New York for 2010 model year vehicles. Global warming scores will be included on the state's DriveClean website.

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Mon, 07/07/2008 - 10:35 — Anonymous
And SUVs still pay NO gas guzzler tax
What a joke.
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Mon, 07/07/2008 - 11:22 — Anonymous
Global Warming Hoax Carried Further
Oh Yes we had Global Cooling and then next ice age about 25 Years Ago.

Acid Rain, Radon Gas etc etc its all Bull Poo Poo…. Freon didn’t cause a issue it’s all a total hoax and a new way to collect a new revenue stream
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Mon, 07/07/2008 - 11:28 — Anonymous
New Cars in California Must Display Global Warming Score
Is the sticker going to show from 1 to 10 dead Polar Bears to tell how bad the vehilce is?
How dumb.
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Mon, 07/07/2008 - 12:51 — Anonymous
This is good, but what about...
This is a great start, but more needs to be done because the government must step in and stop the people from the choices that they make when the governement decides they are bad for the planet.

But it's just a start. We also need mandantory airbags. Living on the left coast like me (San Francisco) it's very easy for us to drive off the earth's edge and I want airbags to save me when I hit whatever's underneath the earth. I know a lot of Flat-Earth doubters in middle America question the scientific fact that the earth is flat, but all you need to do is look around you. Does it look like you're standing on a big ball? Didn't think so. Therefore we need to protect people from driving off the edge.

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Re: New Cars in California Must Display Global Warming Score
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2008, 05:31:23 PM »
So...  can we give California back to Mexico yet?
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Re: New Cars in California Must Display Global Warming Score
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2008, 05:39:01 PM »
So...  can we give California back to Mexico yet?

They took it back years ago dude
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2008, 05:43:03 PM »
So...  can we give California back to Mexico yet?

They took it back years ago dude

Well yeah, but I'd rather it be official so they stop screwing our elections up with their massive number of electoral votes.
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Re: New Cars in California Must Display Global Warming Score
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2008, 05:45:46 PM »
So...  can we give California back to Mexico yet?

They took it back years ago dude

Well yeah, but I'd rather it be official so they stop screwing our elections up with their massive number of electoral votes.

Good point
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2008, 05:48:27 PM »
How about the New Car Dealerships Association of California gets together and tells the California legislature to stick it up their colective green ass?   Why do people think they have no power?  The state can't enforce a law everyone refuses to obey.  I've seen it work in Texas.

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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2008, 06:45:06 PM »
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This is a great start, but more needs to be done because the government must step in and stop the people from the choices that they make when the governement decides they are bad for the planet.

Spoken like a true socialist!

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2008, 06:50:34 PM »
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And SUVs still pay NO gas guzzler tax
What a joke.


I wonder if this DUmmie noticed that Obamalamading dong crawled off his chartered jet this morning and climbed into a big SUV????



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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2008, 06:51:14 PM »
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This is a great start, but more needs to be done because the government must step in and stop the people from the choices that they make when the governement decides they are bad for the planet.

Spoken like a true socialist!

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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2008, 10:05:43 PM »
All the more reason to never go back to California and spend good money there.  I'd say a boycott of the state and its products to the extent possible would put the brakes on that shit faster then a new Madonna video at A-Rods next wedding.
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Re: New Cars in California Must Display Global Warming Score
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2008, 10:48:57 PM »
How about the New Car Dealerships Association of California gets together and tells the California legislature to stick it up their colective green ass?   Why do people think they have no power?  The state can't enforce a law everyone refuses to obey.  I've seen it work in Texas.

well, it doesnt look like a new tax per se, but it would appear the people of California have just gotten a new govt group to support. who deems what the global warming sticker looks like?

where is it affixed on new cars?
does the sticker mean its a cheaper car? (probably not.. Prius's are 4K more than the same size car in its class)

there are many questions that only a govt body can address... somebody did indeed find a new revenue stream.  :bs:

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Re: New Cars in California Must Display Global Warming Score
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2008, 10:53:34 PM »
Why do people think they have no power?  

Is this a rhetorical question?
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2008, 11:16:46 PM »
Why do people think they have no power?  

Is this a rhetorical question?

Back during the last years of the Ann Richards governorship it was decide by the EPA and a handful of legislators that Texas' major metro areas would go to centralized auto inspections (instead of being able to run down the street and get it done at Wally's Automotive and Tackle Shop).  Contracts had been signed (read:sold).  Millions and millions of dollars were changing hands.  Stations were being built.  PSA's were running on TV about "it's the law!".

The entire plan got scrapped on Gov. George W. Bush's first day in office. 

I think Dallas was going to have six stations.  Six stations for ten million cars.  You do the math.  You can be assured what was a small civic duty that people volunteered to take care of once a year, in about a half hour at their leisure, was about to turn into a multi-day - all day - twice as expensive and unnecessary pain in the ass.  People, and more important, businesses were not happy. 

There was a quiet unpublicized revolt going on behind the scene.  Rental car agencies told Austin to stick it and threatened to pull out of Texas.  So did a few other transportation companies.  A lot of other companies and corporations let it be known they would be leaving.  It was a beautiful thing.

You should have seen the lawsuits flying when the new "system" was abruptly canceled.  Women, children, and minorities were the hardest hit (haha).  Some people who had bet their soul and way of life on the EPA lost big time.

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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2008, 11:22:29 PM »
Why do people think they have no power?  

Is this a rhetorical question?

Back during the last years of the Ann Richards governorship it was decide by the EPA and a handful of legislators that Texas' major metro areas would go to centralized auto inspections (instead of being able to run down the street and get it done at Wally's Automotive and Tackle Shop).  Contracts had been signed (read:sold).  Millions and millions of dollars were changing hands.  Stations were being built.  PSA's were running on TV about "it's the law!".

The entire plan got scrapped on Gov. George W. Bush's first day in office. 

I think Dallas was going to have six stations.  Six stations for ten million cars.  You do the math.  You can be assured what was a small civic duty that people volunteered to take care of once a year, in about a half hour at their leisure, was about to turn into a multi-day - all day - twice as expensive and unnecessary pain in the ass.  People, and more important, businesses were not happy. 

There was a quiet unpublicized revolt going on behind the scene.  Rental car agencies told Austin to stick it and threatened to pull out of Texas.  So did a few other transportation companies.  A lot of other companies and corporations let it be known they would be leaving.  It was a beautiful thing.

You should have seen the lawsuits flying when the new "system" was abruptly canceled.  Women, children, and minorities were the hardest hit (haha).  Some people who had bet their soul and way of life on the EPA lost big time.

It was a beautiful thing.





I bet it was.

The EPA is one of those organizations that should be disbanded. 
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Re: New Cars in California Must Display Global Warming Score
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2008, 06:03:34 AM »
Why do people think they have no power?  

Is this a rhetorical question?

Back during the last years of the Ann Richards governorship it was decide by the EPA and a handful of legislators that Texas' major metro areas would go to centralized auto inspections (instead of being able to run down the street and get it done at Wally's Automotive and Tackle Shop).  Contracts had been signed (read:sold).  Millions and millions of dollars were changing hands.  Stations were being built.  PSA's were running on TV about "it's the law!".

The entire plan got scrapped on Gov. George W. Bush's first day in office. 

I think Dallas was going to have six stations.  Six stations for ten million cars.  You do the math.  You can be assured what was a small civic duty that people volunteered to take care of once a year, in about a half hour at their leisure, was about to turn into a multi-day - all day - twice as expensive and unnecessary pain in the ass.  People, and more important, businesses were not happy. 

There was a quiet unpublicized revolt going on behind the scene.  Rental car agencies told Austin to stick it and threatened to pull out of Texas.  So did a few other transportation companies.  A lot of other companies and corporations let it be known they would be leaving.  It was a beautiful thing.

You should have seen the lawsuits flying when the new "system" was abruptly canceled.  Women, children, and minorities were the hardest hit (haha).  Some people who had bet their soul and way of life on the EPA lost big time.

It was a beautiful thing.




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Re: New Cars in California Must Display Global Warming Score
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2008, 07:05:39 AM »
For the first time in my life, I can be proud of a score of -38.
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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2008, 09:05:26 AM »
For the first time in my life, I can be proud of a score of -38.

Is there a site that shows you that? I'd love to know what my '03 Tahoe Z-71 4WD with a 5.3L V-8 engine is.  :evillaugh:
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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2008, 11:14:24 AM »
I just cannot believe that folks have bought into the canard of "Global Warming", at least as the "Goracle" has told it. THANK GOD I left California back in 1986. Of course, I was facing problems then, too. Turns out I retrofitted a 350 Old Rocket engine into a vehicle that once held a Diesel engine. California's emission inspections would have left me on foot. I MISS that car!!
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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2008, 11:19:29 AM »
For the first time in my life, I can be proud of a score of -38.

Is there a site that shows you that? I'd love to know what my '03 Tahoe Z-71 4WD with a 5.3L V-8 engine is.  :evillaugh:
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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2008, 11:24:02 AM »
For the first time in my life, I can be proud of a score of -38.

Is there a site that shows you that? I'd love to know what my '03 Tahoe Z-71 4WD with a 5.3L V-8 engine is.  :evillaugh:
My weekly cross-country flights gives me a carbon footprint the size of Texas. If I could only fly alone, or at least chartered like the Green EnrionmentalistTM move actors and rock stars.

At your age the footprints are fast approaching The Wall, so your ultimate damage will not be as drastic as it sounds.

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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2008, 11:26:42 AM »
For the first time in my life, I can be proud of a score of -38.

Is there a site that shows you that? I'd love to know what my '03 Tahoe Z-71 4WD with a 5.3L V-8 engine is.  :evillaugh:
My weekly cross-country flights gives me a carbon footprint the size of Texas. If I could only fly alone, or at least chartered like the Green EnrionmentalistTM move actors and rock stars.

At your age the footprints are fast approaching The Wall, so your ultimate damage will not be as drastic as it sounds.
If it wouldn't be so tragic for my wife, passing while flying would have for me a certain symmetry...
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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2008, 11:41:54 AM »
For the first time in my life, I can be proud of a score of -38.

Is there a site that shows you that? I'd love to know what my '03 Tahoe Z-71 4WD with a 5.3L V-8 engine is.  :evillaugh:
My weekly cross-country flights gives me a carbon footprint the size of Texas. If I could only fly alone, or at least chartered like the Green EnrionmentalistTM move actors and rock stars.

At your age the footprints are fast approaching The Wall, so your ultimate damage will not be as drastic as it sounds.
If it wouldn't be so tragic for my wife, passing while flying would have for me a certain symmetry...

Every year, twelve people on average die of natural causes while flying in a commercial airline.  Maybe you'll get lucky.

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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2008, 02:19:27 PM »
Undies, let's just HOPE that he isn't the ONLY pilot onboard the aircraft IF that ever happens !!  :o
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2008, 02:23:55 PM »
Undies, let's just HOPE that he isn't the ONLY pilot onboard the aircraft IF that ever happens !!  :o

We can hope.  Seven major airline pilots have had heart attacks and died in the cockpit since 1997.  Each time the plane landed safely.  Each time the pilot was the last to exit the plane, hauled out in a trunk by people dressed up as circus folk. 

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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2008, 02:27:09 PM »
For the first time in my life, I can be proud of a score of -38.

Is there a site that shows you that? I'd love to know what my '03 Tahoe Z-71 4WD with a 5.3L V-8 engine is.  :evillaugh:

I got that -38 from "The DUmmie Book of Facts"...........in other words, I pulled it right outta my ass. ....but in DUmmieworld it's as good a number as any other.
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