primitives think maybe we have too much

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025132743

Oh my.

rsmith6621 (6,835 posts)    Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:03 PM

Just Maybe we Have To Much......

I was thinking earlier today that maybe part of our economic problem in the good ole USA is WE HAVE TO MUCH FREE MARKET.
 
And that has driven down economics for everyone. Think about what corporations paid in the 50s in taxes compared to now and small business florished. Now major-corps pay -tax% and prosperous small businesses are hardly no where to be found any more, but yet there are more small business now than before with the advent of this WWW thingy.
 
Anyone have a thought.

I dunno the point the primitive's trying to make, but I do agree the primitives are given too much by the rest of us.

Skidmore (31,544 posts)    Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:12 PM

2. We have too much of everything.

People don't need the level of consumption we have here to survive. There was a time when not every person was required to work in the work force and one income could support a family. Expectations were lower then and things had real value and were passed on to the next generation because they lasted. There were not a gazillion varieties of every given toiletry item or kitchen gadget or toy known to man (most, might I add, supporting the petrochemical industry because otherwise what would we do with the sludge produced after fuel is obtained?). We need to ratchet down our consumption.
 
Consumption of every little doodad out there continues to inflate the corporate bubble. If our infrastructure would collapse tomorrow--particularly the electrical grid--we would be in a world of hurt because of the way we produce and use products. Think of what you purchase and if you really need it for survival.
 
Free markets are consumer driven, contrary to popular believe. The "makers" wouldn't have squat if people didn't buy.

<<<bets the skidmarked underwear primitive's home is clogged with more toys, gadgets, and geegaws than franksolich's.

AngryAmish (20,770 posts)    Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:16 PM

3. Jimmy Carter deregulated both the rails and trucks.

But left basic safety, hours of service, etc. Regulated. The US has the cheapest goods transit on earth.
 
Some regulation. No more books of tariffs.

elleng (48,094 posts)      Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:24 PM

4. and beginning 'deregulation,'

ended up dooming us all. For capitalism to thrive, it must be regulated.

President Carter's deregulation of transportation was only a beginning, in those spheres; much more was to follow.

AngryAmish (20,770 posts)    Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:30 PM

5. However much flying sucks nowadays

It is available to 90% of Americans. Before deregulation it was available to 20 % of Americans.
 
That I like.

Do you like fruit in winter? I do. not available in the 1970s.

elleng (48,094 posts)    Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:43 PM

6. I doubt that 20% number is correct;

I recall those days, many flew, numbers increased every year, and airlines largely stayed financially sound, without charging passengers for hauling our luggage and preferring business travelers.
 
Winter/fruit relates how? Railroads and motor carriers did have refrigerated cars before, and they still fight over freight charges, just in different fora, and small carriers suffer from consolidation which has become much easier to accomplish.

^^^the husband (even though he's dead) hating primitive must have a short memory.

<<<can remember, pre-Reagan, when rural America was vastly underserved in goods and services, usually because of shipping costs.

The Reagan-Bush-Gingrich-Bush prosperity resolved that, and what's to be found in the shoppes of big blue cities can be found in the stores of small towns too.

[Chris_]

AngryAmish (20,770 posts)    Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:16 PM

The US has the cheapest goods transit on earth.

Spoken like someone who has never had to pay $750 for a tank of diesel fuel.

[GOBUCKS]

The enormous increase in air traffic is due to deregulation of routes, the huge increase in normal folks' disposable income resulting from the Reagan Boom and the Great Bush Prosperity, and the advent of non-union carriers, mainly Southwest.

[franksolich]

comment 2533:
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81827.2525

[I_B_Perky]

AngryAmish (20,770 posts)    Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:30 PM

5. However much flying sucks nowadays

It is available to 90% of Americans. Before deregulation it was available to 20 % of Americans.
 
That I like.

Do you like fruit in winter? I do. not available in the 1970s.

Poor moling here. Just slaps the dummies with some facts and doesn't set it up. Maybe the mole thinks that it's 20,000 posts will protect it. If it continues, granite future I predict.

I can confirm that I deny that this ain't one of my moles. 

[BattleHymn]

It's good to see the rsmith primitive has somehow stumbled and bumbled his way back in front of a computer screen again. 

To [sic] much of something certainly contributed to rsmith's ample pair of tired-looking knockers. 


[edit]

With the sheer abundance of saggy, floppy, hanging boobs on display at Skin's Island, I think we're in need of a poll to figure out which primitive is sporting the most disgusting pair.

[GOBUCKS]

Skidmore (31,544 posts)   
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:12 PM

2. We have too much of everything.

People don't need the level of consumption we have here to survive.

I thought poor, helpless DUmmy Skidmore didn't have enough of anything.

She debates openly at the DUmp on whether to buy food or pay her light bill.

[BEG]

Just shut up you idiots.

[Dori]

I agree that we do have too much stuff.  But I see the real costs of living being government made.  Rules, laws, regulations, taxes, licenses, insurances, that make life difficult for the middle class.

[Ogre]

Skidmore (31,544 posts)   
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:12 PM

2. We have too much of everything.

Dear Dummy

Christopher Walken and I both disagree, you can't have too much cowbell.

[GOBUCKS]

I agree that we do have too much stuff.

No way. I want more stuff. Better stuff. Newer stuff.

If they invent it, or make a newer model, I'll buy it.

I can't imagine complaining about too much stuff, unless it comes down to a point of no space to keep it.

To make space, all you have to do is set the older stuff out by the road.

[98ZJUSMC]

Free markets are consumer driven, contrary to popular believe. The "makers" wouldn't have squat if people didn't buy.

   Well, bravo (D)Ummy you're (rather simply) correct.  Curious as to what the popular believe is though.

elleng (48,094 posts)      Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:24 PM

4. and beginning 'deregulation,'

ended up dooming us all. For capitalism to thrive, it must be regulated.    

President Carter's deregulation of transportation was only a beginning, in those spheres; much more was to follow.

Oh, so it's the evil......Carters' fault?     

[Mr Mannn]

The problem here is how a DUmmy follows up with his stupid a$$ theories.
for example:
We probably have too much stuff.
The DUmmy solution will always be: We need to take things away from you. (also known as redistribution)

Now this is not something that can be done in a free society. That will not deter the little socialist b@$tard, as he is not a fan of freedom in the first place. Taking things away from people is ultimately what a DUmmy wants. Hence the universal cry to disarm the law abiding. Only with an unarmed populace can a democrat fulfill his tyrannical dreams.

Thus we see the DUmmies squirm in their pathetic impotence.

[franksolich]

The problem here is how a DUmmy follows up with his stupid a$$ theories.

for example:

We probably have too much stuff.

The DUmmy solution will always be: We need to take things away from you. (also known as redistribution).

Well, here I am. living the minimalist life-style, partly by choice, partly by non-choice.

I challenge any primitive who thinks we have "too much" stuff to ditch all his junk, and join franksolich in adopting the "only what's minimally necessary" life-style.

But all I see are primitives who keep jampacking their houses full of stuff.

It's obvious what's going on; they want us to give up our stuff, while they keep theirs.

[98ZJUSMC]

The problem here is how a DUmmy follows up with his stupid a$$ theories.
for example:
We probably have too much stuff.
The DUmmy solution will always be: We need to take things away from you. (also known as redistribution)

Now this is not something that can be done in a free society. That will not deter the little socialist b@$tard, as he is not a fan of freedom in the first place. Taking things away from people is ultimately what a DUmmy wants. Hence the universal cry to disarm the law abiding. Only with an unarmed populace can a democrat fulfill his tyrannical dreams.

Thus we see the DUmmies squirm in their pathetic impotence.

As usual:

[Big Dog]

Skidmore (31,544 posts)   
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:12 PM

2. We have too much of everything.

A special message for the skidmark primitive*:

What do you mean "WE", Shit For Brains?

If you believe you have too much, then unburden yourself. How much, or how little, I choose to own- or can afford to purchase - is none of your ****ing business.

*Lurking DUmmies are encouraged to pass the word.

[franksolich]

If you believe you have too much, then unburden yourself. How much, or how little, I choose to own- or can afford to purchase - is none of your ****ing business.

Man, ain't that the truth.

What primitives perhaps don't realize is that material goods are a psychological burden; one has to worry about paying for them, one has to worry about them not getting broken or stolen.

And the psychological burden can be heavier than the physical burden.

Now, I have to be careful here, because I don't want this misinterpreted; many people have lots and lots of things because they need them or use them or appreciate them.  There's nothing wrong with that.

But however there's a category of people who have things just to.....have things.

They don't need them, they don't use them, and the only thing they appreciate about them is that they have them.  Nothing more.

Think of the eBay and flea-market primitives, always out gathering up things with the idea of re-selling them.  But they never do; they just stash things away, they just keep them.  And the pile constantly gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

I dunno the skidmarked underwear primitive's individual situation, but I suspect she has lots and lots of things just to.....have them.

The skidmarked underwear primitive, as long as I've known her (maybe about seven years), has constantly complained of the burdens life imposes upon her.  I think if she got rid of the material junk in her life, she'd find the psychological, or emotional, burden a great deal lighter.

[thundley4]

A special message for the skidmark primitive*:

What do you mean "WE", Shit For Brains?

If you believe you have too much, then unburden yourself. How much, or how little, I choose to own- or can afford to purchase - is none of your ****ing business.

Johnny Cash is cool, but let's really piss on the DUmmies.



*Lurking DUmmies are encouraged to pass the word.

[DumbAss Tanker]

rsmith6621 (6,835 posts)    Sat Jun 21, 2014, 08:03 PM

Just Maybe we Have To Much......

I was thinking earlier today that maybe part of our economic problem in the good ole USA is WE HAVE TO MUCH FREE MARKET.
 
And that has driven down economics for everyone. Think about what corporations paid in the 50s in taxes compared to now and small business florished. Now major-corps pay -tax% and prosperous small businesses are hardly no where to be found any more, but yet there are more small business now than before with the advent of this WWW thingy.
 
Anyone have a thought.

I do, as a matter of fact.  My thought is that you are an ignorant buffoon, unintentionally amusing us all with your mindless blather and clumsy pratfalls.  Beyond a purely technical legal fiction useful to accountants, businesses do not pay taxes, their customers pay the taxes, whether they are incorporated or ma-and-pa.  Every dime they pay uncle is rolled into the price you pay to them for their goods or services.

You are an idiot, rsmithnumbers, and can never hope to be more than the feckless piece of driftwood that you show yourself to be now.  You should just kill yourself and save fate the trouble.

[thundley4]

I do, as a matter of fact.  My thought is that you are an ignorant buffoon, unintentionally amusing us all with your mindless blather and clumsy pratfalls.  Beyond a purely technical legal fiction useful to accountants, businesses do not pay taxes, their customers pay the taxes, whether they are incorporated or ma-and-pa.  Every dime they pay uncle is rolled into the price you pay to them for their goods or services.

You are an idiot, rsmithnumbers, and can never hope to be more than the feckless piece of driftwood that you show yourself to be now.  You should just kill yourself and save fate the trouble.

A perfect example that is near and dear to the DUmmies is the tax on pot in Colorado and Washington.

[GOBUCKS]

Please be nice to DUmmy rsmithnumbers.

He's been gone a long time, and no one at the DUmp can match his bouncy tales.

He's as dumb as Amber, but with far more imagination.

We need to encourage him to stay around and spin his magic.

[DefiantSix]

primitives think...

I see the problem, right here.

[Carl]

Please be nice to DUmmy rsmithnumbers.

He's been gone a long time, and no one at the DUmp can match his bouncy tales.

He's as dumb as Amber, but with far more imagination.

We need to encourage him to stay around and spin his magic.

He has been away reading the truck driving book on how to find "reverse".

[franksolich]

I thought about the kitchen here this evening, after observing the seditious activities of the cooking and baking primitives.

As you know, this is an old house.

The kitchen measures 26' x 32', which I imagine is pretty good.

There is the large refrigerator, the natural gas stove, and a two-tub stainless steel sink.  Yards and yards and seemingly miles of bare counter-space, with cupboards both above and below.  A lilliputian kitchen table and two chairs--because eating here's usually done in the dining room, or on the front or back porches.

The only small electrical appliance is a food blender.

No microwave oven, no automatic dishwasher, no television, no radio, no telephone, in this kitchen.

And it's just as bare in the drawers and cupboards; in fact, some drawers and cupboards have nothing in them.  The only thing that's ever "full" is the refrigerator.

It's as easy as Hell to keep clean, because there's hardly anything in it.

I imagine primitives, given their propensity to collect stuff just for the sake of having stuff, if primitives lived here, the kitchen would be crammed full of things, things they really don't need or use.  And it'd be pretty dirty too.

[Chris_]

The kitchen measures 26' x 32', which I imagine is pretty good.

Your kitchen was larger than my last apartment.