Guillotine, firing squads better than lethal injection, says . . .

[BlueStateSaint]

This one's on a Washington Post blog, that Drudge linked to.

Guillotine, firing squads better than lethal injection, says prominent federal judge

By Fred Barbash July 22

Executions are “brutal, savage events” — and if society wants to carry them out, it ought to stop pretending otherwise, forget about lethal injections and return to “more primitive — and foolproof — methods.”
 
Like the guillotine — or on second thought, the firing squad.
 
That’s the view of Alex Kozinski, one of the nation’s most prominent appeals court judges, a Ronald Reagan appointee generally regarded as a libertarian conservative and, by standards of the judiciary, a bit of a “troublemaker,” who likes to stir the pot.

Kozinski dissented Monday from a decision of the full U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit to stay the execution of Joseph R. Wood until Arizona told Wood more about the drugs that would be used in the execution and the personnel who would carry it out.
 
Kozinski let loose on the whole attempt, as he put it, to “mask the brutality of executions by making them look serene and peaceful — like something any one of us might experience in our final moments.”

The rest is here:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/22/guillotine-firing-squads-better-than-lethal-injection-says-prominent-federal-judge/

Interesting.

[hillneck]

Doesn't make much difference to me.  As long as sentence is served.  If I had a vote though, I'm thinking firing squad.  A shot to the heart will take care of it, fast, quick and in a hurry.

[DefiantSix]

Given how slowly the wheels of "Justice" have been geared to turn these days, I think staking the bastards to an ant hill would be a more expeditious execution of sentence than what goes on now.

[Eupher]

I'm a firm believer in drawing and quartering.

If it's good enough for William Wallace, it's good enough for a convicted murderer.

[obumazombie]

I'm a firm believer in drawing and quartering.

If it's good enough for William Wallace, it's good enough for a convicted murderer.

Didn't they disembowel him along with some other playful techniques first ?

[DLR Pyro]

What's wrong with a carbon monoxide chamber.    I believe Dr. Kevorkian used this type of device in his assisted suicide contraption.  The condemned will merely fall asleep and never wake up.  No pain, no mess, no more bad guy.

[obumazombie]

What's wrong with a carbon monoxide chamber.    I believe Dr. Kevorkian used this type of device in his assisted suicide contraption.  The condemned will merely fall asleep and never wake up.  No pain, no mess, no more bad guy.

Or a nitrogen chamber.

[Eupher]

What's wrong with a carbon monoxide chamber.    I believe Dr. Kevorkian used this type of device in his assisted suicide contraption.  The condemned will merely fall asleep and never wake up.  No pain, no mess, no more bad guy.

Ah bleeve that people who suffer from carbon monoxide poisoning encounter a headache.

Sounds like "cruel and unusual punishment" to me.  [\sarc]

[Eupher]

Didn't they disembowel him along with some other playful techniques first ?

Yeah, drawing and quartering ain't for the fainthearted.

First, they hang the guy until he's almost, but not quite, dead.

They allow him to recuperate, and then they castrate him.

The next step results in disemboweling, then they cut his head off and dismember the rest of the corpse.

The head goes in one place in the realm (usually on a pike for all to see), and the various appendages go hither and yon throughout the realm.

[dutch508]

Yeah, drawing and quartering ain't for the fainthearted.

First, they hang the guy until he's almost, but not quite, dead.

They allow him to recuperate, and then they castrate him.

The next step results in disemboweling, then they cut his head off and dismember the rest of the corpse.

The head goes in one place in the realm (usually on a pike for all to see), and the various appendages go hither and yon throughout the realm.

Disembowelment and burning his entrails as he watches, then decapitation.

drawing and quartering, part of the grisly penalty anciently ordained in England (1283) for the crime of treason. Until 1867, when it was abolished, the full punishment for a traitor could include several steps. First he was drawn, that is, tied to a horse and dragged to the gallows. A so-called hurdle, or sledge, is sometimes mentioned in this context. Although such a device may have been a means of mercy, The History of English Law Before the Time of Edward I (2nd ed., 1898; reissued 1996) states that it was more likely a way to deliver a live body to the hangman. The remainder of the punishment might include hanging (usually not to the death), usually live disemboweling, burning of the entrails, beheading, and quartering. This last step was sometimes accomplished by tying each of the four limbs to a different horse and spurring them in different directions.

It's like the English didn't like criminals...

[BlueStateSaint]

I'm kinda partial to the methods of Vlad Tepes.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABxoGmL11HU#t=12[/youtube]

[Ptarmigan]

I prefer radiation exposure.

[Chris_]

Trash compactor.

[obumazombie]

Mr Mann likes the wood chipper.

[seahorse513]

The bloody eagle(Viking execution). Criminals need to see that they are facing death. they need to see what they did to their victims. Castration would be good for rapists. firing squad(no eye covering). Lethal injection...bah...that is for wimps!!
Decapitation, public hangings with torture beforehand..
Well we know what country I came from.......
I am such a blood thirsty wench!!

[BlueStateSaint]

The bloody eagle(Viking execution). Criminals need to see that they are facing death. they need to see what they did to their victims. Castration would be good for rapists. firing squad(no eye covering). Lethal injection...bah...that is for wimps!!
Decapitation, public hangings with torture beforehand..
Well we know what country I came from.......
I am such a blood thirsty wench!!

You didn't see the video I posted above, did you?

[DumbAss Tanker]

It's like the English didn't like criminals...

They've come a full 180 on that one.  Sentences are laughably short for most crimes, and self-defense is virtually outlawed.

[BlueStateSaint]

They've come a full 180 on that one.  Sentences are laughably short for most crimes, and self-defense is virtually outlawed.

I do believe that Dutch used an ambiguous tense of the verb there, DAT--one that could be interpreted as either 'past' or 'present.'

[seahorse513]

You didn't see the video I posted above, did you?

Holy crap!! I bet that hurt. However in the Mideast they have the hooks, something very similar, but I don't think, somebody made a hobby out of divining how long the torture would last.

[BlueStateSaint]

Holy crap!! I bet that hurt. However in the Mideast they have the hooks, something very similar, but I don't think, somebody made a hobby out of divining how long the torture would last.

Vlad Tepes was a sick individual.  Effective, though--one story that I heard about him has him demonstrating the 'lawfulness' of his citizens to a visiting dignitary by placing a gold chalice out in a town square one evening, and telling said dignitary that no one would dare steal it--it would be there the next morning.  The dignitary told Vlad, in different terms, 'Not a chance.'  Well, the next morning, the dignitary was stunned to see the chalice in the same spot it had been left the night before.

As the video said, he had up to twenty thousand people impaled around his castle.  At the same time.  Aside from the assault that would have on your nose, it would have to have an effect on invaders.  (It did.)

[DefiantSix]

Vlad Tepes was a sick individual.  Effective, though--one story that I heard about him has him demonstrating the 'lawfulness' of his citizens to a visiting dignitary by placing a gold chalice out in a town square one evening, and telling said dignitary that no one would dare steal it--it would be there the next morning.  The dignitary told Vlad, in different terms, 'Not a chance.'  Well, the next morning, the dignitary was stunned to see the chalice in the same spot it had been left the night before.

As the video said, he had up to twenty thousand people impaled around his castle.  At the same time.  Aside from the assault that would have on your nose, it would have to have an effect on invaders.  (It did.)

The way I heard your first story reported, was that Vlad had the chalice placed next to a stream that was popular for travelers to drink from, with the same results: the general knowledge that the cup was put there by Tepes was sufficient to prevent it from being stolen - ever.

You can't fault Vlad's customary treatment of Muzzie scum, either... 

[DumbAss Tanker]

I do believe that Dutch used an ambiguous tense of the verb there, DAT--one that could be interpreted as either 'past' or 'present.'

"Didn't" pretty much means 'What they used to do' without directly saying what they do in the present, I thought it worth clarifying that English cities are increasingly crime-ridden welfare-state shitholes these days thanks largely to their 'Enlightened' policies.

[obumazombie]

"Didn't" pretty much means 'What they used to do' without directly saying what they do in the present, I thought it worth clarifying that English cities are increasingly crime-ridden welfare-state shitholes these days thanks largely to their 'Enlightened' policies.

The only thing that gets lightened by lib enlightenment is conservative's wallets.