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Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« on: July 08, 2014, 07:32:40 AM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025210380   - the article quoted by malaise seems to have been written by intrepid girl reporter nads.

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Bwaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahahha sorry ReTHUGs and other anti-minimum wage morons

Data shows that there is stronger job growth in all states that raised the minimum wage in January.
Now go Cheney yourselves and stop lying to the world. No words for Chris Crispy's state.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/07/03/3456393/minimum-wage-state-increase-employment/
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Think a higher minimum wage is a job killer? Think again: The states that raised their minimum wages on January 1 have seen higher employment growth since then than the states that kept theirs at the same rate.

The minimum wage went up in 13 states — Arizona, Connecticut, Colorado, Florida, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington — either thanks to automatic increases in line with inflation or new legislation, as Ben Wolcott reports in his analysis at the Center for Economic and Policy Research. The average change in employment for those states over the first five months of the year as compared with the last five of 2013 is .99 percent, while the average for all remaining states is .68 percent.

Digging deeper, all but one of those states are experiencing increases in employment, and nine of them have seen growth above the median rate.



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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2014, 08:49:37 AM »
Really seems to be a rather even distribution, not a direct correlation.
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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2014, 01:36:26 PM »
Of course, the "unemployment rate" is tied directly to unemployment benefits. It doesn't count people who don't get benefits, expired benefits, or work part time but want full time. But don't muddle up the DUmmie's thought processses.
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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2014, 01:40:34 PM »
So this idiot is harping about an increase of .3%................................... :thatsright:
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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2014, 02:12:34 PM »
Interesting that they listed CA first.  Did the report also list the cost of living in those states?  Living in CA or NY costs a whole lot more than a lot of other states.

Whatever CA raises wages to, you can be sure that all their added/increases in  taxes, fees, licenses etc., the state will get all that increase plus more.







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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2014, 02:44:36 PM »
Quote from: Dori on July 08, 2014, 02:12:34 PM
Interesting that they listed CA first.  Did the report also list the cost of living in those states?  Living in CA or NY costs a whole lot more than a lot of other states.

Whatever CA raises wages to, you can be sure that all their added/increases in  taxes, fees, licenses etc., the state will get all that increase plus more.


Union contracts are tied to the min wage. It goes up, so do Union wages with no bargaining.
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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2014, 02:58:07 PM »
I call bullshit.

Jobs are fleeing California. How is CA showing the best job increase?

My guess: the stat is measuring public sector jobs.
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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2014, 03:18:34 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on July 08, 2014, 02:58:07 PM
I call bullshit.

Jobs are fleeing California. How is CA showing the best job increase?

My guess: the stat is measuring public sector jobs.

It's hard to know without knowing what their percentages are based on.
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CA has had a minimum wage of $8 per hr since '08, and it increased to $9 on Jul 1 2014.  Maybe that's where they are getting that number from.

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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2014, 04:45:38 PM »
Quote from: Dori on July 08, 2014, 03:18:34 PM
It's hard to know without knowing what their percentages are based on.
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CA has had a minimum wage of $8 per hr since '08, and it increased to $9 on Jul 1 2014.  Maybe that's where they are getting that number from.

But the chart shows it without increase.  So this is pre-increase.
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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2014, 05:44:08 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on July 08, 2014, 02:58:07 PM
I call bullshit.

Jobs are fleeing California. How is CA showing the best job increase?

My guess: the stat is measuring public sector jobs.

The entire chart is wrong - and the more one looks at it, the more wrong one finds.  From an entirely insignificant distribution of increase/increaseless states to the super mobetta smot line "13 States Whiched Raised Minimum in 2014" - one gets the impression that this chart was put together by a 3rd grader.
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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2014, 09:05:08 PM »
Quote from: miskie on July 08, 2014, 05:44:08 PM
- one gets the impression that this chart was put together by a 3rd grader.

You're close.....

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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2014, 09:07:53 PM »
Quote from: Maxiest on July 08, 2014, 04:45:38 PM
But the chart shows it without increase.  So this is pre-increase.

Easy to do if you don't subtract job losses, people becoming the new un-people, etc, either. 
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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2014, 09:36:05 PM »
The article seemed to infer that the increases were due to "small business" increases.

Something just occurred to me, the unemployment extension didn't pass congress until April this year.  Maybe that's why there were increases.
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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2014, 10:54:13 PM »
Well, DUmmy "malaise" is rather thick, but she's a frickin' mental giant compared to DUmmy "LadyFreedomReturns" - THIS is what that twit posted on her FB page:



Just plain stupid, atheists complaining that Levithian law isn't being followed, DUmbass.  :whatever:
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Re: Think Progress, Masters of Literacy.
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2014, 12:32:51 AM »
I think that chart came from DUmmy TruthIsAll.

Very strange.

"End of 2013 to Beginning of 2014"

That time span is zero. From midnight 12/31/13 to an instant after midnight.

Nearly 3% job increase in zero time.

I guess that's the Big Bang. Or DUmp math.
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